A sad event

[MSTRS]

Wasn't sure where to put this post, but wanted to let you all know. A friend of hXc hanged himself this morning. hXc may not be on for a day or two as he is very upset. He also lost a nephew only a month ago.
Yungatart has been helping 270 Year 10 kids get through today.
Note to parents - Please love your kids & look out for them always. Talk to them all you can.
Note to younger members here. If you have issues that are troubling you, Please talk to your folks or at least to someone who cares.
We do not want to have this sort of thing happen so needlessly.

[DemonWolf]

condolences go out to the family and friends...

[Sniper]

Bugger mate. Im sorry to hear that, but your message is clear.

[marty]

i presume he was hXc's age - so hard to deal with - parents & friends. my condolences. always makes me so sad. i've given my kids a hug already.

[ManDownUnder]

Good call to post this mate... sorry to hear about what happened... I can't think of anything worse to find or be affected by.

How old was the person that died?

Condolences to all affected

[yungatart]

The boy was 14/15. If he could see the devastation among his friends, classmates,fellow students and staff.... It's been a rough day

[Mrs Old Farts]

Sorry to hear such sad news, your words dont go unheard.

[jrandom]

surely there must be something terribly wrong when teenagers wake up one morning and decide that the next six or seven decades of life aren't worth hanging around for.

but what?

is it because their brains are broken, and they need to be fixed with medication until they grow out of a random neural misconnection that's causing erratic irrationality?

is it because life's being so horrible to them that another few years of endurance are unbearable, and would cause such lasting damage that they might as well give up on existence now?

is it because the selfish little gits think that they're really boring and insignificant (probably true), will be dead one day in any case, and might as well cause as much of an impact as they can while there are still people who care about them?

there must be a common causal thread.

but I've never experienced it first-hand, so would anyone who has care to comment?

[TonyB]

What a terrible tragedy. What can you say? Hang in there hXc. And MRSTRS and yungatart this must be your worst nightmare, hang in there too, OK?

[MSTRS]

And MRSTRS and yungatart this must be your worst nightmare, hang in there too, OK?
Not quite, the guy wasn't family, But all the same it is gutwrenching

[marty]

surely there must be something terribly wrong when teenagers wake up one morning and decide that the next six or seven decades of life aren't worth hanging around for.

but what?

is it because their brains are broken, and they need to be fixed with medication until they grow out of a random neural misconnection that's causing erratic irrationality?

is it because life's being so horrible to them that another few years of endurance are unbearable, and would cause such lasting damage that they might as well give up on existence now?

is it because the selfish little gits think that they're really boring and insignificant (probably true), will be dead one day in any case, and might as well cause as much of an impact as they can while there are still people who care about them?

there must be a common causal thread.

but I've never experienced it first-hand, so would anyone who has care to comment?

there is a causal common thread - it's recognising it BEFORE it happens that is the challenge.

and i've experienced it - too many times - but i'm still affected deeply by it.

'commenting' on it after the event is comforting for some, too much for others, and i would suggest that here is not the place for a general discussion on the deeper reasons for suicide.

[Riff Raff]

Mstrs and Yungatart please give Zac a big hug from me. Suicide is devastating, especially when it is someone so young.

Fish, my two cents worth.... in my job I obviously deal with suicides and attempted suicides on a regular basis. From my own personal experience I hit rock bottom a few years ago after some pretty horrible things happened to me. I had trouble seeing the light at the end of the tunnel and I did contemplate suicide. Thankfully I couldn't go through with it, and with a few life enhancing experiences since then I had a change in attitude and now have a positive outlook on life.

When I go to someone who has attempted suicide I take the time to listen to them and be empathetic in the short time that they are in my care. Sadly I often get them to hospital and then they are looked after in the first instance by a nurse who's had a bad day and can't be bothered with another 'attention seeker'. So often these people fall through the cracks in the mental health system. These people are making a cry for help - if you know someone like this people please be there for them. It can be extremely difficult, but please persevere.

Sometimes tho, there is no cry for help. IF there were warning signs they were so subtle that people only realise after the event. Often these people have led seemingly happy lives and there seems to be no rhyme or reason for it. The only person who knew what was happening in their heads was them.

The people left behind deserve our deepest sympathy.

[Al]

Condolences to all affected by the sad turn of events...
Wish we could see when someone is troubled and try to help them. Words are difficult to come by in these circumstances and our heartfelt sympathy to Mstrs, Yungatart, hXc and friends and family of the young lad so tragically departed. :grouphug:

Al & Thea

[Back Fire]

Wasn't sure where to put this post, but wanted to let you all know. A friend of hXc hanged himself this morning. hXc may not be on for a day or two as he is very upset. He also lost a nephew only a month ago.
Yungatart has been helping 270 Year 10 kids get through today.
Note to parents - Please love your kids & look out for them always. Talk to them all you can.
Note to younger members here. If you have issues that are troubling you, Please talk to your folks or at least to someone who cares.
We do not want to have this sort of thing happen so needlessly.

kinda close to home.... I have cuts all over my body from when I was younger, had major problems... but counselling got me straight, probably wouldn't be here if it wasn't for counseling. They don't make teens aware enough about it though.

[Indiana_Jones]

My condolences to the family.

-Indy

[froggyfrenchman]

My thoughts lay with the three of you and the friends and family of the lad. I hope you can all find the strength you need to get through these next few weeks. Keep your head up hxc, i know that its sad and a waste, but he is now where he wanted to be. Thinking that is all that got me through a friends suicide last year.
Happy thoughts guys.
Contact me if you need anything at all.

[hXc]

Hi everybody. Well as you can all probably understand my post count may go down for a while. I'm pretty much, a mess. That sums it up. I thank you all so much for your support and Jim2 and Riff Raff especially. You all mean a lot to me even though I havn't met many of you.

Not much else to say right now but thanks so much for everything :grouphug: :grouphug: :grouphug:

[Scorpygirl]

To all involved in this very sad tragedy - please accept my deepest condolences and please, please keep hugging one another and supporting each other. hXc - take good care of yourself and your young mates as you try to deal with this. It's not easy having to deal with sudden death at any age, but it's especially hard when you are young.

I have had my fair share of mental health issues and have had years of counselling and some time in a psych unit to sort my way through the issues. I now have the take medication to keep the balance. I have had attempted suicide too. The last attempt saw me in ICU and it was touch and go. However I am through that now and keep on the positive side of life.

Just keep talking, hugging and caring for one another!!!!

[Skyryder]

Sorry to hear about this hxc. Had a realie hang himself a few years ago so have some idea what you are about at this time. There are no simple answers as to why these tradgedys happen. The only advice I can give is that 'we'll never know.' That's not meant to be callouse hxc but at times like this there are some answers that's it's 'best not for us to know.'

Skyryder

[SpeedyGirl]

am thinking of their friends and family, my condolances....... i have been there and sending my love & thoughts to you all :hug:

[Colapop]

My biggest fear for my kids. I can't say much but stay strong and talk to someone... it does help.
It is something that needs to spoken about, without communication we are on our own.

[yungatart]

Thanks all for your support for us especially tho for Zac, he is coping but very confused and quiet (not like him at all). Thanks to all who have PM'd us and/or him, chatted to him online and phoned. Its having people who care that makes these things bearable, and MSTRS and I are really grateful.

[ajturbo]

just remeber people... this typ of event is NOT restricted to the young ones....

it is a very sad time for everyone involed .. i know...
the support you give to the one's left behind will be needed.... get in their face and let them know you are there for them at ANYTIME...
simple words like that go a hell of a long way..











people have been there for me ... they may have not known at the time how much i needed them at the time, but they have said those words to me....and they help!!!!!!!!!

[MadDuck]

I tried to stay away from this thread as it has brought back an awful memory for me personally. Its not just the young - the fact is we cant go back and we cant say the what ifs?

From my experience you will go through every emotion available to a human being. Sorrow...disbelief...guilt...anger and just when you think all is well you will go through the same emotions.

Just when you think you have your emotions sussed a memory, a smell, a comment from someone unknowingly will bring it all back. The thing that gets me the most is that these (and I dont mean that in a derogatory nature) people have friends and family. They hurt those of us they leave behind like they would never understand because they never considered us.

How you get through it is with time and that can take years. To hear of someone so young saddens me. My thoughts are with you and your family hxc

[Kornholio]

Yeah sorry to hear that...condolences to all involved :|

[Storm]

Sorry to hear it mate, hope you have plenty of support there for you all

[SPORK]

What a terrible tragedy. What can you say? Hang in there hXc. And MRSTRS and yungatart this must be your worst nightmare, hang in there too, OK?
Hmm, "hanging in" was perhaps not the best thing to say.

As a 15yo, stuff like this wierds me out. I have a couple of girl friends that are teh contemplating suicide part. In fact, I've probably spent the last 3 years stopping them/others.

Far out. Sucks to all involved...

[Lias]

surely there must be something terribly wrong when teenagers wake up one morning and decide that the next six or seven decades of life aren't worth hanging around for.

but what?

is it because their brains are broken, and they need to be fixed with medication until they grow out of a random neural misconnection that's causing erratic irrationality?

is it because life's being so horrible to them that another few years of endurance are unbearable, and would cause such lasting damage that they might as well give up on existence now?

is it because the selfish little gits think that they're really boring and insignificant (probably true), will be dead one day in any case, and might as well cause as much of an impact as they can while there are still people who care about them?

there must be a common causal thread.

but I've never experienced it first-hand, so would anyone who has care to comment?

Depression isn't rational, nor is it caused by any one particular thing. Shitty childhoods, drug & alchohol abuse, can certainly cause it but arnt the only causes. I dont think anyone, including the experts knows all the causes of depression.

I've suffered from depression in the past (still get occasional bouts but rarely and not as bad as they used to be). I can only say that its a bit like being the ultimate pessimist. I felt like my life wasnt going anywhere, I was always going to be in debt, I was never going to find a good woman, I didn't have any friends (even thou I had plenty), the thought of living another 60 years of beign in debt, unhappy, working my life away to make someone else rich was just so horrible there didnt seem any point to bothering. About the only thing that kept me from topping myself back then was the memory of a friend of mine killing himself, and my mother telling me she never wanted to bury another child after my sister died. I was lucky in having those thoughts to hold onto and stop me from going over the edge, but I can certainly see why others have killed themselves.

The worst part about depression is that even when you have loving family, good friends, etc, because of the depression you feel alone and isolated, and like there is no-one there for you.

My 2 cents.

[SPORK]

Eating tuna helps stop depression.

[TLDV8]

My condolences go out to those affected by this... i guess sad as it is,what is a little more tragic is those involved directly are left behind to dwell on what could have been done to avoid it,or how it was missed,sometimes blaming themselves..when there is little that can be done in a lot of cases unless the person comes out beforehand and reveals how they are feeling,which can be hidden behind a mask in public...I think in youth it can be related to hormone imbalance that can start a cycle.
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I'm not really sure what depression is,but do NOT think it relates to happy or sad but more like a overwhelming greyness even if that person is happy in themselves.

[InDeSkyz]

I'm keeping this brief.
hXc, I don't know if this will apply man, but DO NOT blame yourself.
If you start, for some reason, thinking about 'what if I saw this earlier/did something differently', just remember the above.

And if you can't remember the above. Think of oranges being orange.

[Biff]

Such a shame.
I have a best friend whose father recently hung himself. I did what I could to help him through the shock, guilt & questioning. The only advice I can possible give is be there, and listen.

Listen and offer support. And don’t forget there are independent trained councillors out there more than happy to listen and provide support if and when required. Which may be next week, or 6 months from now.

The very best of luck to everyone affected during this difficult time.