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F5 Dave
12th November 2018, 19:44
Is fogging me off.
So as a fair weather biker this is of little consequence. Except on our annual tour where it seems to rain at least one or two days.
Bloody dangerous not being able to see properly. This helmet just seems more prone than any I've had of the last, well I'm going to say 20 for effect, but there's been dirt and race helmets in the mix so let's just say a dozen road ones. And although the visor has several well defined open positions it doesn't fully clear.
HJC FG17 or something, either way it's coming up 5yrs old so replacement time.
I run dark visors and carry a clear if on tour or night. The clear came with a factory fitted antifog pinlock insert, seemed to work for a while, but got fog in it in the rain one tour. Bought a new one and spent ages cleaning preparing and fitting, tuning the tension. Had to rip it out in disgust some while later.
The HJC midrange helmets have good SHARP ratings, fit great and aren't too spendy. But every year I curse the antifog properties.
Panel?
mulletman
12th November 2018, 19:59
Grab a helmet with a drop down dark visor , no more carrying either, ive had great sucess with shark helmets and their
pinlocks work a charm.
buggerit
12th November 2018, 20:11
If I notice fogging with the pinlock, its always because it has lost its seal. I usually install it with a seasonable amount of pressure on the pins.
I generally adjust the cams to about a 3rd then put a soft towel on the floor and put a socked foot on each end of the visor so each end is about
50mm off the floor, then tuck the ends of the pinlock in the cams and then press the centre down till it pops out against the visor.
Then grab a thin bit of shiny paper and check around the edge of the pinlock for gaps. My 5 cents:drinknsin
granstar
12th November 2018, 20:51
An awesome ride in the weekend " The Longest Day", but same issue in heavy rain around the Catlins visibility deteriorated badly. Stopped at Tokonui to sort it and found the water was in between the pinlock and the shield that was causing the fogging. Wiped it out with a cloth and it got me home. My riding buddy also had a pinlock ( a brand new one) fitted on his helmet and when he stopped beside me and was cursing it...had same issue. He took the pinlock right off to get home safely. Jus say'n. We both got Shoie helmets.
mulletman
12th November 2018, 20:58
Did the Longest Ride to and had shit rain for many many hours :mad: my Shark and a mates Shoie were faultless with the pinlocks.
AllanB
12th November 2018, 22:05
I've not had a issue on very cold days with a series of HJC. Can't attest to shitty wet rides as now days I just polish it when it's pissing down :niceone:
Did you have the nose shield fitted? These make a big difference.
SaferRides
13th November 2018, 05:54
I bought a Shoei NXR about 2 years ago. I use the nose shield thingy and find the chin vent keeps the visor clear even at low speeds, 20 - 30 km/h. Once over about 60 km/h I can move the vent to the half open position. So I've never needed to fit the Pinlock that came in the box.
F5 Dave
13th November 2018, 06:15
Hmm, NXR: 4 star Sharp rating, not too bad, same as my HJC. A grand with a dark visor or $850 In plain colour.
That's a maybe. For that money I'd hope a 5 star.
Laava
13th November 2018, 06:16
Have had several pinlocks now and when they are sealed properly they are fantastic. If not tho, they are worse than not having one. Careful setup is the key.
SaferRides
13th November 2018, 10:42
Hmm, NXR: 4 star Sharp rating, not too bad, same as my HJC. A grand with a dark visor or $850 In plain colour.
That's a maybe. For that money I'd hope a 5 star.
Yeah, the visors aren't cheap. You should be able to get a discount off retail though, and you'd probably find someone like Boyds would do a visor swap.
HJC's are much better value.
mulletman
13th November 2018, 11:05
Ive bought from chromeburner
https://www.chromeburner.com/helmets/helmets-brands/helmets-brands-shoei/filter/nxr/
babysteps
13th November 2018, 11:31
Another upvote for Chromeburner. Great service and price
rambaldi
13th November 2018, 13:44
Grab a helmet with a drop down dark visor , no more carrying either, ive had great sucess with shark helmets and their
pinlocks work a charm.
Love having a drop down visor, it is one of the only must haves in my search for a new lid (the other being accept a pinlock, I have felt a lot of envy of my wife's helmet when commuting). The only issue with the drop down visors is that on a bad enough day they will also fog up.
Pinloc do smoked/yellow lenses or photochromic (they call it PROTECTINT) lenses as well now. They all look an interesting option.
HenryDorsetCase
13th November 2018, 14:34
https://davida-helmets.com/collections/davida-jet-helmet/products/80754-cosmic-flake-silver-red-flames-davida-jet-helmet
You're welcome.
Banditbandit
13th November 2018, 15:33
I've got a visor spray - inside and out - no fogging and no rain sticking to the outside ...
Check at your local ..
FJRider
13th November 2018, 16:52
I've got a visor spray - inside and out - no fogging and no rain sticking to the outside ...
Check at your local ..
There is stuff in a spray can called FOG-OFF. (Works for me.)
If that runs out on a ride ... I use the clothes-peg method. A spring loaded clothes peg clipped onto the bottom of the visor keeps a small gap at the front open. Wind pressure usually keeps the sides of the visor closed.
russd7
13th November 2018, 18:09
Did the Longest Ride to and had shit rain for many many hours :mad: my Shark and a mates Shoie were faultless with the pinlocks.
we had rain on and off but the only serious rain we had was through the catlins and that was torrential, I ended up ripping my pinlock out. good ride tho
F5 Dave
13th November 2018, 19:53
There is stuff in a spray can called FOG-OFF. (Works for me.)
If that runs out on a ride ... I use the clothes-peg method. A spring loaded clothes peg clipped onto the bottom of the visor keeps a small gap at the front open. Wind pressure usually keeps the sides of the visor closed.
A decent helmet system has several positions of almost, a little, a bit, a lot, open and these stay put at 100kph.
F5 Dave
13th November 2018, 19:59
Ok long story short, in at TSS and Andrew says he's commuted with an NXR and really rates pinlock system and just in general.
Well I sez, that's two votes, let's go have a looksee. Fits my headshape so went for a straight colour and used the saving to justify a black visor and still a couple of tanks fills. Kinda.
Thanks for ideas.
So long HJC, it's been real, but time to try another path. First Shoei since the 90s.
FJRider
13th November 2018, 21:01
A decent helmet system has several positions of almost, a little, a bit, a lot, open and these stay put at 100kph.
FJ1200's ... sometimes have a tendency to travel a little faster than 100 km/hr.
Swoop
13th November 2018, 22:14
FJ1200's ... sometimes have a tendency to travel a little faster than 100 km/hr.
Possibly up to 104km/h?
Our propaganda experts inform us that anything over that is suicidal, kills baby seals and causes global warming.
Berries
13th November 2018, 22:29
Ok long story short, in at TSS and Andrew says he's commuted with an NXR and really rates pinlock system and just in general.
Well I sez, that's two votes, let's go have a looksee.
Make that three. I have an NXR unt pinlock. The only time I have had an issue is when the cam needed tightening. Was very happy with Fog City inserts until I upgraded to pinlock. Wouldn't go back. Pretty sure the breath guard/nose shield plays a part as well.
Having said all that, I find it a bit noisy at 104km/h and will try something else next time.
SaferRides
15th November 2018, 05:40
Make that three. I have an NXR unt pinlock. The only time I have had an issue is when the cam needed tightening. Was very happy with Fog City inserts until I upgraded to pinlock. Wouldn't go back. Pretty sure the breath guard/nose shield plays a part as well.
Having said all that, I find it a bit noisy at 104km/h and will try something else next time.
Agreed, they're not the quietest helmet - the GT Air I had for a while was better. But it's light, comfortable and the aero is good. The main pro for me is my glasses fit perfectly.
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