Royal Enfield Interceptor

[Voltaire]

Due for release in Feb,
$10 500 + ORC
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/921442649.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1853555574&rsqid=afecf83b0dc74da3a4c72d764068f19d

No real reviews as of yet as all the ones on the net are from Junkets and India, where anything with more than 30 BHP would get rave reviews.

My fussy Engineer mate had a good look at them at the bike show and was very positive, apparently lots of pre orders.

I like the red/black one.

https://www.scooterstyle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Royal-Enfield-Interceptor-650cc-Black-Red-Lifestyle.jpg

[Scubbo]

Indesium though? not sure about the price, PR demos look nice though whats wrong with the Kawasaki W800 ;)

[Blackbird]

Must say that it does look nice. The attached photo is one I took in 1994 at a classic bike rally just outside New Plymouth. A pair of very nice original Connies. Head and barrel shape are pretty similar.

[Kickaha]

Looks better in the pics than real life, I thought it looked quite bulky, I'd rather have a Himalayan

[AllanB]

Here ya go - been reading about them this week.

https://www.cycleworld.com/2019-royal-enfield-int650-first-ride

I get a e-mail from Ducati every now and then (makes me feel like part of the Desmo family, good marketing) - very recently they were all excited over producing over 55,000 motorcycles in the past twelve months.

So the text below about RE stunned me.

[KevinD]

Due for release in Feb,
$10 500 + ORC
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/plus/921442649.jpg
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=1853555574&rsqid=afecf83b0dc74da3a4c72d764068f19d

No real reviews as of yet as all the ones on the net are from Junkets and India, where anything with more than 30 BHP would get rave reviews.

My fussy Engineer mate had a good look at them at the bike show and was very positive, apparently lots of pre orders.

I like the red/black one.

https://www.scooterstyle.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Royal-Enfield-Interceptor-650cc-Black-Red-Lifestyle.jpg

They're more than a bit over priced in NZ, they're only around $5500 NZD in India, shipping would be minimal. Someone is making a killing....

[HenryDorsetCase]

Its the price leader in that segment for sure. Triumph Street Twin is half as much again, Yamaha SR400 is cheaper but soooooo slooooooow.

For $10500 why not buy an actual old bike for the full experience?

[Voltaire]

Its the price leader in that segment for sure. Triumph Street Twin is half as much again, Yamaha SR400 is cheaper but soooooo slooooooow.

For $10500 why not buy an actual old bike for the full experience?

Does that mean stripping/reassembling worn out carbs, setting up points ignition, poor brakes and suspension?

I've got an unrestored 35 year old BMW thats up for it any time, the British and Italian stuff not so much.

I'd be keen on a ride of the RE, but if its as boring as the 900cc Triumph Thruxton would rather just ride the ol BMW.

[AllanB]

Price - USD $6000 - 6500 depending on the model.

With the current exchange rate that's $8,800 to just under $10k NZD so the price is about right in NZ.

It would have been smarter to market them at $9,999. Really smart.

[Scubbo]

Does that mean stripping/reassembling worn out carbs, setting up points ignition, poor brakes and suspension?
...

you'll still get that with a brand new royal enfield + the steel and welds will be poooooooooor

[Ginge09]

“For $10500 why not buy an actual old bike for the full experience?”

...well you won’t get a decent RE Interceptor for that money in NZ but you can get a decent BSA or Triumph 650. Plus cheap rego, cheap parts and a mechanical learning experience.

I like the look but RE have missed the boat for retro bikes. Triumph did it well. Mahindra/BSA yet to show promise

The Himalayan is an interesting beast. Entry level adventure bike.

[SaferRides]

Does that mean stripping/reassembling worn out carbs, setting up points ignition, poor brakes and suspension?

I've got an unrestored 35 year old BMW thats up for it any time, the British and Italian stuff not so much.

I'd be keen on a ride of the RE, but if its as boring as the 900cc Triumph Thruxton would rather just ride the ol BMW.

It's probably even more boring.

I could be persuaded to trade in the R1 on a Speed Triple. But not a RE or Triumph twin.

[GrayWolf]

Well the Motorcycle trader review was pretty positive, and, I have to admit I LOVE the 650 Conti's look. I think they will be a lot better for build quality than people are expecting.

[Voltaire]

One of the first ride videos.
Probably fells like when the Z1 Kawasaki arrived on the scene.
Some pretty keen riding on the motorway.:shit:


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGSOCIJpgEs

[AllanB]

Motorway fun in India!

Later in the video they zoom in on the engine and the castings look very good.

Bet these start appearing on Pipeburn and Bikeexif and the likes modified - cheap to buy and a easy canvas to modify.

Triumph must have had wind of it so pulled out the 1200 engines otherwise they would have had some serious competition.

[Navy Boy]

A work colleague and I went along to Red Baron in Lower Hutt today to have a look at the 2 examples of the 650 that they have in at the moment. The Interceptor and GT they had in were both in fairly subdued colours which, to be frank, didn't help their case. I reckon the Burnt Orange colour scheme will make a difference.

On face value they look to be well executed bikes with a decent standard of finishing. The engine casings for example look to be good with no obvious cost cutting going on. However the seat units on both appeared to be quite flimsy and are evidence of where costs have been cut.

This is of course no great surprise - Indeed many people will replace the sets units anyway so I can see the logic. I was left with the impression that RE have spent the R+D money where it's most needed and the bits that aren't as flash will be ripe for personalisation.

Interestingly there was a 2016 Triumph Street Twin in the store too. It had low mileage on it (Less than 3000Km I think) and was in excellent condition. It was priced at $12500 I think and poses a difficult question of anyone contemplating paying the $10500 or so for a new Interceptor.

Personally on the evidence of what I saw I'd need a proper test ride on both before deciding but I guess that the very fact there's a choice to be made speaks volumes for the RE's cause. I'll be interested to see what the press here in NZ make of it.

Anyone on KB managed to ride one yet?

[AllanB]

I spied the GT at the local dealer this morning. I actually looks very tidy. I prefer the engine design to the Bonnie from a physical point as it appears smaller and skinnier than the Triumph lump (no actual measurements taken).

I hope they do well, we are already starting to see the RE650 being used as a base for custom bikes on the interweb.

Ironically the best looking of the retro engines of this configuration is/was the Kawasaki w650/800 series.

[pete376403]

Ironically the best looking of the retro engines of this configuration is/was the Kawasaki w650/800 series.

Plus you got bevel gear drive cam in the Kawasaki

[AllanB]

Plus you got bevel gear drive cam in the Kawasaki

I know - cooler than cool stuff. The aftermarket can supply a small cover with a glass window in it to view the bevel goodness in operation.

[Laava]

One of the first ride videos.
Probably fells like when the Z1 Kawasaki arrived on the scene.
Some pretty keen riding on the motorway.:shit:

[video=youtube;video]

Lol, the guys narrative sounded like an auction!
also, he seeemed to be going on and on about the fuel consumption?

[Voltaire]

I wonder if they will still be selling the 500 as the price gap is not huge.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1883634275.htm?rsqid=b16deffeb9df4547b9cbe417dbda0 87a
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/937145500.jpg

[Navy Boy]

I wonder if they will still be selling the 500 as the price gap is not huge.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-1883634275.htm?rsqid=b16deffeb9df4547b9cbe417dbda0 87a
https://trademe.tmcdn.co.nz/photoserver/full/937145500.jpg

Mmm... Good question. I wouldn't pay that for a 500 Bullet if I'm honest. Not when the Himalayan costs less and arguably more useful.

I hope the 650 models sell in sufficient numbers for them to keep bringing them here.

[tanken2]

nearly went with the 535 single continental , just you could get a lot more for the price , which I think I didhttps://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1862072606.htm?rsqid=58ce20cbac00429cb92d4065f6dc4 b74

[Navy Boy]

nearly went with the 535 single continental , just you could get a lot more for the price , which I think I didhttps://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1862072606.htm?rsqid=58ce20cbac00429cb92d4065f6dc4 b74

With RE, perhaps more than any other manufacturer, the price point is going to be crucial. The 650s are at a good price point IMHO and they should, from what I've read thus far, compete well with bikes at the same price level. I guess it all depends on where you're coming from. A liquid-cooled Bonneville rider isn't likely to be that moved but coming from a LAMS 250 you'll be more easily swayed.

I hope it does well for them. Now a 650-powered Himalayan??? That'd be interesting!

[midnight rambler]

Hi all, just found this post ,bit old but thought I would answer in case anyone is considering a new 650 Enfield. I’ve been a rider for close to 40 yrs now and have got to a stage where I don’t need a big bike anymore and took an Interceptor and a Continental for test ride. I now own an Interceptor ,same colour as the first post.
I feel like I’ve done a full circle back to my first bike but a very refined version.
Was a bit dubious at first ,being Indian made, quality issues etc. but RE have really upped their game on this. Here’s what I can tell you..
The motor is a new, for Enfield, design. 6 speed , 270*crank ,air/oil cooled ,overhead cam 4 valves per cylinder with a nice touch of modern stuff.. EFI that is perfectly mapped and is self learning if you change mufflers,intake. ABS and slipper clutch. The motor is smooth,very smooth. Hums along at 100k with plenty in reserve when you need it. Which is much as I want to do now. Funny, the day I picked the bike up I was heading back to my boatshed just feeling it out and suddenly a siren,stop ,get off the bike and say “Fuck..I’ve only had the bike 10 minutes, sorry about that” . He says I was doing 77 in a 50k zone,goes and sits in the car with my licence to check me out, I’m wondering if there’s any unpaid fines. He comes back ,hands me my licence and says “In the spirit of Christmas watch your speed” No ticket. Thank you.
Back to the bike,the finish is great ,the welds superb ,I can’t fault it and I’m loving riding it around the back roads here (Whangarei). And it looks like a motorbike. Have had a lot of positive comments about it and my partner likes it,which is a bonus.
I’ve only had it 10 days so it’s still early. Dropped the running in oil at 500k have done 1200 now.
Full price with orc was 10,879. My first new bike.
Feel free with any questions.
Cheers

Here’s my list of previous bikes,in order,you can throw a couple of scooters and a few dirt bikes in there.
‘64 BSA A65
‘78 Laverda Jota 1000
‘76 Laverda SF3 750
‘96 Cagiva Elefant 900
‘06 Buell XB12S
‘85 BMW R65
‘96 Moto Guzzi Sport 1100i
‘80 Moto Morini Sport 500
‘01 Moto Guzzi Jackal 1100

[Navy Boy]

Congratulations on the new purchase. They are indeed a nice bike and they'll hopefully keep RE in the hunt sales-wise. If you can please post some pictures so we can see what you've bought.

[Bonez]

Good to hear.Do keep us updated. If I hadn't gotten my CB550/4 back on the road these and the W650/800 were bikes I would've concidered purchasing.

[midnight rambler]

Congratulations on the new purchase. They are indeed a nice bike and they'll hopefully keep RE in the hunt sales-wise. If you can please post some pictures so we can see what you've bought.

Here’s a couple of pics from yesterday. Just gave it a going over with SealX

[midnight rambler]

Its the price leader in that segment for sure. Triumph Street Twin is half as much again, Yamaha SR400 is cheaper but soooooo slooooooow.

For $10500 why not buy an actual old bike for the full experience?

I `ear ya `enry but it’s a nicer bike,hopefully reliable, and brand spankin` new. My first bike was a 650 BSA, we used to joke it stood for Bring Spanner’s Along. A mixed bag at that, Whitworth,BSF etc.
I’m thinking of mounting a Scottoiler under the sump so when I want the “full experience” I can turn it on ,ride around for a bit and park on friends driveways. :)

[Bonez]

Kawl. Just curious have you figured out the fuel range yet? Be interesting to compare with similar specced bikes old and new.

Didn't take long for perf kits to come out, https://www.sscycle.com/feature/royal-enfield-650-twin/performance-parts-for-royal-enfield-650-twins If it can take those kits without much/any bottem end work means it's over engineered down below, which is good.

A nice road test https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KdHfJQMRuqY Looks like if you are a tallerfrider a bit more seat hight is the go.

[midnight rambler]

Does that mean stripping/reassembling worn out carbs, setting up points ignition, poor brakes and suspension?

I've got an unrestored 35 year old BMW thats up for it any time, the British and Italian stuff not so much.

I'd be keen on a ride of the RE, but if its as boring as the 900cc Triumph Thruxton would rather just ride the ol BMW.

No. EFI ,excellent brakes,ABS, good suspension.
I see you ride a Commando, in my early days I used to ride with two friends,brothers ,who rode a 750 and an 850. Would leave my beeza for dead,no worries. Nice bikes.

[midnight rambler]

you'll still get that with a brand new royal enfield + the steel and welds will be poooooooooor

No, they’ve upped their game on this. Good welds. Four years ago the Enfield owner company bought Harris Performance,the English frame company. They worked on the frame development. The development of the bike was done by Enfield UK. Don’t judge the Interceptor /Continental by the Bullet

[midnight rambler]

Kawl. Just curious have you figured out the fuel range yet? Be interesting to compare with similar specced bikes old and new.

Didn't take long for perf kits to come out, https://www.sscycle.com/feature/royal-enfield-650-twin/performance-parts-for-royal-enfield-650-twins If it can take those kits without much/any bottem end work means it's over engineered down below, which is good.

Haven’t worked that out yet,just top her up when she needs it. Will be commuting down to Kumeu once a week shortly ,will post the range then.
Yeah aftermarket stuff is out already. Will definitely be replacing mufflers at some stage. They weigh 5.2kg each! They have the catalytic converters in them apparently. The pipes are double walled. I’m waiting for a full exhaust system to come out,hopefully with the cans lower down so I can mount my soft panniers. Apparently you don’t need to remap the ECU when you make changes, just idle it for a bit,take it for a ride and it sorts it self out. Self learning. Great

[Bonez]

Should be able to slip on a pair of EMGO reverse cone, Cafe or Dunstal replicas on the pipes, mounting them lower, easy enough at about $150 a pop. Had a reverse cone EMGO on my CB550/4 for well over 20 years without a sign of rusting. A mates Ducati 500 also had them. You may have to make up a small adapter depending on the current pipes dia. but any eng; shop will drum a couple up to your design quick smart.

The second pic shows the Cafe "mufflers"(matt and chrome) which are straight through but two sizes of baffle inserts are available.

[midnight rambler]

Should be able to slip on a pair of EMGO reverse cone, Cafe or Dunstal replicas on the pipes easy enough at about $150 a pop. Had a reverse cone EMGO on my CB550/4 for over 20 years without a sign of rusting.

The second pic shows the Cafe "mufflers"(matt or chrome) which straight through but baffles are available.

Cheers for that. Yeah ,getting aftermarket cans shouldn’t be a problem but I want to get different pipes first that don’t rise so much at the rear . Might end up getting some made but not for a while ,I’ll see what turns up. The 650 is selling well so there’ll be a lot turning up. Right now I just want to ride her.
Re the fuel range, she sits on 100kph at 4000rpm. Redline is 7500. I’m at the‘ dont go over 6000‘ stage of running in.

[Bonez]

Yeah I understand the new thing having had four over the years. I certainly do hope the Enfeild 650 twins do well. I could see one in my garage.Haven't seen any down here in the Manawatu yet. Being 60 you tend to take stock of things :) Got rid of a shed full of bikes two years ago.

[Bonez]

Regular servicing vid for the 650s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aid3ltqj3aI Screw and lock nut for valve clearances as it should be, nice.

Series on an Enfeild 650 project.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NL18HZGkc 4 part.

[pritch]

Apparently you don’t need to remap the ECU when you make changes, just idle it for a bit,take it for a ride and it sorts it self out. Self learning. Great

Some (all?) Triumphs can "learn". The RE may be similar. Speed Triples respond to "the fifteen minute tune up". Start the bike without touching the throttle, run it @ idle until the fan comes on, then run it fifteen minutes more. The oxygen sensor does its thing.

If your bike has a sensor and you buy new pipes, make sure they have a sensor connection 'cause that let's the magic happen.

Enjoy.

[Bonez]

As pritch said don't touch the throttle. 10 minute still with engine running then a 3-5 km run to see if everything is running ok.

Enfeild 650 service manual.https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=27178.0

[midnight rambler]

Regular servicing vid for the 650s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aid3ltqj3aI Screw and lock nut for valve clearances as it should be, nice.

Series on an Enfeild 650 project.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9NL18HZGkc 4 part.

Thanks. Have watched a lot of the 650 vids on YouTube . This guy does a good series https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wDvy5RazcRc. Basic stuff most older gentleman know how to do.

[midnight rambler]

As pritch said don't touch the throttle. 10 minute still with engine running then a 3-5 km run to see if everything is running ok.

Enfeild 650 service manual.https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?topic=27178.0

Thanks. Had the link to the service manual but have to wait till I’m hooked up to WiFi . Too big to download hotspotting through my phone. Cheers Mr Bonez
I reckon you’re gonna buy one.

[midnight rambler]

Some (all?) Triumphs can "learn". The RE may be similar. Speed Triples respond to "the fifteen minute tune up". Start the bike without touching the throttle, run it @ idle until the fan comes on, then run it fifteen minutes more. The oxygen sensor does its thing.

If your bike has a sensor and you buy new pipes, make sure they have a sensor connection 'cause that let's the magic happen.

Enjoy.

Cheers Pritch. They probably use the same ECU . Bosch EFI and ABS according to a vid I saw. Will know more once I download the service manual hopefully .
Yeah I’m aware of the sensors, they’re at the head of the pipes. This is my fourth EFI bike. Starting off old school carbie ,right back in the `tickling the Amal’s till your fingers wet’ days, I wasn’t too comfortable with my first EFI, thinking if it failed I wouldn’t be able to bodge it on the side of the road but it’s been faultless on every bike.

[Bonez]

Thanks. Had the link to the service manual but have to wait till I’m hooked up to WiFi . Too big to download hotspotting through my phone. Cheers Mr Bonez
I reckon you’re gonna buy one.
LOL. Been through the whole manual already. Saw a Red Intercepter on my wee toodle today. Was tempted to turn around a follow the chap......

[Anky]

It is looking really very nice....in red and block

[husaberg]

I was passed today by an Enfeild Twin sounded terrible almost like a cb360, they must have a 180 crank.

[pritch]

I was passed today by an Enfeild Twin sounded terrible almost like a cb360, they must have a 180 crank.

270 degrees.

[husaberg]

270 degrees.

not what ever past me 'it had no sound at all like a TRX or Ducati
it was like a sewing machine.
just had a look on the met for tests, feck if that what it sounds like on Std Mufflers it sound hideous
Loud pipes save lives

[scumdog]

'Er indoors wants an Interceptor 650 with an orange tank:Punk:


And may well get it once this Covid crap has eased up some more.

[scumdog]

Well we went to MCR in Dunners and are taking possession of a RE Interceptor with an Orange Crush petrol tank..

I was surprised how well the bike went considering they're a LAMS bike, I certainly wasn't underwhelmed....

I guess being half the weight of an Electraglide makes them pretty nimble....

[ellipsis]

Well we went to MCR in Dunners and are taking possession of a RE Interceptor with an Orange Crush petrol tank..

I was surprised how well the bike went considering they're a LAMS bike, I certainly wasn't underwhelmed....

I guess being half the weight of an Electraglide makes them pretty nimble....

...if you are half the weight of an Elactraglide I'd be getting a push bike...

[Kickaha]

I guess being half the weight of an Electraglide makes them pretty nimble....

Yeah but it's probably got the HP of an Electraglide as well

[scumdog]

Yeah but it's probably got the HP of an Electraglide as well

In that case the Electraglide would be LAMS approve!

But it isn't...:bleh:

[Kickaha]

In that case the Electraglide would be LAMS approve!

But it isn't...:bleh:

Only because it's over the CC limit

[Paul in NZ]

I actually fancy one of those - I'm be really interested in your impressions of it on the road.

These look interesting as well

https://benellimotorcycles.co.nz/all-models/

[scumdog]

I actually fancy one of those - I'm be really interested in your impressions of it on the road.

These look interesting as well

https://benellimotorcycles.co.nz/all-models/

Will do Paul.

The test ride on the GT model showed me: it had more torque than I anticipated, it braked really well, handled very nimbly.

The six speed will be handy - and the centre stand.

Only negative was non cancelling indicators - and the fact that both green arrows on the 'dash' blinked at the same time regardless of which direction you were indicating - I kept thinking I had somehow turned on the hazard lights.

[FJRider]

Only negative was non cancelling indicators - and the fact that both green arrows on the 'dash' blinked at the same time regardless of which direction you were indicating - I kept thinking I had somehow turned on the hazard lights.

Talk to an auto-sparky. They might find a way to alter that for the best. You probably know a few.

Worth asking about though.

If you don't ask silly questions ... :msn-wink:

[pete376403]

Talk to an auto-sparky. They might find a way to alter that for the best. You probably know a few.

Worth asking about though.

If you don't ask silly questions ... :msn-wink:

https://safer-turn.com/smart-turn-system/

[Blackbird]

Only negative was non cancelling indicators - and the fact that both green arrows on the 'dash' blinked at the same time regardless of which direction you were indicating - I kept thinking I had somehow turned on the hazard lights.

My KTM does the same Tom. A bit cheapskate by using just one LED <_<

[scumdog]

https://safer-turn.com/smart-turn-system/

Ta for that, will look into it when we take delivery.:niceone:

[scumdog]

My KTM does the same Tom. A bit cheapskate by using just one LED <_<

On a low cost bike I would expect that but on a KTM?

I guess I got spoilt by the Harley indicator system with automatic cancelling after coming out of an intersection/ when overtaking etc - and having such large indicator switches.

[Blackbird]

On a low cost bike I would expect that but on a KTM?

I guess I got spoilt by the Harley indicator system with automatic cancelling after coming out of an intersection/ when overtaking etc - and having such large indicator switches.

I'm a first time KTM owner so I don't know whether it's been a traditional feature. I love it to bits and whilst the quality of cycle parts is pretty high, they go and put shitty OEM Maxxis tyres on the 790 which have bugger-all grip in the cooler weather. And we won't mention my warped disc rotors. It's almost as if the company accountant has a big say in the final spec without understanding functionality. Guess that applies to a lot of manufacurers.

[Navy Boy]

I'm a first time KTM owner so I don't know whether it's been a traditional feature. I love it to bits and whilst the quality of cycle parts is pretty high, they go and put shitty OEM Maxxis tyres on the 790 which have bugger-all grip in the cooler weather. And we won't mention my warped disc rotors. It's almost as if the company accountant has a big say in the final spec without understanding functionality. Guess that applies to a lot of manufacurers.

That's very true Geoff. I've had the front discs warp on a few bikes (A Moto Guzzi, Triumph and a BMW) all within the last 10 years and all this on bikes that had never been anywhere near a track and had been ridden with due consideration. It does seem to be a thing with bikes at the moment. I guess they have to curb costs somehow.

I do like the look of the RE Interceptor though. I'm also curious about the Benelli 752. It looks very Monster-ish. No bad thing IMHO.

[Paul in NZ]

I'm still getting used to indicators on mortorcycles so its not a biggie for me ;-)

[scumdog]

Well my RE arrived, a chrome tank version ("Glitter and Dust" is the official colour scheme.)

'er indoors got one with Orange Crush paint.

But due to recuperating from surgery I can't ride it for another fortnight or so....:argh::crybaby:

[Bonez]

Well my RE arrived, a chrome tank version ("Glitter and Dust" is the official colour scheme.)

'er indoors got one with Orange Crush paint.

But due to recuperating from surgery I can't ride it for another fortnight or so....:argh::crybaby:Any updates Scumdog? How is Mrs Scumdog getting on with her one?

[scumdog]

Any updates Scumdog? How is Mrs Scumdog getting on with her one?

We've just had first service done on the bikes, only done about 600km.

Both of us are quite taken by the bikes, certainly we're not underwhelmed - far from it in fact despite the low price and being LAMS certified
Mrs Scummy could do with a lower seat or thicker soled shoes as she can't get her feet flat on the ground.

Only niggle so far has been an occasional reluctance to go into 6th gear - but that seems to be improving with time and from reports I've read it's not uncommon with these bike - but so also is it improving with time.

Fuel cap is also quite tight, easy to get off but a nack to put back on

Oh, and nice having a centre-stand, something that's a first for me.

[Bonez]

We've just had first service done on the bikes, only done about 600km.

Both of us are quite taken by the bikes, certainly we're not underwhelmed - far from it in fact despite the low price and being LAMS certified
Mrs Scummy could do with a lower seat or thicker soled shoes as she can't get her feet flat on the ground.

Only niggle so far has been an occasional reluctance to go into 6th gear - but that seems to be improving with time and from reports I've read it's not uncommon with these bike - but so also is it improving with time.

Fuel cap is also quite tight, easy to get off but a nack to put back on

Oh, and nice having a centre-stand, something that's a first for me.

Centre stands are handy alright. I personnally wouldn't own a m/c without one. But then I like to do as much maintenance as I can myself.

Nice to hear you both quite like the RE 650 twins. They are deffinately the top of my list if Darky(my CB550F) ever became unrepairable. They just seem to be of the right propertion and have enough oomph for my style of riding.

I look foward to future updates.:niceone:

[sugilite]

Centre stands are handy alright. I personnally wouldn't own a m/c without one. But then I like to do as much maintenance as I can myself.

Which probably is the reason why your bikes need them.
Personally, I prefer the ground clearance without them, and have a race style stand for maintenance.

[Bonez]

Which probably is the reason why your bikes need them.
Personally, I prefer the ground clearance without them, and have a race style stand for maintenance.Can you carry that with you on a looooong ride and when you get a flatty carry out a repair on it or do you need a support vehical? Or wait a zillion hours for AA to turn up?

Oh and I bet your m/cs wont wont be able to limp 130kms home at 40-60kmph without the tyre rolling off the rim.:lol:


Just saying sweeetypie...

[sugilite]

Can you carry that with you on a looooong ride and when you get a flatty carry out a reoair on it or do you need a support vehical? Or wait a zillion hours for AA to turn up?

Just saying sweeetypie...
I just carry those tyre gummy things, they have served me well in the past. Ive never needed the AA.
I prefer to have all options available when encountering unexpected road debris. Extra ground clearance gives more options to react. Personal choice and all that, thats just how I roll.

[Bonez]

This thread is not about you numbnuts so please try to stay on topic will you.

I quite interested in what Mr and Mrs Skumdog thing of their RE 650. Not your demented rambles.

Just saying....

[sugilite]

Why so angry? Center stands came up as part of the discussion, you even asked me a question about them. Just chill bro, this is kiwibiker, not boner rider.

[Bonez]

See my previous post numbnuts.

You have been listening to those angry little voices in your head. So please stop your self deflections it's making you look silly and certainly hypercritical.

I'm not angry at all just wish to hear what Mr and Mrs Scumdog have to say about RE 659 twins that's all. Why is that hard for you to comprehend?

Oh and getting more gardening done in between your ramblings.

Just saying.

[sugilite]

Apparently my post is obsructing scumdogs ones from being read, sorry about that.
Im in the market for a new bike. Looked at both the royal enfield intercepter and himalayan. Liked them both but then spied a KTM 390 adventure. Really like the look of that, so will test ride all 3 before deciding. :yes:

[scumdog]

Apparently my post is obsructing scumdogs ones from being read, sorry about that.
Im in the market for a new bike. Looked at both the royal enfield intercepter and himalayan. Liked them both but then spied a KTM 390 adventure. Really like the look of that, so will test ride all 3 before deciding. :yes:

My guess is the KTM will be better than the Himalayan for your 'adventure rides'.

[Berries]

This thread is not about you numbnuts so please try to stay on topic will you..
From the biggest post whore troll around that is fucking classic.


Saw a nice RE heading south out of Dunedin last week. Not sure whether it was you SD. If so, nice man bag over your shoulder.

[FJRider]

... Mrs Scummy could do with a lower seat or thicker soled shoes as she can't get her feet flat on the ground.

Find a good upholsterer to reduce a bit of the front bit of the seat cushion, Done properly ... only you two would know it's been altered. It may surprise you how little needs removed.

And its been a few years since I had a motorcycle that I could flat-foot when stopped.

[sugilite]

My guess is the KTM will be better than the Himalayan for your 'adventure rides'.
I suspect you are right, though a fairly important consideration for me will be what the mrs wants to get, she is interested in the same bikes. I won't completely discount the Himalayan as there is a lot to say for tractor like power for the newbie to adventure riders like her. If she goes for that, I may follow suit just so we on the same page. I will admit to hoping she likes the perky KTM power delivery. I like the look of the power to ratio rate of the ktm. Even if she goes Himalayan, i just need to remind myself there is always the KX500 2 smoker in the garage if I want perky power lol.
Wait, stop press! there is a new adventure bike contender - the Harley Road king!
https://www.rideapart.com/news/485720/harley-davidson-road-king-off-road/
Props to that guy!

I'm impressed with the build of the interceptor, Royal Enfield are really making some moves, stealing all the right engineers for fuel injection and so on. To my mind, they just look like a motorcycle should, and go bloody well too by all accounts. I know Harris designed the frame for the 650 GT, does anyone know if the interceptor frame was designed by Harris too?

I'm sure you will really enjoy your new bike Scumdog, you may need to keep a eye on the wife's bike though, the km's might be mysteriously going up on it while you are in convalescing mode! :devil2:

[Berries]

From the biggest post whore troll around that is fucking classic.

Saw a nice RE heading south out of Dunedin last week. Not sure whether it was you SD. If so, nice man bag over your shoulder.

I get banned for that? Classic. Bonehead adds nothing to KB other than ADV reposts and 1980's computing shit which I covered off at primary school. What a snowflake for running off to Connie and complaining.

[scumdog]

I suspect you are right, though a fairly important consideration for me will be what the mrs wants to get, she is interested in the same bikes. I won't completely discount the Himalayan as there is a lot to say for tractor like power for the newbie to adventure riders like her. If she goes for that, I may follow suit just so we on the same page. I will admit to hoping she likes the perky KTM power delivery. I like the look of the power to ratio rate of the ktm. Even if she goes Himalayan, i just need to remind myself there is always the KX500 2 smoker in the garage if I want perky power lol.
Wait, stop press! there is a new adventure bike contender - the Harley Road king!
https://www.rideapart.com/news/485720/harley-davidson-road-king-off-road/
Props to that guy!

I'm impressed with the build of the interceptor, Royal Enfield are really making some moves, stealing all the right engineers for fuel injection and so on. To my mind, they just look like a motorcycle should, and go bloody well too by all accounts. I know Harris designed the frame for the 650 GT, does anyone know if the interceptor frame was designed by Harris too?

I'm sure you will really enjoy your new bike Scumdog, you may need to keep a eye on the wife's bike though, the km's might be mysteriously going up on it while you are in convalescing mode! :devil2:



The Continental GT and Interceptor share the same frame etc - it seems to be just the bars, tank and foot controls that are any different.

Turned down the GT after a test ride as the rear-sets were awkward for me with the way my knees are.

[scumdog]

From the biggest post whore troll around that is fucking classic.


Saw a nice RE heading south out of Dunedin last week. Not sure whether it was you SD. If so, nice man bag over your shoulder.

If it was Friday and if the 'man bag' was an ex-army bag then it could have been me, we headed home via GI and Brighton to Taieri Mouth and Waihola.

[scumdog]

We headed off to ‘the Burt’ on Thursday, good ride but got a wet arse the last 40km into Invercargill, saw one other Interceptor (had an L plate on it).
The weather picked up on Thursday night and we enjoyed all the racing, sadly missed seeing the big bore (865cc) RE in action as the beach racing and drag racing times overlapped.
Saw another Interceptor in the pits at the street racing, owned by a lady from Dunedin apparently.
Our Interceptors? Performed flawlessly, they handle quite nimbly -enough for me to avoid running over a wet cast iron manhole cover part way around a roundabout.
They seem to have enough grunt to accelerate swiftly enough in 6th gear to overtake - if there’s a reasonable lack of oncoming traffic.
Comfort wise they’re ok for a naked bike ( missed the screen and fairing of the Electraglide on Thursday afternoon) and even though the seats are firm I found I didn’t feel the need to stop for a leg stretch on the way home (CB did at Clinton!)
All in all we’re quite enjoying these bikes.

[scumdog]

We filled both bikes during the weekend after a 130km trip and the total amount of fuel to fill them was 5.6 litres, from that they seem fairly thrifty eh?:clap:

[GrayWolf]

The Continental GT and Interceptor share the same frame etc - it seems to be just the bars, tank and foot controls that are any different.

Turned down the GT after a test ride as the rear-sets were awkward for me with the way my knees are.

They are testing 3 'new' bikes in India (mules) 2 new cruisers and a 'new' bullet/classic all powered with the 650 donk.

[Bonez]

My little bro and dad mentioned last week over the dog n bone Freedom Motorcycles on Karamu road in Hastings had the range of RE650s in stock. I popped on olver there on Darky yesterday to have a gander and test ride if possible as I am very interested in them, They have the similar power output as my 76 CB550F and XF650 at ariound 50hp and similar diamentions ,weight and ground clearance to the CB550 when it was produced back in 1976.

Went on a 40km or so test ride on the Interceptor. Very impressed. Nimble, very very quiet, stable at speed and suited my 6' lanky frame comfortably. Having 50hp it is definately fine for all day riding pver hill and dale outside city limits. Down side is you wont be doing 170kph everywhere and falling in to ditches. That's fine by me.:Punk: Would I own one? Definitely YES.

Very economical at 65-70mpg, per imperial gallon of go juice. My CB550 only gets 47mpg riding in the 100-115kph range. My '98XF650 gets similar milage as the RE650 twins.

Things I would have done before leaving the show room floor:-

Have lower handle bars fitted. About 2" rise and more pull back. After market "Super bike" handle bars will do the job nicely. Despose of the brace on the handle bars. It is definitely is not needed.

Replace the mirrors with larger diameter chome ones similar to the GB400 ones fitted to the CB550.

I found the instruments too far down and would have them altered and rised to where the Continental ones are. Basily level or a bit higher than the top triple tee.

I do like the Continental tank shapecom,pared to the Interceptors. It's kind of Moto Guzzi La'Mansish.

I had a good look at the Continental rear sets and I don't think they'll be that bad at all. They're in a similar position to my old Honda CB750FD2 which I found very comfortable.

Good choice Mr and Mrs Scumdog.

A couple of links RE650 twin owners might find handy:-

Unofficial RE support forum with RE650 maintenace manual link. Himalaya workshop manual link is further down,

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bpd5n5tpg8c4ff8l2t7a510cs5&board=30.0

Illistrated part brakedown for RE650 twins.

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bpd5n5tpg8c4ff8l2t7a510cs5&board=30.0

Ride safe everyone.

[scumdog]

My little bro and dad mentioned last week over the dog n bone Freedom Motorcycles on Karamu road in Hastings had the range of RE650s in stock. I popped on olver there on Darky yesterday to have a gander and test ride if possible as I am very interested in them, They have the similar power output as my 76 CB550F and XF650 at ariound 50hp and similar diamentions ,weight and ground clearance to the CB550 when it was produced back in 1976.

Went on a 40km or so test ride on the Interceptor. Very impressed. Nimble, very very quiet, stable at speed and suited my 6' lanky frame comfortably. Having 50hp it is definately fine for all day riding pver hill and dale outside city limits. Down side is you wont be doing 170kph everywhere and falling in to ditches. That's fine by me.:Punk: Would I own one? Definitely YES.

Very economical at 65-70mpg, per imperial gallon of go juice. My CB550 only gets 47mpg riding in the 100-115kph range. My '98XF650 gets similar milage as the RE650 twins.

Things I would have done before leaving the show room floor:-

Have lower handle bars fitted. About 2" rise and more pull back. After market "Super bike" handle bars will do the job nicely. Despose of the brace on the handle bars. It is definitely is not needed.

Replace the mirrors with larger diameter chome ones similar to the GB400 ones fitted to the CB550.

I found the instruments too far down and would have them altered and rised to where the Continental ones are. Basily level or a bit higher than the top triple tee.

I do like the Continental tank shapecom,pared to the Interceptors. It's kind of Moto Guzzi La'Mansish.

I had a good look at the Continental rear sets and I don't think they'll be that bad at all. They're in a similar position to my old Honda CB750FD2 which I found very comfortable.

Good choice Mr and Mrs Scumdog.

A couple of links RE650 twin owners might find handy:-

Unofficial RE support forum with RE650 maintenace manual link. Himalaya workshop manual link is further down,

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bpd5n5tpg8c4ff8l2t7a510cs5&board=30.0

Illistrated part brakedown for RE650 twins.

https://forum.classicmotorworks.com/index.php?PHPSESSID=bpd5n5tpg8c4ff8l2t7a510cs5&board=30.0

Ride safe everyone.


A good write-up/assessment!:niceone:

Yet to be disappointed with my Interceptor, having said that two hours has been the longest I've ridden it for, was quite happy with the riding position and seat.

Mrs SD likewise happy with hers, both pf us definitely NOT iuderwhelmed by them!:2thumbsup

[Bonez]

No worries Scumdog. It's an honest mid capacity m/c.

Thanks for quoting my post btw. It'll irritate the KB Knitting Circle Ladies no end no dought.;)

[whenu]

Hi all, looking at replacing my BMW Funduro as my hip's a bit knackered and hard to get over the seat. Anyone ridden both for a mounting comparison. The RE looks alright, not too fussed about riding at excessive speeds.

[scumdog]

Hi all, looking at replacing my BMW Funduro as my hip's a bit knackered and hard to get over the seat. Anyone ridden both for a mounting comparison. The RE looks alright, not too fussed about riding at excessive speeds.

What model RE?

[whenu]

The Interceptor. Same or close seat height, but the Beemer has a higher pillion seat.

[scumdog]

The Interceptor. Same or close seat height, but the Beemer has a higher pillion seat.


The seat height is spot on for me but then I'm 'leggy', Mrs SD is shorter but she still gets by, a ride height a couple 40mm or 1 1/2" lower would be spot-on for her, the pillion part of the seat is about the same height as the riders part.

Seats are firm but as said are OK (for me) for a couple of hours without a break but if needed I guess an upholsterer or bike seat specialist for lower/make softer the seat.

[whenu]

The seat height is spot on for me but then I'm 'leggy', Mrs SD is shorter but she still gets by, a ride height a couple 40mm or 1 1/2" lower would be spot-on for her, the pillion part of the seat is about the same height as the riders part.

Seats are firm but as said are OK (for me) for a couple of hours without a break but if needed I guess an upholsterer or bike seat specialist for lower/make softer the seat.

Thanks for the info.