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F5 Dave
26th January 2019, 07:04
It does make you think. I ever knew they used tallow in the production of filthy lucre


https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/110155486/selfappointed-guardian-of-global-hinduism-calls-for-vegan-banknotes


I wonder if there was a way pork could be somehow incorporated as well?

slofox
26th January 2019, 07:28
I usually find I can get more food by swapping the notes for goods. Eating the notes direct just doesn't cut it somehow...they stick in your teeth too.

pete376403
26th January 2019, 09:39
It does make you think. I ever knew they used tallow in the production of filthy lucre

I wonder if there was a way pork could be somehow incorporated as well?

Would putting them into a piggy bank count?

husaberg
26th January 2019, 10:18
It does make you think. I ever knew they used tallow in the production of filthy lucre


https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/money/110155486/selfappointed-guardian-of-global-hinduism-calls-for-vegan-banknotes


I wonder if there was a way pork could be somehow incorporated as well?

They use Gelatin in Wine to filter out the sediment.
Rennet made from calves stomachs obviously is the normal way to make cheese.
There is a flavouring made out of Beaver musk that they use pretty extensively for Vanillia and other flavouring (i am not making that up) Castoreum https://www.huffpost.com/entry/beaver-butt-might-be-in-your-ice-cream-heres-what-you-should-know_n_56f1a037e4b09bf44a9ed259
Casein (a milk protein) was often used in early plastics such as pool balls and is still used as a glue (beerl abels)
Commercial pastry is loaded with lard Tallow.
Worcester sauce has Fish in it. Red hearing?

Google turned up these
Sugar
The refining processes for both white and brown sugar often use bone char, a granular material from animal ashes. It gives sugar its white colour.

Condoms
Traditionally, condom production has included the addition of casein, a protein found in animal milk, which acts as a lubricant. Some brands, like GLYDE, however, have gone vegan.

Red candy
Red cochineal beetles, when dried and crushed, produce a powder called carmine, used as an all-encompassing dye in red foods like candy, ice cream, and yogurt. Though it previously slipped under the radar as “artificial colouring ,” the FDA has required manufacturers to explicitly list carmine on food labels since early 2011.
Edible shellac, also known as confectioner’s glaze, coats most hard, shiny candy, with the notable exception of M&Ms. It’s made from the excretions of female lac bugs (Kerria lacca).

Some orange juice
Many companies now supplement orange juice with Omega-3 fatty acids, found in fish. Such ingredients are broadly defined as “neutraceuticals,” or food-derived additives that are meant to increase consumer health.

Nail polish
Shimmery cosmetics, like nail polish or lipstick, contain guanine (sometimes listed as “pearl essence”), one of the four base components of RNA and DNA. Companies obtain it from fish (notably, herring) scales.

Beer
Guinness contains Isinglass, a chemical found in fish bladders. Isinglass gathers stray yeast cells during the fermenting process and solidifies them into them a mass, which floats to the bottom of the barrel for removal.

Toothpaste
Toothpaste gets its texture from glycerin, although it can come from plants, it is much less expensive and more likely to be taken from extracting the fat from animal bones. Eww!! That’s like brushing your teeth with lard. Since most labels simply state “glycerin” as an ingredient, the only way to know which type is used in a product is to do your research. Not feeling so minty fresh anymore? For vegan-friendly products try Tom’s of Maine.

Shampoo and Conditioner
There are numerous animal products that can be found in shampoo and conditioner. When you read “Panthenol”, “Amino Acids”, or “Vitamin B”, to name a few, it can be animal or plant derived – making it hard to determine. On top of this, there is a new trend of using products containing keratin, which is protein from hooves, horns, and animal hair. It can also be obtained from turtle shells, claws or scales, depending on the strength or hardness desired by the manufacturer. Look for cruelty-free symbols, such as a rabbit, to be certain a product has no animal byproducts

Soap
As you are preparing to go running from the room and wash away the remnants of dead animals clinging to your body, stop and check your soap first. More likely than not, it contains glycerin and casein, both of which derive from animals.

Deodorant
By now you’ve probably already thought about the plastic case that houses the deodorant, but the deodorant itself is made up of more than toxic chemicals. It also contains beeswax, glycerin and perfumes (remember the animal scent sacs). However, there’s no reason to turn into a hippie and walk around all stinky. There are vegan-friendly deodorants available, which are not only cruelty-free, but much safer for humans as well.

Swoop
26th January 2019, 13:29
I usually find I can get more food by swapping the notes for goods. Eating the notes direct just doesn't cut it somehow...they stick in your teeth too.

Far too logical a comment for the mentally challenged. Fucking vegans.:facepalm:

caspernz
26th January 2019, 13:36
By crikey, the things people choose to be offended by :facepalm::shutup::innocent:

Moi
26th January 2019, 14:26
If vegan-ism is so good for you and we went to vegan banknotes, will the local ATM give me more than I ask for, cause it must be good for me?

HenryDorsetCase
26th January 2019, 14:47
I usually find I can get more food by swapping the notes for goods. Eating the notes direct just doesn't cut it somehow...they stick in your teeth too.

because I am insanely wealthy I use a handful of $50's to light my barbecue....

husaberg
26th January 2019, 14:59
because I am insanely wealthy I use a handful of $50's to light my barbecue....
By the sound of it you could use it to grease the hotplate as well as the palm of the maitre d' at the country club
Money has always been used as a sexual lubricant how else would trump get laid

admenk
27th January 2019, 13:05
By crikey, the things people choose to be offended by :facepalm::shutup::innocent:

I'm offended that you're offended :clap:

Laava
27th January 2019, 16:27
because I am insanely wealthy I use a handful of $50's to light my barbecue....
Holy fuck! What do you use to light the $50's?

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 17:18
Catholics.

Swoop
27th January 2019, 18:19
Danish doctor warns: Vegan food may lead to mental retardation


https://voiceofeurope.com/2018/12/danish-doctor-warns-vegan-food-may-lead-to-mental-retardation/?fbclid=IwAR2pVYsrarbSY6VfUYKCp6ekxs-rVsGeL6XtY65-R_6dcCDAklEx--b22I8


No surprise there really.

george formby
27th January 2019, 18:40
They use Gelatin in Wine to filter out the sediment. And Isinglas, like guiness or albumen from iggs.

Worcester sauce has Fish in it. Red hearing? Anchovies.

Google turned up these


Might as well add any plant products grown in a mono culture. To achieve the profitable yields and quality fields are effectively sterilised to remove competition and pests. That's insects, birds, invertebrates and cute little mammals.

I'm a black belt at annoying vegan preachers.

Baileys contains animal products, to emulsify it.

The list is epic. Broach a discussion on the effects of industry which produce vegan products then discuss the actual production of the ingredients and their relative nutritional value, you know, vegan sausages.

husaberg
27th January 2019, 19:06
Might as well add any plant products grown in a mono culture. To achieve the profitable yields and quality fields are effectively sterilised to remove competition and pests. That's insects, birds, invertebrates and cute little mammals.

I'm a black belt at annoying vegan preachers.

Baileys contains animal products, to emulsify it.

The list is epic. Broach a discussion on the effects of industry which produce vegan products then discuss the actual production of the ingredients and their relative nutritional value, you know, vegan sausages.

Who would even think of partaking in Baileys without Milk
i had soya milk once thought for a nano sec this was okay then the bitter aftertaste hit me.
On the plus side legumes like soya makes boobies grow bigger.

george formby
27th January 2019, 19:35
Who would even think of partaking in Baileys without Milk
i had soya milk once thought for a nano sec this was okay then the bitter aftertaste hit me.
On the plus side legumes like soya makes boobies grow bigger.

And sooner. I'm not entirely comfortable with that.

I like Michael Pollan's advice. Don't eat anything your great Grandmother would not recognise.

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 19:39
Grapes are nice.

Fermented of course.

Wife made pasties for dinner. Think they are vegetarian if not vegan.

Aside from the mince I guess but no point arguing semantics.

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 19:44
I don't think this was written by a vegan.


Skin against skin blood and bone
You're all by yourself but you're not alone
You wanted in now you're here
Driven by hate consumed by fear

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

husaberg
27th January 2019, 19:51
And sooner. I'm not entirely comfortable with that.

I like Michael Pollan's advice. Don't eat anything your great Grandmother would not recognise.

If you feed up Sheep on all red clover they all stop cycling, the stuff in Legumes while its not Estrogen the body can't actually tell the difference.
Mrs tell me 8 and 9 years at my kids school are getting periods now.
The earlier they start the earlier menopause will be too.

husaberg
27th January 2019, 19:55
Grapes are nice.

Fermented of course.

Wife made pasties for dinner. Think they are vegetarian if not vegan.

Aside from the mince I guess but no point arguing semantics.

Remember the wine is nearly always filtered through Gelatin otherwise it is full of sediment supposedly, not sure what the vegan stuff uses likely agar or something

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 19:56
Jesus mother fucking Krist that is early. I thought that was just Pacifica kids.

husaberg
27th January 2019, 19:57
Jesus mother fucking Krist that is early. I thought that was just Pacifica kids.

i know i was pretty shocked, Caucasian as well.

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 19:57
Remember the wine is nearly always filtered through Gelatin otherwise it is full of sediment supposedly, not sure what the vegan stuff uses likely agar or something

Dunno fucken tastes nice. Maybe it could be better with bacon.. everything is better with bacon.

husaberg
27th January 2019, 20:09
Dunno fucken tastes nice. Maybe it could be better with bacon.. everything is better with bacon.

That will be the Beef hooves giving it the extra kick.
Had some Peppered Havarti cheese the other day yummy.
Made the Steinlager almost drinkable

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 20:24
Nah that shits not drinkable

husaberg
27th January 2019, 20:53
Nah that shits not drinkable

Mrs brought it for her father but You clearly haven't eaten enough Peppered Havarti Cheese. You eat enough firstand Even Chch's tap water becomes drinkable

i actually prefer a DB Export Citrus or a Monteiths cider.
I have been meaning to make limoncello but the raw ingrediants keep getting drunk first

F5 Dave
27th January 2019, 21:28
Ditch water would be exotic

TheDemonLord
27th January 2019, 22:21
I don't think this was written by a vegan.


Skin against skin blood and bone
You're all by yourself but you're not alone
You wanted in now you're here
Driven by hate consumed by fear

Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor
Let the bodies hit the floor

I remember reading/hearing about a particular Tank in the second Gulf War, where they had jury-rigged a speaker system - apparently that was quite popular to blast out as they were going about....

slofox
28th January 2019, 12:29
Remember the wine is nearly always filtered through Gelatin otherwise it is full of sediment supposedly, not sure what the vegan stuff uses likely agar or something

Actually, gelatin is not the most widely used fining agent in winemaking. Probably egg white or milk products are more common although obviously not vegan. Closest to that would be bentonite which is basically clay.

Swoop
28th January 2019, 12:40
If you feed up Sheep on all red clover they all stop cycling
Hopefully that shit works on the lycra brigade.

husaberg
28th January 2019, 16:04
Actually, gelatin is not the most widely used fining agent in winemaking. Probably egg white or milk products are more common although obviously not vegan. Closest to that would be bentonite which is basically clay.

it would have to be the right clay from the right region otherwise some snooty prick would claim he is able be to tell the difference.
i forgot about the eggs never knew the dairy not surprised though thy use a lot of WPC for stuff they used to use eggs for ie pumping hams to make em stick together and be shiny etc.
To think they used to feed the Whey to pigs now they are using it direct in the hams.
They was a guy i read something on about some dude making the vegan wine about 10 years ago in Martinborough or suchlike I cant remember what he used. i just rememeber being surprised about the whole vegan thing with wine.

EJK
28th January 2019, 17:19
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/110194081/expert-panel-calls-for-tax-on-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet

I wish all people like this (yes, that includes vegans) just gathered up and be sent to the Sun in a giant rocket ship :sunny:

husaberg
28th January 2019, 17:32
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/110194081/expert-panel-calls-for-tax-on-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet

I wish all people like this (yes, that includes vegans) just gathered up and be sent to the Sun in a giant rocket ship :sunny:

off that feed
340635

Runty
28th January 2019, 18:00
Im morally opposed to the consumtion of plants. At least animals have some possibility of escape and even a chance for revenge
Ever heard of a broccoli attaking a farmer and making a break for feeedom?
Fruit and veg are also eaten alive more often than our meatier victims.
Im also opposed to the practice of given flowers to those we care about.
Flowers are a plants sexual organs - so what message are we really sending here?
Is it indicating a desire for sex? Or does it say - "ok biarch, i admit it - you've got ne by the balls"
This Valentines day - show her you care by giving a dozen pigs penises


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Swoop
28th January 2019, 21:05
I wish all people like this (yes, that includes vegans) just gathered up and be sent to the Sun in a giant rocket ship :sunny:

Isn't it odd that the politician's only "solution" to any problem, is to tax something?

Surely global warming is fixed by now, since all those carbon credits must have raised billions...:wacko:

slofox
29th January 2019, 06:06
it would have to be the right clay from the right region otherwise some snooty prick would claim he is able be to tell the difference.
i forgot about the eggs never knew the dairy not surprised though thy use a lot of WPC for stuff they used to use eggs for ie pumping hams to make em stick together and be shiny etc.
To think they used to feed the Whey to pigs now they are using it direct in the hams.
They was a guy i read something on about some dude making the vegan wine about 10 years ago in Martinborough or suchlike I cant remember what he used. i just rememeber being surprised about the whole vegan thing with wine.

I work in a wine shop. We have quite a few vegan friendly wines and several organic as well. The demand is not that high although we need to carry stock to meet what demand there is.

jasonu
29th January 2019, 08:20
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/110194081/expert-panel-calls-for-tax-on-red-meat-to-help-save-the-planet

I wish all people like this (yes, that includes vegans) just gathered up and be sent to the Sun in a giant rocket ship :sunny:

Faggots. Burn the lot of them.

sidecar bob
29th January 2019, 10:33
The origin of cash is very important to vegan Hindu's that don't pay tax on it.

pritch
29th January 2019, 11:03
That old thing about not eating anything your grandma wouldn't recognise is pretty much outdated. Supermarkets didn't exist then so she'd have gone to a butcher, a grocer and maybe a green grocer.

There are large tracts of the supermarket aisles she wouldn't recognise. Kiwis back then didn't eat yoghurt. Salami was something eaten in Italy. Instant mashed potato? WTF she'd make of a whole aisle of bottled water I have no idea. Then there's all the wines. The "new" veg like rocket, kale and fennel. Tacos? Pizza?

The poor old biddy would be completely flummoxed.

rambaldi
29th January 2019, 11:48
That old thing about not eating anything your grandma wouldn't recognise is pretty much outdated. Supermarkets didn't exist then so she'd have gone to a butcher, a grocer and maybe a green grocer.

There are large tracts of the supermarket aisles she wouldn't recognise. Kiwis back then didn't eat yoghurt. Salami was something eaten in Italy. Instant mashed potato? WTF she'd make of a whole aisle of bottled water I have no idea. Then there's all the wines. The "new" veg like rocket, kale and fennel. Tacos? Pizza?

The poor old biddy would be completely flummoxed.

Kale is pretty old. It used to be a poor people food before its wanky resurgence.

Ocean1
29th January 2019, 11:57
That old thing about not eating anything your grandma wouldn't recognise is pretty much outdated. Supermarkets didn't exist then so she'd have gone to a butcher, a grocer and maybe a green grocer.

There are large tracts of the supermarket aisles she wouldn't recognise. Kiwis back then didn't eat yoghurt. Salami was something eaten in Italy. Instant mashed potato? WTF she'd make of a whole aisle of bottled water I have no idea. Then there's all the wines. The "new" veg like rocket, kale and fennel. Tacos? Pizza?

The poor old biddy would be completely flummoxed.

I must admit I'd be OK with a return to packaging materials of her generation.

Yes it's be more expensive, and there'd be more food-born pathogens.

Luckily she could tell us how to deal with that, and it's a small price to pay for killing the exploding use of plastic.

EJK
29th January 2019, 12:48
Isn't it odd that the politician's only "solution" to any problem, is to tax something?

Surely global warming is fixed by now, since all those carbon credits must have raised billions...:wacko:

Yep. United States Environmental Protection Agency are the worst of the lot I think...

husaberg
29th January 2019, 20:03
Kale is pretty old. It used to be a poor people food before its wanky resurgence.

Kales always been more a Cattle food here, funny thing is a know a dutchy that turns up their nose at Kiwis eating Swede, Bloody tulup munchers can be so funny.

slofox
30th January 2019, 06:46
That old thing about not eating anything your grandma wouldn't recognise is pretty much outdated. Supermarkets didn't exist then so she'd have gone to a butcher, a grocer and maybe a green grocer.

There are large tracts of the supermarket aisles she wouldn't recognise. Kiwis back then didn't eat yoghurt. Salami was something eaten in Italy. Instant mashed potato? WTF she'd make of a whole aisle of bottled water I have no idea. Then there's all the wines. The "new" veg like rocket, kale and fennel. Tacos? Pizza?

The poor old biddy would be completely flummoxed.

We'd never heard of broccoli in the 50's either.

russd7
30th January 2019, 17:44
Kales always been more a Cattle food here, funny thing is a know a dutchy that turns up their nose at Kiwis eating Swede, Bloody tulup munchers can be so funny.
swede is absolutely delicious, but only after it has had all the good stuff filtered out and turned in t red meat, other than that it is a tasteless mouth of water :(

husaberg
30th January 2019, 18:38
swede is absolutely delicious, but only after it has had all the good stuff filtered out and turned in t red meat, other than that it is a tasteless mouth of water :(

Bullshit, is just grass with the money taken out:innocent:

granstar
31st January 2019, 05:30
Don't knock it until you have tried it at least once, I did, I was about 7 at the time.

husaberg
31st January 2019, 18:08
Don't knock it until you have tried it at least once, I did, I was about 7 at the time.

I opened my mouth just as one was swinging her tail the other day, Its been years since it happen but i can confirm the modern stuff still tastes like shit.

F5 Dave
5th February 2019, 12:01
OK I've had a softening of heart and can propose a compromise.

How about introduce a new fully or at least mostly Vegan note, say the $173 note with a picture of Paul McCartney or some other suitable Deity.

"Here's you change sir. Twenties be OK?. Oh, you don't want it? Um. . OK. . . I'll donate it to The Little Sisters of Unspeakable Acts. They do a 2-4 price of 1 on Tuesdays.."

russd7
5th February 2019, 21:25
In open my mouth just as one was swinging her tail the other day, Its been years since it happen but i can confim the modern stuff still tastes like shit.

ahhh yes, the good ole days, don't miss em at all