Stupid things Trump has said [Archive]

husaberg

19th February 2019, 19:11

"Look, I expect to be sued. I shouldn't be sued. Very rarely do you get sued when you do national emergency."
When you do national emergency, you don't get sued usually. Everybody knows this about national emergency.

Of course, past the presidents declared a national emergency when there was actual national emergency.;)

"I'm also honored to have the greatest temperament that anybody has." —November 3, 2016

"[Vladimir Putin] is not going into Ukraine, OK, just so you understand. He’s not gonna go into Ukraine, all right? You can mark it down. You can put it down."
—apparently unaware that Russia had already annexed Crimea in a 2014 intrusion into Ukraine that left thousands dead, July 31, 2016

"There has to be some form of punishment…you go back to a position like they had where they would perhaps go to illegal places, but we have to ban it."
—on women who have abortions, MSNBC interview, March 30, 2016

"My entire life, I've watched politicians bragging about how poor they are, how they came from nothing, how poor their parents and grandparents were. And I said to myself, if they can stay so poor for so many generations, maybe this isn't the kind of person we want to be electing to higher office. How smart can they be? They're morons."
—New York Times interview with Maureen Dowd, Nov. 28, 1999

Stylo

19th February 2019, 19:32

Everything Trump says confirms he is nothing but a fucking idiot.

And everything he's said. The President for the stupid people.

husaberg

19th February 2019, 19:36

Everything Trump says confirms he is nothing but a fucking idiot.

And everything he's said. The President for the stupid people.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCtFkpFzwc

Voltaire

19th February 2019, 19:46

Surely the list of sensible things would easier and take less time to list.:killingme

husaberg

19th February 2019, 20:03

Surely the list of sensible things would easier and take less time to list.:killingme

I found one

On Halle Berry

"I love her … upper body." [February 2013]

But i had never seen this dozy
On Princess Diana
Three weeks after her death, Trump was asked if he could have "nailed" Princess Diana:
"I think I could have."

husaberg

22nd February 2019, 20:13

President Donald Trump once said, "Black people are too stupid to vote for me," and suggested that all countries run by blacks are "s---holes," Trump's former lawyer Michael Cohen says in a new interview

On race
"I have a great relationship with African Americans, as you possibly have heard. I just have great respect for them. And they like me. I like them."
Anderson Cooper 360, 23/7/15

On racism
“I’m the least racist person you have ever interviewed.”
14/1/18

husaberg

22nd February 2019, 20:14

"I think I am, actually humble. I think I'm much more humble than you would understand." —"60 Minutes" interview, July 17, 2016

husaberg

22nd February 2019, 20:16

"We like the -- we like the -- it's just a flowing. They do comma. They don't do -- they do a comma."

husaberg

22nd February 2019, 20:25

On John McCain
“He’s not a war hero… He’s a war hero because he was captured. I like people that weren’t captured, OK?” said Trump in 2015.

jasonu

23rd February 2019, 03:33

F5 Dave

23rd February 2019, 07:29

So, are you including America for two terms?

jasonu

23rd February 2019, 08:26

So, are you including America for two terms?

It certainly wasn’t ideal but it is better now. Thanks for asking.
Plus he didn’t actually run the country

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 09:30

But all countries run by blacks are shit holes.

Odd considering that Trump inherited a prosperous economy from Obama.

Imagine if Obama had started with a small loan of a 120 million dollars how far he could have gone.
Only he didnt have any of that and brown black or yellow, hes twice the man or orange old Trump is.
The reneck attitude might explain why everyone hates Simon bridges though. Or maybe hes just a tosser despite his heritage.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:06

On September 11th
"I think I could have stopped it because I have very tough illegal immigration policies, and people aren't coming into this country unless they're vetted and vetted properly."
Hannity, 20/10/15

Laava

23rd February 2019, 10:07

Everybody loves a fun fact...

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:10

On why people would vote for him
"To be blunt, people would vote for me. They just would. Why? Maybe because I'm so good looking."
New York Times, 19/9/99

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:13

On sharing his financial success
"I look very much forward to showing my financials, because they are huge."
TIME, 14/4/11
8 years later still nothing

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:16

On appropriate things to say to hurricane survivors
“What a crowd, what a turnout.”
Texas, 29/8/17

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:17

On breastfeeding mothers
“You’re disgusting.”
New York Times, 28/7/15

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:18

On popularity within the FBI
“I would bet if you took a poll in the FBI I would win that poll by more than anybody’s won a poll.”
Fox & Friends, 15/6/18

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:18

On taking inspiration from other leaders
“[Kim Jong-Un] speaks and his people sit up at attention. I want my people to do the same.”
Fox & Friends, 15/6/18

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:19

On intelligence
“Nobody has better respect for intelligence than Donald Trump.”
CNN, 11/8/17
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unless its about Russian, or you, or your people

sidecar bob

23rd February 2019, 10:21

On why people would vote for him
"To be blunt, people would vote for me. They just would. Why? Maybe because I'm so good looking."
New York Times, 19/9/99

To be fair, he nailed the IQ of the average voter in that one.
NZ is currently suffering from the same stupidity.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:26

To be fair, he nailed the IQ of the average voter in that one.
NZ is currently suffering from the same stupidity.
Trump said
'The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.'

Bt do you think our pm is attactive and the national leaders werent?
Is that why you want crusher to lead the Nats
Ie take looks out of the equation by running shrek.:msn-wink:

Back to Trump
On reality
“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,”
24/7/18

(On exporting goods to China) 'Listen, you m-----f------, we're going to tax you 25 per cent!'

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 10:32

(On Puerto Rico) 'This is an island surrounded by water, big water, ocean water.'

I wonder if he means the caribbean sea or the Atlantic ocean

sidecar bob

23rd February 2019, 16:21

Trump said
'The beauty of me is that I’m very rich.'

Bt do you think our pm is attactive and the national leaders werent?
Is that why you want crusher to lead the Nats
Ie take looks out of the equation by running shrek.:msn-wink:

How someone looks is inconsequential to how well they do their job. Would you choose a tradesperson on looks, or quality of workmanship?
I couldn't give a toss what the leader of our country looks like, as long a they provide quality leadership & well considered policies, and keep their election promises. Clearly I'm in the minority with my views on that.
Regardless of wether CGT is a great idea or not, how do you feel about your girlfriend lying to you to get the job? Don't give me any "well national did so & so" red herrings. I just want to know how you are coping with being lied to by someone you love.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 16:37

How someone looks is inconsequential to how well they do their job. Would you choose a tradesperson on looks, or quality of workmanship?
I couldn't give a toss what the leader of our country looks like, as long a they provide quality leadership & well considered policies, and keep their election promises. Clearly I'm in the minority with my views on that.
Regardless of wether CGT is a great idea or not, how do you feel about your girlfriend lying to you to get the job? Don't give me any "well national did so & so" red herrings. I just want to know how you are coping with being lied to by someone you love.

Really a girlfriend lying about money, That would be a first.:killingme
Leaders need followers, leaders have that X factor or Charisma to attract and keep followers.
Unless you are an idiot its not on looks but what they says resonates with those voters they wish to attract.
As Trump is a buffoon he must be leading leading a troop of Monkeys.
You are just still miffed old Bill English a two time loser and his like minded cronies were unable to relate to the masses.
Simon Bridges has all the charisma off a wet tea toweln so i dont see anything changing.

sidecar bob

23rd February 2019, 16:44

Really a girlfriend lying about money, That would be a first.:killingme
Leaders need followers, leaders have that X factor or Charisma to attract and keep followers.
Unless you are an idiot its not on looks but what they says resonates with those voters they wish to attract.
As Trump is a buffoon he must be leading leading a troop of Monkeys.
You are just still miffed old Bill English a two time loser and his like minded cronies were unable to relate to the masses.
Simon Bridges has all the charisma off a wet tea toweln so i dont see anything changing.

So lots of words, but no answer then?:niceone:
No, I'm actually miffed that these cunts lied through their teeth to get a job.
If a plumber did that he'd be on fair go quick smart.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 16:50

So lots of words, but no answer then?:niceone:
No, I'm actually miffed that these cunts lied through their teeth to get a job.
If a plumber did that he'd be on fair go quick smart.

Well have fours words for you Bob.

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ince taking the reins in 2008, National has introduced at least 18 new taxes and levies – six of them on petrol. Others include:
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• raising GST (after promising not to)
• a tax on employer KiwiSaver contributions
• new student loan and Family Court fees
• the bright line capital gains tax on flipping houses
• a border clearance levy
• including GST on digital purchases
• removing tax refunds for kids doing part-time work.
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https://www.radionz.co.nz/news/political/337723/video-jacinda-ardern-won-t-rule-out-capital-gains-tax
9:45 am on 22 August 2017
Labour leader Jacinda Ardern will not rule out putting in some form of a capital gains tax in its first term if the party is elected to government.

Jacinda ArdernLabour leader Jacinda Ardern: "I am happy to rule out the family home." Photo: RNZ / Claire Eastham-Farrelly
Ms Ardern told Morning Report she would get an advisory group to look at the possibility of a widespread capital gains tax (CGT), but she definitively ruled out taxing the family home.

"I am happy to rule out the family home because that is part of what Labour's values on this have always been, we've consistently said that we do not believe that any future possible CGT would apply to the family home.
"Beyond that, I am leaving it to a group of experts to work through what we need to do more broadly when it comes to our taxation in New Zealand."
'We do want to give that to the experts' - Jacinda Ardern
She said New Zealand ranked poorly when it came to a fair tax system.
"We do not compare well internationally - we're only one of a handful that do not have some sort of taxation in this way. So what we have said is that actually, we did try and do this work from opposition. It is difficult and technical work, and we do want to bring in advisors."
Ms Ardern said it was important to assess whether or not a five-year capital gains tax was appropriate, or if something even wider was needed.
Labour's plans for any changes to the personal tax rate would have to wait until after the government opened its books later this week, she said.

https://youtu.be/hiXbilW0JQQ
1.10s

sidecar bob

23rd February 2019, 16:57

Well have fours words for you Bob.

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Why can't you admit these cunts lied to get the job. If they hadn't lied they wouldn't have got in.
I don't like fucking liars.
They have made the amateur mistake of over promising & under delivering.
Not answering the question just makes you look gullible & a bit of a helmet.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 17:08

Why can't you admit these cunts lied to get the job. If they hadn't lied they wouldn't have got in.
I don't like fucking liars.
They have made the amateur mistake of over promising & under delivering.
Not answering the question just makes you look gullible & a bit of a helmet.

Beg your pardon 1.10sec makes you not really that well informed.
The 18 new taxs National brought in makes you sound a little hypocritical
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pritch

23rd February 2019, 17:15

Why can't you admit these cunts lied to get the job.

Politicians lie, that's a given. All of them. John Key dissembled and obfuscated continually.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 17:49

"Now I must say. I know many of the Democrats. They'll say things and then wink at me."
Wink at you Don?

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 17:52

"Elton John said when you hit that last tune and it's good, don't go back."
Are youi sure Don,
"Showmanship, George. When you hit that high note, you say goodnight and walk off." -- Jerry Seinfeld

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 17:54

"This is beyond Supreme Court."
In he USA nothing is beyond the Supreme Court Don, Nothing

jasonu

23rd February 2019, 19:16

"This is beyond Supreme Court."
In he USA nothing is beyond the Supreme Court Don, Nothing

Have you even been to the USA?

F5 Dave

23rd February 2019, 19:19

To be fair, Bill English won the election fairly convincingly . It took two to beat him. I didn't vote for him but facts are facts.

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 19:22

Have you even been to the USA?

So Whats beyond the supreme court then?
No andI haven't had a full body cavity search either.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMOxj8w0K-c
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x0IPCRaDrV8
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1MwN5nDajWs
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To be fair, Bill English won the election fairly convincingly . It took two to beat him. I didn't vote for him but facts are facts.
Facts are Facts He couldn't govern without a coalition party either.
He simply couldn't Get the coalition partners he needed.

F5 Dave

23rd February 2019, 20:20

So it was our glorious leader who chose the government, not the toothfairy.

Come the glorious day, come the glorious day. :bleh:

husaberg

23rd February 2019, 20:22

So it was our glorious leader who chose the government, not the toothfairy.

Come the glorious day, come the glorious day. :bleh:

Yip think hes done it twice now.
If English had have been a better negoiciator he could have been forgetting more text messages and selling off assets now.

sidecar bob

23rd February 2019, 20:28

Yip think hes done it twice now.
If English had have been a better negoiciator he could have been forgetting more text messages and selling off assets now.

He wasn't prepared to take it up the arse from Winnie, whereas the tooth fairy said, you can pop it in dry if it's going to make it look like I'm the PM.

F5 Dave

23rd February 2019, 20:28

Say you won't leave me no more
I'll take you back again No more excuses no, no 'Cause I've heard them all before
A hundred times or moreI'll forgive and forget If you say you'll never go
'Cause its true what they say
It's better the devil you knowWoh woh woh
Our love wasn't perfect I know
I think I know the score If you say you love me, oh boy
I can't ask for more I'll come if you should callI'll be here every day
Waiting for your love to show
Yes it's true what they say
It's better the devil you know

Berries

23rd February 2019, 23:49

That doesn't even fucking rhyme.

It doesn't matter who you vote for, you will always end up with a politician in charge. I don't know whether anyone has realised, but they aren't in it for the rest of us. At least Trump is open about the fact he does not give a shit about anything apart from looking good. I would say what an arsehole, but really it is the goofy fucktards who voted for him.

What an arsehole.

jasonu

24th February 2019, 03:26

So Whats beyond the supreme court then?
No andI haven't had a full body cavity search either.

.

So that's a big fat no and about what I thought.
You should get out and see a bit of the big wide world then try to make decisions and form opinions not solely based on crap from the internet.

husaberg

24th February 2019, 10:19

So that's a big fat no and about what I thought.
You should get out and see a bit of the big wide world then try to make decisions and form opinions not solely based on crap from the internet.

Jason what he says is not just on the internet, its in the papers, on TV.
All arround the world people see what he says and make fun of it.
Even you said the only reason you voted for him was a protest vote against Hillary.
Your leader ie is the laughing stock of the whole world.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yhc5WwLqhSU

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYsZv9JXmio

President Trump is afraid of being questioned by the media.
That's why he holds so few press conferences.

sidecar bob

24th February 2019, 10:26

Dude what he says is not just on the internet, its in the papers, on TV.
All arround the world people see what he says and make fun of it.
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I think old mate Jason is actually making fun of you for commentating on a country you have never visited.
However one should never let ignorance get in the way of ones views :facepalm:

husaberg

24th February 2019, 10:43

I think old mate Jason is actually making fun of you for commentating on a country you have never visited.
However one should never let ignorance get in the way of ones views :facepalm:

Odd both you and Jason often make fun of brown people yet have never been one?
You coment on the NZ goverment but neither have been or are part of one.
As i have said i have never had a full body cavity search doesn't make me unqualified, to decide that, i dont want to have one.
I am making fun of Trump and what he says i have never met him or voted for him.
but i can still see the stupid things he says and make fun of them.
Notice Jason doesn't actually say. No trump didn't say that, or its not stupid that Trump did say that.
That's because even the most ardent Trump supporter, cant defend that crap trump says.
Fox news actually edited out the laughter at Trump at the UN speech.
Jason and i agree on a lot of stuff, as do we Bob, but answer me this is
Do you consider Trump to be a great US president, a great public speaker, an astute politician?
Do you consider any of the stuff i have posted that was said by Trump was actually smart?

Have you ever watched a Sarah Huckabee Sanders press Briefing?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5Bkuklx4PV4
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6Abxu62YpM
Sean Spicer was even funnier.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wyaa5KpEFT8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARxty_36JA8

husaberg

24th February 2019, 11:20

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=35aT9ikWcqc

husaberg

24th February 2019, 11:26

"The Wall will stop the drugs"
Yeah Don yeah.

Since 1990, U.S. officials have discovered at least 230 tunnels, most of them running from Mexico into California and Arizona. It's believed smugglers have spent hundreds of thousands of dollars to build the more sophisticated ones with ventilation and lighting.
Customs and Border Protection statistics show that 4,813 pounds (2,180 kilograms) of heroin were confiscated at official crossings in the 11-month period ending August 31. The Border Patrol, which patrols the vast areas between the crossings, seized 532 pounds (241 kilograms) of heroin in the same 11 months
Statistics suggest more bulkier marijuana shipments are smuggled between ports of entry than at them. The Border Patrol seized nearly 440,000 pounds (200,000 kilograms) of pot between crossings during the 11 months, compared with 280,000 pounds (127,000 kilograms) confiscated at crossings.

pritch

26th February 2019, 15:03

husaberg

26th February 2019, 15:11

Here's a very recent one. Although it's possible someone here might believe it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqVs8nGbs38

When talking to the nation's governors recently he mentioned China and then did this.
What the Chinese made of it who knows.

He said this to though

https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-us-canada-45664690/donald-trump-says-china-respects-his-very-large-brain
China respects his very large Brain

Or this one he has made repeadidly
“Billions of Dollars are being paid to the United States by China in the form of Trade Tariffs!”

“Those tariffs are costing them a lot of money, and they’re going into our Treasury; remember that, we’re filling up with billions of dollars.”

Wrong Don the tariffs are paid by the importers of the goods ie U.S. companies, who in turn pass on most or all of the costs to consumers or producers who may use Chinese materials in their products.Not the exporters.

husaberg

26th February 2019, 20:27

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMXRHjfMGq8

F5 Dave

27th February 2019, 06:26

Hahaha, Sweet Jesus that was funny; Obama caused the racial divide. :facepalm: oh. So segregation, effectively American apartheid, didn't set the tone.

TheDemonLord

27th February 2019, 07:34

Hahaha, Sweet Jesus that was funny; Obama caused the racial divide. :facepalm: oh. So segregation, effectively American apartheid, didn't set the tone.

The context in that statement is that before Obama, there wasn't the same degree of division that we are seeing today.

When people insist that you focus on Race, people start to notice racial differences.

pritch

27th February 2019, 07:50

I wanted to find a clip of the youngish guy in the red hat and black tee and it's in here but along with a lot of others. People who wonder why Trump supporters are considered stupid need look no further.

My favourite passage is where the guy criticizes Obama for having holidays and playing golf all the time (he hadn't seen nothin' yet) and he'd really like to get to the bottom of why Obama was not in the Oval Office on 911. Amazing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFQhw3VVToQ

F5 Dave

27th February 2019, 11:55

Well that's eeasy. His mussuelium mates phoned him in advanse and told him not to be preaseadent that day.

husaberg

27th February 2019, 14:33

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=suO88eRRB98

husaberg

2nd March 2019, 16:25

"The state of California is begging us to build walls in certain areas. They don’t tell you that."
Tuesday, March 13th, 2018
The state of California is suing to stop the wall.

"I never said Russia did not meddle in the election."
Monday, February 19th, 2018
Oh yes you sure did say exactly that

"This Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story. It's an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should've won."
Friday, May 12th, 2017
Made up by the FBI?

There was "serious voter fraud" in Virginia.
Tuesday, November 29th, 2016
There is no evidence to support this

There was "serious voter fraud" in New Hampshire.
Monday, November 28th, 2016
zero evidence to support this this election

There was "serious voter fraud" in California.
Monday, November 28th, 2016
Zero evidence exists to support this one either.

"The reason Russia was in Afghanistan was because terrorists were going into Russia."
Wednesday, January 9th, 2019

Says troops recently received "one of the biggest pay raises" ever, and that it was the first pay increase in "more than 10 years."
Thursday, December 27th, 2018
Not biggest ever; not first in 10 years either.

"Democrats let him (cop killer Luis Bracamontes) into our country," and "Democrats let him stay."
Thursday, November 1st, 2018
His last illegal entry was under a Republican Pres.

a recent opioid bill that reached his desk had "very little Democrat support."
October 24th, 2018
Virtually everyone in both parties voted for it.

In California, "they're rioting now" over sanctuary cities.
October 23rd, 2018
Not riots in California or Sweden:facepalm:

Democrats "want to give (undocumented immigrants) cars."
October 22nd, 2018
Pure fantasy

"For years, they have not been able to get tax cuts -- many, many years, since Reagan."
Thursday, November 30th, 2017.
There has been nine rather large ones since Reagan.

Ending the estate tax would "protect millions of small businesses and the American farmer."
Thursday, September 28th, 2017
Actually only 80 this past year

Amazon has a "no-tax monopoly."
Wednesday, July 26th, 2017
This has no basis in facts

pritch

3rd March 2019, 21:08

Voter fraud has now been proven to have taken place in North Carolina, charges have been laid. Republican voter fraud that is. Trump is strangely quiet.

https://nypost.com/2019/02/27/gop-operative-charged-over-ballot-fraud-in-north-carolina/amp/

Laava

3rd March 2019, 21:52

pete376403

4th March 2019, 06:56

Not voter fraud, election fraud. The voters did nothing wrong. There is a video of Mitch McConnell blaming the Democrats for this event happening.

pritch

4th March 2019, 08:46

Not voter fraud, election fraud. The voters did nothing wrong. There is a video of Mitch McConnell blaming the Democrats fodidn't have an option.r this event happening.

Interesting when the son gave evidence against his father. His father, the Republican candidate, had said he was unaware the guy he was hiring was crooked, the son gave evidence that he had told his father the guy's history.

Being a government lawyer the son would be in deep shit if he was caught lying so he really didn't have an option.

pritch

7th March 2019, 11:48

A new clip of the orange imbecile is doing the rounds. When speaking to Tim Cook CEO of Apple he said, “We appreciate it very much Tim Apple.”

Close but no prize.

husaberg

7th March 2019, 17:11

A new clip of the orange imbecile is doing the rounds. When speaking to Tim Cook CEO of Apple he said, “We appreciate it very much Tim Apple.”

Close but no prize.

Have you heard him ranting about Amazon.
Must be some feud going on.
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Alo explains why he goes on about the Washington post as the same guy owns that lol
You have to laugh at the total hypocrisy of the rant about amzons tax when he refuses to release his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7c0F5STvg

jasonu

10th March 2019, 12:25

Have you heard him ranting about Amazon.
Must be some feud going on.
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Alo explains why he goes on about the Washington post as the same guy owns that lol
You have to laugh at the total hypocrisy of the rant about amzons tax when he refuses to release his.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o-7c0F5STvg

Don't you have anything else to do?

husaberg

10th March 2019, 13:57

Don't you have anything else to do?

Nah. Our politics are dead boring compared to yours.
What gives on Trump and amazon and the Washington Post.
I can almost understand why he might be scared of the paper that brought us Watergate and in doing so brought down Nixon.
But whats his beef with Amazon? If hes all about business why is he trying to bring down the US biggest business with almost 1 million employees?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKFIHRpe7I

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_WS0YoYCjRg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yo22OmSBBXQ

jasonu

10th March 2019, 15:40

Nah. Our politics are dead boring compared to yours.
What gives on Trump and amazon and the Washington Post.
I can almost understand why he might be scared of the paper that brought us Watergate and in doing so brought down Nixon.
But whats his beef with Amazon? If hes all about business why is he trying to bring down the US biggest business with almost 1 million employees?

No idea mate. I gave up watching the news a year ago.

husaberg

10th March 2019, 15:50

No idea mate. I gave up watching the news a year ago.

It seems very unrepublician
Its not a news beat up though its direct from Trump.
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/624/cpsprodpb/95B9/production/_91492383_trump5.jpghttp://totalwealthresearch.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/12/Trump-Tweet-4.jpg?ffafaehttps://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZdO2eJVMAANLV7.jpghttps://4.bp.blogspot.com/-5oMURtHe-BQ/W1ntpv6ANOI/AAAAAAAAmUU/nuN59ki11U0SBUIiYrn8UdAN6_MV8GNUgCLcBGAs/s1600/Trump%2BPost%2BOffice%2BTweets%2B3.png

pritch

11th March 2019, 12:45

OK, you got there. Bezos bought the Washington Post which has said some unkind things about Trump. Not untrue, Trump just didn't like them. So he has used his position as president to try and raise the postal rates on Amazon packages. If any other president had done that there would have been an uproar. For this corrupt arsehole though, it's just another day at the office.

Bezos' wife will do more damage to him than Trump ever could, now that she's divorcing him.

The current Trump news item concerns a brothel owner, Cindy Yang, who spends time at Mar a Largo and other Trump properties and who is apparently also suspected of human trafficking. There are photos of her with all the Trump males, senators, congressmen and Fox News "personalities", etc. Some of them really did not like these pictures published. On the other hand I loved it.

Turns out she's been selling Chinese business men access to Trump as well. Can you imagine any other president being involved in low grade crap like this?

husaberg

11th March 2019, 20:14

Turns out she's been selling Chinese business men access to Trump as well. Can you imagine any other president being involved in low grade crap like this?

Bush JR.
The NZ National party.
Bezos likely has a iron clad Pre nup, likly so does Trump now after his first wife accused him of rape during the divorce.

With Amazon its not even as if what trump was saying about the US postal service losing money on delivering the parcels was true.

pritch

13th March 2019, 15:01

The NZ National party.

At least Crusher is married to the bloke.

It seems now that "Cindy" Yang has Chinese government connections too. This story could develop except that three Trump henchmen are up for sentencing this week and that is likely to take the attention of the press.

jasonu

13th March 2019, 16:11

and that is likely to take the attention of the press.

and stupid cunts like you will lap it up

husaberg

13th March 2019, 16:54

At least Crusher is married to the bloke.

It seems now that "Cindy" Yang has Chinese government connections too. This story could develop except that three Trump henchmen are up for sentencing this week and that is likely to take the attention of the press.
From what i remember with the whole Chinese business thing crusha was pushing her hubby needed the deer velvet for "medicinal" purposes
https://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512
The thing is if two Chinese Mps are worth more than two Indian Mp'swhat is one Chinese worth married to the National parties front running preferred PM.
I forgot Morice williamson had to resign for interfering with a Chinease businessman getting charged.

Maurice Williamson was forced to resign for interfering in a police case involving wealthy Chinese businessman Dongua Liu.

and stupid cunts like you will lap it up

Yeah we will get Swoop and oldie and katflsp on to it.

pete376403

13th March 2019, 22:16

From what i remember with the whole Chinese business thing crusha was pushing her hubby needed the deer velvet for "medicinal" purposes
https://www.newshub.co.nz/politics/timeline-judith-collins-and-oravida-2014050512
The thing is if two Chinese Mps are worth more than two Indian Mp'swhat is one Chinese worth married to the National parties front running preferred PM.
I forgot Morice williamson had to resign for interfering with a Chinease businessman getting charged.
Collins husband was also involved in the swamp kauri export business, where the regs said only finished products could be exported so a few chainsaw gashes were touted to be carvings, and slabs were described as table tops.

pritch

14th March 2019, 08:45

Husaberg, please don't quote Jason. I have him on ignore, but if you quote him I get to see his idiot ravings.

husaberg

14th March 2019, 09:59

Collins husband was also involved in the swamp kauri export business, where the regs said only finished products could be exported so a few chainsaw gashes were touted to be carvings, and slabs were described as table tops.

Swamp donkey is how i think of Jude or as Shrek.

husaberg

14th March 2019, 10:02

Husaberg, please don't quote Jason. I have him on ignore, but if you quote him I get to see his idiot ravings.

Jason is okay, hes just became a redneck American. Its all that corn syrup and cheese they force feed them.

Grumph

14th March 2019, 10:37

Jason is okay, hes just became a redneck American. Its all that corn syrup and cheese they force feed them.

You forgot the hormones in the chicken and beef...

I was surprised to see Trump announcing the grounding of the Boeings.
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the planes, that should have come from his officials.
Either it's another case of his not believing his experts - or he wants to look like the strong leader. Putin would have announced it personally - so Trump does it that way.

F5 Dave

14th March 2019, 19:57

It's only a software fault. It applies the brakes slinging the rider over the handlebars.

Boeing reused some code from Lime scroaters.

husaberg

14th March 2019, 20:00

It's only a software fault. It applies the brakes slinging the rider over the handlebars.

Boeing reused some code from Lime scroaters.

Kind of odd it was Trump who announced it
Especially considering his campaign cheif was sentenced today.
best part is as some of the charges ones Trump cant pardon him for.

Oh look Trump has a history with Boeing
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Donald Trump’s words do not only cause a storm on social media, they also affect capital markets.
The President-elect’s latest feud is with Boeing, the major US manufacturer of airplanes. In a tweet, he said that the costs for the company’s new Air Force One government plane were “out of control” at $4bn and the government contract should be cancelled
The tweet was sent shortly after the Chicago Tribune posted a story that showed the company's CEO expressing doubt over Mr Trump's plans on international trade.
Before the president-elect's tweet, the company was trading at $152.16 per share. After the tweet, it fell close to 1 per cent during pre-market trading on Tuesday to $149.75 per share,

Voltaire

14th March 2019, 20:14

Probably find the 'Trump Trust' sells prior to tweet and buys back post tweet.

husaberg

14th March 2019, 20:29

Probably find the 'Trump Trust' sells prior to tweet and buys back post tweet.

Who knows Trump still cant find any of his tax returns.
His current defense secretary was an EX boeing Senior exec for 30 years.

pritch

14th March 2019, 21:01

I was surprised to see Trump announcing the grounding of the Boeings.
Whatever the rights or wrongs of the planes, that should have come from his officials.

There is an acting head of the FAA only. Lardarse has never got around to filling the top position. Time is limited when you don’t get up before lunch...

husaberg

14th March 2019, 21:52

There is an acting head of the FAA only. Lardarse has never got around to filling the top position. Time is limited when you don’t get up before lunch...

Just like you know who did on D day.

Grumph

15th March 2019, 05:49

Probably find the 'Trump Trust' sells prior to tweet and buys back post tweet.

You may be right - but there isn't a Trust. He's never separated his business from his current job. Allegedly, Kushner and Junior are running the business but the Donald still has oversight. Kushner in particular wears two hats when dealing with the Saudis - and what suits Trump becomes US policy there.
There's never been a US President so obviously making money from the job.

husaberg

18th March 2019, 19:55

Trump defeated twice in a row in a Republican controlled senate on his emergency wall funding.
Says a lot when even his own party votes against him.

In a stunning rebuke, the Republican-controlled Senate has voted to terminate President Donald Trump's declaration of a national emergency at the US-Mexico border.
The disapproval resolution passed the House last month, so the 59-41 Senate vote will send the measure to the Trump's desk.

husaberg

27th March 2019, 11:47

The Muller reports exonerates Me.

Investigations by the FBI and Special Counsel Robert Mueller resulted in indictments of Russian agents on charges of developing and exploiting ties with the NRA to influence US politics. The deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia, Aleksandr Torshin, is suspected of illegally funneling money through the NRA to benefit Trump's 2016 campaign. In May 2018, Democrats on the Senate Judiciary Committee released a report stating it had obtained "a number of documents that suggest the Kremlin used the National Rifle Association as a means of accessing and assisting Mr. Trump and his campaign" through Torshin and his assistant Maria Butina, and that "The Kremlin may also have used the NRA to secretly fund Mr. Trump's campaign. Torshin, a lifetime NRA member who is close to Russian President Vladimir Putin, has been implicated in money laundering by Spanish authorities who have characterized him as a "godfather" in Taganskaya, a major Russian criminal organization.

Butina was arrested on July 15, 2018 and charged with conspiring to act as an unregistered agent of the Russian Federation and using Republican operative Paul Erickson for cover and connections as she developed an influence operation designed to "advance the interests of the Russian Federation." The FBI acquired an email Erickson had sent to an acquaintance in 2016 stating, "Unrelated to specific presidential campaigns, I've been involved in securing a VERY private line of communication between the Kremlin and key [GOP] leaders through, of all conduits, the [NRA]." According to the affidavit, from 2015 through at least February 2017, Butina worked at the direction of Russian who was a high level government official and official at the Russian Central Bank.In December, Butina agreed in a plea deal to cooperate with federal prosecutors.

In a 2018, in a letter sent to Sen. Ron Wyden and addressed to Congress, the NRA acknowledged it had accepted a contributions from 23 Russian nationals

But Mueller found that there was conclusive evidence that Russia did interfere in the election, both through a coordinated campaign of disinformation and by hacking emails from Hillary Clinton’s election team.
In a letter to lawmakers, Barr said that Mueller found that there had been “multiple offers from Russian-affiliated individuals to assist the Trump campaign.”

WEDNESDAY, PRESIDENT Donald Trump appeared to downplay Russia’s efforts to interfere with US democracy for a third time this week.
The first had come during a joint press conference with Russian president Vladimir Putin in Helsinki, a 45-minute exercise in kowtowing to a hostile foreign leader. The second, remarkably, came during the “clarification” of those remarks; on the heels of reading a prepared comment acknowledging Russia’s actions in 2016, Trump improvised, stating that it “could be other people also. There’s a lot of people out there.”
And then came Wednesday, when a reporter asked Trump before a Cabinet meeting if Russia is still targeting the US. The correct answer, according to repeated warnings from US intelligence officials, is absolutely. Trump said no.
Later in the day, press secretary Sarah Sanders framed the answer differently, suggesting that Trump in fact meant “no more questions.” Given the broader context of his almost pathological resistance to admitting that Russia meddled in the 2016 election, that explanation seems wanting. And even if it’s a correct interpretation, Trump still declined an opportunity to assertively back up the intelligence community he has repeatedly spurned.
"It’s an unprecedented time in our nation’s history."
Trump’s denials of Russian interference go back more than two years, and have been largely nd have been largely steadfast despite overwhelming evidence to the contrary. (It was only after the Putin press conference backlash that he squarely blamed Russia, both in his prepared remarks Tuesday and in an interview with CBS that aired Wednesday night).
Meanwhile, every relevant US intelligence agency has said that Russia did interfere and continues to. On Friday, director of national intelligence Dan Coats told a gathering at the Hudson Institute think tank that the “warning lights are blinking red again” regarding Russian cyberactivity, invoking pre-9/11 levels of concern. And at this very moment, alleged Russian spy Maria Butina sits in a jail cell awaiting trial.
And a New York Times story late Wednesday night made clear that US intelligence leaders explicitly told Trump that Russia—at Putin's command—had interfered throughout the 2016 election, and showed him irrefutable supporting evidence. He has known this whole time.
All of which is to say that there is no gray area here, other than that which Trump himself creates. And that’s the first problem.

jasonu

27th March 2019, 12:58

The Muller reports exonerates Me.

You forgot the part about no new indictments.

husaberg

27th March 2019, 16:02

You forgot the part about no new indictments.

Wasnt theree enough from Trumps crew for you including his own lawyer.

jasonu

28th March 2019, 02:25

Wasnt theree enough from Trumps crew for you including his own lawyer.

Those 3 were cannon fodder.
It was Democrat party witch hunt meant to somehow get rid of Trump. It failed to do so. It was a failure and a total waste of money.

pritch

28th March 2019, 08:03

Those 3 were cannon fodder.
It was Democrat party witch hunt meant to somehow get rid of Trump. It failed to do so. It was a failure and a total waste of money.

Bugger! I accidently read this. It seems that jason isn't getting any smarter.

Thirty some indictments, that's a lot of witches.

One thing you can't accuse the inquiry of is being a waste of money. Thanks to Manafort the Mueller inquiry actually made a profit.

jasonu

28th March 2019, 10:05

Bugger! I accidently read this. It seems that jason isn't getting any smarter.

Thirty some indictments, that's a lot of witches.

One thing you can't accuse the inquiry of is being a waste of money. Thanks to Manafort the Mueller inquiry actually made a profit.

Nope. The aim was to oust trump. It failed.

husaberg

28th March 2019, 15:41

Nope. The aim was to oust trump. It failed.

Pretty sure it wasnt it was about plenty of stuff.
Odd that trump never wanted to appear considering how innocent he is.
PS how is he getting on with his Tax records still hasnt realeased them yet aye.
It also turned up trump breaching the campain rules by pauying off Storny D cups and not declaring it or did wee forget that one?
You remember when he paid by personal cheque to shut her up and shut down the story while he was campaigning

jasonu

28th March 2019, 16:13

Pretty sure it wasnt it was about plenty of stuff.
Odd that trump never wanted to appear considering how innocent he is.
Of course he didn't. He has shit to hide. They all do.

PS how is he getting on with his Tax records still hasnt realeased them yet aye.
No one but you and Prick cares anymore.

It also turned up trump breaching the campain rules by pauying off Storny D cups and not declaring it or did wee forget that one?
No one gives a fuck. That hasn't been mentioned for 6 months.

You remember when he paid by personal cheque to shut her up and shut down the story while he was campaigning
Again, old failed news. No one gives a fuck.

Build the wall!!!

husaberg

28th March 2019, 16:44

Build the wall!!!

Yeah great thats what America needs walls, they are great, they will stop everything.
just like in WW2 when the French built one of later on when the Germans did the same.
Walls are what has made america great, Trump is great. So lets build a wall out of him and his tiny hands.

F5 Dave

29th March 2019, 05:52

The French Maginot line is one of my favourite pointless exercises. The German say, hmm, that looks fairly formidable. Let's just pop around the side. . .

pritch

29th March 2019, 06:59

husaberg

29th March 2019, 10:12

The French Maginot line is one of my favourite pointless exercises. The German say, hmm, that looks fairly formidable. Let's just pop around the side. . .

There is a saying, "Generals are always preparing for the last war". Thus the Maginot Line. During the 'phony war' period early in WW2 the Brits were busy preparing for trench warfare. Hitler had other plans.

The problem with walls is they lure the owners onto a false sense of security that no one can get through them.
but under, over, through or arround they are weak, they are like a locked door in that they dont prevent stuff getting stolen, they only keep the honest ones out.

HenryDorsetCase

29th March 2019, 10:49

Build the wall!!!

seriously? I think you might just be trolling us wet liberals Jason.

HenryDorsetCase

29th March 2019, 10:50

There is a saying, "Generals are always preparing for the last war". Thus the Maginot Line. During the 'phony war' period early in WW2 the Brits were busy preparing for trench warfare. Hitler had other plans.

ze Blitzkreig! Jawohl englander pigdog!

TheDemonLord

29th March 2019, 10:58

HenryDorsetCase

29th March 2019, 11:56

Didn't one of the 'reporters' get a hold of one of the God Emperors Tax returns, and funnily enough, it showed he payed more in Tax than say Barrack Obama or Bernie Sanders....

Perhaps we need a thread 'Stupid things Reporters have said about Trump'

So, here's a thing. Regardless of anyone's personal opinion about 45 (and I do have one) the major point is that Trump supporters and Trump haters don't listen to one another - they don't talk to one another either. And each side is so entrenched in its own camp, with its own compliant media outlets that create and reinforce the echo chamber which deepens their position - so the schism deepens and widens and nothing gets done. American politics is completely fucked - its how you get manifestly self interested and unqualified people elected, and its why America is fucked as well.

The root cause of all of that? Money.

Let me digress by saying that the single most interesting course I did at University back in the day (late 80's early 90's) was POLS205: American Politics. And the first thing the lecturer said to us is that you should not think of "who" rules america, but "what" rules america. And what rules america is money. Who has the money? Large corporations and the people who control them. It takes a lot of money to engage in the political process in America and most of that money is sourced from the corporates. And they demand their quid pro quo.. Any "ordinary" person wearing an Obama badge, or a MAGA hat is basically a spectator. They're like fans at a football match. Tribal as fuck, but with zero ability to influence the game on the pitch. Taking that analogy a step further, the people who win the game usually aren't the players... its the coaches and managers and owners - who bring money to bear. And money rules everything.

Which is why campaign finance reform is the single most necessary thing to restore America towards being a functional democracy*. But it will never happen because the big interest groups* will never allow it.

And its not just the Republicans - the Democrats too (look up the Chicago machine).

*and you may infer (correctly) that my opinion is that it isn't a functional democracy at present.

F5 Dave

29th March 2019, 12:24

ze Blitzkreig! Jawohl englander pigdog!

Combat Comics huh?

TheDemonLord

29th March 2019, 12:25

So, here's a thing. Regardless of anyone's personal opinion about 45 (and I do have one) the major point is that Trump supporters and Trump haters don't listen to one another - they don't talk to one another either. And each side is so entrenched in its own camp, with its own compliant media outlets that create and reinforce the echo chamber which deepens their position - so the schism deepens and widens and nothing gets done. American politics is completely fucked - its how you get manifestly self interested and unqualified people elected, and its why America is fucked as well.

The root cause of all of that? Money.

Let me digress by saying that the single most interesting course I did at University back in the day (late 80's early 90's) was POLS205: American Politics. And the first thing the lecturer said to us is that you should not think of "who" rules america, but "what" rules america. And what rules america is money. Who has the money? Large corporations and the people who control them. It takes a lot of money to engage in the political process in America and most of that money is sourced from the corporates. And they demand their quid pro quo.. Any "ordinary" person wearing an Obama badge, or a MAGA hat is basically a spectator. They're like fans at a football match. Tribal as fuck, but with zero ability to influence the game on the pitch. Taking that analogy a step further, the people who win the game usually aren't the players... its the coaches and managers and owners - who bring money to bear. And money rules everything.

Which is why campaign finance reform is the single most necessary thing to restore America towards being a functional democracy*. But it will never happen because the big interest groups* will never allow it.

And its not just the Republicans - the Democrats too (look up the Chicago machine).

*and you may infer (correctly) that my opinion is that it isn't a functional democracy at present.

Interesting points, I don't entirely disagree with you about the Money issue either. The line between 'Bribe' and 'Campaign donation' has always seemed rather hazy.

However, there are other points to consider:

Career Politicians - People who have never 'lived' in the real world, who are themselves existing in an Echo-Chamber of sorts, often larger inner-cities, affluent areas, with views divergent from the populace - a classic example atm is the House of Commons being pro-Remain, whereas the UK as a whole being Pro-Leave.

The influence of Left and far-left ideology over University, Academia, the Teaching profession, Social Media etc. Things such as the theory of intersectionality, Identity politics, Political Correctness etc. These are things that have infiltrated our culture, things that often promulgated by a select few, opposed by the masses, but forced upon us anyway.

The degradation of Journalism - It seems less about delivering the news, more about provoking a reaction. And if you have to edit, omit or outright lie to get a reaction, that seems to be par for the course. and hastens the decline

Trump is more a reaction, than a symptom. There are things I don't like about Trump, however - my main issue is that there is a definitive kabal of groups who are so fundamentally opposed to him, that they can't portray him fairly - the eponymous 'fake news' - and to be honest, seeing them throw their toys out of the proverbial because they can't get their own way is immensely satisfying. Almost like some form of Karma for acting like petulant children in the first place.

As an example - the Democrats in the US have still not done the required soul searching to understand why they lost. It's that self-delusion of righteousness that irritates people who would otherwise support the Democrats, coupled with Utterances that sound like re-hashed Socialist/Communist talking points (and some of us either remember or have read how well that turned out) and you have the recipe that you describe - 2 tribal camps praying for war.

The solution is not Money, or at least, not all Money - but I think a leaf should be taken from Tony Blair's landslide victory in the UK under New Labour - the exorcism of the Socialist Left that had existed in the Labour Party. It's something virtually no left wing party has done since, in manner cases - they've done the opposite.

F5 Dave

29th March 2019, 12:25

jasonu

29th March 2019, 12:29

Combat Comics huh?

Hogans heros.

HenryDorsetCase

29th March 2019, 13:40

Combat Comics huh?

Commando! comics. I've loved WW2 stuff ever since. Plus I enjoy history and I think that WW2 is pretty much the defining point for humanity... until we achieve warp drive and move out into the galaxy.

husaberg

29th March 2019, 13:46

Viking01

29th March 2019, 15:49

https://southfront.org/eric-zuesse-how-americas-dictatorship-works/

F5 Dave

29th March 2019, 17:12

I agree with a lot of it but the problem of money in politics is not the real issue the issue is some actually think its okay.

What trump has been allowed to get away with in regards to his blatant interference and utter crap he talks is heinous. It’s a damming indictment on all that is wrong with the world and the cult of celebrity.
It is the problem as far as watering down democracy. One vote equals less than the money that can be earned as you can just use that money to capture more votes

husaberg

29th March 2019, 17:39

It is the problem as far as watering down democracy. One vote equals less than the money that can be earned as you can just use that money to capture more votes

I just can’t see how anyone’s intellect can be that lacking not to notice and actually challenge, take the seconds to even check the stuff Trump clearly lies about. Then think to themselves why trust him to run a country if he can’t even tell basic simple truths.
There is simple spin and there is media bias on both sides but there is also what trump does.
Donald trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.

TheDemonLord

29th March 2019, 18:12

I just can’t see how anyone’s intellect can be that lacking not to notice and actually challenge, take the seconds to even check the stuff Trump clearly lies about. Then think to themselves why trust him to run a country if he can’t even tell basic simple truths.
There is simple spin and there is media bias on both sides but there is also what trump does.
Donald trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.

Because people with Intellect compare him to the other politicians and realize that he Lies as much as they do.

The difference is, his Lies are more honest than the lies spewed by his opponents.

Katman

29th March 2019, 18:22

- a classic example atm is the House of Commons being pro-Remain, whereas the UK as a whole being Pro-Leave.

How do you figure that? (Considering the referendum was a 51/49 split).

TheDemonLord

29th March 2019, 18:49

How do you figure that? (Considering the referendum was a 51/49 split).

So you agree, more people in the UK are pro-leave then...

Katman

29th March 2019, 18:51

So you agree, more people in the UK are pro-leave then...

How does that equate to "the UK as a whole"?

F5 Dave

29th March 2019, 23:14

I just can’t see how anyone’s intellect can be that lacking not to notice and actually challenge, take the seconds to even check the stuff Trump clearly lies about. Then think to themselves why trust him to run a country if he can’t even tell basic simple truths.
There is simple spin and there is media bias on both sides but there is also what trump does.
Donald trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.
There's a lot more wrong with the world than Donald Trump. Hes just the clown prince. My, and really HDCs point - is that America spouts Democracy as its defining principle but is so far removed from actual democracy that it's a travesty.
If they had a better voter turn out that might slowly change.

husaberg

29th March 2019, 23:34

There's a lot more wrong with the world than Donald Trump. Hes just the clown prince. My, and really HDCs point - is that America spouts Democracy as its defining principle but is so far removed from actual democracy that it's a travesty.
If they had a better voter turn out that might slowly change.

I can't see how America could ever change with the three major layers of corruption and the limited options. But jeez they still should be able to find better monkey than the current shaved orangutan.
You can sum up the issues with America with four examples
Kim Kardashian
Donald Trump
Harvey Weinstein
The NRA

F5 Dave

30th March 2019, 06:15

That's why they need The Boss. He'd win an election. After all, unlike Arnie, he was . . .

husaberg

30th March 2019, 09:51

That's why they need The Boss. He'd win an election. After all, unlike Arnie, he was . . .

Arnie was also a self made man

AllanB

30th March 2019, 12:16

until we achieve warp drive and move out into the galaxy.

Then we will just fuck up another planet.

HenryDorsetCase

30th March 2019, 19:45

I just can’t see how anyone’s intellect can be that lacking not to notice and actually challenge, take the seconds to even check the stuff Trump clearly lies about. Then think to themselves why trust him to run a country if he can’t even tell basic simple truths.
There is simple spin and there is media bias on both sides but there is also what trump does.
Donald trump is the epitome of all that is wrong with the world.
My favourites are the conservative evangelical southern so callwd christians who support drumpf.. unironically. My particular favourite moral bankruptcy was one of the hateful cunts saying "he is a bad man who will do good work"....

husaberg

30th March 2019, 19:51

My favourites are the conservative evangelical southern so callwd christians who support drumpf.. unironically. My particular favourite moral bankruptcy was one of the hateful cunts saying "he is a bad man who will do good work"....

Yeah some other have tried to rationalise it with the same logic.
Oddly i dont recall many controversies that had ay substance with Obama.
He could also orate a speech remember briefing's hold Q&A and not blatantly interfere with stuff.

jasonu

31st March 2019, 04:23

Oddly i dont recall many controversies that had ay substance with Obama.

That's got a lot to do with the liberal media blasting Trump every time he gets out of bed. Obama was fucking horrible, you lot just didn't see it as much.

husaberg

31st March 2019, 11:13

That's got a lot to do with the liberal media blasting Trump every time he gets out of bed. Obama was fucking horrible, you lot just didn't see it as much.

Really you have no right wing media in the USA?
anyone would think the rich that own media wold be more prone to right wing. and the rich would bev more likely to own the media.

In January, during the longest government shutdown in America’s history, President Donald Trump rode in a motorcade through Hidalgo County, Texas, eventually stopping on a grassy bluff overlooking the Rio Grande. The White House wanted to dramatize what Trump was portraying as a national emergency: the need to build a wall along the Mexican border. The presence of armored vehicles, bales of confiscated marijuana, and federal agents in flak jackets underscored the message.
But the photo op dramatized something else about the Administration. After members of the press pool got out of vans and headed over to where the President was about to speak, they noticed that Sean Hannity, the Fox News host, was already on location. Unlike them, he hadn’t been confined by the Secret Service, and was mingling with Administration officials, at one point hugging Kirstjen Nielsen, the Secretary of Homeland Security. The pool report noted that Hannity was seen “huddling” with the White House communications director, Bill Shine. After the photo op, Hannity had an exclusive on-air interview with Trump. Politico later reported that it was Hannity’s seventh interview with the President, and Fox’s forty-second. Since then, Trump has given Fox two more. He has granted only ten to the three other main television networks combined, and none to CNN, which he denounces as “fake news.

Nicole Hemmer, an assistant professor of Presidential studies at the University of Virginia’s Miller Center and the author of “Messengers of the Right,” a history of the conservative media’s impact on American politics, says of Fox, “It’s the closest we’ve come to having state TV.”

Hemmer argues that Fox—which, as the most watched cable news network, generates about $2.7 billion a year for its parent company, 21st Century Fox—acts as a force multiplier for Trump, solidifying his hold over the Republican Party and intensifying his support. “Fox is not just taking the temperature of the base—it’s raising the temperature,” she says. “It’s a radicalization model.” For both Trump and Fox, “fear is a business strategy—it keeps people watching.” As the President has been beset by scandals, congressional hearings,
nd even talk of impeachment, Fox has been both his shield and his sword. The White House and Fox interact so seamlessly that it can be hard to determine, during a particular news cycle, which one is following the other’s lead. All day long, Trump retweets claims made on the network; his press secretary, Sarah Sanders, has largely stopped holding press conferences, but she has made some thirty appearances on such shows as “Fox & Friends” and “Hannity.” Trump, Hemmer says, has “almost become a programmer.”

[. Bill Kristol, who was a paid contributor to Fox News until 2012 and is a prominent Never Trumper, said of the network, “It’s changed a lot. Before, it was conservative, but it wasn’t crazy. Now it’s just propaganda.” Joe Peyronnin, a professor of journalism at N.Y.U., was an early president of Fox News, in the mid-nineties. “I’ve never seen anything like it before,” he says of Fox. “It’s as if the President had his own press organization. It’s not healthy.”

nothing has formalized the partnership between Fox and Trump more than the appointment, in July, 2018, of Bill Shine, the former co-president of Fox News, as director of communications and deputy chief of staff at the White House.

So what were the f-horrible obama things the daily gaffs the nepotism etc.
The rest of the world respected Obama.
We all thought Trump was a buffoon even before his candidacy. you only had to watch 5 minutes of his TV show to pick up on that.
On the flip side, Obama was charismatic witty and articulate with a great sense of humor, Yet still Trump manages to provide the world with more to laugh at.

F5 Dave

31st March 2019, 17:36

Arnie was also a self made man
Arnie is Austrian so he couldn't run for President. Bruce Springsteen however was.. . . (This is the bit you were supposed to go Bwaarn n the YouEssAye, I wuz. . . )

husaberg

31st March 2019, 18:20

Arnie is Austrian so he couldn't run for President. Bruce Springsteen however was.. . . (This is the bit you were supposed to go Bwaarn n the YouEssAye, I wuz. . . )

Yeah i did know that, i read a book on him when i was about 14, i also knew he was married to American Democrat royalty (AKA an almost Kennedy) think she was a cousin, who was also a well respected newscaster.
There must have been some rather robust debates on holiday weekends at Camelot.
But the point i was making was Anrie did it all for himself, with no millions of dollars of family support. I might not agree with arnies politics but you have to admire his ability to create all of that from nothing.

pritch

1st April 2019, 11:18

My favourites are the conservative evangelical southern so callwd christians who support drumpf.. unironically. My particular favourite moral bankruptcy was one of the hateful cunts saying "he is a bad man who will do good work"....

Falwell Jr and others have been quoted as saying Trump was sent by God to save the republic. Recently I came across a social media page where all concerned considered Trump was a saviour. In the biblical sense. The real problem is the some of the congenital imbeciles Trump has in his cabinet believe the end days are coming and they see them selves as an instrument of God's will. Pompeo, the Secretary of State, is one such who anticipates 'the rapture' with relish.

To have such people directly influencing an ignorant, mentally ill president, who is also suffering senile dementia at an accelerating rate is a scary thought.

pritch

1st April 2019, 11:55

The first time I saw this I was worried. He has no idea where he is. This has now become common place.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sF5TGQgQJeA&frags=pl%2Cwn

F5 Dave

1st April 2019, 11:55

Learn to swim.

F5 Dave

1st April 2019, 11:58

Now I have an earworm:rolleyes:

Some say the end is near
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
Certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from
This bullshit three ring circus sideshow

[Chorus]
Of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any fucking time, any fucking day
Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay

[Verse 2]
Fret for your figure and fret for your latte and
Fret for your lawsuit and fret for your hairpiece and
Fret for your Prozac and fret for your pilot and
Fret for your contract and fret for your car
It's a bullshit three ring circus sideshow

[Chorus]
Of freaks here in this hopeless fucking hole we call L.A
The only way to fix it is to flush it all away
Any fucking time, any fucking day
Learn to swim, see you down in Arizona Bay

[Bridge]
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey-ah, hey, hey, hey-ah
Hey, hey-ah, hey

[Verse 3]
Some say a comet will fall from the sky
Followed by meteor showers and tidal waves
Followed by fault lines that cannot sit still
Followed by millions of dumbfounded dipshits
And some say the end is near
Some say we'll see Armageddon soon
I certainly hope we will
I sure could use a vacation from this
Stupid shit, silly shit, stupid shit
One great big festering neon distraction
I've a suggestion to keep you all occupied
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
'Cause Mom's gonna fix it all soon
Mom's coming 'round to put it back the way it ought to be

[Instrumental]

[Verse 4]
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Fuck L Ron Hubbard, and fuck all his clones
Fuck all these gun-toting hip gangster wannabes
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Yeah, fuck retro anything, fuck your tattoos
Fuck all you junkies, and fuck your short memory
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Yeah, fuck smiley glad-hands with hidden agendas
Fuck these dysfunctional insecure actresses
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim
Learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim, learn to swim

[Verse 5]
'Cause I'm praying for rain
I'm praying for tidal waves
I want to see the ground give way
I want to watch it all go down
Mom, please flush it all away
I want to see it go right down
I want to watch it go right in
Watch you flush it all away

[Verse 6]
Yeah, time to bring it down again
Yeah, don't just call me pessimist
Try and read between the lines
And I can't imagine why you wouldn't
Welcome any change, my friend
I want to see it come down
Bring it down
Suck it down
Flush it down

[Outro]
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey, hey, hey
Hey, hey, hey, hey

L.A is past saving, it has to be flooded. This is a biblical reference to God flooding… read

husaberg

1st April 2019, 13:35

The first time I saw this I was worried. He has no idea where he is. This has now become common place.

To be fair it was a very small limo not parked directly in front of the plane:msn-wink:
The Secret service agent needs a kicking for letting the others in the outside exposed to possible gunfire door.

Off the same feed
Trump is highly intelligent but only if you compare him to a pre neolithic village leader from 20,000 years ago.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phsU1vVHOQI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHv0RExQsPQ

pzkpfw

6th April 2019, 09:59

It'll get worse, not better: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/111790434/donald-trump-is-unraveling-before-our-eyes

pritch

6th April 2019, 11:58

It'll get worse, not better: https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/111790434/donald-trump-is-unraveling-before-our-eyes

That was not a good report, like most we get here they miss important detail. Trump actually said that it was the sound of the wind turbines that causes cancer which, of course, came as news to the medical profession.

Trump is not a fan of wind power generation. He tried to stop a windfarm being built in the sea off one of his Scottish golf courses. He lost the case and costs were awarded against him. Three hundred thousand odd quids worth. Apparently he has told the British government that if they pursue the debt that would be harmful to UK/US relations. You could file that under corruption.

Trump's mental condition is deteriorating at an accelerating rate. Doctors have been moved to comment on social media and that's a first that I have seen. He now frequently has no idea where he is or why he's there. Apparently old clips of him speaking do not show the incoherent word salad that he dishes up today. And don't forget he has the nuclear codes.

The other day Trump was advised that the House Ways and Means Committee had requested six years worth of his tax returns. He waffled on before saying he was not disposed to release them. He has no say, they haven't requested them from him, they've requested them from the IRS as they are entitled to do by law. Of course, Mnuchin who overseas the tax department is a Trump appointee so there could be a fight. The Ways and Means committee may have an odd name but basically they are in charge of all government income and expenditure, thus they have seriously heavyweight powers.

husaberg

6th April 2019, 12:46

That was not a good report, like most we get here they miss important detail. Trump actually said that it was the sound of the wind turbines that causes cancer which, of course, came as news to the medical profession.

Trump is not a fan of wind power generation. He tried to stop a windfarm being built in the sea off one of his Scottish golf courses. He lost the case and costs were awarded against him. Three hundred thousand odd quids worth. Apparently he has told the British government that if they pusue the debt that would be harmful to UK/US relations. You could file that under corruption.
.

Didnt he say once he had never lost a court case?

pritch

6th April 2019, 15:46

Didnt he say once he had never lost a court case?

He may have lost hundreds. Most he threatens don't actually happen. Bill Maher said Trump's father was an orangutan and Trump made loud noises about how he was taking him to court. He may have even consulted a lawyer, but it would have been a lost cause and it never happened.

Also that windfarm thing is only recent, as in the last month or so.

husaberg

6th April 2019, 16:03

He may have lost hundreds. Most he threatens don't actually happen. Bill Maher said Trump's father was an orangutan and Trump made loud noises about how he was taking him to court. He may have even consulted a lawyer, but it would have been a lost cause and it never happened.

Also that windfarm thing is only recent, as in the last month or so.

this came up he has never won a libel case at all ever.
https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/10/donald-trump-has-never-won-a-libel-case

“Trump and his companies have been involved in a mind-boggling 4,000 lawsuits over the last 30 years and sent countless threatening cease-and-desist letters to journalists and critics.” Neither he nor his companies have won a speech-related case,
Sorry it might have been never settling cases

TRUMP: ... We have a 98 percent approval rating from the people who took the course. We have an “A” from the Better Business Bureau. And, people like it. Now, he’s saying they didn’t learn.
We have many, many people that will be witnesses. Again, I don’t settle cases. I don’t do it because that’s why I don’t get sued very often, because I don’t settle, unlike a lot of other people.
The Better Business Bureau responded by saying that it never gave Trump University an “A” rating, and had in fact received “many consumer complaints” about the university. As for not getting sued very often, a report in February found that Trump had been named in 169 (nice) federal lawsuits.
Trump was due in court on November 28, but it looks like the man who said he’d never settle is going to settle. Early reports suggest that Trump will pay between $20 million and $25 million. It’s likely that Trump and his team want to keep him out of court because having a president-elect being tried for fraud is not a particularly good look. But given Trump’s mountain of debt, history of dodgy endeavors, and conflicts of interest, tying Trump up in court may be a good strategy for combatting his presidency.

After all settling would be like admitting defeat and defeat is clearly just fake news of a epic trump victory.:laugh:

3500 lawsuits i would hate to think how many he would be involved in if he considered he was someone sued much?
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2016/06/01/donald-trump-lawsuits-legal-battles/84995854/

pritch

6th April 2019, 16:49

A year or two back I read an account of an occasion Trump sued a newspaper, it may have been the Herald Tribune in that case mentioned in your Vanity Fair item. The paper's lawyers forced Trump to produce all sorts of information in court that normally he would prefer to keep confidential.

Under cross examination as to his worth the estimate he gave was wildly different to the figures in the information supplied to the court. The judge asked why that was. Trump replied that his answer was how rich he felt.

Trump had been forced to reveal a great deal of information about his business that he would rather have kept quiet so there was no way he could count it a win. After the case he boasted that the case had bankrupted the journalist. The paper and their insurance company paid, it didn't cost the journo a cent. There may have been a cost to him in stress but not in cash.

jasonu

7th April 2019, 02:35

RDJ

7th April 2019, 05:30

yadda yada yadda

Shouldn't you be charging Trump rent for living in your head all this time?

husaberg

7th April 2019, 11:05

Shouldn't you be charging Trump rent for living in your head all this time?
I would if I knew he could pay, but know one knows, He refuses to release his tax returns.
You never used to troll post RDJ, is everything all right in your life?

jasonu

7th April 2019, 15:00

He refuses to release his tax returns.

You are the last one in the world who gives a fuck about that.

husaberg

7th April 2019, 15:36

You are the last one in the world who gives a fuck about that.

Last or only?

For more than four years, President Donald Trump has refused to release his federal income tax returns.
Friday, his attorney said the president plans to continue doing so, despite pressure from House Democrats to make the returns public.
In a letter to the Treasury Department, Trump’s attorney William Consovoy called on the Internal Revenue Service (IRS) to reject a request from the House Ways and Means Committee to release the president’s personal and business tax return.
Rep. Richard Neal (D-MA), who chairs the House Ways and Means Committee, demanded Trump’s returns on Wednesday, following months of a slow and meticulous start to a number of investigations into the Trump White House by Democrats newly in control of the House of Representatives.

Neal wants six years worth of Trump’s personal federal income tax returns and returns for business entities tied to his name, spanning 2013 through 2018. The chairman set an April 10 deadline for returns’ release.

Trump defied decades of precedent in refusing to release his returns — every modern presidential party nominee has made their tax returns public at one point or another. The president has justified his refusal to follow suit, but his justifications keep changing.
Over the course of his 2016 presidential campaign, Trump waffled over whether he’d actually make his returns available to the public. Before formally announcing his campaign, Trump promised conservative radio host Hugh Hewitt he would release his returns should he run for president. The president then punted on the issue after he formally declared his candidacy months later, saying in August 2015 that he’d release them “at some point.”
Trump teased of a big tax return reveal during the Republican primary season. But as Vox’s Andrew Prokop notes, Trump’s storyline started to shift around the time he edged closer to clinching the party’s nomination. Trump began arguing that he was barred from releasing his returns because he was being audited by the IRS. Only after the audit was finished would he be able to make the returns public, he claimed.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fczvwZnmu94

Trumps lawyer says Trump has committed tax and insurance and bank fraud

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lCHrKz_29iA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lV1qC4gSok8

husaberg

7th April 2019, 15:50

Must watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Kl8kheGBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9b313N7E8
Pritch was talking about this i hadn't seen it.

pritch

7th April 2019, 16:02

That clip "Trump reacts to Democrat's request for tax returns" is the one I mentioned in post #135. He didn't understand the question and he gave a silly answer. His logic seems to be that the government can't see my tax returns because the government is looking at my tax returns.

Somebody must have drawn him a picture because he hired a new lawyer to deal specifically with this yesterday.

jasonu

7th April 2019, 18:06

Must watch

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H6Kl8kheGBg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lx9b313N7E8
Pritch was talking about this i hadn't seen it.

Lawrence Donnell is the biggest dick head on TV. Anyone who believes anything he says is an even bigger dick head.

husaberg

7th April 2019, 19:01

Lawrence Donnell is the biggest dick head on TV. Anyone who believes anything he says is an even bigger dick head.

And the bits were trump is quoted on camera, do we believe those?

HenryDorsetCase

7th April 2019, 20:38

You are the last one in the world who gives a fuck about that.

You are quite literally the only Trump apologist or supporter I know, so I'll ask you the questions. Answer if you like or tell me to fuck off. Did you vote for him (assuming you are entitled to vote in a US election)? If so, why?

Given that there have been a large number of documented instances of trump being wrong, or lying, are you still a supporter? What would it take for you to stop being a supporter?

I am actually genuinely curious. I of course live in my sickly liberal echo chamber so I literally have no one else to ask. All the Americans I know are sickly liberals as well, and to a woman they despise Trump, the Republicans, and the American policital process. Its like religion, music and TV shows - we just don't go there.

Signed

Curious, of New Zealand.

jasonu

8th April 2019, 04:49

You are quite literally the only Trump apologist or supporter I know, so I'll ask you the questions. Answer if you like or tell me to fuck off. Did you vote for him (assuming you are entitled to vote in a US election)? If so, why?

Given that there have been a large number of documented instances of trump being wrong, or lying, are you still a supporter? What would it take for you to stop being a supporter?

I am actually genuinely curious. I of course live in my sickly liberal echo chamber so I literally have no one else to ask. All the Americans I know are sickly liberals as well, and to a woman they despise Trump, the Republicans, and the American policital process. Its like religion, music and TV shows - we just don't go there.

Signed

Curious, of New Zealand.

It was an election that had probably the 2 most unpopular candidates ever. I voted for Trump because I disliked him slightly less than the old hag. My vote was a vote against her. There are a lot of people here that did likewise for the same reason. I still think I made the correct choice. Things for the average citizen are ticking along quite nicely.
I never actually said I support Trump (other than voting for him of course). He is light years away from being perfect but anyone was better than that fucking clinton woman.

Grumph

8th April 2019, 06:35

It was an election that had probably the 2 most unpopular candidates ever. I voted for Trump because I disliked him slightly less than the old hag. My vote was a vote against her. There are a lot of people here that did likewise for the same reason. I still think I made the correct choice. Things for the average citizen are ticking along quite nicely.
I never actually said I support Trump (other than voting for him of course). He is light years away from being perfect but anyone was better than that fucking clinton woman.

I wonder how much of that was formed by your previously - and vehemently - expressed dislike for Helen Clarke. If she'd got in, you'd have had a continuation of straight Democrat policies. What exactly did you get with this idiot ? What appears to be a Christian version of Sharia law coming in which should set human rights in the US back abouit a century.

Yes, we get that for the average Joe the economy is ticking along nicely. But Trump can't take the credit for that, it was a delayed bounce from the Obama years. I'm hearing on other forums from US based members that some specialty industries are suffering badly from the tarrifs

Trump is the international face of the US - and it's a bloody ugly one. But his base simply won't see past the bullshit.

jasonu

8th April 2019, 06:57

I wonder how much of that was formed by your previously - and vehemently - expressed dislike for Helen Clarke. If she'd got in, you'd have had a continuation of straight Democrat policies. What exactly did you get with this idiot ? What appears to be a Christian version of Sharia law coming in which should set human rights in the US back abouit a century.

Yes, we get that for the average Joe the economy is ticking along nicely. But Trump can't take the credit for that, it was a delayed bounce from the Obama years. I'm hearing on other forums from US based members that some specialty industries are suffering badly from the tarrifs

Trump is the international face of the US - and it's a bloody ugly one. But his base simply won't see past the bullshit.

If obama and co hadn't fucked Bernie Sanders they would have won.

Grumph

8th April 2019, 08:21

If obama and co hadn't fucked Bernie Sanders they would have won.

You're not only sounding like the Trump supporters - you're posting like one.

The typical tactic when attacked on Trump is diversion - "What about"...usually Clinton or Obama...

jasonu

8th April 2019, 08:46

The typical tactic when attacked on Trump is diversion - "What about"...usually Clinton or Obama...

You mean like husa and his constant 'but National...'? I don't think so.

Trump got in because he was SLIGHTLY less hated than Mrs. C. Had the Dems backed just about anyone else (Bernie for example) they would have steamed in.

pritch

8th April 2019, 08:51

You're not only sounding like the Trump supporters - you're posting like one.

In that instance Jason may have a point. Debbie Wasserman-Schwass was the head of the Democrat Party national body at the time, having previously been Clinton's chief of staff. The candidate selection process was biased in favour of Clinton. The usual expression seems to be along the lines, "the scales were tilted in her favour".

Sanders was performing better against Trump in polling than was Clinton, but the voters never got that option.

husaberg

8th April 2019, 09:36

You mean like husa and his constant 'but National...'? I don't think so.

Odd, i only post in response to someone wrongly attribute blame or credit saying such crap like do we do well economically and thrive and dont mentioned they ran a budget deficient and borrowed money the whole time they were in power.
I post figures to back up what i say. its not an opinion its pure facts. Some people just dodnt like hearing it though.

HenryDorsetCase

8th April 2019, 10:09

HenryDorsetCase

8th April 2019, 10:20

You mean like husa and his constant 'but National...'? I don't think so.

Trump got in because he was SLIGHTLY less hated than Mrs. C. Had the Dems backed just about anyone else (Bernie for example) they would have steamed in.

I'm not sure you can say that - Trump got in because of quirks in the American "democratic" system - in terms of popular vote he was second, but the electoral college system meant he got elected. Having said that, you are absolutely right: he got in and they both knew how that system worked had the opportunity to work it.

I think you're right though - a lot of ppl assumed just because Hilary C was the democratic candidate she would get in. Having said that, I am interested in the outcome of what the russian interference actually was.

jasonu

8th April 2019, 10:29

Odd, i only post in response to someone wrongly attribute blame or credit saying such crap like do we do well economically and thrive and dont mentioned they ran a budget deficient and borrowed money the whole time they were in power.
I post figures to back up what i say. its not an opinion its pure facts. Some people just dodnt like hearing it though.

You defend the crappy job Labour is doing by saying national did an even crappier job

husaberg

8th April 2019, 10:38

You defend the crappy job Labour is doing by saying national did an even crappier job

Examples of the crappy job would be nice?
no trade wars, no trade embargoes, no threats of war, unemployment and interest rates nearly at an all time low. the economies growing, Sick people have free health care and we are repaying overseas debt .:msn-wink:
NZ people are some of the happiest places on earth, they also live in one of the world least corrupt countries.
If the current lot is really doing such a crappy job why is their popularity going up every poll?

F5 Dave

8th April 2019, 12:22

Grumph

8th April 2019, 14:46

Bring back Colin Craig for some good Christian values.

I hope he campaigns on an anti-abortion platform as it's getting traction in the US - and it's right up his alley.

That would see the end of him once and for all.

HenryDorsetCase

8th April 2019, 15:45

I hope he campaigns on an anti-abortion platform as it's getting traction in the US - and it's right up his alley.

That would see the end of him once and for all.

I have fetish videos of Colin Craig walking. And he is just like Saru in Star Trek Discovery. No wonder I'm turned on.

husaberg

8th April 2019, 17:43

Hmm. Do you include the alternative being Winnie or Bridges?

How hard is it to have your front person be credible?
Seymour is probably or best joke.

Bring back Colin Craig for some good Christian values.

There was the other christian heritage party dude Graham Capill.

https://www.odt.co.nz/news/national/graham-capill-be-released-jail

F5 Dave

8th April 2019, 19:56

I hope he campaigns on an anti-abortion platform as it's getting traction in the US - and it's right up his alley.

That would see the end of him once and for all.
I kinda think we have seen the end of him.

Was fun while it lasted

husaberg

8th April 2019, 20:05

I read a piece the other day on why trump and the Republicans are still popular someone said te average lower to middle income group is so close to financial disaster that even the though of a small economic ripple will cause them to go under they are convinced that they have to go along with it, it was interesting reading.
The thing is though the wall street run cant last, and when it does go down dramatically how are they going to blame Obama, Clinton and the Mexicans for that.

jasonu

9th April 2019, 02:26

Examples of the crappy job would be nice?

It's all in here
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183438-The-2017-Election-Thread

husaberg

9th April 2019, 08:54

It's all in here
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/183438-The-2017-Election-Thread

No jason, you dont get off that easy, give us some examples.

jasonu

9th April 2019, 12:05

No jason, you dont get off that easy, give us some examples.

What order would you like me to list them in?

husaberg

9th April 2019, 12:17

What order would you like me to list them in?

Any order would be fine alphabetical, crappiest to least crappiest whatever you like.

jasonu

10th April 2019, 05:11

Any order would be fine alphabetical, crappiest to least crappiest whatever you like.

I’ll get right on it.

husaberg

10th April 2019, 10:43

I’ll get right on it.

Seems like you are just not coming up with anything plausible at all.
You have had two days now thus far and all you have come up wit is a bit of rhetoric.

jasonu

10th April 2019, 12:28

Seems like you are just not coming up with anything plausible at all.
You have had two days now thus far and all you have come up wit is a bit of rhetoric.

Had you ever heard of or used the word rhetoric before it became about the most common and trendy word to use by the liberal USA media (closely followed by the shit NZ media) after their Hillary lost the election?

HenryDorsetCase

10th April 2019, 12:51

anyone got any comment about this particular shitstorm?

not brexit, but the God Emperor lying by saying Obama was separating families at the border, then saying he was going to do it again and now saying he won't?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/09/trump-family-separation-immigration-policy-not-reinstating

Build that wall! Mexico will pay! There is a crisis at the border!

husaberg

10th April 2019, 12:54

Had you ever heard of or used the word rhetoric before it became about the most common and trendy word to use by the liberal USA media (closely followed by the shit NZ media) after their Hillary lost the election?
Sounds like another stalling tactic.
Yes, i often have , without wishing to be sounding like a braggart, i have a fairly extensive vocabulary. Just exceedingly lazy grammar punctuation and spelling.
If you will look back in 2011 which if i are not mistaken precedes your last presidential election by a fairly substantial margin, i used the word fairly regularly.
Two pages worth in fact. looks like i used it 12 times at least just on KB alone before Trump even announced his candidacy.

Now listen here scooterboy, there was No scooters in Cams the whole time I raced! Give someone enough rope and they will hang themselves, you have done it again.
George would roll over in his grave at the thought of it.
It would have been fun to kick your smug arse off the track on one though.
So don't try and bluff your way out of it with infantile rhetoric and innuendo. You are not even half way clever enough. Neil
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/140786-RS125-rolling-chassis-for-Moto-3-conversion?p=1130134450#post1130134450

Illegal drugs
The topic is decriminalising Dope. An illegal drug
I guess you seen the "Dope" bit and thought I was talking to you?
Sorry
Tell you what seeing as the Dope hasn't effected all your minds Much.
You tell me the benefits of decriminalising Dope and then back them up with real figures and not rhetoric.
Why don't you throw in a couple of Doctors to back your opinions up as well.
Better still stop having to escape reality by needing to take mind altering substances.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142435-Don-Brash-quot-We-should-decriminalise-marijuana-quot?p=1130164131&highlight=rhetoric#post1130164131

You do have problems answering questions don't you.
I remember our last discussion You are quite thick on rhetoric but real thin on Answers to what atre simple questions and revert to snide remarks.
If your point of view is able to withstand scrutiny. You would think you would be able to answer simple questions.
https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/142435-Don-Brash-quot-We-should-decriminalise-marijuana-quot?p=1130163561&highlight=rhetoric#post1130163561

But we digress, i still dont see any of the examples i asked for 2 days ago yet.
So enough with your obfuscating, post the examples then.

pritch

11th April 2019, 10:31

anyone got any comment about this particular shitstorm?

not brexit, but the God Emperor lying by saying Obama was separating families at the border, then saying he was going to do it again and now saying he won't?

The link doesn't work and I haven't got to that Guardian item yet.

The truth, as I understand it, is that under Obama a law was introduced to permit children to be separated if child trafficking or similar was suspected. The mass removal of children from their parents, many of whom as yet are not returned to their parents and some of whom have already been adopted out, is all Trump. The policy is believed to have been the brain child of Steven Miller the White House's resident Jewish white supremacist. Apparently Miller is immune to irony.

Totally unrelated but worth a look. Competition for the silliest question in congressional hearings is hot but Rep Massie, Kentucky, is chasing the title. The whole thing is interesting but the first 1.30 will give you the idea.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DRBfM709Yqc&frags=pl%2Cwn

Grumph

11th April 2019, 12:57

anyone got any comment about this particular shitstorm?

not brexit, but the God Emperor lying by saying Obama was separating families at the border, then saying he was going to do it again and now saying he won't?

Pritch has it right. It's said that Kirstjen Neilson lost her job because she didn't want to enforce Trump's policy. Given Trump lies every time he opens his mouth, the policy of separation will probably continue. Neilson's successor won't be her deputy as protocol would have it, Trump looks like appointing a loyalist hard liner. The deputy has resigned before being fired.
Amusingly, the "Obama did it" claim is apparently one of the most common things fact checked on line.
Despite being disproved many tiimes, Trump continues to claim it - presumably because his base believe anything he says...

husaberg

11th April 2019, 13:14

Pritch has it right. It's said that Kirstjen Neilson lost her job because she didn't want to enforce Trump's policy. Given Trump lies every time he opens his mouth, the policy of separation will probably continue. Neilson's successor won't be her deputy as protocol would have it, Trump looks like appointing a loyalist hard liner. The deputy has resigned before being fired.
Amusingly, the "Obama did it" claim is apparently one of the most common things fact checked on line.
Despite being disproved many tiimes, Trump continues to claim it - presumably because his base believe anything he says...

The principle & which is quite true in itself & that in the big lie there is always a certain force of credibility; because the broad masses of a nation are always more easily corrupted in the deeper strata of their emotional nature than consciously or voluntarily,"
Paraphrased : "The bigger the lie, the more it will be believed."

" When one lies, it should be a big lie, and one should stick to it.

"Propaganda should be popular, not intellectually pleasing. It is not the task of propaganda to discover intellectual truths."

pritch

11th April 2019, 16:12

The deputy has resigned before being fired.

Apparently the Dept of Homeland Security had strict rules about succession at the top and it was a legal requirement for the 2ic to take over the top job. Trump forced her out as well though, so he can now appoint whatever thug he wants.

I don't know if he has someone in mind, but Trump appointments don't usually last long and whoever takes this new vacancy will likely be unemployable thereafter.

Nielsen's best job prospect appears to be FOX News. She's got all the right qualifications: she's blonde.

F5 Dave

11th April 2019, 16:57

OK I was kidding, this chap can bugger off

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/111959509/colin-craig-wins-latest-defamation-duel-with-jordan-williams-retrial-ordered

husaberg

11th April 2019, 18:07

OK I was kidding, this chap can bugger off

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/111959509/colin-craig-wins-latest-defamation-duel-with-jordan-williams-retrial-ordered

The guys a Sack of excrement.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/107244863/alison-mau-rachel-macgregor-case-reveals-glitch-in-our-justice-system

F5 Dave

11th April 2019, 19:39

Repent dinner. Jesus is Lorde.

husaberg

11th April 2019, 19:59

Repent dinner. Jesus is Lorde.

Reminds me of how Brian Tamaki said the Kaikoura earthquake was caused by homosexuality.
https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2016/11/16/brian-tamaki-and-his-homosexual-hating-earthquakes/

F5 Dave

11th April 2019, 20:12

and Catholics. Don't forgive the 2nd schism.

. . . or was that the 3rd?

Probably more the 3rd.

husaberg

11th April 2019, 20:24

Blame Catholics......if they are doing it properly shouldn't they already fell guilty enough about their own thoughts.

pzkpfw

16th April 2019, 07:02

"So horrible to watch the massive fire at Notre Dame Cathedral in Paris. Perhaps flying water tankers could be used to put it out, Must act quickly!''

Yeah, um, thanks for that Don.

pritch

16th April 2019, 12:21

He's got lots of words, he's got the best words. :whistle:

“It was burning at a level you rarely see a fire burn. It’s one of the great treasures of the world. ... Probably, if you think about it, it might be greater than almost any museum in the world, and it’s burning very badly. Looks like it’s burning to the ground.”

husaberg

16th April 2019, 12:34

Say what Don..........

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
The Fake News Media is working overtime to blame me for the horrible attack in New Zealand. They will have to work very hard to prove that one. So Ridiculous!
1:38 AM - Mar 19, 2019
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-christchurch-terrorist-claims-media-is-trying-to-blame-him-for-new-zealand-mass-shooting/

A top White House official earlier said Trump "is not a white supremacist" and attempts to tie him to the alleged shooter are "absurd."
Mick Mulvaney, the acting chief of staff, described the New Zealand shooter as a "disturbed individual" and "evil person" and said it was unfair to cast the 28-year-old Australian "as a supporter of Donald Trump"
Mulvaney said Trump is a defender of religious minorities worldwide, and that his actions speak louder than his words.
"Look at what we've done while we've been here," he said. "I don't think anybody could say that the president is anti-Muslim."
https://www.stuff.co.nz/world/americas/111356346/white-house-aide-says-unfair-to-tie-evil-mosque-shooter-to-donald-trump

On Monday, White House counselor Kellyanne Conway called the claims “predictable and outrageous.” Conway compared the most recent mass shooting to when Representative Steve Scalise (R-La.) was shot at a congressional baseball practice in 2017, which Conway called “the worst day” of the administration’s first year in the White House.
“We didn't run around saying, ‘Gee, the guy watches MSNBC or he’s a Bernie supporter,’” Conway said. “Nobody should do that. Nobody should blame folks other than the evil, hateful shooter.”
Conway also slammed those taking shots at the president on the air or using social media.
“Folks, if you're not expert on this, stop weighing in like you are,” she said. “We don't need to hear your opinion on every single thing.”

AS far as i can see the only bit was this that he managed to draw out a conspiracy from.

Senator Tim Kaine (D-Va.), Senator Amy Klobuchar (D-Minn.), Senator Richard Blumenthal (D-Conn.) and Representative Rashida Talib (D-Mich.) — publicly criticized the president for failing to condemn white nationalists and suggested his inflammatory language contributes to the violence

l18/3/19 Trump he told reporters in the Oval Office that he doesn’t believe white nationalism is a rising threat around the world.

jasonu

16th April 2019, 16:04

Say what Don..........

https://www.politico.eu/article/donald-trump-christchurch-terrorist-claims-media-is-trying-to-blame-him-for-new-zealand-mass-shooting/

AS far as i can see the only bit was this that he managed to draw out a conspiracy from.

Quoting Politco hahaha about as one eyed as CNN and Fox News.

husaberg

16th April 2019, 17:32

Quoting Politco hahaha about as one eyed as CNN and Fox News.
You mean as one eyed as the news Trump Watches and quotes.
I quoted Trump directly from his tweet.:bleh:
341542
Politico was the response to that tweet.

Asked by a reporter if he saw white nationalism as a rising threat around the world, Mr Trump said: "I don't really.".
http://time.com/5552850/donald-trump-white-nationalism-global-threat-new-zealand/
https://www.vox.com/identities/2019/3/16/18268856/new-zealand-shooter-white-nationalism-united-states
https://www.businessinsider.com.au/trump-rise-white-nationalism-new-zealand-terror-attack-2019-3?r=US&IR=T
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/03/17/opinion/trump-violence.html
A week ago you were going to post some stuff.

You defend the crappy job Labour is doing by saying national did an even crappier job

Examples of the crappy job would be nice?
no trade wars, no trade embargoes, no threats of war, unemployment and interest rates nearly at an all time low. the economies growing, Sick people have free health care and we are repaying overseas debt .:msn-wink:
NZ people are some of the happiest places on earth, they also live in one of the world least corrupt countries.
If the current lot is really doing such a crappy job why is their popularity going up every poll?

341535

pritch

19th April 2019, 14:31

It runs in the family apparently. After Barr made his report on the Mueller report, Trump Jr posted "TOLD YA!!!" on Twitter. This was presumably in reaction to Muellers decision not to charge him for his meeting with the Russians. The reason Mueller gave for not indicting Jr was that he was not mentally competent. (I can't remember the exact wording but that's definitely the gist.)

Jr is the embodiment of the saying, "Too stupid to know he's stupid." The apple doesn't fall far from the tree.

husaberg

20th April 2019, 18:12

According to the latest poll, only 37 percent of adults in the United States approved of Trump’s performance in office.
http://fm.cnbc.com/applications/cnbc.com/resources/editorialfiles/charts/2017/03/1489945790_Screen_Shot_2017-03-19_at_1.48.25_PM.png
To put that in context its almost exactly 1/2 the approval rating of Jacinda Adern.

In UMR, Ms Ardern's approval rating has been consistently in the 72-76 percent range since March, comparable with Sir John Key at his most popular. Her disapproval rating has ranged from 14 to 24 percent
Now Jasons said a few times that jacindas shit as a PM, so what does that say about Trump? especially considering his disapproval rating is about 4 times higher.

Sarah Huckabee Sanders has defended herself against accusations of lying to the American public after Robert Mueller’s report refuted several statements she previously made to the media.
The White House press secretary joined Good Morning America a day after the report was released, where she was grilled about her previous claims that “countless” members of the FBI told her they were dissatisfied with James Comey’s leadership at the agency before he was fired by Donald Trump.

The report said those comments were “not founded on anything” and that Ms Sanders told investigators they were a “slip of the tongue.”

Ms Sanders said during a 10 May press briefing that the president “had countless conversations with members from within the FBI” and ultimately determined “the rank and file of the FBI had lost confidence in their director.”
She then told reporters the following day, “I have heard from countless members of the FBI that are grateful and thankful for the president’s decision and I think we may have to agree to disagree.”

pritch

21st April 2019, 11:19

There is a lot of angst being expressed on US social media. The fact that Mueller excused any prosecution of Donald Trump Junior about his meeting with the Russians because he didn't know what he was doing is at odds with what we're all told about ignorance of the law being no excuse. Trump Jr is being compared to the woman who voted while on probation. She was unaware that's against the law where she lives and she got five years jail. This is interpreted as one law for the rich and another for the rest of us.

According to US lawyers there are two areas of US law where it is sometimes necessary to prove intent: taxation law, and electoral law. Mueller concluded that a defence team would have no problem convincing a jury that Junior is as dumb as a sack full of rocks and had no appreciation that what he was doing was illegal. Mueller's assessment is borne out by Junior's jubilant celebration of his innocence.

One worry, Democrats are comforted by the thought of the fourteen investigations and indictments that Mueller left ongoing. Twelve of the indictments are sealed which means the charges and who they effect are secret. They also freeze time as concerns any statute of limitations considerations. It's too soon for the Dems to celebrate though, all of those charges are under the control of Barr the Attorney General who has already demonstrated he is operating as Trumps personal lawyer rather than heading up the Justice Dept for the people of the USA. The only ongoing matters beyond Barr's direct reach are any brought by the Attorneys General of the States of New York or New Jersey.

husaberg

21st April 2019, 12:08

Donald Trump takes credit for inventing the word 'fake'
President says he ‘never noticed’ the word before he started using it to describe the media.
“I think one of the greatest of all terms I’ve come up with is ‘fake'," he said.
“I guess other people have used it, perhaps, over the years, but I’ve never noticed it."

Donald the word is not new, its been around for 4 centuries at least, likely more

jasonu

21st April 2019, 12:50

husaberg

21st April 2019, 15:41

What a couple of been nowhere done nothing spend all day wanking on the internet pea brains.

Hey Jason do you know what a trump voter who calls other people stupid is called?

jasonu

21st April 2019, 17:40

Hey Jason do you know what a trump voter who calls other people stupid is called?

I'm sure you will be along soon enough with many cut and pastes to tell me.

husaberg

21st April 2019, 18:34

I'm sure you will be along soon enough with many cut and pastes to tell me.

Its a serious question, what are trump suporters that call other people stupid called?
I see the calls to impeach Trump dont seem to be going away.
Maybe that Muller report didn't exonerate him as much as he thought afterall?

Laava

21st April 2019, 19:02

Hey Jason do you know what a trump voter who calls other people stupid is called?
A Trumpkof?

husaberg

22nd April 2019, 09:16

A Trumpkof?
Maybe but 1 out of 3 Trump voters are just as stupid as the other 2.

pritch

22nd April 2019, 10:54

Maybe but 1 out of 3 Trump voters are just as stupid as the other 2.

It's rapidly becoming obvious that only one side of the US political divide is reading the Mueller report. Trump obviously didn't read something four hundred odd pages in length, he never has, and he isn't about to start now.

To get the inbred, home schooled, MAGAts to read it maybe they should have published it as a comic.

slofox

23rd April 2019, 15:16

Trump is not a white supremacist - he's an orange supremacist...(hats off to my phlebotomist)

husaberg

3rd June 2019, 12:18

What does Donald Trump's hair and a thong have in common?
They both barely cover the asshole.

jasonu

3rd June 2019, 14:16

What’s does Donald Trump’s hair and a thong have in common?
They both barely cover the asshole.

actually thats not bad...

husaberg

22nd June 2019, 19:08

https://storage1.grabien.com/clipsbank/0344/framelarge/344843.jpg

austingtir

22nd June 2019, 19:28

Its funny when marxists likes husaberk dont even realize Trump is trolling the shit out of them....

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1142157838153895941

https://www.godlikeproductions.com/sm/custom/0bc189b181.jpg

Berries

22nd June 2019, 19:43

Its funny when marxists likes husaberk dont even realize Trump is trolling the shit out of them....

Even funnier when you don't realise you are being trolled yourself you Trump arse licker.

austingtir

22nd June 2019, 19:47

Even funnier when you don't realise you are being trolled yourself you Trump arse licker.

http://i.imgur.com/FL5p5hi.gif

austingtir

22nd June 2019, 20:01

Husaberk trying to make fun of Trump:

https://steemitimages.com/p/cyxkEVqiiLyABTyiQZVGWxDC5qvNM4qkUwSafgVRHWSPqTszxW aRfiDVEGuyo2bwpjefPj597FycPQ31cZRgqoJXsZn2uiieAzDp s6jvgcKxbJLjiUpKBGE6tfUzvosbYvR?format=match&mode=fit

husaberg

22nd June 2019, 20:03

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/06/43/55/0643558055f0c66848ff7c8decb2ce30.jpg

F5 Dave

22nd June 2019, 21:12

So why is he only showing 1 post?

And besides Jesus and his demons will take you to hell and bum you. And you'll like it,

Fuking fruitcake.

pritch

22nd June 2019, 21:19

https://i.pinimg.com/236x/06/43/55/0643558055f0c66848ff7c8decb2ce30.jpg

As idiotic as it is, he has trotted that out more than once since. Of course Abe Lincoln and JFK might disagree.

husaberg

22nd June 2019, 21:37

So why is he only showing 1 post?

And besides Jesus and his demons will take you to hell and bum you. And you'll like it,

Fuking fruitcake.

1 post well hes not exactly batting with a full wicket is he..

As idiotic as it is, he has trotted that out more than once since. Of course Abe Lincoln and JFK might disagree.

I watched some episodes of the West wing on on demand
I think Trump thinks hes in that tv show and he is Martin Sheen.
Only he acts more like Charlie sheen with a nose full of powder
https://img.memecdn.com/Charlie-Sheens-Winning-Face_o_116791.jpg

austingtir

23rd June 2019, 11:29

"Inform the senate Daddy's battle station is fully operational!"

https://magaimg.net/img/89q5.jpg

husaberg

23rd June 2019, 11:32

https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Donald-Trump-on-The-View-640x433.png

Trump Told Stormy Daniels ‘You Remind Me Of’ Ivanka — Right Before Sex

When asked what he and his daughter both consider their favorite things, Trump answered, “I was going to say sex, but I can relate to golf and real estate.

Yeah, she’s really something, and what a beauty, that one. If I weren’t happily married and, ya know, her father….”

“Is it wrong to be more sexually attracted to your own daughter than your wife?”

Laava

23rd June 2019, 11:35

https://www.cheatsheet.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/Donald-Trump-on-The-View-640x433.png
They're probably just fuckbuddies.

austingtir

23rd June 2019, 11:35

Id of said that if she was my daughter!

She's hot as!

https://cdn.4archive.org/img/WaJ4Cyr.jpg

pritch

23rd June 2019, 11:43

Id of said that if she was my daughter!

"I'd have said" would actually be English.

austingtir

23rd June 2019, 11:45

"I'd have said" would actually be English.

LOL you people are so triggered its hilarious.:banana:

husaberg

23rd June 2019, 11:48

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4Zdx97A63s

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3dGVXmuLmEM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xecEV4dSAXE

jasonu

23rd June 2019, 18:01

Id of said that if she was my daughter!

She's hot as!

https://cdn.4archive.org/img/WaJ4Cyr.jpg

Nout wrong with that boyo.

pritch

23rd June 2019, 19:32

LOL you people are so triggered its hilarious.:banana:

Triggered? Hardly.

Observing social media creates a distinct impression that Trump supporters tend to be semi literate. You're doing nothing much to dispel that impression.

This clip has had a second life on social media due to Judge Moore's intention to run for the senate again. It's just as popular second time around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0

Laava

23rd June 2019, 19:43

Triggered? Hardly.

Observing social media creates a distinct impression that Trump supporters tend to be semi literate. You're doing nothing much to dispel that impression.

This clip has had a second life on social media due to Judge Moore's intention to run for the senate again. It's just as popular second time around.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WFYRkzznsc0
Fuck me that guy is retarded! "You have to swear on the barbel"

husaberg

9th September 2019, 19:02

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=voYuH5eGlkk
You have to watch the cat 5 stuff to believe it.

Drew

10th September 2019, 15:11

I have often said that people should need to be qualified to vote. There should be a minimum level of understanding of policy before you have a say.

Then I look at trump. That fucktard isn't qualified to tie his fucken laces! He's going to make an interesting case study when he is out in the care facility methinks

austingtir

13th September 2019, 18:02

F5 Dave

13th September 2019, 20:22

austingtir

13th September 2019, 20:33

Sorry? Are you trying to compare Jacinda to Trump? Bwahahaha.

I certainly didn't vote for Labour but Jesus Butt Fuking Khrist!!

I'd vote for Lucifer before Trump, she's not even in the same league. At least Lucifer would know he's evil. Trump is too stoopid. In an intelligence test she would rag the poor deluded fool senseless.

But so would Colin Craig or Brian Tamiki.

AhhDuhh.

You can unclutch your pearls....

And I would vote for Trump if I could anyday over Jacinda. She's a flake and is not leadership material. You can say what you like about Trump but he is a leader and currently leader of the greatest country in the world.

And how exactly is Trump evil?

Laava

13th September 2019, 23:20

You can unclutch your pearls....

And I would vote for Trump if I could anyday over Jacinda. She's a flake and is not leadership material. You can say what you like about Trump but he is a leader and currently leader of the greatest country in the world.

And how exactly is Trump evil?
Uh-oh someones gettin all uptight about his beloved being slagged off again!

austingtir

14th September 2019, 08:00

Uh-oh someones gettin all uptight about his beloved being slagged off again!

No im just calling you lot out for your obvious TDS.

If you think I get triggered by anything on here your going to be sadly mistaken.

Laava

14th September 2019, 08:22

Whatever Cletus

F5 Dave

14th September 2019, 08:55

, . . . You can say what you like about Trump
, . . . Um, yeah. We did.

And how exactly is Trump evil?
Rampant blatant liar.
Attack politics
Sides with white supremacist groups
Sides with religious groups
Happy to degrade and reduce the rights of 1/2 the inhabitants of the greatest country in the world (shock news, 1/2 the world are women)

austingtir

14th September 2019, 09:02

, . . . Um, yeah. We did.

Rampant blatant liar.
Attack politics
Sides with white supremacist groups
Sides with religious groups
Happy to degrade and reduce the rights of 1/2 the inhabitants of the greatest country in the world (shock news, 1/2 the world are women)

The media portrays him as a liar but imo he's been pretty straight up said what he's going to do and done it. That gets globalist and communists knickers in a twist... yes it does.

Which white supremacist groups has he supported exactly?

Sides with (christian) religious groups? Thats evil these days ?? OK then.:corn::corn::corn::violin::violin::violin:

Last one is absolute rubbish aswell as the first one.

Came to see rampant TDS response. Leaving satisfied.

husaberg

14th September 2019, 12:47

"You want to see a bird cemetery? Go under a windmill sometime."

You will see the saddest, you got every type of bird. You know, in California you go to jail for five years if you kill a bald eagle. You go under a windmill, you see them all over the place. Not a good situation.

"It's Friday. How many bald eagles did wind turbines kill today? They are an environmental & aesthetic disaster."

"Windmills are the greatest threat in the US to both bald and golden eagles. Media claims fictional ‘global warming’ is worse."

"Wind Power Company Fined $1 Million for Killing Birds. Golden eagles among victims"...http://nyti.ms/1jwe8be

And when the wind stops blowing, it doesn’t make any difference, does it? Unlike those big windmills that destroy everybody’s property values, kill all the birds. Someday, the environmentalists are going to tell us what’s going on with that. And then, all of a sudden, it stops; the wind and the televisions go off. And your wives and husbands say, “Darling, I want to watch Donald Trump on television tonight.”

If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations: Your house just went down 75% in value. And they say the noise causes cancer. You tell me that one, OK? Rrrrr, rrrrr... you know the thing that makes the... it’s so noisy. And of course it’s like a graveyard for birds. If you love birds, you’d never want to walk under a windmill because it’s a very sad, sad sight. It’s like a cemetery. We put a little, we put a little statue for the poor birds. It’s true.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jWGC6ogXSzY<iframe src="https://giphy.com/embed/iSzI8gEol5mXS" width="480" height="270" frameBorder="0" class="giphy-embed" allowFullScreen></iframe><p><a href="https://giphy.com/gifs/trump-eagle-stops-iSzI8gEol5mXS"></a></p>

To date, not a single Republican has come out to support Trump’s assertion that wind causes cancer — although several have attacked him over it.
The two Republican senators for Iowa, Chuck Grassley and Joni Ernst, who have generally been supportive of the president, called his claims “idiotic” and “ridiculous”, respectively.
“I would say it’s ridiculous. It’s ridiculous,” Ernst told local media. “I have church bells that ring all the time across from my office here in [Washington] DC and I know that noise doesn’t give me cancer, otherwise I’d have ‘church bell cancer’.”

Although wind farms do kill some birds (approximately 20,000 a year, according to a 2009 study), they kill significantly fewer birds than nuclear plants (approx. 330,000 deaths) and fossil fuel power plants (more than 14 million deaths).

Wind power is now the cheapest form of new energy in the US, together with utility-scale PV, and according to AWEA, 86% of the wind-power capacity installed in the US last year was made by turbine manufacturers with at least one American factory.

WHY DOES TRUMP HATE WIND POWER?
Commentators and wind-power executives believe that President Trump’s hatred of wind turbines stems from his ultimately unsuccessful and costly attempts to prevent an “ugly” offshore wind farm being built near his Trump International Golf Links course in northeast Scotland.

As one senior wind supply executive told Recharge: “He lost in Scotland. Now he is acting like a little boy.”
From 2010, when the 11-turbine European Offshore Wind Deployment Centre (EOWDC) in Aberdeen Bay was given the go-ahead by the Crown Estate, Trump campaigned aggressively against it.
In typical Trump style, he lambasted the then Scottish First Minister Alex Salmond as “Mad Alex” and said Scotland would become a “third world wasteland” due to the “monsters” (ie, wind turbines) being installed in and off Scotland.
He then went on to tell a Scottish parliamentary committee that wind farms would “destroy” Scottish tourism, and when asked for supporting evidence, replied: “I am the evidence, I am considered a world-class expert in tourism.”
After multiple legal appeals in the Scottish courts, which delayed the project for several years, the UK Supreme Court finally ruled against Trump in December 2015.
In response to the ruling, the Trump Organisation released a statement that said: “History will judge those involved unfavourably and the outcome demonstrates the foolish, small-minded and parochial mentality which dominates the current Scottish government’s dangerous experiment with wind energy.”
In March this year, Scotland’s supreme civil court, the Court of Session, ruled that Trump International Golf Links must pay the Scottish government’s legal costs for three years’ worth of appeals.
The sum it had to pay was not disclosed.

pritch

14th September 2019, 14:35

And how exactly is Trump evil?

Oh let me count the ways..

How about the separation of babies and children from their parents?

Putting those babies up for adoption for profit.

In the last day or so he has threatened to round up the homeless in San Francisco and other major cities and put them in camps. He seems to like concentration camps. Not sure if he'll feel the same about the Trump Guantanamo.

His support of murderous dictators and his desire to emulate them.

His support of Israel's criminal policies in Palestine.

A lot of the other shit he does isn't notably evil, he's just a low level conman who accidentally hit the big time.

pritch

14th September 2019, 14:58

[QUOTE=husaberg;1131141127
In March this year, Scotland’s supreme civil court, the Court of Session, ruled that Trump International Golf Links must pay the Scottish government’s legal costs for three years’ worth of appeals.
The sum it had to pay was not disclosed.[/QUOTE]

Trump told the British government that if they tried to enforce the court ordered costs the trade negotiations would be effected. Like the mini mafia don he would like to be.

I read a few days back that fifty one coal mines have closed since Trump was elected. One mine recently got the staff to load a train with coal then announced that the mine was closing but that there was no money for severance payments. Last I saw the former staff were camped on the railway line to stop the train moving.

Thousands of truckers have gone out of business and rail rolling stock is parked up on sidings going nowhere. Soy is rotting on the farms, nobody wants to buy US corn. Mexico used to buy it but when Trump made his feelings known they went elsewhere. Farmers are going broke. So much winning.

Drew

14th September 2019, 18:56

You probably voted for Jacinda. And even if you didnt a country gets the government it deserves so you should look in the mirror....

Sooo, it's as much your fault as anyone else's?

oldrider

14th September 2019, 20:33

NZ got the government option that it deserved but then the minor parties decided that they would (because they could) give NZ the government that "they" thought NZ wanted. - :shit:

MMP does not "elect" a government it simply gives the politicians "permission" to select a government of "their choice" answerable only to themselves. - :shifty:

MMP is essentially a form of "lucky dip politics" - like Forest Gump's box of chocolates - you never know what your going to get? - :msn-wink:

Drew

15th September 2019, 07:45

husaberg

15th September 2019, 12:15

Precisely why I do not vote.

That along with not being Americant seeing as this is the Trump said stupid things thread.......

pritch

15th September 2019, 12:30

You can say what you like about Trump

Oh yes. I also frequently mention things I don't like about Trump. There's just so much material.

husaberg

2nd November 2019, 11:02

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austingtir

2nd November 2019, 20:57

^^

http://i.imgur.com/qVbKG7n.gif

Banditbandit

4th November 2019, 09:58

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mashman

4th November 2019, 15:51

Coronation street politics.

"Blame the leader."

"Ok he's gone and we've got a new one. Things will change."

"What happened? We need a new leader.".

"What? You were singing their praises the other day, what happened?".

"Well things haven't changed, so it must be his fault.".

"You do realise that you have a body called congress that can override anything that the president says right? and that they've been there far longer than the new guy, right? as well as having been there before the guy before the current guy, and the guy before him and actually the guy before him too, and the next one. Those guys haven't really changed.'.

"Of course."

"So why are you picking on the new guy and not electing new representatives to congress?".

"A ship is only as good as its captain."

... and scene, good show ladies and gentlemen.

Trump lovers and haters are kind of missing the point. Whether he's there or not is pretty much irrelevant, the song remains the saaaaaa eeeaaaaaa eeeeeeaaaaa eeeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame.

husaberg

10th November 2019, 13:09

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husaberg

9th December 2019, 16:33

Stolen from Bandit

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yi-9Q1XDqU

husaberg

9th December 2019, 16:41

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ictmTiF543A
Trumps million dollar Welch on bet for charity.

austingtir

9th December 2019, 22:18

Trumps got a long ways to go before he gets this demented.

https://mobile.twitter.com/bennyjohnson/status/1203449164010528768

Banditbandit

12th December 2019, 10:50

"right now, in a number of states, the laws allow a baby to be born from his or her mother's womb in the ninth month. It is wrong, it has to change."

https://mashable.com/2018/01/19/trump-march-for-life-childbirth/

husaberg

12th December 2019, 12:09

husaberg

24th December 2019, 20:12

Trump

“I never understood wind. I know windmills very much, I have studied it better than anybody,” he said.
“I know it is very expensive. They are made in China and Germany mostly, very few made here, almost none, but they are manufactured, tremendous
– if you are into this – tremendous fumes and gases are spewing into the atmosphere. You know we have a world, right?”
"So, the world is tiny compared to the universe," he concluded

# Note There's over 4000 people employed building vestas windmills and towers in pueblo Colorado, the largest windmill manufacturing plant in the world.
Nearly 20,000 American workers at over 500 factories across 43 states now build wind turbine parts and materials.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec9P3C1OXqE
In April this year, the President said "If you have a windmill anywhere near your house, congratulations.
"they say the noise causes cancer."

Trump has had it out for wind power since turbines were proposed off the coast of Scotland within sight of his golf resort near Aberdeen in the UK.