Wsbk 2019

[Dadpole]

Since we do not seem to have a thread..

:woohoo: We MAY have a good season coming up judging by race 1.

[pritch]

Note the earlier start time tomorrow

[SaferRides]

Note the earlier start time tomorrowTwo races for the price of one.

[actungbaby]

I chould not find it on sky guide what channel please

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[Drew]

Fuck I was stoked yesterday, except for Haslam. Thought he was gonna do great now he has a decent factory ride.
Instead he does exactly what fucked Davies from the get go last year.

[rustys]

Bloody hell, J Rea making stupid piss weak coments again, going on about saying he was riding at 60% the rest of the field must have been to then, he can't handle being beaten, what racer rides at 60%.
About time Bautista got a decent ride under his arse, what a win.

[pritch]

I chould not find it on sky guide what channel please



It doesn't show on the Internet programme guide, but it is on the programme guide on your TV. It's one of the pop-up channels.

[roogazza]

I chould not find it on sky guide what channel please

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Channel 55 yesterday,but you have to watch the Electronic guide .Forget that Sky Book !

ps sorry pritch we must have been typing together lol

[SaferRides]

Bloody hell, J Rea making stupid piss weak coments again, going on about saying he was riding at 60% the rest of the field must have been to then, he can't handle being beaten, what racer rides at 60%.
About time Bautista got a decent ride under his arse, what a win.Yeah, what was all that crap about making the rear tyre last the race being the main goal?

I did have a quiet laugh before the race when the commentators were talking about what it would take for different riders to win. No one mentioned the obvious for Rea.

[pritch]

Yeah, what was all that crap about making the rear tyre last the race being the main goal?


Before the race the pundits acknowledged that Bautista was fastest but wondered if his tyres would last race distance. The commentators kept referring to that during the race - but Bautista just kept increasing his lead. Fifteen seconds worth! Rea is not used to that treatment.

Tyres are a concern at Phillip Island though, thus the compulsory tyre change in the SSP race. Unlike MotoGP these guys only have the one bike IIRC, so the pit crews will really earn their pay today.

[mulletman]

Got the video pass today ;)

[Dadpole]

That was the best WSBK weekend I have seen for years, if only for what it may mean for the rest of the season. If you do not know the results look away.....














HA HA - No spoilers here...

Could Rea finally have some real opposition? If Alvaro and the Duc are not competitive at some tracks then Haslam should be and a swarm of Yamahas not too far behind. :banana:

[pritch]

The commentators annoyed me a bit with their repeated postulating: was it Bautista being a PI specialist, was it the power of the Ducati, or just possibly it was his ability?

Phillip Island is known as a track that favours the brave and minimises a horsepower disadvantage.

OK, Bautista was out in front on his own, but the rest of the guys on the same equipment weren't out there with him, they were back in the field. Unlike the Kawasakis who looked to be joined at the hip.

Bautista was good on 125s and 250s but he never really had top kit in MotoGP, now that he seems to have a competitive bike we just might get to see how good he can be.

He might not have the same advantage, whatever it was, on other tracks but at least we should be spared a succession of Rea led processions.

The bosses back in Bologna will be pleased with their new V4 anyway. Prosecco all round?

[SaferRides]

Now we know why Ducati wanted Bautista in WSBK. Shit, those V4's are quick with someone who knows how to ride them onboard. He was running MotoGP pace for the first few laps. Probably not worrying about losing the front into Turn 1 helps.

[roogazza]

The commentators annoyed me a bit with their repeated postulating: was it Bautista being a PI specialist, was it the power of the Ducati, or just possibly it was his ability?

Bautista was good on 125s and 250s but he never really had top kit in MotoGP, now that he seems to have a competitive bike we just might get to see how good he can be.


I often wish the Comms would just back it off a bit pritch. The constant flapping pisses me off too.
(hey we're experts too and can see whats what ? ) :lol:

Yes ,he was good on the two smaller classes 125,250 ! I sat and had a good chat one year to his Trainer.
LOL , he was the one that reckoned Horhay was a bit 'Thick' !! :yes::eek5:,

Wait till we've had couple of races, I agree.

[Drew]

I put q bit of hope in Bautista when he went to the big class. Alas he never got a bike capable of winning.

[pritch]

I put q bit of hope in Bautista when he went to the big class. Alas he never got a bike capable of winning.

You, me, and I think Pete was on board as well. When he went to MotoGP there were only four seats that could win and he didn’t have one of them.

[actungbaby]

I cant say about others here,but watching honda sbk boys at back field is diffcult to watch.please replace that piece of @:;; bike.
Its brillent road bike but no good as racebike.
Exellent to see Ducati v4 win on depute, even rc 30 had few probs first season. And rea not got all his own way got so boring.

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[pritch]

I cant say about others here,but watching honda sbk boys at back field is diffcult to watch.please replace that piece of @:;; bike.


Fair comment. They have a completely new team to try and improve their results, but being a totally new outfit it may take time. Then again, there's the old thing about trying to make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.

This article is good but I think he's missing a major point. He proposes that the Ducati is so superior that there may be a rule change. Thing is there was only one Ducati out front, the rest were back in the pack. OK the Ducati revs higher, but that's why Ducati have persevered with Desmodromic valves since like, forever.

Win on Sunday, sell on Monday is the old mantra, but at somewhat north of 66,000 of our Pacific peso's we may not see *that* many on the road.

http://ontrackoffroad.com/2019/02/26/wow-just-wow/

[actungbaby]

Yes did read about new team.
With hrc backing too.
Very cool woman running it as well. Yes as you say, other dukes back in field. Good to see yamahas going well.but hard work in. Racing is good so thats main thing. I read where its the british imu? Well the system there using. Nicky hadfen chouldint get to work. He went better on old bike.i thought ducati v4 s was 33 k. Still alot money i have win lotto.
What u think the sprint format seems good idea,i cant understand wss pit stop seems bit silly.

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[pritch]

i cant understand wss pit stop seems bit silly.


That was a one-off because the WSS tyres were not considered to be safe for race distance at Phillip Island. Since the track was resurfaced a few years ago the surface has been very abrasive and wears tyres more than normal. In the interest of safety: the race distance was cut by a couple of laps, and the compulsory tyre change was introduced.

[Dadpole]

Why tyre manufacturers want to be involved baffles me sometimes. Riders want a tyre that offers lots of grip and lots of life. You can chose one only.

[actungbaby]

Thats good call, do you know what happen to wss champion kerian surglofew. Turkish guy.

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[malcy25]

Thats good call, do you know what happen to wss champion kerian surglofew. Turkish guy.

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Retired Mid 2018 season after being hurt again.

[Dadpole]

Wasn't it a broken pelvis - again? :eek5: I was happy to see him retire while he could still walk.

[pritch]

Wasn't it a broken pelvis - again? :eek5: I was happy to see him retire while he could still walk.

Sofuoglu had his successes but in the background there were the injuries and more than his share of tragedy with the death of his father and then later, his baby died.

IIRC he has been mentoring other Turkish riders like Toprak Razgatlioglu? (And yeah I did have to look that up to spell it.)

[actungbaby]

Yes i was never going spell it.
He was very good winning championships. Read where got another child know, must been tough, amazing how carried on.
Great got out in one piece.

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[mulletman]

Alvaro is showing them how its done again leading FP1 just from JR.

[roogazza]

If you have Sky, tonight 2130 and then tomoro Night from 1830.

As you were. :scooter:

[pritch]

Bautista is still a bit of a puzzle. The commentators mention the power of his bike but presumably the other Ducatis make similar power. The Yamahas ride around like they are joined together, sometimes too the Kawasakis. The other Ducs though are back in the field - if still upright.

Last night it looked as if there aren't as many passing lanes in Thailand as at Phllip Island, the sprint race could be a bunfight.

[Drew]

Bautista is just better at the moment. Might end up like Foggy, but I doubt it.

[roogazza]

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For anyone interested ?
I take it Damon Rees is the fastest we have nowdays ?
Aussie was always a tougher nut to crack.

[Drew]

341363

For anyone interested ?
I take it Damon Rees is the fastest we have nowdays ?
Aussie was always a tougher nut to crack.

Damon and Mitch are at the point end. Scott Moir, one of the Hoogy boys, and Sloan are there or there abouts.
Shane Richardson is better than all of them, hense he's racing in England and the States.

[roogazza]

cheers Drew, Remember Richardson's dad or Uncle in older days and saw Shane was doin something in the USA. Local stuff has dropped off on Kiwibiker and thats the only medium I look at here.
Not much Interest in the last NZsbk round either on KB (maybe elsewhere ?).

[steveyb]

Cormac Buchanan is currently the highest placed Kiwi in ASBK classes.

[Drew]

Cormac Buchanan is currently the highest placed Kiwi in ASBK classes.

Not on a superbike he's not.

[steveyb]

You not read england good?

In ASBK classes!

Clearly the junior classes rate no mention over here cos no one actually gives a flying fucq, but over there they are giving them plenty of airtime and are investing in junior development.

[pritch]

They take their racing seriously in Costa Rica too. This resulted in a couple of two year bans.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827721-motorcycle-racers-marion-calvo-jorge-martinez-suspended-after-fight-on-video

[Reckless]

They take their racing seriously in Costa Rica too. This resulted in a couple of two year bans.

https://bleacherreport.com/articles/2827721-motorcycle-racers-marion-calvo-jorge-martinez-suspended-after-fight-on-video

That went Viral LOL was a bit of a laugh till they took it onto a live race track.

[russd7]

Cormac Buchanan is currently the highest placed Kiwi in ASBK classes.

that young lad is going to be a real loss to solo bikes but he is certainly a talented young fella, been watching him come up through the ranks at Oreti park.
lots of local pride in Cormac.

[roogazza]

I see the huge French lad " Baz " has signed with Ten Kate Yamaha,wonder how he will go ?

Didn't go too bad in his last few rides on the Kawa 10 before going GP as I recall ??

[pritch]

I see the huge French lad " Baz " has signed with Ten Kate Yamaha,wonder how he will go ?
Didn't go too bad in his last few rides on the Kawa 10 before going GP as I recall ??

Some hereabout seem to dislike a rider or riders. Usually I like everybody but Baz may just be an exception, I didn't much admire his behaviour a few seasons back.

I suppose I went off Hector Barbera when he reportedly smacked his missus too.

Pleased to see Ten Kate back. Honda moving their support to another team hasn't done much for them so far. It's early days but their bike is not getting any younger.

The recent SKY HD upgrade has affected the recording of SBK, if you had it set to record automatically you've probably lost that setting and will need to set it again.

[roogazza]

Some hereabout seem to dislike a rider or riders. Usually I like everybody but Baz may just be an exception, I didn't much admire his behaviour a few seasons back.

I suppose I went off Hector Barbera when he reportedly smacked his missus too.

Pleased to see Ten Kate back. Honda moving their support to another team hasn't done much for them so far. It's early days but their bike is not getting any younger.

The recent SKY HD upgrade has affected the recording of SBK, if you had it set to record automatically you've probably lost that setting and will need to set it again.

I have normal Sky not the 'my Sky' you'll have seen them giving us practice etc etc .Bautista reeled off a fast lap that was well clear and then Lowes of all people closed it to .5 of a second. No matter lets wait for the racing !!!!!

did Baz upset someone ? I know he refused to back off for Sykes at one stage,is that why he moved teams ?
I didn't know about Barbera ?? :confused:

enjoy the racing !!! I like Aragon as a track.

[Dadpole]

Baz took out team mate Sykes in a race. Baz said "Racing incident" Sykes had a hissy fit and refused to speak to or acknowledge the existence of Baz the rest of the season. :girlfight:
Baz refused to move over in one race and moved over (big theatrical style) in a later race.

Baz is a top lad in my book. :2thumbsup

[BMWST?]

have the Ducatis been knocked back a few hundred rpm?.There must be a few people in the motogp paddock surely who rue not picking up Bautista.

[pritch]

have the Ducatis been knocked back a few hundred rpm?.There must be a few people in the motogp paddock surely who rue not picking up Bautista.

I haven't read that it has happened but it was due to come up for consideration. There was discussion among the pundits though and the thought seemed to be that while Bautista is very quick the others are back in the field, so penalising the bike seemed premature.

[pritch]

If consideration is to be given to handicapping the Ducati this weekend Davies' timing might have been better?

[roogazza]

Leg 2. So same again, Bautista romps away, Rea paces himself ready to fight for 2nd place.

Maybe the oposition need to bring out Homol specials like the Duc ??? :lol::rolleyes::msn-wink:

At least we don't have the handicap races like last year I suppose ? (win the first leg and put 9th on grid for the 2nd.).:weird:

[BMWST?]

good race three,with Lowes Davies Rea and Haslam mixing it up just about the whole race .Bautista was there too,but i wont give the whole sshow away.Chaz is looking very good now,i predict there will be some Ducati 1-2s coming up.Will Honda be the first to homolagate an insane v4?

[pritch]

Shakey Byrne (6 X BSB champ) made a couple of interesting points about the Duc. Like us he comments that it's still really only one Ducati out front. He also says that the margin Bautista is winning by is greater than any performace advantage the Ducati has. I guess that means he really rates Bautista. Hard not to on his current form.

Was sorry to read Ana Carasco hit the deck. Will watch the races after the news.

[husaberg]

Shakey Byrne (6 X BSB champ) made a couple of interesting points about the Duc. Like us he comments that it's still really only one Ducati out front. He also says that the margin Bautista is winning by is greater than any performace advantage the Ducati has. I guess that means he really rates Bautista. Hard not to on his current form.

Was sorry to read Ana Carasco hit the deck. Will watch the races after the news.

There was a ploy by Ducati in the 90's of only gradually increasing the CC and performance of the 851,888,916,955,998 so to not to loose to much of the weight and cc advantages they originally had.
Considering how many times the 750 fours actually won, it sure was a well played out strategy.
Anyone who remembers seeing Raymond Roche let loose the 888 at Mansfield before it disemboweled itself (in front of F5 dave), can attest it was a shit load faster than any of the fours.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2s0PdE0dD0

[steveyb]

Shakey Byrne (6 X BSB champ) made a couple of interesting points about the Duc. Like us he comments that it's still really only one Ducati out front. He also says that the margin Bautista is winning by is greater than any performace advantage the Ducati has. I guess that means he really rates Bautista. Hard not to on his current form.

Was sorry to read Ana Carasco hit the deck. Will watch the races after the news.

Yes, very much. Especially after she set a new lap record and was fastest by some distance.

[actungbaby]

good race three,with Lowes Davies Rea and Haslam mixing it up just about the whole race .Bautista was there too,but i wont give the whole sshow away.Chaz is looking very good now,i predict there will be some Ducati 1-2s coming up.Will Honda be the first to homolagate an insane v4?Not sure they need too. But been waiting years for the v4.
Not sure make much sence though. Market small for these pocket rockets. And they just take away promo from the blade.
Which is crap as race bike.

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[mulletman]

Rev limit change for Dukes and Honda

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/917365/1/ducati-hit-rev-limit-drop-honda-handed-increase

[pritch]

Will Honda be the first to homolagate an insane v4?

Not sure about "insane" but it would seem Ducati already did.

[Drew]

Honda have a platform of sorts in the VFR. They're the most likely of the Japanese brands to do it from a cost point of view.

Are Blades so widely admired as road bikes that they couldn't be canned? Doubt it, bland bits of shit from my experience.

[Autech]

Considering Honda's history making awesome V4 engines I'm keen to see if they can bring something to market, got to have the demand as mentioned above so unless they shit can the CBR I can't see the money going into developing it.

[pritch]

Honda have a platform of sorts in the VFR. They're the most likely of the Japanese brands to do it from a cost point of view.

Are Blades so widely admired as road bikes that they couldn't be canned? Doubt it, bland bits of shit from my experience.

Way back somebody at Honda had a thing about V4s but the VFR, although it can claim some Superbike genes, it couldn't be made competitive now. It's already as big as it can get in its current form, if they try and enlarge the bore they'll strike water.
Which is why it's 782cc which isn't exactly a round number.

Anybody who thinks a 'Blade is bland has *very* high standards. What the Hell do you ride, a Y2K?

[Drew]

Anybody who thinks a 'Blade is bland has *very* high standards. What the Hell do you ride, a Y2K?

I ride a whale by comparison. But ride any other thou, then ride any blade ya can find. They're dull.

[Runty]

I ride a whale by comparison. But ride any other thou, then ride any blade ya can find. They're dull.Yea - I often think "Gee - this is dull" when i park my blade up and wait for my mates to catch up on their ZX10's and GSXR
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[mulletman]

Race 1 postponed cause of weather..

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/917715/1/assen-world-superbike-race-one-cancelled-snow

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/917725/1/world-superbike-confirms-new-assen-schedule

[roogazza]

Well that buggered up my copying last night, an hour of babble instead of Race 1.

[Dadpole]

That means a mammoth viewing session tonight and MotoGP tomorrow. Oh the hardship....

[actungbaby]

Yeah what a dick my 919 is anything but boring.

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[pritch]

Yeah what a dick my 919 is anything but boring.


My favourite bike ever.

[pritch]

Well that buggered up my copying last night, an hour of babble instead of Race 1.

Like Daves said though if they'd tried to race there'd have been broken bikes and broken riders. The tyres would have been nowhere near up to operating temperature. I hope they can do better tomorrow.

[mulletman]

AB still smashing em.

[roogazza]

Like Daves said though if they'd tried to race there'd have been broken bikes and broken riders. The tyres would have been nowhere near up to operating temperature. I hope they can do better tomorrow.

I still missed the first leg completely with all the weather and cancelling. Got the 2nd leg this morn tho.

[Autech]

So do you guys think Rea is getting everything out of that bike and there's nothing he can do to beat AB?

[roogazza]

So do you guys think Rea is getting everything out of that bike and there's nothing he can do to beat AB?

I think so, but the combination of Bautista and the rocketship once in front, can pull away. Davies is up there on his Duc now.
How long before they nobble the 16100rpm rev limit of the Duc ?? Others at what 14 ????

Yamahas have improved their horsepower as well.

[pritch]

How long before they nobble the 16100rpm rev limit of the Duc ?? Others at what 14 ????



I think they've already docked the Ducati 250rpm. Honda got an increase. Somebody published a full list of each makes permitted RPM.

This is what the limits were before they were fiddled with this weekend.
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/world-superbike-maximum-rev-limits-set-for-new-2019-models/

[Autech]

I think they've already docked the Ducati 250rpm. Honda got an increase. Somebody published a full list of each makes permitted RPM.

This is what the limits were before they were fiddled with this weekend.
https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/world-superbike-maximum-rev-limits-set-for-new-2019-models/

I think unless the other Dukes starting killing it they wont do much as it could be argued that he's the only one doing well on it, time will tell but I don't think it would worry him too much losing some revs, he's got the good stuff

[pritch]

I think unless the other Dukes starting killing it they wont do much as it could be argued that he's the only one doing well on it, time will tell but I don't think it would worry him too much losing some revs, he's got the good stuff


That's what we thought, but the reports say they got docked 250rpm anyway.

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/world-superbike-fim-lowers-maximum-rpm-limit-for-ducati-panigale-v4-r/

[roogazza]

That's what we thought, but the reports say they got docked 250rpm anyway.

https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/world-superbike-fim-lowers-maximum-rpm-limit-for-ducati-panigale-v4-r/

Maybe we're looking at a guy who's a step above pritch.?
Duc is fast and that just makes it look worse ?

(the way I was riding today,I could of had him I reckon !!!!!! Nah not really !!!!:yawn::yes::innocent::corn::shutup:

[BMWST?]

i think i saw one of the best passes EVER in a motorcycle race.MvdM pass on Jonny Rea.I dont think he actually ment to pass him right there he was winding it up to pass later,but Jonney maybe just has to roll the throttle back a fraction.?It was very nearly a collision!

[mulletman]

i think i saw one of the best passes EVER in a motorcycle race.MvdM pass on Jonny Rea.I dont think he actually ment to pass him right there he was winding it up to pass later,but Jonney maybe just has to roll the throttle back a fraction.?It was very nearly a collision!

Yeah it was awesome eh ! :Punk:

[pritch]

It's probable that Bautista's performances have been noticed in the GP paddock, it's even possible an approach has been made already. Bautista said he will not go back to MotoGP unless it is on a factory machine. The lad's probably quite enjoying life at the moment anyway.

[Cosmik de Bris]

It's probable that Bautista's performances have been noticed in the GP paddock, it's even possible an approach has been made already. Bautista said he will not go back to MotoGP unless it is on a factory machine. The lad's probably quite enjoying life at the moment anyway.

Petrucci's ride could be up for grabs if Miller doesn't get it.

Cheers

[pritch]

Petrucci's ride could be up for grabs if Miller doesn't get it.

Cheers

We are not alone with these thoughts apparently.

https://motomatters.com/analysis/2019/04/16/alvaro_bautista_the_excessive_cost_of.html

[roogazza]

Been on Hols for a week (Auck/Whangarei).
Haven't been to Auck for 30 years (and no hurry to go again.).

Picked up on Rea winning a leg, but tuned in today to see the second race was canned because of wet ??
Missed my Sky at home while away.

Kiwibiker site seems to have been pretty quiet, esspecially the racing section... :yawn:

[Autech]

Been on Hols for a week (Auck/Whangarei).
Haven't been to Auck for 30 years (and no hurry to go again.).

Picked up on Rea winning a leg, but tuned in today to see the second race was canned because of wet ??
Missed my Sky at home while away.

Kiwibiker site seems to have been pretty quiet, esspecially the racing section... :yawn:WSBK is just lacking for me every time I watch it.

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[Dadpole]

WSBK is just lacking for me every time I watch it.

I feel the same.

18 bikes on the grid gives it the look of a doomed series. The dropping of the stock 1000 class was supposed to get the teams to move to the SBK class. They appear to have buggered off elsewhere.

The support classes still have good racing...

[pritch]

More bikes the betterer of course but I usually find something of interest. Shame about the cancelled races but it's an ill wind that blows no good. Bautista would have said a prayer of thanks to his little plaster saint.

Be interesting to see if Bautista returns to business as usual next outing because he knows his way around Misano.

[roogazza]

Jerez this weekend WSB !
Long time between drinks !! Go Johnny !! :yes::yes:

[mulletman]

I see Michele Pirro has a ride there this weekend .

[Dadpole]

I will go out on a limb here and tip Alvaro for the win(s). I am hoping for some closer racing since Rea rediscovered what the view from the top step is like.

I note that (last week) the TAB was offering a bit over $4.00 for Rea to win the championship. It is tempting as he should walk in if Bautista drops a bollock.

[roogazza]

I must say this old fella enjoyed seeing Manu in her "Pata" T shirt.

Melandri is so tiny and she, soooooo tall. (more my size really??). :gob::gob: :yes: :msn-wink:

[Dadpole]

I must say this old fella enjoyed seeing Manu in her "Pata" T shirt.


Bugger. I missed my chance to have a perve.:love: I had to settle for watching the race instead. Fingers crossed for a Melandri podium tonight.

[Southern scratcher]

The most exciting part of race one was Johnny Rea elbowing Lowes into the gravel trap on the last lap. Then he said the classic line in the interview - "that's racing." :nono:

[roogazza]

Bugger. I missed my chance to have a perve.:love: I had to settle for watching the race instead. Fingers crossed for a Melandri podium tonight.

lol I must admit I fast forwarded bits of the second leg this morning.
Quite a few get offs meant I lost interest ! :(

[mulletman]

SSP300 seems to be the best racing to watch in this series so far.

[Autech]

lol I must admit I fast forwarded bits of the second leg this morning.
Quite a few get offs meant I lost interest ! :(

Glad I didn't swing over to it, results tell me all I need to know. Good on VDM for the win though he's a cracking rider

[roogazza]

Yes VDM , pretty good huh ? Yamahas are up there now. Lowes always seems to be riding over his head,3 offs !!!!!! in 3 races! (tho Rea's nudge didn't help in one !) lol
Melandri not on the podium so no Manu ?!!!!!! lol (i'm a sad old grandad I know !). :msn-wink:

[mulletman]

Anyone else see VDMs highside during FP ? Poor buggers out for the weekend and some...

Shit arse conditions for R1 with the thunderstorms, Baz 4th usual crowd up front but with Sykes.

[roogazza]

I had forgtten Misano was on.Spotted it at 10.30pm ,so copied. VDM is a bit sore and out for possibly two rounds , so I read this morning.

[Dadpole]

It was delayed a bit and ended just before 2 AM. I hope you left enough extra in your recording.. Some good racing in nasty conditions...

[pritch]

Anyone else see VDMs highside during FP ? Poor buggers out for the weekend and some...



Saw a photograph of VDM's flight, I don't recall seeing a higher one. Hardly surprising that the landing hurt.

[Southern scratcher]

Johhny's crash in Super pole race was a weird one. He never let go of that thing even when it was directly over the top of him. Got up, carried on and was still in 6th place!

[Dadpole]

Rea was most impressive. I have never seen a bike roll-over like that where the rider just gets back on only losing a couple of places. :shit:

[roogazza]

It was delayed a bit and ended just before 2 AM. I hope you left enough extra in your recording.. Some good racing in nasty conditions...

Yep mate as predicted I missed most of it.

But the SSP race was pretty good last night. Good fighting etc.
Have the SBK copied for later today..... after I get another load of firewood in lol.

[roogazza]

Donington was wet so I flagged it in favour of GPs on the other channel.
I don't get too excited over qualifying . But like the Sachenring track.
Can't wait for tonight.

I think Johnny might be leading the WSB now?
Bautista has made a few booboos in the last three rounds.:banana::banana::banana::2thumbsup

[Dadpole]

Terrible news. Manu :love: Melandri is retiring at the end of the season. :bye:

I think she is taking Marco with her.

[roogazza]

Terrible news. Manu :love: Melandri is retiring at the end of the season. :bye:

I think she is taking Marco with her.

Nooooooooooo !
He's tiny fella,read only last night that the Yamaha was not working for him or his style.
Manu would be a great ride ????? lol :msn-wink:

[roogazza]

Laguna seca , this weekend if you are that way inclined....... :banana::banana:

Go Johnny!

[BMWST?]

I want the wee spaniard to get his confidence back and keep the championship close!
Gotta give Rea due credit,who woulda picked this a couple of rounds ago

[Dadpole]

Half way through the season and we don't have a runaway leader. We haven't seen that for a few years.

[Autech]

I want the wee spaniard to get his confidence back and keep the championship close!
Gotta give Rea due credit,who woulda picked this a couple of rounds agoNot him with the way he was talking, lets hope Bautista finds his form again

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[roogazza]

Well ,that was easy !!!! roll on tomoro....

Bautista not helping himself ?????

[Dadpole]

The word from Ducati is that a bumpy track is a big problem for them. Bautista now has the pressure of a points deficit to make up and looks to be trying push too hard for one more place each time. He needs to take a Rea pill and settle for second rather than win-or-bin. Easy to say that from my keyboard though.

Melandri for the win so we can ogle Manu. :2thumbsup

[mulletman]

The word from Ducati is that a bumpy track is a big problem for them. Bautista now has the pressure of a points deficit to make up and looks to be trying push too hard for one more place each time. He needs to take a Rea pill and settle for second rather than win-or-bin. Easy to say that from my keyboard though.

Melandri for the win so we can ogle Manu. :2thumbsup

Well none of that happened...AB is lucky to have time off now to get that shoulder right.

[BMWST?]

all we can hope for now is that Davies and Bautista can hassle jr enough so that he makes a couple of mistakes.With 60 points on offer it can change very quickly(as we have seen).JRs track record suggests that may be a forlorn hope

[mulletman]

Scott Redding gets a chance in WSBK, hope he does well :niceone:

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/928053/1/redding-steps-world-superbikes-ducati

[Southern scratcher]

Scott Redding gets a chance in WSBK, hope he does well :niceone:

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/928053/1/redding-steps-world-superbikes-ducati

I think this is a good signing. I've been following him in BSB and he seems to have the goods. No shortgae of attitude! ;)

Interesting to read that Bautista may be going to Honda. Are they looking at getting a factory backed team going for 2020?

[pritch]

Interesting to read that Bautista may be going to Honda. Are they looking at getting a factory backed team going for 2020?

On the contrary, Honda are reportedly considering leaving WSBK.

[Southern scratcher]

On the contrary, Honda are reportedly considering leaving WSBK.

It appears that Moriwaki Althea Honda Team that Camier rides for is factory backed this year, first time since 2002. So it seems odd Honda would pull their backing after just one year, esp if they have signed up hotshot Bautista?

[pritch]

It seems all up in the air at this stage. Bautista held a strong bargaining hand while he was winning but that's starting to seem a long time ago. So long that Ducati decided he wasn't worth what he was asking...

Apparently Moriwaki will run a team but Honda will stay home.

All will become clear in a week or three...

[roogazza]

Back to business for #1 , the new format with 3 races has him ahead again.
Bautista has choked nicely. (keen to see how he gets on with the Honda next year ??)

Anyway racing for us this weekend ,a nice change !! :woohoo::innocent::corn::corn:

[pritch]

Back to business for #1 , the new format with 3 races has him ahead again.
Bautista has choked nicely. (keen to see how he gets on with the Honda next year ??)

Anyway racing for us this weekend ,a nice change !! :woohoo::innocent::corn::corn:

Yeah, I had to look at the calendar to see wassup. Alex Briggs is posting pics of golfing in Scotland so I was a bit perplexed as to why no GP.

The Honda hasn't really been competitive for years now, it seems the factory are happy to dominate GPs.

[pritch]

Ah I see it all. Alex Briggs has a speaking engagement in Scotland with Mat Oxley to raise money for a blood bike service in Scotland.

[mulletman]

JR cleaned up easily, a good recovery for AB to take 4th - he got duffed up by fellow Duke rider CD into turn 1.
Looked like AB would've made a race of it with JR i reckon.

[roogazza]

Copied what I thought was race 2 but got a race that Davies won ???????? and he didn't win race two going by the results?/
Never mind the SSP was a pretty good scrap.
At least Sky are giving us a few replays on Ch55 now ,just in case we miss one. :innocent:

Johnny Rea in the driver seat at the mo,his to lose ?

[pritch]

Copied what I thought was race 2 but got a race that Davies won ???????? <snip>
Johnny Rea in the driver seat at the mo, his to lose ?

Ummm Davies didn't win one but he almost took Bautista out sending the latter to the back of the field in race 1. AB rode a damage limitation race finishing fourth. Rea won. Davies and Bautista are not BFFs right now.

In The Superpole race Rea won again, and again Bautista was in damage limitation mode. He was sixth on the grid but got bullied back to ninth (being careful perhaps?). From there he worked his way up to second behind Rea.

Race 2 Bautista 1st Rea 2nd.

[pritch]

Copied what I thought was race 2 but got a race that Davies won ???????? <snip>
Johnny Rea in the driver seat at the mo, his to lose ?

Ummm Davies didn't win one but he almost took Bautista out sending the latter to the back of the field in race 1. AB rode a damage limitation race finishing fourth. Rea won. Davies and Bautista are not BFFs right now.*

In The Superpole race Rea won again, and again Bautista was in damage limitation mode. He was sixth on the grid but got bullied back to ninth (being careful perhaps?). From there he worked his way up to second behind Rea.

Race 2 Bautista 1st Rea 2nd.


* http://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2019/Bautista%20and%20Davies%20at%20odds%20after%20Turn %201%20conflict

[mulletman]

So its official Alvaro is heading to Honda , wonder if Honda are going to bring a totally new bike for next year ?

https://www.crash.net/wsbk/news/930089/1/bautista-joins-hrc-world-superbike-team-2020

[Dadpole]

Honda have said there is an all-new bike on the way. They kept saying that to a certain J Rea in times past. I hope they deliver this time.

[pritch]

Honda have said there is an all-new bike on the way. They kept saying that to a certain J Rea in times past. I hope they deliver this time.

Yeah this has caused a small flurry of comments by pundits overnight. Not by way of celebration, more of hope. Whether that's a triumph of hope over experience we'll find out next year. Bautista will have his fingers crossed.

[roogazza]

Maggy Cors this weekend, get the beerzy's in . :yawn: :mellow:

[BMWST?]

bautista and rea crash in fp1(i think it was fp1)

[roogazza]

Great stuff in the first race, Havn't seen that sort of scrapping for a while.

Got this old fella's ticker pumpin anyway. :cool:

ps watched a bit of qual cos I read somewhere young Stroud was over there,but it appeared he didn't do too well in the ssp300?
anyone know any more?

[steveyb]

You can see the results on the WorldSBK website. Looks like he went quicker in every session (weather adjusted), and was within the qual time in every session, but came last (other than the crashers) in the Last Chance Race, so it looks like he is not on the starting grid for the race.
Bloody good stuff though, really!
Finished every session, went faster every session and didn't scratch the bike (so it seems anyway).

[malcy25]

You can see the results on the WorldSBK website. Looks like he went quicker in every session (weather adjusted), and was within the qual time in every session, but came last (other than the crashers) in the Last Chance Race, so it looks like he is not on the starting grid for the race.
Bloody good stuff though, really!
Finished every session, went faster every session and didn't scratch the bike (so it seems anyway).

Yeah, a bloody good effort really that the end result doesn't show. Watching some of his Facebook stuff: Wet most of the weekend, another new circuit, only dry ride was on a set up thta was for the usual rider that didn't work for him. Jacob did jump off on Sat in the wet at T3. But little damage or issue.

Never mind this is probably one of the hardest classes in the world to ride in...week in week out, everyone is on or over the limit with 50+ riders trying to qualify via 15/15/6 slots.

One of his team mates is Tom Bramich who I've got to know a little from racing with him in Aussie (I use the term race with - we both started the same races!!). Tom was 2018 ASBK 300SS champion and class on a bike. When he joined the series at the beginning of the year, he was at a similar level to jacob in terms of results. Unfortunately Tom had quite a big one on Sat and broke his arm and is out for the last round.

[roogazza]

Yeah, a bloody good effort really that the end result doesn't show. Watching some of his Facebook stuff: Wet most of the weekend, another new circuit, only dry ride was on a set up thta was for the usual rider that didn't work for him. Jacob did jump off on Sat in the wet at T3. But little damage or issue.

Never mind this is probably one of the hardest classes in the world to ride in...week in week out, everyone is on or over the limit with 50+ riders trying to qualify via 15/15/6 slots.

One of his team mates is Tom Bramich who I've got to know a little from racing with him in Aussie (I use the term race with - we both started the same races!!). Tom was 2018 ASBK 300SS champion and class on a bike. When he joined the series at the beginning of the year, he was at a similar level to jacob in terms of results. Unfortunately Tom had quite a big one on Sat and broke his arm and is out for the last round.

cheers malcy/Steve, seems a hectic class, shades of olden day 410cc class here . Young guys so brave. :crazy::eek5:

[steveyb]

Yeah, a bloody good effort really that the end result doesn't show. Watching some of his Facebook stuff: Wet most of the weekend, another new circuit, only dry ride was on a set up thta was for the usual rider that didn't work for him. Jacob did jump off on Sat in the wet at T3. But little damage or issue.

Never mind this is probably one of the hardest classes in the world to ride in...week in week out, everyone is on or over the limit with 50+ riders trying to qualify via 15/15/6 slots.

One of his team mates is Tom Bramich who I've got to know a little from racing with him in Aussie (I use the term race with - we both started the same races!!). Tom was 2018 ASBK 300SS champion and class on a bike. When he joined the series at the beginning of the year, he was at a similar level to jacob in terms of results. Unfortunately Tom had quite a big one on Sat and broke his arm and is out for the last round.

Ah, I must not be FB connected. Was looking but not seeing.
So that is how the qualy is done. I was trying to work that out, not following WSBK all that closely.
Yeah, pretty much a bloody good effort by Jacob.
Shame for Tom.

On a similar note, all best wishes going out to our local boy wildcarding in MotoGP Moto3 at Philip Island, Rouges Racing (and to Yanni too of course).

[malcy25]

Ah, I must not be FB connected. Was looking but not seeing.
So that is how the qualy is done. I was trying to work that out, not following WSBK all that closely.
Yeah, pretty much a bloody good effort by Jacob.
Shame for Tom.

On a similar note, all best wishes going out to our local boy wildcarding in MotoGP Moto3 at Philip Island, Rouges Racing (and to Yanni too of course).

Not the only kiwi's riding....There's some old bastard with the Kiwibiker handle of Malcy25 who should know better. I dropped my little blue R3 at the shippers on Friday to go and have a play at that event in the 300 Supersport Support class. I Love the circuit and timing worked for me:whistle:

It's roughly the same cost for me to go to Aussie for MotoGP weekend as it is to do the two SI nationals and I get to watch the GPs....(World Championship, not the NZ ones!)

The funny co-incidence is that it's the bike that Yamaha built for Rogan in 2017.

[malcy25]

cheers malcy/Steve, seems a hectic class, shades of olden day 410cc class here . Young guys so brave. :crazy::eek5:

I have WorldSBK access to watch the 300 Q's and races, not for the SBK class....55 riders trying to qualify. Depth of talent is massive, especially as Spain and Italy have super strong domestic series.

[merv]

So how come Bautista was just so invincible and then it stopped? Did someone sabotage the bike or something? I know they knobbled the rpm but should that have affected the handling that bad he then crashed so often.

Weirdest season I've ever seen.

[BMWST?]

So how come Bautista was just so invincible and then it stopped? Did someone sabotage the bike or something? I know they knobbled the rpm but should that have affected the handling that bad he then crashed so often.

Weirdest season I've ever seen.

i am just as bewildered...Chaz never got to grips with the bike really either.Then to top it off Bautista leaves???.Its unbeleiveable, what a turnaround.Tenacity by Rea, a real unravelling for AB

[pritch]

i am just as bewildered...Chaz never got to grips with the bike really either.Then to top it off Bautista leaves???.Its unbeleiveable, what a turnaround.Tenacity by Rea, a real unravelling for AB

Umm “Bautista leaves” gives a misleading impression. Ducati signed somebody else, leaving him without a ride until Honda signed him.

[roogazza]

Umm “Bautista leaves” gives a misleading impression. Ducati signed somebody else, leaving him without a ride until Honda signed him.

Haven't Ducati signed Redding, he must have something I haven't seen ? :laugh:
Doing ok in BSB I suppose. (if that's a plus ?).:confused:

[pritch]

Haven't Ducati signed Redding, he must have something I haven't seen ? :laugh:
Doing ok in BSB I suppose. (if that's a plus ?).:confused:

Apparently the contract negotiations started earlier in the season when Bautista was still undefeated so his manager had a sky high asking price. That price was seen by Ducati as way too high once the wheels fell off. So they signed Redding.

Still, I'd be surprised if Redding did better than Bautista. Or as well.

[BMWST?]

Umm “Bautista leaves” gives a misleading impression. Ducati signed somebody else, leaving him without a ride until Honda signed him.
Ducati seem to have a fraught relationship with their riders in both paddocks.

[merv]

Ducati seem to have a fraught relationship with their riders in both paddocks.

Lol, it is the Italian way, much like Vettel has run into with Ferrari in F1.

[merv]

Haven't Ducati signed Redding, he must have something I haven't seen ? :laugh:
:confused:

Yeah, we certainly never saw anything of note from him in MotoGP did we Gaz!

[roogazza]

Sky Ch 55 this morning at 0730 to 0900 Race one.

Tomorrow morning it switches to Ch 58 for the extra race and Race two at 0730 to 0900.

[mulletman]

Good win for Alvaro he rode smart and the bike had too much power at this time.

[steveyb]

Haslam announced as team-mate for Bautista in new HRC team onboard new CBR1000RR-R.
As someone said, Does that come with a parrot or sword?

[Southern scratcher]

Haslam announced as team-mate for Bautista in new HRC team onboard new CBR1000RR-R.
As someone said, Does that come with a parrot or sword?

Heck hard to keep up with all the ship jumping. I thought Camier would be his team mate but looks like he is going to Ductai..
This article is a good overview:
https://www.bikesales.com.au/editorial/details/2020-worldsbk-grid-takes-shape-121416/
2020 is shaping up to be an interesting season esp with the new CBR in the mix. Bring it on. :corn: