Power Co.'s

[slofox]

I just asked to be transferred from Genesis to Powerconz. Genesis have now offered me an "even better deal". Why didn't they offer me that in the first place?

[johcar]

Because these companies don't reward loyalty and seem to think it's cheaper to buy back a customer than keep them in the first place.

Telcos and insurers play the same game

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[pritch]

I just asked to be transferred from Genesis to Powerconz. Genesis have now offered me an "even better deal". Why didn't they offer me that in the first place?

The new outfit Energy Club called me but I'm on contract for another month or so. Lady across the road was saying she joined a Grey Power scheme and that has dropped her bill $20 a month. I may have to enquire about that.

[slofox]

The new outfit Energy Club called me but I'm on contract for another month or so. Lady across the road was saying she joined a Grey Power scheme and that has dropped her bill $20 a month. I may have to enquire about that.

Is there anything older than grey power? I'm kinda dust power these days...

[merv]

I just asked to be transferred from Genesis to Powerconz. Genesis have now offered me an "even better deal". Why didn't they offer me that in the first place?

How much better was the deal as in is it worth staying with them? Do you have power and gas?

[Grumph]

We shopped around for power a while back. Asked around recently about the broadband with power deals.
Not available here. Looking at recent prices, that's the only incentive we'd have to change.
And AFAIK, the greypower deal ain't available here either. Bugger.

[husaberg]

We shopped around for power a while back. Asked around recently about the broadband with power deals.
Not available here. Looking at recent prices, that's the only incentive we'd have to change.
And AFAIK, the greypower deal ain't available here either. Bugger.

I cant understand why you cant get broadband all but the shitest West Coast towns have it.
There is plenty of dairy farms were you are what happened to the rutral broadband roll out.
before broadband was available we used to have satellite broadband there were also others that had a wireless one off the satellite feed.
https://wirelessnation.co.nz/rural/rbi-wireless/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIg56O0Lic4QIVz42PCh3gCgUXEAAYAiA AEgJQkvD_BwE
https://www.scorch.co.nz/services/terrestrial-wireless/canterbury-region/
https://getgravity.nz/?keyword_k=%2Bbroadband&gclid=EAIaIQobChMI2IHZ6bmc4QIVjDgrCh1hSg71EAAYAiAA EgKpxvD_BwE
https://www.skinny.co.nz/broadband/?gclsrc=PPC=1&aw.ds&gclsrc=aw.ds&&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIivy6nLmc4QIV1RwrCh06nQYAEAAYAyAA EgJqpfD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

You are on the list
https://ufb.org.nz/270m-ufb-boost-to-speed-up-roll-out-reach-190-more-towns/

Ultra-Fast Broadband expansion
Under the latest extension of the Government’s Ultra-Fast Broadband programme, worldclass broadband will be rolled out to an additional 34 towns and 5 fringe areas in Canterbury.
This will provide approximately 7,500 more Canterbury households and businesses with access to faster, more reliable internet.
New towns & fringe areas:  Arthurs Pass  Belfast (Clearwater)  Castle Hill  Coalgate/Glentunnel  Cust  Doyleston  Dunsandel  Duntroon  Duvauchelle  Fairlie  Fairton/Ashburton Airport area and Ashburton Northpark  Glenavy  Hanmer Springs  Hawarden  Hornby Quadrant  Hororata  Kirwee  Kurow  Leithfield  Leithfield Beach  Little River  Mandeville  Mt Somers  Omarama  Otematata  Pareora  Prebbleton 1  Prebbleton 2  Rotherham  South Kaikoura  Tai Tapu  Takamatua  Tuahiwi  Waddington/Sheffield  Waiau  Waikari  Waipara  West Eyreton  Winchester

[Grumph]

We can get it - but not at a price we can afford.
Fibre runs past our back gate. Put in as part of the rural schools setup.
I went for the mail one morning and found the mad pom (see flying Kiwi sidecar record) standing in a ditch across my gate.
After we'd insulted each other as you do, he declined to add a branch for us. Bugger.

BTW, the school didn't connect to it for some time. Couldn't afford it I heard.

[slofox]

How much better was the deal as in is it worth staying with them? Do you have power and gas?

I'll give it a month or two and then reassess. This is power only.

[Scubbo]

15.5c/KWh at the mo -- who offers betterer?

[pritch]

15.5c/KWh at the mo -- who offers betterer?

If it was cheaper than that they'd be paying you to use it. Who is that with?

[Scubbo]

If it was cheaper than that they'd be paying you to use it. Who is that with?

flick fixi standard >_> only 2 of us and a toddler in a concrete house using shit loads of electric hot water + fan heater + dish washer + washing machine + a server running 24/7 --- between $20-30 a week in power --- you have to pay weekly with flick however. when I was on mercury and then genisis it was 280 a month and this was during the cheaper national government power pricing times ;p

[pete376403]

15.5c/KWh at the mo -- who offers betterer?

Ecotricity - can go as low as 7 c/KwH (plus line charges, plus GST, plus any other charges that can be added) buy back rate for solar is the same but without the extra charges being refunded.

Solar panels are about to be activated (12 panels and a 6kwH inverter/battery) will be intersting to see what thebills are like, A bit pissed off that we have missed the benefit power-wise of all the brilliant sunshine since January.

[slofox]

Update:

After a couple of weeks comparing, it looks like the month's bill will drop 20% from $150 to $120.

I will wait and see.

By the by, Genesis has worked really hard to make me change my mind. I said I would "consider" them if the new guy was no good. I didn't add that I would consider and reject.

[Dadpole]

29 cents a unit here in the sticks. By a remarkable coincidence, the 3 companies that service our area are within $5.00 a month. :mad:

[pritch]

29 cents a unit here in the sticks. By a remarkable coincidence, the 3 companies that service our area are within $5.00 a month. :mad:

Thats similar to here although I get the little discount that came with signing a three year contract - which expires at the end of this month. So next month I will be looking...

The ISP phoned me to entice me to bundle my power but it was going to cost pretty much what I'm paying now. As an enducement they offered me free cellphone for a year. My plan only costs $20.00 a month discounted for being bundled. If that was permanent perhaps, but not just for a year.

Gonna keep looking.

[Viking01]

Ecotricity - can go as low as 7 c/KwH (plus line charges, plus GST, plus any other charges that can be added) buy back rate for solar is the same but without the extra charges being refunded.

Solar panels are about to be activated (12 panels and a 6kwH inverter/battery) will be intersting to see what thebills are like, A bit pissed off that we have missed the benefit power-wise of all the brilliant sunshine since January.

Afternoon.

Interested to see your post regarding installation of solar panels,
especially since your profile shows you residing in the Hutt area.

The reason for posting is to enquire whether you did much in the
way of calculations re projected $ savings and payback time.

I went through a financial evaluation process for purchase and
installation of solar panels about 18 months ago, and decided
that the economics just didn't stack up.

1. Estimation

I contacted one of the popular solar panel installers (name omitted
on purpose) and asked them to come up to my house and give me
some advice on panel suitability / size / quantity.

I then asked for two quotes - one for panels only, and another for
panels plus storage battery (installation included in both cases).

I asked the installer (at the time of site visit) if they provided any
software tools (calculator) to help a customer to work out if the
proposition was financially viable.

The answer was "No". He replied that it was "entirely up to the client
how they justified the spend, and whether it was cost effective". They
would not even point me to an online calculator that I could use.

The calculator that I've used is the one provided by the University
of Canterbury (UC):

https://www.canterbury.ac.nz/news/2016/uc-experts-create-solar-cost-benefit-calculator.html

You could enter the various physical and financial parameters for your
proposed implementation , and it would calculate a "simple payback"
value ($), as well as an estimated time to "break even". It's very
comprehensive and easy to use.

[Note: In the intervening 18 months, I see that they have secured the
UC solar calculator, so you might need to apply for a login.

I see that University of Auckland have also produced an online calculator
(although I haven't used it) :

http://solarpower.cer.auckland.ac.nz/ ]

2. Quotations

I have a split level house and a separate garage. Solar panels were
able to be mounted on either / both buildings, with easy cabling to
the house and switchboard. Feedback of excess power back into the
local grid was calculated at 8c / unit.

The installer would provide only "all-up quotations", with no breakdown
of materials / labour etc.

Between (i) absence of a calculator (ii) provision of all-up quotes only,
have to say that he did not really do his prospects of a sale much help.


The first quotation was for panels alone (no storage) and effectively
relied on us being able to use the power as it was generated. This
quotation was for 10 panels plus inverter plus installation. All panels
were to be mounted on the garage. Quotation was just on $10k.
GST Inclusive. Average cost per panel was therefore about $1k.

The second quotation was for panels plus a storage battery. This
quotation was for 18 panels plus inverter and storage battery plus
installation. Quotation was just on $30K. GST inclusive.

At an average of $1k per panel, this indicated a storage battery cost
around $12k.

The first quotation (10 panels) gave a payback period of over 21 years,
and estimated total savings of only $1,200 after 25 years.

The second quotation (18 panels plus battery) did not even give a net
positive payback (break even) within 25 years.

So, on the basis of the above, I flagged the whole proposition away.

Hope that your implementation offers better cost savings.

Cheers