Opinions on purchasing a new bike

[Boostinu13]

So I am considering buying a new or second-hand bike :) My only real experience with the long term running of a bike is the gt250r which has been... an experience (I am much more mechanical now haha).

I know everyone has different opinions so love to hear them to make an informed decision.

I am thinking of moving to an approx 600, maybe larger though do not think I have any need for a 1000 in Auckland.

Just want your views on bikes around the 5k and 10k give or take mark.

It is my daily driver 82kms - 90kms Monday - Friday

My pref is sport bikes.

- Reliability is a big thing for me since owning this Hyosung.
- Accerlation is next as I do not care about top speed at all (as long as it can go 100ks).
- Fuel cost is next
- The noise it makes is also not an issue for me as I now realise that most people think your a tosser for having a loud car / bike haha but if its loud so be it (I'll enjoy it haha)

A lot of people say my bike is uncomfortable but I have found it fine so that is not an issue.

Was looking at second hand Yamaha r6, mt-07, CBR but there are a lot of other options out there of course.

Thanks

[sidecar bob]

I'd encourage you to seriously look at Triumph 675 Daytona.
I absolutely loved riding my wife's one, got real soul & makes a beautiful sound to the rider even with the standard exhaust.
More torquey than a 600 four & great to look at too.
At no point will you wish you had a faster bike.
'08 '09 is a good model/price point.

[Ginge09]

You could have a chat to Tui on this board. He's got a Ninja he can't ride at the moment and is looking for a learner bike. You might be able to shift on the Hyosung.

[Yokomama]

Sv650 comes to mind.
Won’t win any beauty contests with it (naked one looks alright) but they seem adequate for most duties, hard to kill, and the parts network is there.

[Scubbo]

ninja 400.

[HenryDorsetCase]

So I am considering buying a new or second-hand bike :) My only real experience with the long term running of a bike is the gt250r which has been... an experience (I am much more mechanical now haha).

I know everyone has different opinions so love to hear them to make an informed decision.

I am thinking of moving to an approx 600, maybe larger though do not think I have any need for a 1000 in Auckland.

Just want your views on bikes around the 5k and 10k give or take mark.

It is my daily driver 82kms - 90kms Monday - Friday

My pref is sport bikes.

- Reliability is a big thing for me since owning this Hyosung.
- Accerlation is next as I do not care about top speed at all (as long as it can go 100ks).
- Fuel cost is next
- The noise it makes is also not an issue for me as I now realise that most people think your a tosser for having a loud car / bike haha but if its loud so be it (I'll enjoy it haha)

A lot of people say my bike is uncomfortable but I have found it fine so that is not an issue.

Was looking at second hand Yamaha r6, mt-07, CBR but there are a lot of other options out there of course.

Thanks

OK so here's what you need to do.


Buy a Triumph Street Triple R from 2009 through 2011. All the bike you will need on the road. You can do anything on it from trackdays to touring. They are very reliable and mine has only had one recall (reg/rec) - if yours has had that done you will be sweet. They are available in your price range.

Do eeeeeeeet.

If you want a left field choice buy a Buell XB12S

[FlangMasterJ]

My sweet 796 Hypermotard is up for grabs if that tickles your vaginey... https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2008340089

[Madness]

Based on your post, I find this quite erogenous...

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/sports/auction-1996013417.htm?rsqid=36689edbf23c432f87b0f28cc3e61 4be-001

I'm not saying it's a great deal or anything, I tend to buy bikes just because of that slightly sexual feeling that you can get from a bike. The exception with this is a KLR650 - nothing sexual about it at all but it's still a great bike. Have fun, you're about to embark on a great chapter in motorcycling life.

[AllanB]

Hornet 900. Pick them up cheap now and ultra reliable. Fit some low bars for better comfort.

Ideal move up bike to get that big bike feel (mid you pretty much the same size as the Hornet 600) and decent power.

Thrash it for a year or so while you save for that hyper sports bike and if you buy wisely you are likely to get the same money back when you sell.

[actungbaby]

Check out gs 750 at 11k abs brand new it looks great too.
Much better value than anyting i seen. If power per wieght means alot to you.

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[AllanB]

Check out gs 750 at 11k abs brand new it looks great too.
Much better value than anyting i seen. If power per wieght means alot to you.


I went looking - only found these for $14? unless they are on sale in some shops?

https://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycles/Model/gsx-s750a/street

[sidecar bob]

I went looking - only found these for $14? unless they are on sale in some shops?

https://www.suzuki.co.nz/Motorcycles/Model/gsx-s750a/street

Noble as they may be, does anybody else find modern naked bikes to be all the same & a complete snore?

[caspernz]

Noble as they may be, does anybody else find modern naked bikes to be all the same & a complete snore?

You're not alone :devil2:

[Boostinu13]

Some nice bikes listed so will definitly keep these in mind tho alot seem to have quite high ks.

What sort of ks Max should i be looking at on a second hand bike before going no thanks. On a car if go over the 100k mark but I know a bike is no where near as high. Sadly so many variables I guess also as you never know how the old owner treated it

[sidecar bob]

Some nice bikes listed so will definitly keep these in mind tho alot seem to have quite high ks.

What sort of ks Max should i be looking at on a second hand bike before going no thanks. On a car if go over the 100k mark but I know a bike is no where near as high. Sadly so many variables I guess also as you never know how the old owner treated it
It's a pretty broad topic, you can get a BMW R1200gs with plenty of useful life left in it that's done over 100,000km, you probably wouldn't want to try that with a Hyosung 250.
The sweet spot between getting something that's a chunk cheaper than new & still having a decent amount of life in it would be 30 to 40,000km ish.

[jim.cox]

Noble as they may be, does anybody else find modern naked bikes to be all the same

Noble? They aren't Noble!

Fugly is what they are.

(except perhaps for some of the Triumph range)

[F5 Dave]

Try the street. I have multiple years on big bikes but these are great. . . Although at a sport guy I do wonder if I should have bought the Daytona. But we have heaps of outback here. Not a town bike.

[sidecar bob]

Noble? They aren't Noble!

Fugly is what they are.

(except perhaps for some of the Triumph range)

Fugly they are.
Noble covers all the things that a 1973 Kawasaki triple for example, mainly wasn't.
Reliable, low maintenance, fuel efficient, safe handling, easy starting, great brakes, low emission, comfortable, good lighting, durable & well. . . just bloody boring.

[Voltaire]

80-90 kms commuting daily in Auckland :(.
I used to commute daily with some motorway thrown in but been driving an old van for the last few years.
By the time I put my gear on , take the bike outside I'm already 10 mins down.
Must be why you see guys weaving in and out to make it up.:rolleyes:

Have commuted on scooters, scramblers, classics and sports bikes.
If I was doing it now I'd pick something with quick steering, good acceleration, light with a loud horn.
I'd not waste my money buying anything too fancy for commuting, save the money to get a property.

[Scubbo]

just pick a bike you know that on your shittest day at work with the shittest weather how happy/comfortable/safe you'll be on the way home --- lane splitting for the first 15-30 mins too so its not like its super fun riding until you get south of bombay --- perhaps a gsx1250 they go pretty cheap and are nice commuters

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-2020352905.htm?rsqid=31ab69526a0e436ea76178411a980 b58-004

or the 600~

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/tourers/auction-2017196777.htm?rsqid=31ab69526a0e436ea76178411a980 b58-004

[sidecar bob]

In absolute reality, this is probably the best commuter bike for sale on TM currently.
Good for a lot more than commuting too.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-2023042537.htm?rsqid=c0bc97a786e8458193f74df43cb2d fc4-001

[Voltaire]

In absolute reality, this is probably the best commuter bike for sale on TM currently.
Good for a lot more than commuting too.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-2023042537.htm?rsqid=c0bc97a786e8458193f74df43cb2d fc4-001

I think the OP might have some concerns about street cred.....even I would not ride that to work and I have a PX 200.
It might be 100% practical but......:sick:

[Blackbird]

In absolute reality, this is probably the best commuter bike for sale on TM currently.
Good for a lot more than commuting too.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-2023042537.htm?rsqid=c0bc97a786e8458193f74df43cb2d fc4-001

There used to be an older guy who owned one of these and took part in the organised Rusty Nuts 1600km/24 hour and Southern Cross round NZ in 5 days endurance events. Did bloody well on it and always finished in very respectable times. As you say, not only good for commuting but serious rides too. :yes:

[sidecar bob]

I think the OP might have some concerns about street cred.....even I would not ride that to work and I have a PX 200.
It might be 100% practical but......:sick:

You wake up one day & you find you have stopped caring about what strangers make of you.
About your age I reckon.
Seriously though, I have a decent range of bikes I can choose from to ride each day, some would be perceived as cooler than this, but it's T max for the win every time if it's a commute type job.
But yeah, I followed a mate that was riding it on the weekend, it looked pretty retarded.

[HEsch]

Love my SV650 for the kind of riding you do. I don't do a long daily commute, just once a week up and down to Hamilton, so sometimes I do have to get through Auckland traffic (CBD-Takanini). After Tak it opens right up and is much more enjoyable a ride.

I do love the MT09 I upgraded to, but practically, it doesn't really improve my life over the SV650. It has a bit more get-up-and-go when I want to pass, but I don't get to the other end any faster. It also sucks a lot more fuel (I can do 300kms to a tank on the SV - that's on 12L of fast dinosaurs or about $30-35 fuel per week).

[Voltaire]

You wake up one day & you find you have stopped caring about what strangers make of you.
About your age I reckon.
Seriously though, I have a decent range of bikes I can choose from to ride each day, some would be perceived as cooler than this, but it's T max for the win every time if it's a commute type job.
But yeah, I followed a mate that was riding it on the weekend, it looked pretty retarded.

I don't know any strangers...:msn-wink:



It will make the transition to mobility scooters easier I suppose.

[Boostinu13]

80-90 kms commuting daily in Auckland :(.

Have commuted on scooters, scramblers, classics and sports bikes.
If I was doing it now I'd pick something with quick steering, good acceleration, light with a loud horn.
I'd not waste my money buying anything too fancy for commuting, save the money to get a property.

Yes it does suck but gotta pay the bills (use to live 12mins from work not there fault i moved right). A loud horn is a definite. Already have a house but def can do more renos or more towards the mortgage right.


I think the OP might have some concerns about street cred.....even I would not ride that to work and I have a PX 200.
It might be 100% practical but......:sick: It is all about the street cred gotta look cool right ot whats the point haha.

The hardest part is my wife is having some say in what I get (ofcourse it is a partnership). Her views are either "I don't care" when its is a sport looking bike like the Ninja Yamahas or Hyosung gts but if it is a naked or cruiser her view is "no not that one its ugly" so I dont care or its ugly haha. Just like the what do you want for dinner debate.


Dammit people! Why can you not be more helpful and be tell me that you can get the best bike in the world for really cheap haha. Why does everyone have to have there own opnion :)

[Jeeper]

Would you be riding the bike or your wife? Buy something that's attractive to you and feels comfortable to ride.

[layton]

Honda crx with the wing and shiney lights under the car.

Must have no muffler.

I have to say something to commute on would have to be ugly and boring get a BMW maybe f800? Something designed for high kms

[GazzaH]

Would you be riding the bike or your wife? Buy something that's attractive to you and feels comfortable to ride.

Applies to both bikes and babes

[Jeeper]

Applies to both bikes and babesCome to think of it, yes (except the buying part).

[Boostinu13]

So turns out this was useless. I am sitting my restricted and my reward was ditch the Hyosung that I have been using as my daily for a couple of years get a new fun bike... Then bam restricted is LAMS I assumed Learner approved Motorcycles only applied to well Learners but guess LRAMS sounds dumb. Teaches me to be lazy and not get my restricted then full.

I like insurance so got to follow the law.

I understand why of course just a little frustrating. So yea I believe nearly all Lams are about the same in the acceleration aspect so it really just comes down to comfort and reliability

Sorry for wasting time but any LAM opinions feel free to let me know.

[pritch]

In absolute reality, this is probably the best commuter bike for sale on TM currently.
Good for a lot more than commuting too.
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/scooters/auction-2023042537.htm?rsqid=c0bc97a786e8458193f74df43cb2d fc4-001

OK so I come to this a bit late, that one seems a tad expensive for 2007 though. Apart from that, Mat Oxley, MotoGP journo, IoM winner and lap record holder and former GP rider, has a better riding CV than most, but he owns and uses a Yamaha Max.

[Jeeper]

So turns out this was useless. I am sitting my restricted and my reward was ditch the Hyosung that I have been using as my daily for a couple of years get a new fun bike... Then bam restricted is LAMS I assumed Learner approved Motorcycles only applied to well Learners but guess LRAMS sounds dumb. Teaches me to be lazy and not get my restricted then full.

I like insurance so got to follow the law.

I understand why of course just a little frustrating. So yea I believe nearly all Lams are about the same in the acceleration aspect so it really just comes down to comfort and reliability

Sorry for wasting time but any LAM opinions feel free to let me know.LAMS can be a bike up to 660cc, if you think that's not enough power for you then just try some at the higher end of the scale, and not 250cc ones.

[HEsch]

LAMS can be a bike up to 660cc, if you think that's not enough power for you then just try some at the higher end of the scale, and not 250cc ones.

Lams can be up to 650cc, as long on 'the list'.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/

[sidecar bob]

OK so I come to this a bit late, that one seems a tad expensive for 2007 though. Apart from that, Mat Oxley, MotoGP journo, IoM winner and lap record holder and former GP rider, has a better riding CV than most, but he owns and uses a Yamaha Max.

It's also the only bike that MCN's senior road tester Michael Neeves owns.
I have spannered for Michael at Philip Island & he speaks very highly of them, & its the main reason I bought one.
But they're not on the cool wall though, so it's not going to happen.

[Jeeper]

Lams can be up to 650cc, as long on 'the list'.

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/driver-licences/getting-a-licence/licences-by-vehicle-type/motorcycles/lams/lams-approved-and-prohibited-motorcycles/Um, your link also says 660cc.....

I used have Yamaha XSR 700 which is on the LAMS list and 655cc.

[HenryDorsetCase]

LAMS can be a bike up to 660cc, if you think that's not enough power for you then just try some at the higher end of the scale, and not 250cc ones.

Triumph Street Triple 660. I've ridden one and surprisingly capable.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It's also the only bike that MCN's senior road tester Michael Neeves owns.
I have spannered for Michael at Philip Island & he speaks very highly of them, & its the main reason I bought one.
But they're not on the cool wall though, so it's not going to happen.

I want to take one for a strop. I loved the MP3 I rode that time.

[Jeeper]

Triumph Street Triple 660. I've ridden one and surprisingly capable.Exactly, there are a few bikes very close to the upper limit that can be fun for commuting. They are not speed demons or torque monsters, but are more than what someone on a learner or restricted should need.

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2036322997

LAMS-alicious it appears.

[HEsch]

Um, your link also says 660cc.....

I used have Yamaha XSR 700 which is on the LAMS list and 655cc.

As far as I am aware, anything over 650cc is somewhat restricted. Hence you can get full power and LAMS versions of the 'same' bikes. The LAMS version is somewhat dialled back.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2036322997

LAMS-alicious it appears.

it looks more like a sheep on wolfs clothing, more mutton than lams
who would buy it without the pipe wrap anyway?
that said better than most.

[Jeeper]

As far as I am aware, anything over 650cc is somewhat restricted. Hence you can get full power and LAMS versions of the 'same' bikes. The LAMS version is somewhat dialled back.For some may be, but MT-07 and XSR 700 the physical engine capacity is reduced to 655 cc from 689 cc (cylinders are narrower with intake changes). It's all about power to weight ratio up to max 660cc engine regardless of weight. Some makes use ECM trickery to limit power. Others use engine components.

[AllanB]

It's also the only bike that MCN's senior road tester Michael Neeves owns.


If I got the latest model machine to take home every week of the year to thrash I'd probably only own a cheaper scooter as my own ride too. Not to say they are not a good one.

[F5 Dave]

So what if you owned a high class brothel. Would you tuck away Sarah Boyle at home?

[husaberg]

So what if you owned a high class brothel. Would you tuck away Sarah Boyle at home?

I have two words for you Dave.
Hugh Grant.
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/08/27/article-0-00E7C38A00000190-936_468x659.jpghttps://static1.purepeople.com/articles/4/62/81/4/@/464763-divine-brown-la-scandaleuse-le-27-juin-opengraph_1200-3.jpg

[HenryDorsetCase]

So what if you owned a high class brothel. Would you tuck away Sarah Boyle at home?

https://www.susanboylemusic.com/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/category/Community/Susan-Boyle-Fans-International-Inc-557956557686959/


I've got a box of tissues here if anyone needs them.

[F5 Dave]

I'm not clicking on any of those links as dinner is almost ready.

Still have a lean patch between 3000 and 4500 at less than 10% throttle but we did have a nice scrambled brunch in Martinborough.

[husaberg]

I'm not clicking on any of those links as dinner is almost ready.

Still have a lean patch between 3000 and 4500 at less than 10% throttle but we did have a nice scrambled brunch in Martinborough.

Use a chart like this to find the one you want.
https://www.jetsrus.com/photos/photo_keihin_needle_N427_48_aftermarket_chart.JPG
if the idle isnt hanging i would leave the pilot alone.

[F5 Dave]

Um, yeah I've loaded at least 50 maps, but takes 12 min to reset the TPS so the low throttle position is difficult to tune without dealer software .

[husaberg]

Um, yeah I've loaded at least 50 maps, but takes 12 min to reset the TPS so the low throttle position is difficult to tune without dealer software .

Sorry its the trump thought it was the Yamgamma

[layton]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2036322997

LAMS-alicious it appears.

what gets me about these builds is, the rear "hoop" there cant be enough suspension travel to work properly and not hit the "hoop"

why is the tank on the seat?

[AllanB]

what gets me about these builds is, the rear "hoop" there cant be enough suspension travel to work properly and not hit the "hoop"

why is the tank on the seat?

Should be fine, be lucky if it has 50mm max movement. The seat/tank is a special set-up to reduce tank vibration - sit it on top of a padded seat <_<

[Boostinu13]

So back onto the bikes love to hear peoples opnions on these three bikes

2019 Mt-03,2019 YZF-R3, 2019 ex400 Ninja and the 2018 GSX250r

Will give them a test but love your views. Liking the ninja alot myself, though the mt-03 maybe better if i do longer rides. Average ride is 45mins.
Was on a hyosung and found that comfy

[Berries]

Get the black one.

[F5 Dave]

Get the invisible one.

I mean that would look cool on the motorway as you pass people.

Never have to clean it.

Bit of a drag finding it in the carpark mind:facepalm:

[Berries]

It's been done.

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[Scubbo]

the new ninja 400, or save a lot of money, and a MT03 almost as good for ~2-3K less depending

[nzspokes]

MT03. Reliable, quick enough and comfortable.

[Boostinu13]

Get the invisible one.

I mean that would look cool on the motorway as you pass people.

Never have to clean it.

Bit of a drag finding it in the carpark mind:facepalm:

Got the invisible one now. Lost it in the carpark so have to walk everywhere.