Wanted: Suzuki T500 Frame

[DJR]

I have a Suzuki T500 Engine and a after a frame. I am in Christchurch. Any help finding a frame would be much appreciated.

[Grumph]

What's the proposed end use ? Road restoration, custom, pre 72 race ?

If it's not a restoration you have alternatives.

[DJR]

My father did a full restoration about a decade ago and had a complete spare engine he gave me recently.
I'm looking to build a custom bike with whatever I can. I have no issues with doing modifications but ideally something the engine will bolt strait into.

[F5 Dave]

Your biggest problem will be the pipes. Building custom ones is time consuming and not cheap to pay someone. Std pipes will be wrecked or v.expensive. all the parts will be expensive bought piecemeal. Trawl ebay will a spreadsheet and make a list.

I'd consider your next moves carefully to whether to continue.

I'd also try find a completeish rolling chassis from something as this will be cheaper but you are into engineering, and pipes again. 90s 250 something. Could be cool but. . .

I have a mate putting a 380 Triple in 250 Kat. Neat, but I give him about 8% chance of getting it to convincing mock up.

[Grumph]

Dave's covered it quite well. Basically you've got the wrong engine for an easy custom build.

It would in fact be easier to build a race bike round it.

[F5 Dave]

And to be fair, my own 500cc 2 stroke twin into a 250 chassis with a fairly generous budget is stretching to silly timeframe. Sigh, . . . should get down into the garage to see if latest fix fits with the other components fitted.

[layton]

what these fellas say is true.. find a completeish bike that needs an engine OR buy something similar, buying parts to build a bike is very expensive, frustrating and slow. i started with a motor and a similar frame the motor came from and its turned out to be a ton of fab work and lots of beer to try and figure stuff out.

[DJR]

Thanks for the information. Maybe I should have mentioned that I'm a mechanical engineer with a massive machine shop at my disposal. I plan on fabricating custom pipes and any other fabrication is not an issue.
A rolling chassis would be ideal but have yet to come across one. Perhaps I should have been a bit more clear in my post in what I am after.
I am after a T500 frame (ideally a rolling chassis with suspension wheels and swingarm) as I like the shape and look of the bike. A T350 would be a goer as well but I feel they would be even harder to come by.

[Drew]

I was gonna buy one that was in an MVX250 frame once. Cool bike, but would have been better in an RGV frame.

NSR are good because both sides of the frame cradle come off and can be custom made.

V twin 2 strokes are good, since the titan is a long motor.

Ya also get a bit fucked in the arse by the output shaft being the closer to the crank. So your sprocket is 6 inches off the swingarm pivot.

So, yeah. Like everyone else said, find a titan frame or you'll hate your life.

[sidecar bob]

Thanks for the information. Maybe I should have mentioned that I'm a mechanical engineer with a massive machine shop at my disposal. I plan on fabricating custom pipes and any other fabrication is not an issue.

Yeah, probably should have.
The assumption was maybe nearer that you worked at McDonalds.

[Grumph]

Even when they were new, the OE frames were regarded as rubber - and heavy rubber at that.
Have a look at a 250/4 late 80's - early 90's aluminium bean frame. The T500 is a fairly broad lump so a perimeter style beam frame
should be a fairly easy fit.

If you're adamant on a period style tube frame, I could put you in touch with a mate who has a 250 Benelli frame which has been set up for a CB350 Honda twin engine. Better than the OE tube frame IMO - and already cut about a bit.

[Temporary-Kiwi]

a riding mate I used to know in wellington had a couple of those t500 suzuki's, we used to race each other all over the greater wellington region, the mtr did perform well but it's handling did leave him wanting.
I wouldn't know if he kept them, as I lost contact with him about 30yrs ago, his name was Steve Perry, he lived up in Mornington area, behind brooklyn

[HenryDorsetCase]

And to be fair, my own 500cc 2 stroke twin into a 250 chassis with a fairly generous budget is stretching to silly timeframe. Sigh, . . . should get down into the garage to see if latest fix fits with the other components fitted.

There were videos at one point right?

[jellywrestler]

a riding mate I used to know in wellington had a couple of those t500 suzuki's, we used to race each other all over the greater wellington region, the mtr did perform well but it's handling did leave him wanting.
I wouldn't know if he kept them, as I lost contact with him about 30yrs ago, his name was Steve Perry, he lived up in Mornington area, behind brooklyn

was he mrs perry's son?

[HenryDorsetCase]

was he mrs perry's son?

Steve Perry - he ended up being quite a successful musician, as I recall?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Perry

[F5 Dave]

There were videos at one point right?
Oh its registered and LVV cert etc. Last drama was inlet manifolds splitting.

[husaberg]

342603
Good enough for Bazza

Also i wonder what th ewaiting list is for one of these.
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[Drew]

342603
Good enough for Bazza

Also i wonder what th ewaiting list is for one of these.
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Interesting that they ran the gear shift on the right.

[husaberg]

Interesting that they ran the gear shift on the right.

Most were brought up on old pommy shit boxs then. but out of those 3 pics on the Seeley is.
Suzuki reconised this and allowed you to easily change sides, not sure if the t20/t250 waa the same but the t90/t125 was.

[jellywrestler]

Interesting that they ran the gear shift on the right.

i have a gsx1100 clutch cover here that's got a hole to run it on the right, also the roberts alloy monocoque with the gs1000r motor in it has the same option available. a few of the die hards couldn't get their head around the opposite side.

[jellywrestler]

I have a Suzuki T500 Engine and a after a frame. I am in Christchurch. Any help finding a frame would be much appreciated.

there's a gentleman in new plymouth with a seeley framed T500 and he's since made a yamsel which is a seeley framed yamaha so he may have a jig or at least data etc. john carter from sentinel

[Grumph]

there's a gentleman in new plymouth with a seeley framed T500 and he's since made a yamsel which is a seeley framed yamaha so he may have a jig or at least data etc. john carter from sentinel

I think that one was at the SCF. In ChCh there's also Terry Timms who's built at least one Seeley replica frame. A CAMS member too.

[husaberg]

there's a gentleman in new plymouth with a seeley framed T500 and he's since made a yamsel which is a seeley framed yamaha so he may have a jig or at least data etc. john carter from sentinel



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I think that one was at the SCF. In ChCh there's also Terry Timms who's built at least one Seeley replica frame. A CAMS member too.
I looked on the cams site and couldnt find a pic sorry

[F5 Dave]

So I was at a mate birthday and Warren told me he had a frame kit and it might have been around a T500 now I think about it. Couple of beers under so a bit hazy.

[Grumph]

I looked on the cams site and couldnt find a pic sorry

Terry's one has a 500 DBDGold Star in it. Finished to his usual high standard, Colin Seeley liked it enough to sign it.
Probably better finished than an original, LOL.

[husaberg]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2495668899.htm

[HenryDorsetCase]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2495668899.htm?rsqid=9caf37e8bef042ab916e4227e717a c57-003


Get you started? Sell the bits you dont need, modify as necessary?

[husaberg]

thats some serious shade you are casting there Henry

[HenryDorsetCase]

thats some serious shade you are casting there Henry

GT500 = T500 = TR500 right?

[husaberg]

GT500 = T500 = TR500 right?

have a look at the post i made before your Henry.........:msn-wink:

[Muzz67]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2507261052.htm?rsqid=e1abe45b3f7145af80abb42343937 4cf-001

[F5 Dave]

Jeebuz, says it's been in his shed 20 years. Or outside his shed.

[Bonez]

https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/motorbikes/classic-vintage/auction-2507261052.htm?rsqid=e1abe45b3f7145af80abb42343937 4cf-001
That would be a good starter project as most of it is there. The fact it turns over is a bonus as well. The ali oxidation is easy to deal with.

[F5 Dave]

All the exhaust and tinware, not so much.

[Bonez]

That's to be expected. There are dedicated T/GT sites/forums. In saying that the outside might just need a clean up/rust prep/paint to get it running. Exhuast inside should be coated in oil. Hard to tell from the pics.

Not having valves,cams/chains/trensioners is a big advantage and cost saving.

[owl4444]

I have a Suzuki T500 Engine and a after a frame. I am in Christchurch. Any help finding a frame would be much appreciated.

I have a rolling chassis and engine all the dunstall bodywork great pipes a very rare bike everything except one side panel and air filter rubbers is there i want $3000

[Barzooma]

I have a genuine t500 frame you can buy. Let's get in touch