Tiger 100

[Voltaire]

Finally got my 1953 Tiger 100 purchased on a whim a year ago on TM on the road.
Lesson there is don't buy a bike that " needs re registering" unless it was imported pre 1999 as you need to jump thru
more hoops to get it re vinned. Fortunately I'm a member of the VCC so it was easier.
Turns out the 500 miles on the chronometric speedo is all its done since the rebuild in 1999.
Discovered that during the 2 hour exercise taking the rear wheel off, measuring the drum/linings and fitting a new tyre to replace the unused but perished one.
Time to catch the 7:20 into the city ....taking care of business and working overtime .....

[Bonez]

Cool. Another bike in the cheap rego club.

[Dadpole]

Next comes the mighty TS185ER. Oh how I am looking forward to navigating the path of registering an old bike where the only paperwork is an old WOF under the seat. Any suggestions - other than take up drugs?

[neels]

Finally got my 1953 Tiger 100 purchased on a whim a year ago on TM on the road.
Lesson there is don't buy a bike that " needs re registering" unless it was imported pre 1999 as you need to jump thru
more hoops to get it re vinned. Fortunately I'm a member of the VCC so it was easier.
Turns out the 500 miles on the chronometric speedo is all its done since the rebuild in 1999.
Discovered that during the 2 hour exercise taking the rear wheel off, measuring the drum/linings and fitting a new tyre to replace the unused but perished one.
Time to catch the 7:20 into the city ....taking care of business and working overtime .....

Pics please.


Next comes the mighty TS185ER. Oh how I am looking forward to navigating the path of registering an old bike where the only paperwork is an old WOF under the seat. Any suggestions - other than take up drugs?

If the WOF under the seat has a rego number on it that makes life easier, but can be done without it.

The VCC chaps are generally pretty helpful sorting out the right paperwork.

[Voltaire]

Next comes the mighty TS185ER. Oh how I am looking forward to navigating the path of registering an old bike where the only paperwork is an old WOF under the seat. Any suggestions - other than take up drugs?

How did a chook chaser end up on my kwality Brit bike thread....:bleh:

[Voltaire]

So...
With almost no confidence in old bikes I had Mrs V on van collection standby.
Rounded up every tool I could find, including recent set of Stahlwille Whitworth spanners.
Phone, wallet, external battery for phone, charger for battery, water in case I broke down.
Had to go via the Waitak's as no keen to take the Waterview Tunnel for obvious reasons and also the charging system is not working.
Stopped for a pic and soon after went onto reserve, strange I thought as recall putting fuel in recently, not to worry fill up at Kumeu.
Not long after bike stopped, so I now know how far reserve is good for.
I rang up Santa as I'd been bloody good all year and he sent me out a helper with some fuel.
From there it was up to Helensville for coffee, the preferred tipple of the modern age biker.

Want to see some pics of my recent under a house pre unit find?

[Blackbird]

Just glorious - thanks for posting :pinch::not:

[Voltaire]

Turns out you can upload pics on your phone even on the train.
first glimpse of bike covered in a 50 year collection of ‘ stuff’.Owner of recently sold house on 2000 Auckland sq ms is about 80 and used to work for VW here in the early 60’S and then Air New Zealand in the 70’s/80’s. Amongst all the junk was a Honda cop bike, DH Moth Minor, fiat bambinas, 850 sport, VW’s, 80’s Cadilac( not viewed as under cover) and lots of other stuff/junk. He is one of those who kept all his vehicles but left most outside to rust.

[Dadpole]

'Tigger' looks great Volty. You forget how spartan they are by later standards.

[F5 Dave]

Oh I Dunno, gee they were ahead of their time. I'm guessing that the momoshock I'd hidden under the tank, and well Skidmark would be impressed; USD forks, with some sort of black coating pre DLC.

:msn-wink:

[Voltaire]

Yep, they are pretty basic.
With the rebuilt and remagnetised mag it starts and runs a lot better.
I'm running a monobloc carb off a T100 project, as the early one floods.
50 MPH is fast but I did end up on the motorway due to a detour and it kept pace with the traffic but with a large braking distance allowed for.
The rear suspension is a sprung hub and offers some movement but not a lot.
Front end is telescopic but the similarity with later forks pretty much ends there.
It is however very engaging to ride, sounds great and transports you to another era.
I've got my eye on this but even more impractical for Auckland riding...
https://www.trademe.co.nz/Browse/Listing.aspx?id=2432005527

[Diggers]

I thought 3 speed Sturmey-Archer gears were only on pushbikes! They were the standard on pushbikes in the 70s, I'm sure you must have had one Volty!

[husaberg]

Next comes the mighty TS185ER. Oh how I am looking forward to navigating the path of registering an old bike where the only paperwork is an old WOF under the seat. Any suggestions - other than take up drugs?

Find yourself a friendly JP, one who knows you and is still friendly. if you can get a declaration of the previous owners that it was sold to you hand was not solen it will need a police check as well if its that far back i think the database was manual.
I did one years ago i was pretty painless although time consuming.
I have an TS185ER frame here with a vin on it, no idea re its history i only wanted the swing arm for the RD. you can have it if you can sort the frieght i can get it to CHCH or Nelson.

[Dadpole]

Thanks for that Husaberg. I thought the police thing was a thing of the past as they won't run the checks for you any more. Someone I know is going through the process in Wgtn, so I will use the same path myself. The most difficult part seems to be finding the right people for each step.

[husaberg]

Thanks for that Husaberg. I thought the police thing was a thing of the past as they won't run the checks for you any more. Someone I know is going through the process in Wgtn, so I will use the same path myself. The most difficult part seems to be finding the right people for each step.

Mine was years ago. last i heard it was pretty much the same though. post the process on here when you have done it.
I remember having to tell the WOF guy what the laws were for older bikes with indicators etc.

[Voltaire]

Join vcc
Evidence from manufacturer that was sent to NZ
Stat dec. police not required now
Old wof or old plate may be useful if still on system
More paperwork the better
Then vin process
Thats why rego on hold is worth’s grand.
Might be other ways but that works.
ts 185..... would need some sentimental value😂

[Dadpole]

ts 185..... would need some sentimental value😂

The value is in the fun of riding it.

[Voltaire]

Cleaned up clutch, replaced silicon with gaskets.
Went for another 100 mile run, happy enough on motorway at 55 mph, vibration sets in and mental image of other 500 crankcase with holes punched by snapped rod.
For a bike with virtually no rear suspension and questionable teles, it goes well on twisting backroads. The BMW throttle on thru corners assists.
No oil leaks today, weeps don’t count.
Rebuilt BTH is amazing, easy starter.
Only annoying issues are idle speed too high despite slide fully down, wondering if auto advance springs are weak keeping it advanced at idle ?
Front brake needs a skim and some pad arcing.
On the whole no worse than a 500 single Enfield.
Ready for NYD run to Kaiaua me thinks.

[F5 Dave]

Probably just the carb is worn and the slide let's past a bunch more air than expected

[Voltaire]

Probably just the carb is worn and the slide let's past a bunch more air than expected

Could be, on the never ending to do list.

[jellywrestler]

Lesson there is don't buy a bike that " needs re registering" unless it was imported pre 1999 as you need to jump thru
more hoops to get it re vinned..

what extra hoops?

[Voltaire]

Front brake switch ( lack off)
No indicators
I now have a exemption card.
Only applies to post 1999 imports.

[Motu]

A sprung seat is better on a rigid, of course it's the first thing I got rid of, in hind sight, and spending a bit of time on my wife's T100, the sprung seat is better. You can just let the bike float around under you, none of that jarring stuff is transferred to the rider. The BTH is a classy mag, I used to snap up every one I came across...but good pickups were hard to find. The Monoblock was a superior carb, the slide is supported over a block, so wear is not really a problem like the concentric, but the slide is thin and easily damaged. Check the idle jet is fully seated. If it's got an oil pressure telltale button, you'll always have an oil weep - before smartphones and GPS were available to us, we could distract ourselves from traffic conditions by checking oil pressure while riding.

[caseye]

Hey Volly! if you've a mind too I'd be a starter for kaiaua tomorra!
:yes::yes::yes::yes::yes:

[Voltaire]

It’s a NYD VCC run.

[Voltaire]

A sprung seat is better on a rigid, of course it's the first thing I got rid of, in hind sight, and spending a bit of time on my wife's T100, the sprung seat is better. You can just let the bike float around under you, none of that jarring stuff is transferred to the rider. The BTH is a classy mag, I used to snap up every one I came across...but good pickups were hard to find. The Monoblock was a superior carb, the slide is supported over a block, so wear is not really a problem like the concentric, but the slide is thin and easily damaged. Check the idle jet is fully seated. If it's got an oil pressure telltale button, you'll always have an oil weep - before smartphones and GPS were available to us, we could distract ourselves from traffic conditions by checking oil pressure while riding.

The sprung hub seems to do some work as suspension...
Front forks clunk over large bumps so they are best avoided.
My new Guru thought the high idle was more likely the Monobloc running lean with air whistling past the slide , which F5 Dave flagged.
So put the pre monobloc back on with a new 140 main and it sure runs better and even idles.
Apologies to Lucas for blaming the AAU although I'd prefer a manual one for the BTH.
The oil pressure tell tale seems to keep the oil in, unlike the head gasket.
Yeah.... looking down by your foot seems an odd place for an oil pressure indicator, nearly as useful as the gear change one by your foot.
Got really adventurous and ran it up to over 70 MPH on a private road under controlled conditions, seemed stable enough although it felt very fast and the vibration was very noticeable.

[Voltaire]

Great day down the coast on the Tiger with the VCC annual NYD Fish and Chip run.
Clocked up just over 120 miles taking it to 550 since recommission in early December.
Comfortable cruising speed is between 80 and 100 kmph, after that the vibration starts to get annoying.
Front tele forks work adequately but have an annoying clunk on rebound on large bumps.
The Sprung Hub seems to get on with the job and offers a degree of suspension.
Steering is good and you can crank it over in the corners more than you would expect.
Rear brake is 8" and works well, front is 7" and being a 1/2 width pretty poor.


Parts availability is pretty good for these and I'm going 21st century next with positive earth 6 Volt LED lights so as to give the 70 less than eager some incentive to do some work.
The pre Monoblock is working ok but needs a new main jet block as a bit rich, fortunately you can get new Amal parts.
Mitas tyres are good period look and only $100 each.

The fish and chips were good, washed down with L and P.

344065

[husaberg]

You are indeed spoilt with the carb which is i guess a 276.The entire carb is still in production by amal.
PRICES
276 model : £334.00
289 model (dependant on specification) from £334.00 – £380.00
https://surreycycles.com/carburettors/amal-276/

[Grumph]

I don't think those forks have a top-out buffer spring. Parts book will tell you.
It's easy enough to cut an inch or so of old shock spring and put it above the bottom bush on the stanchion.
Alternatively, a tapered urethane bush on there will do the same job.

The AMC teledraulics I have apart at present have a buffer spring - and rubber limit stop buffers too.
Much more refined - and expensive.

I'm still after a pre-unit Triumph rear wheel....or just a hub complete.

[Voltaire]

118 miles today, Scenic Drive, Helensville for coffee, back via shore and ( drum roll) the Harbour Bridge and motorway to Penrose.
Might look at some repop Hella bar end indicators for city use.
Also ordering set pos earth led lights to ease joes load.

[Ginge09]

I agree with the indicators.

Hand signals out in the country towns are fine, but in the city...it’s a better option to keep the hands on the bars.

LED polarity on an old Triumph needs some thought but I’m sure you are across that.

[Kickaha]

Front brake switch ( lack off)

I put Magura levers on the BSA and apart from the fact the originals are shitty rubbish the other reason was a front brake light switch can be fitted



LED polarity on an old Triumph needs some thought.

6v LED stuff is easy to get for them in either - or + earth

[husaberg]

118 miles today, Scenic Drive, Helensville for coffee, back via shore and ( drum roll) the Harbour Bridge and motorway to Penrose.
Might look at some repop Hella bar end indicators for city use.
Also ordering set pos earth led lights to ease joes load.

What about those headlights with the built in Leds whats the OEM 7 inch.
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Same with the tail light a half clever dude could add the indicators to a pattern taillight. one of these later Lucas ones would make a good starting point
https://www.trademe.co.nz/motors/motorbikes/parts-for-sale/other/listing-2493361896.htm
344223

[Voltaire]

Rode the Tiger 100 around on Saturday, will be good when the jet kit arrives from Amal as runs lumpy around town with its richness.
Other bikes are starting to get jealous.

Stripped down the modified R90/S forks and reduced the air gap to 100 ml to see if that would improve the harshness, not sure why it only had 50mm, probably just added in the stock amount of 5 wt without subtracting the heavier springs and sportsvalve space.
Has adjustable rebound and compression internals along with .66kg/mm linear springs.
Sunday took the R90/S for a run up Woodcocks road and it was a lot nicer to ride over large bumps which on SH 16 there are many.
Called into Kumeu Hot Rod show, never been before and its huge.
Never seen so many beardy blokes with black singlets and wrap around shades before either.
Clearly Hot Rodders/Bikes don't understand the terms overcapitalisation or ROI.
My fav was a late 50's stockish Plymouth Fury.

[Paul in NZ]

Just buy a new amal premium - they are really sooo much better

[Kickaha]

Just buy a new amal premium - they are really sooo much better

So is a Mikuni

[Bonez]

So is a Mikuni
I hear those ones that start with a K are quite good as well. Used 4 today without any bother at all.

[Voltaire]

Just buy a new amal premium - they are really sooo much better

I have those on the Norton, they are great.


So is a Mikuni

You'd put a Mikuni on a BSA?:nya:


I hear those ones that start with a K are quite good as well. Used 4 today without any bother at all.

If I wanted to put Japanese parts on a bike, I'd buy a Japanese bike :lol:

[Bonez]

There was a nice Triumph 500 on TM the other day at a good price,

[Bonez]

[QUOTE=Voltaire;1131152160]I have those on the Norton, they are great.



You'd put a Mikuni on a BSA?:nya:



If I wanted to put Japanese parts on a bike, I'd buy Kinda like me having Konis pon the CB. This Jap vs the rest thing is soooo old. Folk just need to get over it. That goes both ways BTW.

The current Triumph marque wouldn't exist if John Bloor hadn't insisted his engineers go to Japan and find out about thier manufacturing and production line techniques. In other words it's not the Triumph of yesteryear dispite what folk imagine what the reality is.

[Voltaire]

Who is John Bloor?
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[Bonez]

John Bloor was the multi-millionaire who bought the Triumph name(note-not the company) and set the new Triumph marque up originally with triples and four cylinder 4-stroke bikes. https://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/reviews/triumph/john-bloor-ultimate-triumph/ Later they bought out the parallel twin series after Kawazaki dropped the W650 on the market.The W650 at the time was touted by some of the press as more "Triumph than a Triumph". Did you sleep though the the late '80s early 90s and miss it? It was all over the M/C press. Any relation between old Triumph and new Triumph is purely asthetic and marketing hype. The most perfect and ultimate illusion in the motorcycle industry you could say.

Even now they don't have the rights to affix the original Triumph badges on the new bikes.

[Kickaha]

You'd put a Mikuni on a BSA?:nya:

At some stage I will be, nothing wrong with Amal but if I'm going to put a new carb on it'll be something I can buy bits for off the shelf locally

[Voltaire]

John Bloor was the multi-millionaire who bought the Triumph name(note-not the company) and set the new Triumph marqe up originally with triples and four cylinder 4-stroke bikes. https://www.carolenash.com/insidebikes/reviews/triumph/john-bloor-ultimate-triumph/ Later they bought out the parallel twin series after Kawazaki dropped the W650 on the market.The W650 at the time was touted by some of the press as more "Triumph than a Triumph". Did you sleep though the the late '80s early 90s and miss it? It was all over the M/C press. Any relation between old Triumph and new Triumph is purely asthetic and marketing hype. The most perfect and ultimate illusion in the motorcycle industry you could say.

Even now they don't have the rights to affix the original Triumph badges on the new bikes.

Well.... new Triumphs, well I never, what next ... new Norton’s.

[Bonez]

Well.... new Triumphs, well I never, what next ... new Norton’s.At least Enfield have a basicly continuous liniage of production. Not started decades after the old marque died off

Don't get me wrong. I like the variaty of bikes we have to chose from but be realistic about the Companies real history and not marketing bull shit.

Looks like the new Norton marque is going down the toilet anyway.