The reason for the season

[F5 Dave]

Happy Sol Invictus.

Sun God.

25 December was his celebration..

some much later Pope tried to suppress Roman worshippers of a Pagan God so invented a birthday party for baby jezuz. The early Jews and Christians were quite against celebration of birthdays. There is no known date for the birthday of jesus. Everything you have been told about Christmas is a lie perpetuating over centuries.

Merry Sol Invictus.

At least you can open the curtain in the morning and feel his warmth.

[nerrrd]

Can I just say that discrediting one religious celebration by citing another, earlier religious celebration is not the strongest argument against religious celebrations.

[MaxPenguin]

What the fuck has Christmas got to do with religion anymore?

[mashman]

HORUS
An Ethiopian-Sudanese God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 3,000 YEARS before Jesus.

BUDDHA
A Nepal God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 563 YEARS before Jesus.

KRISHNA
An Indian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 900 YEARS before Jesus.

ZARATHUSTRA
An Iranian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 1,000 YEARS before Jesus.

HERCULES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 800 YEARS before Jesus.

MITHRA
A Persian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin- 600 YEARS before Jesus.

DIONYSUS
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 500 YEARS before Jesus.

THAMMUZ
A Babylonian God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 400 YEARS before Jesus.

HERMES
A Greek God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.

ADONIS
A Phoenician God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 200 YEARS before Jesus.

JESUS CHRIST
A Roman God, born 25th December, by a Virgin around 300 AD.

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Hardly surprising that we all celebrate it ha ha haaaaaa.......

[oldrider]

Read your thread/post had no idea so I asked Google?:- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZKidBymj3A - Clearly - This guy doesn't share your point of view? - :confused:

[F5 Dave]

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is.

The story of Santa Claus is interesting though. The Coca cola story is a bit of a myth.

[ellipsis]

...while others did whatever they do on xmas day, I had a very peaceful day, home alone...cut a hedge, dug out masses of ivy growing over our fence from the property next door and contemplated digging the garlic up...the hedge was a real arsehole and every time I drew more blood from my hands and arms JC got a mention...mainly in a derogatory manner...If anyone was listening they probably thought that JC's middle name was Fuckin...

[jasonu]

Santa bought me a new BBQ and sound bar.

[mashman]

Just pointing out how ridiculous it is.

Sunday was a day of rest and worship (gettin' pissed or ridin' included) and not shopping. Oh how times change.

[pritch]

cut a hedge, dug out masses of ivy growing over our fence from the property next door...the hedge was a real arsehole and every time I drew more blood from my hands and arms JC got a mention....

Phoned a friend in Auckland yesterday, he too had a battle with ivy during which he lost some blood. Reminded me that I have a bougainvillea that needs a haircut and it does not give up without a struggle.

People seeing me out with my dog could be forgiven for thinking his name was Jesus. I would have been heard often to exclaim, "Jeeezus dog!"

[slofox]

Reminded me that I have a bougainvillea that needs a haircut and it does not give up without a struggle.

I have one of those as well. I HATE cutting it because it cuts me back. Just like the fucking roses do.

I'm pretty sure some of those plants are sentient...:devil2:

[HenryDorsetCase]

Santa bought me a new BBQ and sound bar.

Oooh what sort of barbecue? I am probably going to buy a Weber Performer with my Mitre 10 vouchers.

[skippa1]

Oooh what sort of barbecue? I am probably going to buy a Weber Performer with my Mitre 10 vouchers.
I have a Weber Q. Does a mighty leg of lamb roast

[jasonu]

Oooh what sort of barbecue? I am probably going to buy a Weber Performer with my Mitre 10 vouchers.

Dunno yet, still in the box. I'm gonna put it together and burn summat on it this weekend. If it's any good I'll be sure to bore you with the details.

[george formby]

A mate has just opened a BBQ shop in the Bay of Islands, BBQ BOI funnily enough.

This is one brand he stocks Big Green Eggs (https://biggreenegg.co.nz/), they are epic and very spendy.

He also has other brands from Mercka. Off sets, grills and ovens. Different types of wood, charcoal, briquettes, rubs, marinades and trinkets.

It's awesome to see NZ embracing proper BBQ without gas bottles.

My Weber kettle is still going strong after 7 years but I'm really tempted by a small off set grill and smoker. Summit I can get a wee pig into.

[jasonu]

A mate has just opened a BBQ shop in the Bay of Islands, BBQ BOI funnily enough.

This is one brand he stocks Big Green Eggs (https://biggreenegg.co.nz/), they are epic and very spendy.

He also has other brands from Mercka. Off sets, grills and ovens. Different types of wood, charcoal, briquettes, rubs, marinades and trinkets.

It's awesome to see NZ embracing proper BBQ without gas bottles.

My Weber kettle is still going strong after 7 years but I'm really tempted by a small off set grill and smoker. Summit I can get a wee pig into.

I've seen the Green Egg ceramic cooker around here but not tried one. They do come highly recomended by those that own them. They start at around $600 for the full size.
I've got a pellet cooker from https://www.campchef.com/ I use the piss out of it from jerkey to pizza to brisket. Works really well.

[F5 Dave]

No point in hot plates I reckon. My bbq needs replacement but it's ok. Have a grate covered in pumice above the flame. Fat drips down on pumice and smokes. Use a roasting dish for a cover.
Man at pub in Wanganui after races. Good day watching motorcycle racing.

[Katman]

Thank fuck for these important threads.

KB would be totally fucked otherwise.

[jasonu]

Thank fuck for these important threads.

KB would be totally fucked otherwise.

It's called a conversation about non motorcycling things in a non motorcycling section.
Better than what the Grace thread has unfortunately turned into once the turd showed up.

[Voltaire]

I witnessed a large religious event yesterday and which saw all of the different ethnic groups celebrating as one.
Yes, was busy at the Boxing Day sales.
Supercheap had 30% off, but as on foot I was able to resist the lure of savings.
Maybe instead of dropping bombs, Westfield Vouchers might bring world peace.

[F5 Dave]

Boxing day has sales? Never been to one. Always the pilgrimage to Wanganui to worship at the alter of good racing with my other brothers. Taking the long way back over a couple of days.

[pritch]

It's awesome to see NZ embracing proper BBQ without gas bottles.



Mine is a small Weber portable, you can take it to the river, beach, or wherever. It'll take a boned out leg of lamb but generally only has some ribs. Which reminds me...

Oddly perhaps, I've never associated BBQ with a gas bottle.

[ellipsis]

...I have a 44 gallon drum, a heavy cast plate that used to be the grill plate in a Chinese restaurant...it gets hot, holds it's heat and cooking on it is like playing squash...I can knock over all the chops, steaks, snags, kebabs,onions and anything else that turns up in a very rapid session...feed an army and then the drum is used for the obligatory, stand around the fire and drink piss into the evening or early hours...not portable, but who the fuck wants to leave home...fuck gas...

[george formby]

Summit like this?

https://scontent.fakl7-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/67845051_10162120022245164_3684451151006138368_n.j pg?_nc_cat=107&_nc_ohc=DQg3_VTNfAwAQn36AxAni1vTj7NGaSvLKYzLRnTglp QNuH2uDvS7WlVLg&_nc_ht=scontent.fakl7-1.fna&oh=666a69a5fb6936e6e38f165385d065e8&oe=5E6EC43F

[ellipsis]

...I've had the odd big saw blade and they work well but I like the heat retention of a heavy piece of cast...I don't need to add any wood once it's at cooking heat, maybe just a few twigs to keep it at it's constant best...I got a saw blade very hot once, it had already become concaved which was great for the drainage straight into the drum...it went from concave to convex in a very hot moment and the meat and stuff ended up on the deck...fucked me off but I could see the funny side too...

[BMWST?]

...I've had the odd big saw blade and they work well but I like the heat retention of a heavy piece of cast...I don't need to add any wood once it's at cooking heat, maybe just a few twigs to keep it at it's constant best...I got a saw blade very hot once, it had already become concaved which was great for the drainage straight into the drum...it went from concave to convex in a very hot moment and the meat and stuff ended up on the deck...fucked me off but I could see the funny side too...
when you get finally annoyed with it just make it concave again by turning it over

[Voltaire]

Boxing day has sales? Never been to one. Always the pilgrimage to Wanganui to worship at the alter of good racing with my other brothers. Taking the long way back over a couple of days.

Ya coulda got 30% off a bike lift :msn-wink:

[Laava]

Thank fuck for these important threads.

KB would be totally fucked otherwise.
You should take a holiday you miserable troll.

[Swoop]

Can I just say that discrediting one religious celebration by citing another, earlier religious celebration is not the strongest argument against religious celebrations.

Pagans had their ideas nicked by the modern delusional fuckwits.
Celebrating the solstice = "we'll have that. Add some bullshit and the deluded will believe the crap".
Easter (Equinox - spring planting, new life from the soil) = "Fucking well nick that as well, we need to get more gold and slaves from the fuckwits. - Bung some twat on a stick so they can worship the knobend".

Looking forward to the end of organised crime oops "religion".

[Laava]

- Bung some twat on a stick so they can worship the knobend".

Looking forward to the end of organised crime oops "religion".
Destiny church anyone?

[oldrider]

Take away religion and set all the current participants "free" - what would our (crime?) statistics etc etc look like? :scratch:

Then again with nowhere to hide - :wait:

[F5 Dave]

Says the site's religious zealot. . .


Well I'm not sure if the sun is a God as such, but it was welcome as it came out to warm us and keep the roads dry. Although there was a short burst of vengeance, and clouds doth appear, then hail. But the sun returnuth and all was well again as we got closer to Masterton.

[Swoop]

Destiny church anyone?
The official degignation of that lot is "Cult".

[roogazza]

yes old school here, bought my original big Weber in 1985 in Austruckinfailure, throw a leg of pork on it every xmas (and every time I do a roast). So its 35 years old now ! I've been to group BBq's where there have been 4 of the buggers cooking at once....

No gas and idiot proof, light it with plenty of fire lighters (the hardest bit !) let it burn off and then throw in the meat. Don't even look at it or raise the lid, after 3 hrs hey presto the perfect pork leg roasted.

[F5 Dave]

Anyhoo. Welcome back glorious SunGod. I have eaten and consumed liquor in your name (or just for fun).

And fuk you to hell lying little cunt Jesus (who very likely didn't exist).

[FJRider]

Anyhoo. Welcome back glorious SunGod. I have eaten and consumed liquor in your name (or just for fun).

And fuk you to hell lying little cunt Jesus (who very likely didn't exist).

Only two years late to answer a thread.

Well done you.

[F5 Dave]

My thread. I've Resurrected it. :devil2:

[Kickaha]

Anyhoo. Welcome back glorious SunGod. I have eaten and consumed liquor in your name (or just for fun).


As did I but I added prescription drugs to make it even more fun

[Moi]

My thread. I've Resurrected it. :devil2:

Wrong seasonal festival...

[R650R]

The official degignation of that lot is "Cult".

About to be redesignated a terrorist organisation after Tamaki silly outburst about child vax clinics...

Merry Christmas and happy new year to all, non believers, agnostic and atheists alike...
May god guide you safely through slovenly greed of packed shopping malls of greed and shepherd you through the back streets to hide your beveragic sins on the holy day.

[F5 Dave]

Wrong seasonal festival...

Are you talking north vs Southern hemisphere? There are plenty of Northern hemisphere traditions we have inherited at the wrong time of year and Christmas is just one of the pagen rituals treated thus.

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"
According to the Philocalian Calendar of 354 a.d., December 25 memorialized the birth of the deity Sol Invictus, the “Unconquerable Sun.” This aptly coincided with the Roman celebration of the winter solstice, the day in which the sun’s apex is closest to the horizon.3 The feast, moreover, fell right within the broader context of Saturnalia, a mid-December revelry in honor of the god Saturn, which lasted a month and included — among other festivities — gift-giving, a common practice in our present holiday season.

Most historians have concluded that the Church decreed that Christmas would be held on December 25 in order to extirpate — or rather baptize — the Roman festival. The ecclesial authorities would have had good reasons for doing so, as many of these pagan holidays enticed the Christian faithful to participate. A Syriac manuscript from the 1100s records the dilemma: “It was a custom of the Pagans to celebrate on the same December 25 the birthday of the Sun, at which they kindled lights in token of festivity. In these solemnities and revelries, the Christians also took part.

“Accordingly, when the doctors of the Church perceived that the Christians had a leaning to this festival, they took counsel and resolved that the true Nativity should be solemnized on that day.”4 Thus, the day honoring the god of the sun would soon be eclipsed by the Son of God; or, as St. Augustine put it, “We hold this day holy, not like the pagans because of the birth of the sun, but because of him who made it.”

The early Church eventually formalized Natalis Christi in 350 a.d. under Pope Julius I.
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[Moi]

Are you talking north vs Southern hemisphere? There are plenty of Northern hemisphere traditions we have inherited at the wrong time of year and Christmas is just one of the pagan rituals treated thus.

Neither northern nor southern.

Like this...

Christmas = birth
Easter = resurrection

[pritch]

About to be redesignated a terrorist organisation after Tamaki silly outburst about child vax clinics...


I note the various news organisations using the word "allegedly." He's actually recorded saying the words. "I'll get the boys to blow it up."
The legal pussy footing seems superfluous.

If the Government has been giving Destiny the courtesies accruing to a church, that should be reconsidered. Violence in pursuit of a political goal is the definition of terrorism.

[R650R]

I note the various news organisations using the word "allegedly." He's actually recorded saying the words. "I'll get the boys to blow it up."
The legal pussy footing seems superfluous.

If the Government has been giving Destiny the courtesies accruing to a church, that should be reconsidered. Violence in pursuit of a political goal is the definition of terrorism.

100% in agreement Pritch. Your last sentence was going to be part of my next post in Jacinda thread about how she will pussyfoot around this because the wrong race is involved and no guns. He should be treated same as the chch import and ALL destiny locations should be undergoing ruatoki style swat team raids.

Allegedly is a standard international journalism convention regardless of how obviously evident something is. Plus you never know what technicality he might get off on and NZ has some peculiarities around defamation law, you can get in trouble for saying something here even if it is true.

[TheDemonLord]

Well Well Well,

It seems we have a Christmas Miracle.

Pritch, R650R and myself all agreeing on something to do with current events/politics.

[F5 Dave]

Neither northern nor southern.

Like this...

Christmas = birth
Easter = resurrection
Oh yeah, that.

Well if you are going to use logic in your argument, I'll not stoop to that.