Gotten

[ust2b]

Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.

[jasonu]

Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.

Take a pill princess.

[Bonez]

It's just a shortened version of Got´ten- to get. Nothing to do with the yanks at all.

Nothing to see here folks. Move along please.

[BadSarah]

Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.Drives me batshit too. Often it appears to be a lack of a decent vocabulary. One american written book I had become (gotten) annoyed with after they used it half a dozen times before I had got (gotten) to the bottom of th page. There's so many wonderful words in the english language: purchased/ acquired/ obtained an item, contracted a disease from, became inured to... or just plain got, the past tense of get. The list goes on, this is just lifted (gotten) from the top of my head.

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[GazzaH]

Language is constantly evolving. If you get yer knockers in a twist wiv every lil change, youl pop an artery afore your timezup, guv.

Some of the present-day differences between 'British English' and 'American English' go way back to spellings/pronunciations that were common when the Brits first discovered the continent (OK, invaded!). Back then, fewer people were literate, hence some of the written differences. Others have crept in since and are still creeping in.

Same thing with 'Kiwi English', bro, and 'Aussie English', cobber. There are pronunciations and 'turns of phrase' that are uniquely NZ and Oz, just as there are uniquely British ones. Even within the countries, there are regional differences - not just 'accents' but different ways of expressing things using particular words and terms that are uncommon or unknown ("unknowen") elsewhere.

Same again with txt-spk, emoticons :shit:, jargon, pro' terms, abbrev's, acronyms and more. Within social groups, language is simply a means of communicating. So long as the meaning is sufficiently clear to the people directly involved, the opinions of third parties are largely irrelevant ... unless the content concerns them.

Despite the extreme care in drafting and approving laws and regulations, ambiguous language is a massive problem for the legal profession - well, a massive opportunity for those intent on exploiting the uncertainties to argue one way or the other (at the client's expense, naturally).

As if that's not enough already, our writing varies too. Can you even guess the meaning of those beautiful medieval illustrated manufcriptf, written with extreme care by experts of the day? Even on the Web, some of us prefer serif or nonserif fonts, different sizes, colours (or colors) and more.

Embrace the diversity! Language is a fascinating tool!

[F5 Dave]

So nice to see your face again
Tell me how long has it been
Since you've been here
(since you've been here)
You look so different than before
But still the person I adore
Frozen with fear
I'm out of love but I'll take it from the past
I'll let out words cause I'm sure It'll never last

And I've been saving
These last words for one last miracle
But now I'm not sure
I can't save you if
You don't let me
You just get me like I never
Been gotten before

[F5 Dave]

Maybe it's the bitter wind
A chill from the Pacific rim
That brought you this way
(that brought you my way)
Do not make me think of him
The way he touch your fragile skin
That hunts me everyday
I'm out of love but I can't forget the past
I'm out of words but I'm sure it'll never last

And I've been saving
These last words for one last miracle

[F5 Dave]

But now I'm not sure
I can't save you if
You don't let me
You just get me like I never
Been gotten before

[FJRider]

Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired.

The past tense form of get is got. The past participle of got is gotten. A past participle is a word that's used with had, have or has. Therefore, it's perfectly acceptable to use gotten if it's being used with its companion word. ... That said, I still don't like the word. But still use it. (But I haven't gotten around to NOT using it)

It's in the dictionary ... so you can use it in Scrabble. Therefore it is a real word.

[pritch]

Language changes over time it's true. Almost every day now I see posts, usually US in origin where the letter 'd' is missed off the end of a word. What is that about? Perhaps we should resist change that's too sudden.

A few years ago some NZ teachers wanted to make US spelling acceptable in our schools because that was the language computers used. These luddites were blissfully unaware that the language is just a setting and that it's easily changed.

[Big Dog]

Language changes over time it's true. Almost every day now I see posts, usually US in origin where the letter 'd' is missed off the end of a word. What is that about? Perhaps we should resist change that's too sudden.

A few years ago some NZ teachers wanted to make US spelling acceptable in our schools because that was the language computers used. These luddites were blissfully unaware that the language is just a setting and that it's easily changed.

Maybe they are expressing their chagrin about not having gotten the D for a while?

Be fair, NZ English has only been in most apps for a couple of years.
It's still not a native option in many applications.

Worse the grammar checkers are hopeless.

Rely on spelling and grammar check? Yeah nah.

[pritch]

Be fair, NZ English has only been in most apps for a couple of years.


British English has been around long enough - and was near enough. The spellings were the same as NZ, and it was the spelling which was their issue.

[ust2b]

Take a pill princess.

Hit a nerve did I sweetie?

[FJRider]

How many here have NEVER said ... "I haven't gotten around to it yet" ... ??? :beer:

I don't see ... or know ... how the Americans could be blamed for inventing the word.

I might have once know ... but I've probably forgotten ... :lol:

[jasonu]

Hit a nerve did I sweetie?

Not at all m8
Tinakoko
Chur bro.

[ust2b]

How many here have NEVER said ... "I haven't gotten around to it yet" ... ??? :beer:

That would be me.

I have not done it yet.

No not yet. I will get around to it soon.

I haven't managed to find the time to do it yet.

I will do it when I find the fucking time :bleh:

[onearmedbandit]

That would be me.

I have not done it yet.

No not yet. I will get around to it soon.

I haven't managed to find the time to do it yet.

I will do it when I find the fucking time :bleh:

A quick internet search suggests it was in use in England before and around the time that America was colonized. Just America kept using it where as it's popularity died off somewhat in England. So I don't think you can blame the American's for it. Guess you were wrong.

[FJRider]

That would be me.

I have not done it yet.

No not yet. I will get around to it soon.

I haven't managed to find the time to do it yet.

I will do it when I find the fucking time :bleh:

Have you been to your local pub ... and gotten blind drunk ??

[Bonez]

A quick internet search suggests it was in use in England before and around the time that America was colonized. Just America kept using it where as it's popularity died off somewhat in England. So I don't think you can blame the American's for it. Guess you were wrong.Dear we say he had gotten it wrong?

[onearmedbandit]

Dear we say he had gotten it wrong?

Indeed. He probably could have gotten a better understanding had he researched its history in the first place.

[Bonez]

Indeed. He probably could have gotten a better understanding had he researched its history in the first place.Unfortunately these sudo-intererlectual types rarely admit they have gotten anything incorrect. It's gotten really bad.

[Voltaire]

like um ah ay like.:yawn:

like a daily huddle to share learnings with the wider team....

[ust2b]

like um ah ay like.:yawn:

like a daily huddle to share learnings with the wider team....

I kinda like what you did there.

[Bonez]

I kinda like what you did there.Do you actually own/ride a bike or just think KB is an extension of Facebook?

[ust2b]

Do you actually own/ride a bike or just think KB is an extension of Facebook?

Geeze, are you always such a prickly old cunt?

I got my bike license over 40 years ago, and have used a motorcycle as my sole mode of transport for a large part of my adult life.

Currently, I have to make do with my dream bike as my working life leaves me no time for riding.

I have a wealth of knowledge and experience relating to Motorcycles. A friend pointed me to this forum, so here I am.


If I want to post a thread in a Rant and Rave section of this forum I fucking well will.

[Bonez]

WoW! I'm glad I hit a nerve.

Generally most folk give a wee introduction instead of behaving like a snowflake in their mummys basement,

With that being said welcome to KB. Pays not to be too sencitive around here or your feelings wil get hurt very easily.

[Ixion]

Gotten is a perfectly valid and legitimate word. The past participle of the verb "to get". It was used by Chaucer, and Shakespeare. And numerous times in the King James Bible. There is no more authorative imprimatur of good English usage than the KJB.

Those who use 'got' as the past participle are simply incorrect. In this case Cousin Jonathan is correct, the self appointed pedants are wrong.

[caseye]

Hello there Ixion, long time no see you posting up,lovely to see you, lovely.
:nya::nya:

[jasonu]

WoW! I'm glad I hit a nerve.

Generally most folk give a wee introduction instead of behaving like a snowflake in their mummys basement,

With that being said welcome to KB. Pays not to be too sencitive around here or your feelings wil get hurt very easily.

I dunno mate, I think he has gotten the feel of the place and will fit right in.

[ust2b]

Generally most folk give a wee introduction instead of behaving like a snowflake in their mummys basement,

Pays not to be too sencitive around here or your feelings wil get hurt very easily.

If you would like to check out new member speak you will find my introductory post to the Forum. I like snowflakes and don't have any feels left.

[Bonez]

Call that an intro? That post looks like it was done by a 13 year old who has had too much shirbit.

[ust2b]

Call that an intro? That post looks like it was done by a 13 you old who has had too much shirbit.

I am flattered.

[Voltaire]

Call that an intro? That post looks like it was done by a 13 you old who has had too much shirbit.

Salty:msn-wink::psst:

[Bonez]

Salty:msn-wink::psst:When you are over 60 you get like that.

[JimO]

Gotten. This word drives me crazy. Stupid American bastardisation of our written word.

Example "And that's before we have even gotten into the fact that she was in a new country with no family and without her longtime, trusted circle of friends."

gotten into the fact!!!??? The Editor should be fired. you must be guttered

[ust2b]

you must be guttered

Hey susse! One of my absolute, all time, best ever words. I am guttered to admit how much I love it... Guttering to see it yoused like this :D

[ellipsis]

...I'll begotten fame is fame nonetheless...I wonder if those who speak Espanol or Francais have such debates...I think not...we who speak a cobbled language of our Norse, Teutonic, Frankish and Brythonic ancestors don't really have an ownership of where or how our language evolves...it has always been a dialectic and situational progression of how it all works...evolution 101...

[pete376403]

I can live with "gotten" but what really gets me going is hearing tv / radio people talking about "communiddy" or "eletriciddy" or any other word ending in ..'ity" (yes that too, but "tiddys" doesn't get used on radio much)

[ellipsis]

I can live with "gotten"


...thank fuck for that...tiddy's is what babies want most and girls seem to be able to get over it at some point but boys never seem to...always been an eyes man myself, windows to the soul...

[caseye]

...thank fuck for that...tiddy's is what babies want most and girls seem to be able to get over it at some point but boys never seem to...always been an eyes man myself, windows to the soul...

Na Tiddy's is where tits At!:2thumbsup:2thumbsup

[jasonu]

I can live with "gotten" but what really gets me going is hearing tv / radio people talking about "communiddy" or "eletriciddy" or any other word ending in ..'ity" (yes that too, but "tiddys" doesn't get used on radio much)

Thirdeen.....

When you leave NZ for a while and then come back the accents and colloquialisms sound almost comical.

[Voltaire]

Thirdeen.....

When you leave NZ for a while and then come back the accents and colloquialisms sound almost comical.

Flight of the Conchords did ok with that...ill gotten gains?

Some of those accents on American Pickers are a hoot, although I never can work out *how they make a profit with all the miles and time for a few low margin items



* I do know as I have Googled it ( before someone has a Hussy fit and posts up the bulk of Wikipedia)

[FJRider]

.. If I want to post a thread in a Rant and Rave section of this forum I fucking well will.


This site is for those with an interest in motorcycles ... the wide variety of topics available to discuss in the (off topic) forums is endless. And well within your rights to do so as a member. This simple fact has not got into the mindset of some on this site. Some do get it ... and some have just gotten tired of the whole fucking subject.

[jasonu]

Flight of the Conchords did ok with that...ill gotten gains?

Some of those accents on American Pickers are a hoot, although I never can work out *how they make a profit with all the miles and time for a few low margin items



* I do know as I have Googled it ( before someone has a Hussy fit and posts up the bulk of Wikipedia)

FOTC that was some funny shit!!!

I used to work out of Mobile Alabama. Sometimes I wondered exactly what language they were speaking.

[oldrider]

True! - :Offtopic: - Forum: - Rant or Rave - Should have "gotten" that by now! :rolleyes:
This site is for those with an interest in motorcycles ... the wide variety of topics available to discuss in the (off topic) forums is endless. And well within your rights to do so as a member. This simple fact has not got into the mindset of some on this site. Some do get it ... and some have just gotten tired of the whole fucking subject.

[Bonez]

Na Tiddy's is where tits At!:2thumbsup:2thumbsupIn the olden days we called them NORKS! If you said it in ear shot of said female you'd have gotten a slap.

[ust2b]

In the olden days we called them NORKS! If you said it in ear shot of said female you'd have gotten a slap.

Probably well deserved :D I like Boobies myself.

[FJRider]

Probably well deserved :D I like Boobies myself.

Any more than a mouthful is a waste ... ;)

[oldrider]

Has anybody gotten one of these? (one of my first legal bikes was an 1950 RE 350 ridged rear axle) Nostalgia has gotten a hold of me watching this review! :ride::love:

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[pritch]

Has anybody gotten one of these? (one of my first legal bikes was an 1950 RE 350 ridged rear axle) Nostalgia has gotten a hold of me watching this review! :ride::love:

Check out Itchy Boots on YouTube, start with series 1 episode 1. She bought a Himalaya in India and basically rode it home to Holland by roundabout route. She couldn't register it there because it wasn't Euro 4 compliant. The dealer took her bike, boxes and all, for a display and give her a new one.

She's currently riding Patagonia to Alaska. Episodes generally last 20 minutes or so.