Yamaha Tenere 700

[Stylo]

Been reading a lot about new the Tenere , been a while since I've been excited about a new bike coming on stream.

Back in the late '80's I had a blue Tenere XT600 with the big tank. wish I still had it . Haven't had a ride on the new one yet but, I'm very tempted.

I like the price and the fact that that it's not overloaded with technology. Start it up and ride . Just what the doctor ordered.

[Bonez]

I'm sure it will be a ball of fun.

[george formby]

I've been following T7 threads on other forums, apart from a couple of wee things it is praised very highly. Tank range, seat, suspension a bit soft for heavier riders are commented on.

I'm looking at replacing my TDM with one at some point.

Chatting with T7 owners who have ridden TDM's they reckon the motor feels like it has more torque and more fun at higher revs. I was pretty much sold when I read that.

There are a few videos of T7's being punted pretty hard off road and the riders love it. A common comment is that it feels like a big WR450. Seems to be a lot of bike for the money!

[Jeeper]

https://youtu.be/pVu3k8I5tdg

This was posted a few days ago. Rear spring being soft was called out at the end.

[george formby]

Yeah, seen the videos and agree . Never ridden a WR450 but I'm old school with probably 200 hours on the KX500 in my dirt bike days. The Tenere seems a lot of bike for the money. Suspension seems a bit soft, I'll take one for a squirt maybe next week. Need some room in the shed though, one bike needs to go.

Yeah, a few of us need bigger sheds.

I rode big (ish) single cylinder trailies for many years, I loved their versatility. After getting into multi cylinder bikes I've never wanted to go back to a single.

Now, I'm just happy with parallel twins for my style of riding, which is not particularly quick..

I reckon the T7 could be the best of both worlds for me, the versatility of an old school big trailie and the character of the P-twin.

Heavier or loaded up riders in Aus are just changing the rear spring on the shock. Kits are already available for the forks.

Only ever ridden a 500 2t once (CR 500E)...... Startling, I couldn't hand it back quick enough. IIRC it was road legal. It was campaigned in the British Enduro Championship back in the day and some of the events had public road links between timed sections.

Jeeper, that was one of the vids I had in mind. Good review.

[Jeeper]

Yamaha XSRs had bad rear suspension as well. I used to have the XSR700 (same engine as in the Tenere 700 and MT07), but hated the suspension.

[george formby]

Yamaha XSRs had bad rear suspension as well. I used to have the XSR700 (same engine as in the Tenere 700 and MT07), but hated the suspension.

This has been common for a lot of bikes from Yamaha. They make stonking engines and keep the price down with very average suspension. Was the same back in the day with RD's and the like.

I get the impression that the T7 is fine as is for average riders, it's when ridden hard off road or heavily loaded that the suspension becomes the weak link....

<_<

[Black Knight]

Nothin' wrong with XSR suspension Jeepers if you tune it to your weight-unless of course you are a fatty in which case you will need to buy some bits,or lose some weight

[Jeeper]

Nothin' wrong with XSR suspension Jeepers if you tune it to your weight-unless of course you are a fatty in which case you will need to buy some bits,or lose some weightI wonder why do a large number of owners around the world have complained about the spring rate being too soft. They must all be fatties I suppose. So what's a fatty in this case? Any rider above 80 kgs, 'cause that's what the factory suspension was set-up for.

Oh, and lets not count the rider gear or the stuff in the bags at all. If you do, chances are the rider will need to be 50kgs to be ideal. Hmmm, when was I 50kgs (being 185cms, can't remember).

Suspension on MT07 and XSR700 was revised in 2018 for the American market because you can't find a 50kg American. Preload adjustment does not fix spring rate deficiencies. If you have to change suspension on a brand new bike to enjoy, then factory suspension is not fit for purpose (i.e. rubbish).

This is all IMHO and YEMV.

[george formby]

:laugh:
You and I are not exactly heavy weights BK.

I guess the logistics of springing bikes for specific markets would be a PITA and customers below or above the "average" would still moan.

I am surprised that the T7 is not sprung for an 80kg rider and luggage..

Yamaha may expect that most T7's will only be going to Starbucks.

Any hoo, at the price point it is, loads of room and a bit of cash available for personalising compared to the competition.

[nzspokes]

Nothin' wrong with XSR suspension Jeepers if you tune it to your weight-unless of course you are a fatty in which case you will need to buy some bits,or lose some weightI had a MT09 2019 in bits on the weekend. I can say there is plenty wrong with it.

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[Ulsterkiwi]

I wonder why do a large number of owners around the world have complained about the spring rate being too soft. They must all be fatties I suppose. So what's a fatty in this case? Any rider above 80 kgs, 'cause that's what the factory suspension was set-up for.

Oh, and lets not count the rider gear or the stuff in the bags at all. If you do, chances are the rider will need to be 50kgs to be ideal. Hmmm, when was I 50kgs (being 185cms, can't remember).

Suspension on MT07 and XSR700 was revised in 2018 for the American market because you can't find a 50kg American. Preload adjustment does not fix spring rate deficiencies. If you have to change suspension on a brand new bike to enjoy, then factory suspension is not fit for purpose (i.e. rubbish).

This is all IMHO and YEMV.

Different bike but at a time I was very keen on a new Tracer. I found the back end really soft but was putting it down to it being the demo bike and not set up for me. The salesman was away when I got back so I spoke to the main mechanic at the dealership about the bike. He looked at me and said I would probably need an aftermarket shock straight away. (1.96m tall and 115kgs)Yamaha make them soft he explained and with the shocks proximity to the exhaust system the oil in the shock got a lot of extra stick. The suspension would be worked overly hard from the get go. I thought that was disappointing on a brand new $18k bike. Made me wonder what else wasn’t up to scratch and didn’t pursue the bike. Interesting to see the same point of weakness appearing in this model.


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[tri boy]

I had a MT09 2019 in bits on the weekend. I can say there is plenty wrong with it.

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Do tell.
I;m looking at the MT09 or XSR900 at the moment. Havn't ridden either yet.
(like triples)

[MaxPenguin]

Do tell.
I;m looking at the MT09 or XSR900 at the moment. Havn't ridden either yet.
(like triples)

Have seen a few of them ridden pretty hard off road in the last few weeks, and the consensus it that the suspension, and especially the front is too soft and needs work. Par for course for most dualsport bikes in my experience.

[timg]

344698Very nice bike. No frills but competent for what I'm likely to use it for. The 'new' Transalp 650 ;)

[george formby]

344698Very nice bike. No frills but competent for what I'm likely to use it for. The 'new' Transalp 650 ;)


With full luggage and a pillion, is it better or worse than a Transalp over jumps?

:wait:

[nzspokes]

Do tell.
I;m looking at the MT09 or XSR900 at the moment. Havn't ridden either yet.
(like triples)

The pistons in the fork are stupid. Horrid machining on them and the ports are tiny.

New pistons and revalve with correct springs and its a new bike.

[george formby]

A recent test ride.........:crazy:


https://youtu.be/eDxBGc9TD4c

[pete376403]

A recent test ride.........:crazy:



It's not how they fly... it's how they land

[george formby]

It's not how they fly... it's how they land

If they were meant to fly they would have wings, aye?:laugh:

Apparently the bike is stock suspension but re-sprung and valved. Pretty good for a 200kg+ budget bike.

Admittedly, a 6'7" world class trials and hard enduro rider makes it look good. And then some.

Be fucked if I would ride one on Northland single track or try for air time. Yeah, nah.:sweatdrop

I'm only 6'2".

[Laava]

That Pol Tarres vid is excellent. Fuck me that guy has some skills...

[george formby]

That Pol Tarres vid is excellent. Fuck me that guy has some skills...

He's a either a couple of kumaras short of a hangi or massively endowed in the kiwifruit department, too.

I got the impression a couple of times in the vid that he spotted an opportunity and just has a crack at it. :shit:

With a fierce 250 2t enduro and a trials bike at my disposal, I'm humbled by how little I could ride of what he did on either of them.

I also get the impression he paid for the bike himself, no proof but quite a few posts from him and his mates on social media imply that.

Very interesting bike!

[george formby]

Those of you on socalled media (insta and facething) check out how Pol is doing at Romaniacs on his T7. :not: Bugger all footage on youtube yet.

When I looked earlier he was 21st in the Bronze class...

What he is doing with a 200kg bike beggars belief.

[george formby]

The stair case scene..


https://youtu.be/SOweaz6HJ8I

A mere 200kg. :gob:

[Gremlin]

Those of you on socalled media (insta and facething) check out how Pol is doing at Romaniacs on his T7. :not: Bugger all footage on youtube yet.
Can't find the one I saw, where the riders are laughing and impressed at what he's up to.
This is pretty good tho


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XryXmWwwI-U