View Full Version : Why do diesel prices vary so much?
SaferRides
12th February 2020, 20:28
Bought some diesel at the Huntly Z today. It was 35c per litre cheaper than at our local Z in Auckland.
With today's 10c Pumped discount it was $1.189 per litre. It's been a while since I've seen diesel cheaper than that.
FJRider
12th February 2020, 20:37
Bought some diesel at the Huntly Z today. It was 35c per litre cheaper than at our local Z in Auckland.
With today's 10c Pumped discount it was $1.189 per litre. It's been a while since I've seen diesel cheaper than that.
The price of the fuels sold at fuel outlets (such as gas stations) are allowed to sell at the retail price they choose.
Some prefer to use the fuels as bait for the products they make the money on. Lollies and groceries/food are the high mark-up items.
Probably about the same profit in a bag of Minties as an average tank of diesel.
ellipsis
12th February 2020, 20:42
...the pump fuel prices vary widely I have only just started to note...the price variance between Challenge outlets around here are surprising...17 cents on one recent observation
Berries
12th February 2020, 21:58
Always wondered why an R1 was so slow.
SaferRides
13th February 2020, 01:01
...the pump fuel prices vary widely I have only just started to note...the price variance between Challenge outlets around here are surprising...17 cents on one recent observationThere is a very useful app called Gaspy. (Gas Spy) It shows you prices at nearby petrol stations, but is also great for finding the closest place to buy petrol when the low fuel light comes on in the middle of nowhere.
You can also search by place names when planning a trip.
Highly recommended!
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jasonu
13th February 2020, 03:27
Do you still have to pay RUC's in NZ for diesel you put in your private vehicle?
swarfie
13th February 2020, 05:52
Bought some diesel at the Huntly Z today. It was 35c per litre cheaper than at our local Z in Auckland.
With today's 10c Pumped discount it was $1.189 per litre. It's been a while since I've seen diesel cheaper than that.
Huntly Z is normally dear AF compared to other stations but with the impending opening of the Huntly by-pass expressway they've dropped their prices dramatically. I'm guessing to try and retain some of their local trade. They can afford to take a bath on fuel prices....they've been ripping us off forever.:mad:
mulletman
13th February 2020, 06:12
Do you still have to pay RUC's in NZ for diesel you put in your private vehicle?
Yes you do
SaferRides
13th February 2020, 06:19
Huntly Z is normally dear AF compared to other stations but with the impending opening of the Huntly by-pass expressway they've dropped their prices dramatically. I'm guessing to try and retain some of their local trade. They can afford to take a bath on fuel prices....they've been ripping us off forever.:mad:Yes, it looked like they were getting the junction at the north end of the bypass ready yesterday. I agree about the Huntly Z pricing - they must have made a fortune from that place over the years.
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jasonu
13th February 2020, 08:15
Yes you do
Well that’s fucking stupid.
SaferRides
13th February 2020, 08:32
Well that’s fucking stupid.And expensive. $72 per 1000 km for all vehicles less than 3.5 tons gross. That's more than the diesel costs me!
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Scuba_Steve
13th February 2020, 09:19
The price of the fuels sold at fuel outlets (such as gas stations) are allowed to sell at the retail price they choose.
Some prefer to use the fuels as bait for the products they make the money on. Lollies and groceries/food are the high mark-up items.
Probably about the same profit in a bag of Minties as an average tank of diesel.
Yea sure they are able to... BUT when Z sells the fuel to Huntly Z at 35c per litre cheaper than they sell it to the Z in Auckland it's highly unlikely the Auckland Z is going to match the pricing of the Huntly one & will instead sell it at the same 4% "recommended" margin that the Huntly will also be putting on it.
End of day Z all but dictates the pricing tho if you bitch at them about the price gouging they do they'll give the BS corporate line "all retailers are able to choose their own pricing".
It's hard to "choose your own pricing" when you're getting sold fuel at different prices to the other stations
Kickaha
13th February 2020, 17:08
but with the impending opening of the Huntly by-pass expressway
A bypass is the best thing that could happen to that shit hole
jasonu
13th February 2020, 17:13
And expensive. $72 per 1000 km for all vehicles less than 3.5 tons gross. That's more than the diesel costs me!
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So with the price of the fuel, the RUC's, the extra a diesel car is worth compared to a similar petrol version and the more expensive maintenance a diesel requires, is it still cheaper than driving a petrol vehicle?
FJRider
13th February 2020, 20:30
Yea sure they are able to... BUT when Z sells the fuel to Huntly Z at 35c per litre cheaper than they sell it to the Z in Auckland it's highly unlikely the Auckland Z is going to match the pricing of the Huntly one & will instead sell it at the same 4% "recommended" margin that the Huntly will also be putting on it.
End of day Z all but dictates the pricing tho if you bitch at them about the price gouging they do they'll give the BS corporate line "all retailers are able to choose their own pricing".
It's hard to "choose your own pricing" when you're getting sold fuel at different prices to the other stations
NPD are setting up stations around Otago/Dunedin area. The LARGE unmanned ones are hard to compete with for the small local ones in the same area. Is it "Competition" or "price gouging" ???
If the big names in the game can afford to drop prices ... is the product overpriced ??? It must be if they still show a profit.
And I haven't been to Auckland since 1985. I really don't care what they charge for fuel there.
But also remember ... was there not an extra road tax put on fuels in Auckland (area ??) to subsidise Auckland roads ... quite some time back ... ???
Scuba_Steve
14th February 2020, 07:46
NPD are setting up stations around Otago/Dunedin area. The LARGE unmanned ones are hard to compete with for the small local ones in the same area. Is it "Competition" or "price gouging" ???
If the big names in the game can afford to drop prices ... is the product overpriced ??? It must be if they still show a profit.
And I haven't been to Auckland since 1985. I really don't care what they charge for fuel there.
But also remember ... was there not an extra road tax put on fuels in Auckland (area ??) to subsidise Auckland roads ... quite some time back ... ???
The product is overpriced but what I'm saying is it's not the individual store that's overpricing it, it's the controlling head-office in the OP's case it's Z (the corporate) NOT Z (the station)
pritch
14th February 2020, 07:59
The stations don't make much on gas. A few years ago a new owner took over a local gas station, she wanted someone on the forecourt. She was told by Mobil that she wouldn't make enough money for that. There was only ever the one employee on duty - on the till.
FJRider
14th February 2020, 16:36
The product is overpriced but what I'm saying is it's not the individual store that's overpricing it, it's the controlling head-office in the OP's case it's Z (the corporate) NOT Z (the station)
Z does NOT want to carry the Auckland area road tax. So Auckland vehicle owners get to pay it.
Aucklander's can afford it ... if they can't they can move to Huntly.
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