Another biker down 18/10/05 RIP dude.

[crashe]

NZ Police CommCens Alert 19:10 18-10-2005 North Shore Waitekere Rodney

Location of incident: Red beach, Rodney, North Auckland

Incident Type: Fatal Crash

Fatal road crash.

A male motorcyclist has died after a collision with a car at intersection of Hibiscus Coast Highway and Red beach Road, Red beach, Rodney.

It appeared as though the victim died instantly at the scene. Full circumstances are unclear and the fatal / serious crash team are investigating.

Diversions - The road is open, but down to one lane and caution is advised.


Issued by: Inspector Scott Webb

[justsomeguy]

Shit Crashe.........:crybaby:


At least he died instantly.


:mellow: :crybaby: :crybaby: :crybaby: :mellow:

[crashe]

Ah shit, that sucks ass. Will find out some more at work tomorrow.
Hope it wasnt one of us.

Cheers mate, as we have a few that live up that way.

[2much]

Thoughts go out to their family and friends.

[Karma]

Hope it wasnt one of us.

Goes without saying, but never good to lose anyone of a kindred spirit.

[Ixion]

Shit. Bugger. Damn.

RIP brother. And prayers and commiserations to those who grieve for you.

[BigB]

Thoughts are with the family RIP

[SixPackBack]

Not me!..........[not able to ride at the moment], members up here that i am aware of are pinkhoggirl,2wheels on red beach,madduck.

R.I.P coaster......rest easy!:crybaby:

Can some one post the identity, as i know most of the riders up here

That is a very unusual place for a fatality, slow with good visibility, a T intersection with lights in a residential area?

[NordieBoy]

Bugger....

[Mrs Old Farts]

Always sad to hear, we all have to be real careful out there.
thoughts to family and friends.

[Colapop]

It seems to be happening everywhere at the moment (accidents). Be careful please....
Thoughts to the family and friends.

[bugjuice]

RIP dude.. rest easy..

[ManDownUnder]

Not me!..........[not able to ride at the moment], members up here that i am aware of are pinkhoggirl,2wheels on red beach,madduck.

R.I.P coaster......rest easy!:crybaby:

Can some one post the identity, as i know most of the riders up here

That is a very unusual place for a fatality, slow with good visibility, a T intersection with lights in a residential area?

Not PHG - she loged in 9:00am this morning,

MadDuck ain't been online a while though... (since the 17th)
MDU

[yungatart]

Thoughts with family and friends of the rider...too sad

[bugjuice]

Not PHG - she loged in 9:00am this morning,

MadDuck ain't been online a while though... (since the 17th)
MDU
well it's not going to be either of the girls, unless they're hiding something, since the police report claimed 'A male motorcyclist...'

[*sic]

RIP mate, never a good way to go, thoughts are with family and friends of the rider.

[Smorg]

RIP dude, hope it wasn't a KB'er although i remember someones login name was Two Wheels in Red Beach.................fingers crossed though

[Badcat]

rest in peace dude.
i'm sure the thoughts of our little KB family are with the friends and family of our fallen brother.
let's ALL take a little more care out there.
PLEASE.

Ken

[MSTRS]

Never nice to hear this...RIP

[Grizz]

My thoughts are with family and friends :grouphug: . RIP dude.

[crashe]

There is also "Oscar Da Cat" who lives in Orewa as well.

MadDuck is a female so it aint her.

[NodMan]

Never a good time to check out, least it appears Instant, RIP dude and my thoughts with his family and friends, ALL please take care out there on two wheels or more...

[inlinefour]

Minute silence everyone. :argh: :done:

[crashe]

Was his helmet not done up....?

Speedmedic thanks for the update.
Do you know if he was a KBer by any chance?

[jrandom]

"older" male...

BAB with a cruiser, praps?


rider was throwen into the air and at some stage his helmet became dislodged and when he landed, head first, his helmet was off...

what's the bet we're talking an open-face or even a beanie-helmet here.

full-face helmets forever and ever and only. amen.

requiescat in pace, old man.

[sels1]

rest in peace dude.
i'm sure the thoughts of our little KB family are with the friends and family of our fallen brother.
let's ALL take a little more care out there.
PLEASE.

Ken

I second that.

[crashe]

Speedmedic - I forgot to ask: Do you happen to know what kind of bike it was?

[Drum]

Very dissapointing. As a traffic safety engineer in Auckland a couple of years back we recommended to Transit that this be changed from a right turn filter to a fully signalised turn. They didnt think it was nessecary.

Ive a right mind to post the email address of the Transit engineer concerned.

RIP

[Indiana_Jones]

Shit, poor bastard :(

-Indy

[SARGE]

what's the bet we're talking an open-face or even a beanie-helmet here.

full-face helmets forever and ever and only. amen.



more like an UnBUCKLED steel pot

[jrandom]

more like an UnBUCKLED steel pot

I know, but, like, y'know.

buckled or unbuckled, just wouldn't be surprised to hear that it wasn't a full-face.

I unintentionally left my helmet unbuckled _once_, nearly crapped my panties when I lifted my head coming down the mway and it started to slide up over my nose.

never made the mistake again. praps this guy just had the worst luck ever with the crash happening on the day he forgot to do up his d-rings.

[SARGE]

I know, but, like, y'know.

buckled or unbuckled, just wouldn't be surprised to hear that it wasn't a full-face.

I unintentionally left my helmet unbuckled _once_, nearly crapped my panties when I lifted my head coming down the mway and it started to slide up over my nose.

never made the mistake again. praps this guy just had the worst luck ever with the crash happening on the day he forgot to do up his d-rings.



this is really the first time ive ridden with a helmet.. never owned one really till i got here to NZ.. had a few offs but no serious shit thankfully.

[crashe]

Ok I just spoke to "Oscar Da Cat" he is ok... Phew.
As he is a newbie on a bike.

Has anyone heard from "twowheelsonRedBeach" yet?
He is another new rider on a smallish bike.

[jrandom]

this is really the first time ive ridden with a helmet.. never owned one really till i got here to NZ.. had a few offs but no serious shit thankfully.

thing is, most offs under I dunno, 80kph, you're probably not going to bang your head coz they're usually lowsides and you'll just hold it up and slide. murkn freeways and stuff with big clear areas around them, not much chance of hitting hard things on the slide either so its prolly safer than your average NZ back road.

but highsiding at _any_ speed, or coming off in messy over-the-bars fashion, or going for a slide fast enough to leave the road and bounce through ditches, you never know when your head's going to collect something and lights-out.

so yeah. your lucky.

[SARGE]

thing is, most offs under I dunno, 80kph, you're probably not going to bang your head coz they're usually lowsides and you'll just hold it up and slide. murkn freeways and stuff with big clear areas around them, not much chance of hitting hard things on the slide either so its prolly safer than your average NZ back road.

but highsiding at _any_ speed, or coming off in messy over-the-bars fashion, or going for a slide fast enough to leave the road and bounce through ditches, you never know when your head's going to collect something and lights-out.

so yeah. your lucky.


nope..

i just gots sK11Lz

[jrandom]

i just gots sK11Lz

... at everything but quoting appropriately in your posts?

[SARGE]

... at everything but quoting appropriately in your posts?



you sure we arent married?

help me Jebus


EDIT: i brought the pillow to work today.. biteproof chainmail cover to keep your fangs from shredding it

[Lou Girardin]

Instead of traffic lights to control our every move.
WHY DON'T THESE FUCKERS OPEN THEIR EYES!

[SixPackBack]

Instead of traffic lights to control our every move.
WHY DON'T THESE FUCKERS OPEN THEIR EYES!

Not to panic Lou, the courts are sure to give the guilty party a hundred lashes........."with a wet bus ticket"

[Badcat]

Instead of traffic lights to control our every move.
WHY DON'T THESE FUCKERS OPEN THEIR EYES!

lou.
someone fucking died.
maybe this isn't the best place to post that kind of thing.

ken

[froggyfrenchman]

thoughts to friends and family. We are having these threads all too often now...

[myvice]

R.I.P.
I hope they have windy roads on the other side for you mate.

[Scorpygirl]

My thoughts are with his family and friends. Condolences. RIP mate and ride free on the other side!!!

[ducatilover]

:crybaby: :crybaby: noooooooo why?????? i hope the cage driver is hunted down and killed by male canadian yaks....that sucks balls... :crybaby:

[forty two]

RIP dude. Please all, be careful out riding. I know it was quite likely not his fault, but we need to not only watch our own riding but every other driver in our direct vicinity as they don't seem to always look out for us!

[oldrider]

Incident Type: Fatal Crash

Fatal road crash.

A male motorcyclist has died after a car collided with his machine at intersection of Hibiscus Coast Highway and Red beach Road, Red beach, Rodney.

It appeared as though the victim died instantly at the scene. Full circumstances are unclear and the fatal / serious crash team are investigating what caused the motorcyclists death.

Issued by: Inspector Scott Webb

I have revised the report so it is not biased against the motorcyclist. R.I.P. Sympathies,John.

[Ghost Lemur]

:crybaby: :crybaby: noooooooo why?????? i hope the cage driver is hunted down and killed by male canadian yaks....that sucks balls... :crybaby:

You realise there are NO yaks in Canada.

Condolences to the family.

Bet no one reading this thread will forget to do up their helmet (not saying that it was necessarily the case in this instance).

[R6_kid]

ok just to clear things up before this becomes another "fucking cage drivers" thread.

I have just been told from my father that a guy at his work (that i used to work with) knows the person that was driving the car (his mates g/f).

Her story is that the bike was off in the distance, eg a fair way back from the intersection hence why she went to turn across.

Now something for you to think about is that there were no skid marks...

My assumption is that this guy was way over the 50kmh designated speed for a start, she pulls across, he either didnt react fast enough and slow down to the speed limit, or was very good with the brakes and didnt manage to lock it up. Then as we know she doesnt make it across in time, he T bones her car and does the superman thing etc etc...

Having just completed the Defensive Driving course you have to keep two things in mind without having been there... HOW fast was this dude going, how much room did the cage driver have (eg could she have waited)..im not gonna debate either.

Either way it is very sad that it happened, we all know that we need to take it easy in residential areas and this is precisely why - if you are in a 50kmh zone, other road users think you are doing 50kmh not 80,100,120... or wateva so they judge you at 50kmh not the speed you are doing.

RIP to the dude, and condolences to his family and friends... on the other side i feel sorry for the girl too as she has to live with "i killed someone" for the rest of her life, not to mention having to see a guy who hit the ground head first at XXXkmh after going over her bonnet.

[MacD]

ok just to clear things up before this becomes another "fucking cage drivers" thread.

....

Her story is that the bike was off in the distance, eg a fair way back from the intersection hence why she went to turn across.


Not really a comment on this particular case, but unfortunately for motorcyclists, human vision is susceptible to something called the size illusion (http://www.mind.ilstu.edu/curriculum2/perception/introillusion.html). Put simply, a small object may appear further away than it really is, and motorcycles are significantly smaller than cars in frontal area. Therefore the driver may "see" a bike as being a long distance away, whereas a car would be seen as being much closer at the same real distance.

There are also issues of how a viewer processes a visual scene. Depending on an object and its background, an item may "pop-out (http://www.csc.ncsu.edu/faculty/healey/PP/index.html)" of the background, or may require a directed visual search to be seen. If you and your motorcycle don't pop-out for whatever reason, it's likely the driver is telling the truth when they say that they didn't see you...

[Lou Girardin]

One of the first things a cager says after an bike accident is "he must have been speeding". I heard that so many times I was heartily sick of it.
The fact remains that the driver turning has to ascertain it is safe to do so. This driver didn't and someone is dead.
There is no excuse.

[Speedy]

on my way home (i live in orewa) i came down hilltop and saw about 6cops and 2 ambos.............got told 2 turn around.......u could see his body only happend 10mins b4 i got there, still smoke etc
im not gona pass judgement on either he was going 2 fast( we all do) and she wasnt looking proply just a matter of wrongplace wrong time......
almost every day sum1 pulls out infront of me at that intersection........they just dnt look thats all. Its sad that any1 dies bike of cage they were a person and thats wats matters RIP...............REMEMBER RIDE LIKE UR INVISIBLE IT WILL SAVE UR LIFE A TICKET IT BETTER THEN DEATH!!!

[aff-man]

sad news.... RIP dude :drinkup:

[avgas]

I knew today was going to be crap

[2wheels in Red Beach]

RIP dude, hope it wasn't a KB'er although i remember someones login name was Two Wheels in Red Beach.................fingers crossed though
Thanks for the concern but I am ok. Although I do live 500 meters from where it happened.......


Thoughts to the family.

[Redstar]

It was not me Redstar (stanmore bay)