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oldrider
21st March 2020, 14:27
Read this any way you like? - https://www.usnews.com/news/best-countries/articles/2020-03-18/doubts-surround-syrias-claim-of-zero-coronavirus-cases - :whistle:

sidecar bob
21st March 2020, 14:33
Maybe this might teach the world that there's far more important things out there than money.

Yeah, but you can't eat cynicism.
You will be able to shoot your high horse & eat that though.

Katman
21st March 2020, 14:47
Yeah, but you can't eat cynicism.
You will be able to shoot your high horse & eat that though.

I knew you'd be the first person to take offence at the comment.

sidecar bob
21st March 2020, 14:52
I knew you'd be the first person to take offence at the comment.

I didn't take offence at all, I was simply pointing out some alternative meal options for you, seeing as being able to afford to buy food dosent feature large in your thinking.

MaxPenguin
21st March 2020, 15:03
I didn't take offence at all, I was simply pointing out some alternative meal options for you, seeing as being able to afford to buy food dosent feature large in your thinking.

Maybe we won't need to buy food, just live in one big happy commune called Aotearoa.

ellipsis
21st March 2020, 15:51
Maybe we won't need to buy food, just live in one big happy commune called Aotearoa.



...doe's that mean free love as well as free food...and do we all have to smell the same...?

Viking01
21st March 2020, 15:53
Pay up or else ....

https://moneymaven.io/mishtalk/economics/united-airlines-ceo-threatens-congress-bailout-or-layoffs-9W-Pih6K8UaMo2-AdIwD-A

Meanwhile the Fed continues to take out the trash:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/54049.htm

MaxPenguin
21st March 2020, 15:56
...doe's that mean free love as well as free food...and do we all have to smell the same...?

The sixties were 60 years ago....

oldrider
21st March 2020, 17:07
Deportation to the Martian Colonies next? - :shifty: - https://twitter.com/jamesperloff/status/1241170844421894144?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5 Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3AHenryMakow&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.henrymakow.com%2F - Criminality that deserves out of this world punishment? - Unheard of? :whistle: (They wouldn't do that! - would they?) Sigh!

ellipsis
21st March 2020, 20:08
The sixties were 60 years ago.......


...yeah...I was there...or be square, man!...

Viking01
22nd March 2020, 07:09
An eclectic little collection of facts and figures:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03/20/always-look-on-the-bright-side-of-death/

MaxPenguin
22nd March 2020, 08:38
An eclectic little collection of facts and figures:

https://www.counterpunch.org/2020/03/20/always-look-on-the-bright-side-of-death/

I have said it before, but what a fucked up country. Capitalism aye? What a crock of shit America's version is.

pritch
22nd March 2020, 08:47
The sixties were 60 years ago....

Well 1960 was, the rest were rather less.

Then there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu1JBjzm6u8&t=29s

pritch
22nd March 2020, 09:15
Shit's getting real...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVaIXgMXZk

MaxPenguin
22nd March 2020, 09:23
Well 1960 was, the rest were rather less.

Then there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu1JBjzm6u8&t=29s

Apologies, didn't realise it was international state the obvious day.

husaberg
22nd March 2020, 09:36
Well 1960 was, the rest were rather less.

Then there's this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu1JBjzm6u8&t=29s

Turns out some of that is real
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

on the other hand he hs given tax relief to certain yet undefined people, i wonder if one of them is him. I guess without his tax returns we will never ever know.........
His son in laws in charge of the response, so it all bodes well................:innocent:

george formby
22nd March 2020, 09:37
Shit's getting real...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVaIXgMXZk


Cheers! Made my morning.

pritch
22nd March 2020, 09:56
Turns out some of that is real
https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/trump-fire-pandemic-team/

on the other hand he hs given tax relief to certain yet undefined people, i wonder if one of them is him.
His son in laws in charge of the response so it all bodes well................

That MAGA hat dude is a stand up comedian. He pokes shit at Trump and his followers, but it's too subtle for a lot of people who don't get the joke and post angry comments on social media.

husaberg
22nd March 2020, 10:18
That MAGA hat dude is a stand up comedian. He pokes shit at Trump and his followers, but it's too subtle for a lot of people who don't get the joke and post angry comments on social media.

Sorry, It was a play on words of your other post, as was the comment re relief, your other post was hilarious.

sugilite
22nd March 2020, 10:36
Shit's getting real...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nmVaIXgMXZk
Dang, I knew I left the south US too soon :laugh:

Blackbird
22nd March 2020, 12:17
If the virus actually arrives, I'll make a mutual arrangement with some of the neighbours.

We have a good supply of food anyway but when I went into Coromandel village this morning to get some odds and sods, there was absolutely no sign of panic buying and plenty of stock. I tried to do on line purchases through Countdown yesterday and failed dismally. We have major supplies delivered from Whitianga on a monthly basis as it's cheaper than driving over there but when it came to choosing a delivery timeframe on their website, it wouldn't work. No big deal at present.

In great news, my wife arrives from the UK early tomorrow morning and I'm heading to Auckland later today. She's just landed in Doha. Unlike some airlines or their agents, Qatar Air have continued to be a joy to deal with. Business class one way from UK $3650 which was fine, as opposed to $9700 as the top extortion attempt we encountered.

ellipsis
22nd March 2020, 12:47
...these boys look relaxed about it all...

https://youtu.be/DJZuZzU2Vsg

slofox
22nd March 2020, 12:53
I wondered about this...

344970

pritch
22nd March 2020, 14:43
I tried to do on line purchases through Countdown yesterday and failed dismally. We have major supplies delivered from Whitianga on a monthly basis as it's cheaper than driving over there but when it came to choosing a delivery timeframe on their website, it wouldn't work.


There was a notice that they are having trouble meeting delivery times due the upsurge in demand for the service. That may have impacted your effort to select a date.

I've never tried online ordering but it's likely to happen in the near future. I'm going to have to order more than the $30.00 odd I usually buy though. I don't normally buy fish, meat, or wine at Countdown.

oldrider
22nd March 2020, 15:42
Respectfully.

Does anyone actually know anybody who has contracted and tested positive or died from this Covid-19 (Corona-virus)? - No details simple Yes or No. (maybe a poll?)

sidecar bob
22nd March 2020, 16:02
Respectfully.

Does anyone actually know anybody who has contracted and tested positive or died from this Covid-19 (Corona-virus)? - No details simple Yes or No. (maybe a poll?)

I asked the same question over lunch today. I also mentioned the chicken little "sky is falling" story at that time.
A fact is though, that 99.9% of the Italian population are still fine & dandy.
One person in Tauranga has tested positive at this point. Of all the illnesses people have in Tauranga, there is currently no illness that is affecting less of the population.

Blackbird
22nd March 2020, 17:21
There was a notice that they are having trouble meeting delivery times due the upsurge in demand for the service. That may have impacted your effort to select a date.

I've never tried online ordering but it's likely to happen in the near future. I'm going to have to order more than the $30.00 odd I usually buy though. I don't normally buy fish, meat, or wine at Countdown.

Ron,
We do a monthly or thereabouts shop. Delivery costs about $6 for orders over $400 if I remember correctly. I hate grocery shopping combined with the travel time so it's a no brainer. We buy our meat, fruit and veggies in the village.

ellipsis
22nd March 2020, 17:29
Ron,
We do a monthly or thereabouts shop. Delivery costs about $6 for orders over $400 if I remember correctly. I hate grocery shopping combined with the travel time so it's a no brainer. We buy our meat, fruit and veggies in the village.


...we grow all our vegetables and shit...don't have any livestock to eat...all my neighbours do, but rustlin' is a diabolical crime...rustlers should be hung, anyway...we are just gonna eat the neighbours we don't like...no traveling at all...I'm not tellin' me wife nuffin'...

sidecar bob
22nd March 2020, 17:35
What's this? Looks a bit racist to me.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/412327/maori-communities-businesses-get-help-to-respond-to-covid-19

roogazza
22nd March 2020, 17:39
I asked the same question over lunch today. I also mentioned the chicken little "sky is falling" story at that time.
A fact is though, that 99.9% of the Italian population are still fine & dandy.
One person in Tauranga has tested positive at this point. Of all the illnesses people have in Tauranga, there is currently no illness that is affecting less of the population.

I have a mate who owns Hotel 10 to 15 kms from Mugello, He's in lock down and closed.
Reckons a decision on Mugello is within two weeks !!! (that was Friday just gone ). :(

jasonu
22nd March 2020, 17:45
What's this? Looks a bit racist to me.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/412327/maori-communities-businesses-get-help-to-respond-to-covid-19

Coons mate, it's all about me.

MaxPenguin
22nd March 2020, 18:04
What's this? Looks a bit racist to me.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/412327/maori-communities-businesses-get-help-to-respond-to-covid-19

Positive racism .

ellipsis
22nd March 2020, 18:09
Positive racism .


...why... ...

MaxPenguin
22nd March 2020, 18:22
...why... ...

It's just a term I heard once.

sidecar bob
22nd March 2020, 18:36
Positive racism .

Let's try a fund that specifically excludes them & grab a bag of popcorn:facepalm:

ellipsis
22nd March 2020, 18:40
...meanwhile back in the year 1...


...rock'n'roll will never die...

https://youtu.be/5WSulenOUb0

JATZ
22nd March 2020, 19:34
What's this? Looks a bit racist to me.
https://www.rnz.co.nz/news/te-manu-korihi/412327/maori-communities-businesses-get-help-to-respond-to-covid-19

I saw that on the news tonight. What gives one section of our nation a right to more $$ than the rest of us ?
We're all in this together aren't we ?

(that's the diplomatic/family friendly reply, not what I originally typed out)

nerrrd
22nd March 2020, 19:53
Respectfully.

Does anyone actually know anybody who has contracted and tested positive or died from this Covid-19 (Corona-virus)? - No details simple Yes or No. (maybe a poll?)

Respectfully.

I donít know nor have I ever met anyone who has died from cancer. Or been in a serious vehicle accident. Or won Lotto first division - seriously.

Thereís also a whole lot of countries out there that Iíve never been to. Iíve never been into space either, for all I know all this solar system stuff is just bs.

Iíd like to say theyíre all part of some kind of plot by the UN, but Iíve never seen that either, so....

The truth is out there, apparently.

pritch
22nd March 2020, 20:13
Some hereabout don't much like Rachel Maddow, smart women make some blokes feel insecure. Smart she is though, a former Rhodes Scholar with a doctorate in political science from Cambridge.

This is worth a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9EzF2MHnJA


Trump's reference to Chloroquine is absurd. Dr Fauci will be disappearing from view if he corrects Trump like that, and he's one of the few on Team Trump with any clues. The US has more of a history with Malaria than we do but even so, it's hard to imagine they are holding huge stocks.

In the late 60s a group of people arrived in NZ and developed Malaria, there was insufficient Chloroquine to treat them all. There may be stocks in NZ to treat a few cases but probably not a large number.

pete376403
22nd March 2020, 20:39
Some hereabout don't much like Rachel Maddow, smart women make some blokes feel insecure. Smart she is though, a former Rhodes Scholar with a doctorate in political science from Cambridge.

This is worth a look:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9EzF2MHnJA


Trump's reference to Chloroquine is absurd. Dr Fauci will be disappearing from view if he corrects Trump like that, and he's one of the few on Team Trump with any clues. The US has more of a history with Malaria than we do but even so, it's hard to imagine they are holding huge stocks.

In the late 60s a group of people arrived in NZ and developed Malaria, there was insufficient Chloroquine to treat them all. There may be stocks in NZ to treat a few cases but probably not a large number.

My wife is prescribed hydrochloroquine suphate for arthritis. Same stuff? Similar? Not even close?

pritch
22nd March 2020, 23:12
My wife is prescribed hydrochloroquine suphate for arthritis. Same stuff? Similar? Not even close?

Similar or possibly the same, the references are a bit confusing hydroxychloroquine can apparently be used to treat chloroquine resistant malaria? Chloroquine is used to treat arthritis and lupus so we need a chemist. There is also mention of it being trialled for Corona virus but as the doctor said it would be dangerous to say itís available as a treatment.

Mention is made of it being taken by mouth but how the doses compare is a mystery.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 07:27
Respectfully.

Does anyone actually know anybody who has contracted and tested positive or died from this Covid-19 (Corona-virus)? - No details simple Yes or No. (maybe a poll?)

You don't know the meaning of respect.
Your posts here are a plague of half arsed conspiracy theories and other offensive crap.
You are a five star candidate for social isolation...

Ruahine
23rd March 2020, 07:36
My wife is prescribed hydrochloroquine suphate for arthritis. Same stuff? Similar? Not even close?

There are a number of different quinine salts that can be used to treat malaria such as quinine dihydrochloride or quinine bisuplhate. Quinine is used as an an anti-malarial and it works by interfering with haeme biosynthesis in our red blood cells, which the malarial parasite uses as part of its infection cycle.

Chloroquine (and hydrochloroquine suphate is a salt of this) is a similar but molecularly distinct drug that were developed to help reduce the side-effects of quinine-based drugs. They essentially do the same thing. One of the major side-effects of both drugs is anaemia (cause by loss of haeme). Chloroquine is also somewhat immunosuppressive which is why it can be prescribed for autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

I would treat any anti-Covid19 claims with caution as the current studies (and the previous SARS ones) have simply shown that it kills virus sitting in a dish, which is worlds away from being effective in people. To put this in context, put ethanol on a virus and it will kill it but prescribing single malt is unlikely to prevent infection.

Hopefully clinical trials are in progress as the immunosuppressive effects of Chloroquine may be useful in preventing sepsis during pneumonia.

husaberg
23rd March 2020, 07:43
Similar or possibly the same, the references are a bit confusing hydroxychloroquine can apparently be used to treat chloroquine resistant malaria? Chloroquine is used to treat arthritis and lupus so we need a chemist. There is also mention of it being trialled for Corona virus but as the doctor said it would be dangerous to say it’s available as a treatment.

Mention is made of it being taken by mouth but how the doses compare is a mystery.



https://thespinoff.co.nz/science/21-03-2020/could-pre-existing-drugs-work-for-covid-19-nz-experts-weigh-in/


Dr Christopher Gale, senior lecturer at the Department of Psychological Medicine, University of Otago
There are a fair number of “cures” for Covid-19 being mentioned in social media and by various public figures. This is normal human behaviour: people will try to do whatever they can to stay well and be able to care for their families and friends. However, there is very little data behind these claims.​


The final drug in this repurposed grouping is in the “other” category. It is called chloroquine. Chloroquine is an antimalarial drug, long in use, especially in travel medicine. It turns out that it inhibits SARS2-CoV replication in the test tube and it has garnered wide attention because of it. Physicians are keen to learn if this observation could be translated into success in living humans. A cautionary note is that chloroquine has been looked at before with other viruses and has not been found to be effective.


Protease inhibitors are a major drug class in use against HIV. For HIV they work by blocking an enzyme that processes proteins that the virus needs for growth. During the Sars epidemic it was discovered that Kaletra (lopinavir/ritonavir), a common anti-HIV drug, seemed to help coronavirus-infected patients. Early data on its use for coronavirus infection suggests weak to no activity, but it was an early study with small patient numbers.

Bonez
23rd March 2020, 08:05
Funny how no one is mentioning this virus was developed in Canada as a bio weapon. This is not a conspiracy theory.

MaxPenguin
23rd March 2020, 08:31
Funny how no one is mentioning this virus was developed in Canada as a bio weapon. This is not a conspiracy theory.

I think you will find that's why fuckwit trump is making a special effort to call it the Chinese flu.

Naki Rat
23rd March 2020, 08:50
Prediction?


https://youtu.be/_tqdOwOxY3s

TheDemonLord
23rd March 2020, 08:55
I think you will find that's why fuckwit trump is making a special effort to call it the Chinese flu.

Like the Spanish flu? Or Ebola?

It's not like we have a history of calling Diseases by their place of origin....

Blackbird
23rd March 2020, 08:56
I picked up my wife at Auckland Airport at 0500 this morning. They were restricting building entry to passengers only. Had to meet my wife in the main car park but they were handing out free tickets so all good. She travelled all the way from London in one of those new Qatar Q Suites. Reckoned that they were superb. Apart from the odd feed and movie watching, just shut the door and slept. Apparently, she got the last but one flight out before Qatar shut down the service.

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 09:04
You don't know the meaning of respect.
Your posts here are a plague of half arsed conspiracy theories and other offensive crap.
You are a five star candidate for social isolation...

Now you know how the people in Gaza feel about you.

Viking01
23rd March 2020, 09:08
There are a number of different quinine salts that can be used to treat malaria such as quinine dihydrochloride or quinine bisuplhate. Quinine is used as an an anti-malarial and it works by interfering with haeme biosynthesis in our red blood cells, which the malarial parasite uses as part of its infection cycle.

Chloroquine (and hydrochloroquine suphate is a salt of this) is a similar but molecularly distinct drug that were developed to help reduce the side-effects of quinine-based drugs. They essentially do the same thing. One of the major side-effects of both drugs is anaemia (cause by loss of haeme). Chloroquine is also somewhat immunosuppressive which is why it can be prescribed for autoimmune diseases such as rheumatoid arthritis and lupus.

I would treat any anti-Covid19 claims with caution as the current studies (and the previous SARS ones) have simply shown that it kills virus sitting in a dish, which is worlds away from being effective in people. To put this in context, put ethanol on a virus and it will kill it but prescribing single malt is unlikely to prevent infection.

Hopefully clinical trials are in progress as the immunosuppressive effects of Chloroquine may be useful in preventing sepsis during pneumonia.

Morning. Thanks for the good summary. Had seen that several sets of clinical trials were currently underway in Europe e.g. an article from 3 days ago:

https://www.france24.com/en/20200320-will-an-old-malaria-drug-help-fight-the-coronavirus

Though I will still continue with my self-imposed self-isolate and self-medicate (single malt) approach.

Cheers

MaxPenguin
23rd March 2020, 09:25
Like the Spanish flu? Or Ebola?

It's not like we have a history of calling Diseases by their place of origin....

Spanish flu originated in Kansas

TheDemonLord
23rd March 2020, 09:35
Spanish flu originated in Kansas

Or China - if we are floating hypothesis.

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 09:38
35 Sources showing the COVID19 / corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud. - https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/35-sources-the-covid19-corona-virus-is-over-hyped-and-likely-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR3WrtFaZENEybBF5GquAZ3atiniPlGVdAeYnHjx ciUun8zRns3PU5ecxek - :corn:

The only person that I know of (by hearsay) that has been diagnosed positive is in Queenstown and has been stood down in isolation by a doctor as "symptomatic" has apparently been refused an official test! - :scratch: - WTF?

MaxPenguin
23rd March 2020, 09:50
35 Sources showing the COVID19 / corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud. - https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/35-sources-the-covid19-corona-virus-is-over-hyped-and-likely-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR3WrtFaZENEybBF5GquAZ3atiniPlGVdAeYnHjx ciUun8zRns3PU5ecxek - :corn:

The only person that I know of (by hearsay) that has been diagnosed positive is in Queenstown and has been stood down in isolation by a doctor as "symptomatic" has apparently been refused an official test! - :scratch: - WTF?

Maybe you should go out and start licking people.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 09:54
35 Sources showing the COVID19 / corona virus is over hyped, and likely fraud. - https://revealingfraud.com/2020/03/health/35-sources-the-covid19-corona-virus-is-over-hyped-and-likely-fraud/?fbclid=IwAR3WrtFaZENEybBF5GquAZ3atiniPlGVdAeYnHjx ciUun8zRns3PU5ecxek - :corn:

The only person that I know of (by hearsay) that has been diagnosed positive is in Queenstown and has been stood down in isolation by a doctor as "symptomatic" has apparently been refused an official test! - :scratch: - WTF?

So let's prove your theory.
Get down to your local hospital and await the arrival of some "fraudulent" patients.
Then feel free to lick their faces.

sugilite
23rd March 2020, 09:57
I picked up my wife at Auckland Airport at 0500 this morning. They were restricting building entry to passengers only. Had to meet my wife in the main car park but they were handing out free tickets so all good. She travelled all the way from London in one of those new Qatar Q Suites. Reckoned that they were superb. Apart from the odd feed and movie watching, just shut the door and slept. Apparently, she got the last but one flight out before Qatar shut down the service.
Glad to hear she made it back Blackbird :yes:

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 10:12
So let's prove your theory.
Get down to your local hospital and await the arrival of some "fraudulent" patients.
Then feel free to lick their faces.

Your interpretation - not mine - but feel free to distort all you like - it's what you do! :msn-wink:

Blackbird
23rd March 2020, 10:13
Glad to hear she made it back Blackbird :yes:

Thank you! We've been together for 48 years and will freely admit that I was a lot more emotional than I thought I'd be seeing her sitting on her suitcase in the car park when I rolled up. Must be getting soft !

pritch
23rd March 2020, 10:21
So I went and did a grocery stock up. Now I need to learn the supermarket online ordering system which looks "interesting".

There is a modest wine cellar here but a sad lack of single malt. YouTube's Ralfy gives some good recommendations, so I will hunt one down. Only for the antiseptic qualities of course...

According to TV1 one of the local iwi were making hand sanitiser and handing it out to their elderly. They were using vodka and aloe vera. Apparently to be effective the alcohol needs to be 60%, normal vodka is about 40% so is not suitable for hand sanitiser. Since their effort was shown on TV, I hope someone told them the news.

A US politician is telling people that breathing high temperature air will kill the virus before it gets to the lungs. He's recommending people use a hair dryer to heat the air they breathe. That's sure to end badly.

Italian mayors are getting upset at people not staying home. One mayor told university students wanting to break the isolation rules to hold graduation parties, "You have your party, I'll send Police - with flamethrowers."
That should do it.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 10:37
Your interpretation - not mine - but feel free to distort all you like - it's what you do! :msn-wink:

You're the one posting rumour and gossip:

The only person that I know of (by hearsay)

Perhaps you explain how I distorted it?
Or are you saying (as you have before), that you just post false news and fake drivel, but don't necessarily believe it.

austingtir
23rd March 2020, 10:43
It verges on sad and hilarious how little you lot seem to know.


The malaria drug Trump was going on about has been widely used in China (if you can believe them because they are full of shit on everything else) they've tested it on thousands of people and claim it works (the japanese version of the drug mixed with something else).

The chinese have also from practically day dot when they finally started going after the virus 2 months after it was getting around tested practically every drug in existance on their own people in clinical trials. Probably tens of thousands of different drugs.




Anyway im here to tell you lot CHINA LIED and continues to do so.

7 million + infected just in Wuhan and 200k+ dead and that was a month ago!


Wake up.

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 10:57
You're the one posting rumour and gossip:


Perhaps you explain how I distorted it?
Or are you saying (as you have before), that you just post false news and fake drivel, but don't necessarily believe it.

No need - you have answered your own question.

sugilite
23rd March 2020, 11:02
It verges on sad and hilarious how little you lot seem to know.


The malaria drug Trump was going on about has been widely used in China (if you can believe them because they are full of shit on everything else) they've tested it on thousands of people and claim it works (the japanese version of the drug mixed with something else).

The chinese have also from practically day dot when they finally started going after the virus 2 months after it was getting around tested practically every drug in existance on their own people in clinical trials. Probably tens of thousands of different drugs.


Anyway im here to tell you lot CHINA LIED and continues to do so.

7 million + infected just in Wuhan and 200k+ dead and that was a month ago!

Wake up.
Very good post. Naturally a big who knows on the actual numbers, but likely very, very high.

MaxPenguin
23rd March 2020, 11:08
It verges on sad and hilarious how little you lot seem to know.


The malaria drug Trump was going on about has been widely used in China (if you can believe them because they are full of shit on everything else) they've tested it on thousands of people and claim it works (the japanese version of the drug mixed with something else).

The chinese have also from practically day dot when they finally started going after the virus 2 months after it was getting around tested practically every drug in existance on their own people in clinical trials. Probably tens of thousands of different drugs.




Anyway im here to tell you lot CHINA LIED and continues to do so.

7 million + infected just in Wuhan and 200k+ dead and that was a month ago!


Wake up.


Very good post. Naturally a big who knows on the actual numbers, but likely very, very high.

And this people is called a circle jerk.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 11:11
No need - you have answered your own question.

So you admit that you are the font of false news, rumour and gossip.
Good for you.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 11:12
And this people is called a circle jerk.

And as jerks go, they don't get much jerkier.

sugilite
23rd March 2020, 11:13
And this people is called a circle jerk.
I can think of hotter material to wack off to :lol:

Katman
23rd March 2020, 11:18
So you admit that you are the font of false news, rumour and gossip.
Good for you.

Are you the berk's twin?

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 11:21
So you admit that you are the font of false news, rumour and gossip.
Good for you.

What have I ever posted and claimed as true? - What does this symbol mean - ? - it means questionable material. - Read it make up your own mind.

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 11:34
What have I ever posted and claimed as true? - What does this symbol mean - ? - it means questionable material. - Read it make up your own mind.

If you don't believe it, why post it?
Are you so fucking stupid that you want other people to make up (what's left of your) mind for you?

oldrider
23rd March 2020, 12:01
If you don't believe it, why post it?
Are you so fucking stupid that you want other people to make up (what's left of your) mind for you?

Abusive? - End of conversation! (keep your keyboard pissing competitions for your own edification)

Oscar
23rd March 2020, 12:04
Abusive? - End of conversation! (keep your keyboard pissing competitions for your own edification)

So now you'd like to know if that was abusive?
What a nupty.

I would imagine that you're used to abusive responses given the drivel you post.

Do you have any opinions of your own?

Bonez
23rd March 2020, 12:09
Are you the berk's twin?The resemblance is uncanny.

TheDemonLord
23rd March 2020, 13:41
Well....

Fuck.

Blackbird
23rd March 2020, 13:45
Well....

Fuck.

Yes indeed. Take care everyone.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd March 2020, 13:48
Shits getting real about now.

nerrrd
23rd March 2020, 13:54
Who knew a lifetime of practising social distancing and self isolation would come in handy someday.

Viking01
23rd March 2020, 14:09
I see that the World Bank has finally leapt into action (?)

https://www.thenational.ae/world/europe/world-bank-moving-forward-on-first-1-7bn-in-pandemic-aid-projects-1.995946

But only US$1.7 billion out of a total amount of US$14 billion set aside ? Why such a small amount ?

"To help countries deal with health and economic effects of the coronavirus." (?)

Look, if you meant "... to make soft loans to project creditors in countries of US geo-political interest", then why didn't you just say so ? .... you didn't need to try and dress it up ... we can all read between the lines.

But if you do still have a few dollars spare, perhaps you could help Don fund the CDC? He seems to be struggling.

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/10/coronavirus-testing-delays-caused-in-part-by-underfunding-cdc-director-says.html

It seems that U.S. preparedness to deal with the threat of COVID-19 was hampered by personnel and budget cuts made over the past three years. The Centres for Disease Control and Prevention has experienced a 30 percent funding cut since 2003, despite an increased number of public health emergencies over the intervening years.

In its 2020 budget, the administration proposed a further 10 percent cut in CDC funding (equivalent to about $750 million). It eliminated funding for epidemiology and laboratory capacity at state and local levels. The funding cuts have also forced the CDC to reduce or discontinue epidemic-prevention efforts in 39 of the 49 countries that it had been helping.

And until February 26, there was no one in the White House tasked specifically with overseeing a coordinated government-wide response in the event of a pandemic. The post of senior director for global health security and bio-threats on the National Security Council was eliminated in May 2019, as global health issues were not considered to be a “national security” priority.

Though with the new US COVID 19 response team - being led by VP Mike Pence and Alex Azar (former lobbyist for pharmaceutical company Eli Lilly), I'm sure that all will be in good hands. Though strangely enough, it's always Don still fronting the news interviews.

[Edit]

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/488954-us-eliminated-key-china-based-public-health-position-ahead-of-coronavirus

TheDemonLord
23rd March 2020, 14:11
Who knew a lifetime of practising social distancing and self isolation would come in handy someday.

It's practically part of my job description....

Stylo
23rd March 2020, 15:45
The cars queuing at the Petrol stations on the way home an hour ago . They're staying open .

Pack mentality or just dumb. Probably means the same thing.

jasonu
23rd March 2020, 15:54
Shit just got real...
https://www.nzherald.co.nz/sport/news/article.cfm?c_id=4&objectid=12319155

Naki Rat
23rd March 2020, 16:12
Dropping off orders from our online business at the local FarmSource store (NZ Couriers agent) earlier this arvo. The place was humming with locals stocking up on farm supplies including one character who was there in his classic rag-top Morgan and drove off with a big sack of dog biscuits laid across the bonnet (cabin full?). Shame I didn't have my phone on me for a photo of it :crazy:

Autech
23rd March 2020, 16:24
Dropping off orders from our online business at the local FarmSource store (NZ Couriers agent) earlier this arvo. The place was humming with locals stocking up on farm supplies including one character who was there in his classic rag-top Morgan and drove off with a big sack of dog biscuits laid across the bonnet (cabin full?). Shame I didn't have my phone on me for a photo of it :crazy:

Yeah I worked at Farm supply place today, the place was off the chain busy. Lady singled out one regular who was there had bought 1 more of everything he usually bought, it's one of those 1000 cuts things and not just the hoarders that are causing the issues though.

Hoarders are fucked in the head though

george formby
23rd March 2020, 16:27
Yes, the end of times. Sat at a junction earlier watching a swarm of folk at the grog shop across the road, I watched a woman try to unlock her car whilst holding at least 6 big bottles of vodka. I estimate she dropped 3 of them... I lolled.

Autech
23rd March 2020, 16:28
Yes, the end of times. Sat at a junction earlier watching a swarm of folk at the grog shop across the road, I watched a woman try to unlock her car whilst holding at least 6 big bottles of vodka. I estimate she dropped 3 of them... I lolled.

Yeah I've instructed wife to try and get some on way home. Hope she listens or my liver will go into shock lol

MaxPenguin
23rd March 2020, 16:40
How will those down south with the licensing trust get booze?

Autech
23rd March 2020, 16:43
How will those down south with the licensing trust get booze?

Durrrn south they make the mooooonshine reaaal good, makes their sisters/wives look prettier with no teeth! :D

HenryDorsetCase
23rd March 2020, 17:26
Yes, the end of times. Sat at a junction earlier watching a swarm of folk at the grog shop across the road, I watched a woman try to unlock her car whilst holding at least 6 big bottles of vodka. I estimate she dropped 3 of them... I lolled.

benefit of the doubt: cheap vodka is available and is the same % alcohol as hand sanitiser which is out of stock everywhere.

Autech
23rd March 2020, 17:31
benefit of the doubt: cheap vodka is available and is the same % alcohol as hand sanitiser which is out of stock everywhere.

Tastes the same too

Trade_nancy
23rd March 2020, 17:46
So from Wednesday we are told to stay home..but are told supermarkets and petrol stations will still be running for us. So does that mean we DON'T have to stay at home..else how can we do the supermarket shop and topup the bike with petrol?

Bonez
23rd March 2020, 17:48
So from Wednesday we are told to stay home..but are told supermarkets and petrol stations will still be running for us. So does that mean we DON'T have to stay at home..else how can we do the supermarket shop and topup the bike with petrol?There's a funny thing called common sense. It might help to use it.

Trade_nancy
23rd March 2020, 18:11
There's a funny thing called common sense. It might help to use it.

So you don't know either eh?

Viking01
23rd March 2020, 18:12
So from Wednesday we are told to stay home..but are told supermarkets and petrol stations will still be running for us. So does that mean we DON'T have to stay at home..else how can we do the supermarket shop and topup the bike with petrol?

Most of what you will need to know will likely be on the Covid 19 website e.g.

https://covid19.govt.nz/help-and-advice/for-travellers/public-transport/

Think the important words were "don't go out unnecessarily". So, if you need food or petrol, then go top up when you need to. But avoid panic buying.

Authorities are simply asking that you limit trips out. If you're cooped up at home (even if self-isolating), that doesn't mean you can't get food and petrol (just seek to maintain the 2 metre distance when doing so). Same goes for a walk in the nearest park or to take the dog for a walk.

Autech
23rd March 2020, 18:19
Wife got 1 bottle of Jim Beam...

That's my usual weekly allowance, even in Soviet Russia they never had to ration vodka!

In all seriousness stay safe KBers, stay at home if you don't need to go anywhere, if you need to go somewhere go to a big open space like a beach and stay the fuck away from anyone you aren't isolating with. Be extra careful at the supermarket etc. We can stomp this bitch out in 4 weeks if we are smart.

onearmedbandit
23rd March 2020, 18:24
So from Wednesday we are told to stay home..but are told supermarkets and petrol stations will still be running for us. So does that mean we DON'T have to stay at home..else how can we do the supermarket shop and topup the bike with petrol?


There's a funny thing called common sense. It might help to use it.

Nope, that just confirms you don't know how to apply common sense, so Bonez's advice to you was wasted.

pritch
23rd March 2020, 18:47
benefit of the doubt: cheap vodka is available and is the same % alcohol as hand sanitiser which is out of stock everywhere.

The advice I've seen says vodka is much too low in alcohol to be used as hand sanitiser. So is whisky. Don't waste it, drink it.

The TV people seemed almost excited that Scot Morrison invoked the spirt of the ANZACs. Australians view ANZAC differently to us. It would be news to many, probably including ScoMO, that NZ has anything at all to do with ANZAC. They see it as an entirely Australian thing.

Trade_nancy
23rd March 2020, 19:09
Most of what you will need to know will likely be on the Covid 19 website e.g.

https://covid19.govt.nz/help-and-advice/for-travellers/public-transport/

Think the important words were "don't go out unnecessarily". So, if you need food or petrol, then go top up when you need to. But avoid panic buying.

Authorities are simply asking that you limit trips out. If you're cooped up at home (even if self-isolating), that doesn't mean you can't get food and petrol (just seek to maintain the 2 metre distance when doing so). Same goes for a walk in the nearest park or to take the dog for a walk.

Cheers - sorted. I read that link info you posted and saw the bit about access to supermarket etc. Thanks.

Trade_nancy
23rd March 2020, 19:11
Nope, that just confirms you don't know how to apply common sense, so Bonez's advice to you was wasted.

Appreciate your concern.

HenryDorsetCase
23rd March 2020, 21:32
The advice I've seen says vodka is much too low in alcohol to be used as hand sanitiser. So is whisky. Don't waste it, drink it.


Thats good advice then!