I hate f^%&$ Apple Inc and all things Apple [Archive]

9th April 2020, 18:26

For years I have detested Apple and it's attempts to become a monopoly and how it forces Customers to use it's products. It's a filthy greedy corporate with no conscience.

My previous employer forced upon us I-Phone 1 to 16 or whatever rip-off number is in fashion. I'm a Samsung man myself. I found the I-Phones bloody useless to navigate and programmed to self destruct after 13 months 3 day 1 hour 2.4 minutes. I firmly believe there are two words that are forbidden to be used or considered by Apple employees- USER FRIENDLY. They have absolutely no bloody concept of the words.

Their products remind me of an old Rolls Royce statement. Our cars never break down. They may choose to be non-operational

Sadly for me I like music and I-Tunes was a good source to collate my many years of favourites onto a single device. So I spent many dollars buying songs and therefore have the right to play them on my stinking Apple Ipod. Here's the "piss me off bit"

Mini IPod 1 -after 13m 3d 2.4 hours the buttons cease to work. Oh, just buy a new one, cheaper than repair. Ok
Upgrade to nano something or other. About 13m, 3 d 2.4 hours later that one decides to choose not to be operational. $379 later I buy a 3rd one. Only to be told they will no longer be manufactured and I must buy an I-Phone. F&^$# you Apple I think, how dare Apple force me to buy their stinking useless phones for $1,000+ just to listen to music I HAVE PAID APPLE FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO OWN AND LISTEN TOO

So tonight I get home from a stressful week at work, crack a wine put on nano, hear a few songs to relax me and ..while on 25% charge it just decides to be ..wait for it - become non operational. This is my 3rd nano in about 7 years to F&^&%$ shut itself down. This one did this about 6 months ago and after 3 days it just magically decided to re-activate. Until then nothing worked, no buttons did anything, plugging it in and out of charge made no f$%#@ difference. I just have to wait a few days now to see if f%$#@ Apple chooses to let me listen to music I have f*&% paid them to listen too.

If you are unclear how I feel it is 'Fuck you Apple, I hate Apple'

Bonez

9th April 2020, 19:12

Samsung and x86 house hold here. Used Macs years ago in the production of aircraft maintenance and training manuals. Got a Mac SE that still runs fine. Don't really understand the Mac fanboyism at all. Having kept an eye on Macs for a few years now watching Louis Rossman doing his thing wrt Apple repairs I,m never going to own one. The whole idea is gto get costomers trapped in their ecosystem.:blink:

onearmedbandit

9th April 2020, 19:27

sidecar bob

9th April 2020, 19:29

My carefully looked after apple I pad decided to make life difficult, by making stuff I like to look at on trademe impossible to access, then, it eventually decided that this site was too risky to use.
It's in the bookshelf now & I'm using a new Samsung device.
How would you feel if you took your car in for a service, & they said the heater & aircond were now shut down & the best option was to buy a new car?

pritch

9th April 2020, 19:35

This one did this about 6 months ago and after 3 days it just magically decided to re-activate. Until then nothing worked, no buttons did anything, plugging it in and out of charge made no f$%#@ difference. I just have to wait a few days now to see if f%$#@ Apple chooses to let me listen to music I have f*&% paid them to listen too

You don't seem to have mentioned a reset? Depending on which model, a reset involves connecting to power and simultaneously pressing two buttons or some other pattern of pressing the controls.

For instance:

"iPad with Home button, iPhone 6s or earlier, and iPod touch (6th generation) or earlier: Press and hold both the Home and the Top (or Side) buttons at the same time. Keep holding them until you see the recovery mode screen"

If none of that covers your device try this:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201412

My ancient MacBook Pro is on it's way out, so Black Friday I bought a MacBook Air on special. There are about 2,500 songs in iTunes on the MacBook Pro and very few on the Air which wants me to pay for Apple Music - or apparently pay Apple $40 per year to access music I already payed for in iTunes.

So while I'm an Apple fan I do have this one niggle which I need to resolve.

9th April 2020, 19:59

You don't seem to have mentioned a reset? Depending on which model, a reset involves connecting to power and simultaneously pressing two buttons or some other pattern of pressing the controls.

For instance:

"iPad with Home button, iPhone 6s or earlier, and iPod touch (6th generation) or earlier: Press and hold both the Home and the Top (or Side) buttons at the same time. Keep holding them until you see the recovery mode screen"

If none of that covers your device try this:
https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201412

My ancient MacBook Pro is on it's way out, so Black Friday I bought a MacBook Air on special. There are about 2,500 songs in iTunes on the MacBook Pro and very few on the Air which wants me to pay for Apple Music - or apparently pay Apple $40 per year to access music I already payed for in iTunes.

So while I'm an Apple fan I do have this one niggle which I need to resolve.

Feel free mate to share the secret society handshake, multi-button press simultaneously, process. I did try that approach. What simply pisses me off is I have paid Apple a lot of money to be allowed to listen to songs I paid them for, which they so kindly sold to me, on their useless products that they so kindly sold to me- AND THEY FUCKING KEEP SHUTTING ME OUT and suggesting I upgrade to their latest product.

Let me repeat- I fucking hate Apple. Nano's at $379 a pop. How many should I have bought to work beyond 13 months?
ps- It's a nano 7 last release

pete376403

9th April 2020, 21:13

Minor point. You dont own the music (movie, whatever) purchased on iTunes, you purchased the right to listen (view, etc) only. "When you lawfully buy a physical CD, DVD or book, for example, the Copyright Act allows you to sell, lend or give away your copy, because you own it. But that’s not the case for digital copies, as Apple’s terms and conditions explicitly states.

So if you buy a movie via the iTunes store or to stream on Amazon, for example, you’re essentially buying a license to watch the film as long as it remains on the platform — you’re not buying ownership of the file itself."

caseye

9th April 2020, 21:19

Android, all the way, having said tht apple does make it easier to use their shit than android.
But given the choice I'd always shove the iphone straight up Apple Core!
Sympathise wtih you 100%.:bleh::bleh:
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HenryDorsetCase

9th April 2020, 21:27

For years I have detested Apple and it's attempts to become a monopoly and how it's forces Customers to use it's products. It's a filthy greedy corporate with no conscience.

My previous employer forced upon us I-Phone 1 to 16 or whatever rip-off number is in fashion. I'm a Samsung man myself. I found the I-Phones bloody useless to navigate and programmed to self destruct after 13 months 3 day 1 hour 2.4 minutes. I firmly believe there are two words that are forbidden to be used or considered by Apple employees- USER FRIENDLY. They have absolutely no bloody concept of the words.

Their products remind me of an old Rolls Royce statement. Our cars never break down. They may choose to be non-operational

Sadly for me I like music and I-Tunes was a good source to collate my many years of favourites onto a single device. So I spent many dollars buying songs and therefore have the right to play them on my stinking Apple Ipod. Here's the "piss me off bit"

Mini IPod 1 -after 13m 3d 2.4 hours the buttons cease to work. Oh, just buy a new one, cheaper than repair. Ok
Upgrade to nano something or other. About 13m, 3 d 2.4 hours later that one decides to choose not to be operational. $379 later I buy a 3rd one. Only to be told they will no longer be manufactured and I must buy an I-Phone. F&^$# you Apple I think, how dare Apple force me to buy their stinking useless phones for $1,000+ just to listen to music I HAVE PAID APPLE FOR THE PRIVILEGE TO OWN AND LISTEN TOO

So tonight I get home from a stressful week at work, crack a wine put on nano, hear a few songs to relax me and ..while on 25% charge it just decides to be ..wait for it - become non operational. This is my 3rd nano in about 7 years to F&^&%$ shut itself down. This one did this about 6 months ago and after 3 days it just magically decided to re-activate. Until then nothing worked, no buttons did anything, plugging it in and out of charge made no f$%#@ difference. I just have to wait a few days now to see if f%$#@ Apple chooses to let me listen to music I have f*&% paid them to listen too.

If you are unclear how I feel it is 'Fuck you Apple, I hate Apple'

I hear you. Here's what I did. I have a Samsung phone with 64GB of memory. I have a NAS drive connected to my router. I ripped all of my CD's to the NAS drive and I can listen to that stuff all over my house or in my garage. There's around 1350 of them so a bit of variety. I have Sonos gear which accesses the NAS box, and also internet radio and if I want it Spotify or whatever. I've got a few playlists on my phone.

Ive actually started doing it with movies and TV shows too: buying physical media. Netflix and whatnot is fine, but you're fucked if you are half way through watching a show and it disappears. Plus you get weirdness like the well known documentary series Star Trek having the TV shows on Netflix (yay) but Picard is on PRime. and the movies are not on either... except the JJ-verse ones.

Anyway, you've got options and with a Samsung phone you've got good options.

TheDemonLord

9th April 2020, 22:08

Samsung 4 lyfe.

240

9th April 2020, 22:48

I Actually USED to like apple I stopped at the iPhone 6 the reason I did as I got sick of having to sign in to apple for every fucking thing I did I fucking hated it after a while and went to a Samsung s9 and there is now no dramas at all and I can actually download things into my phone WITHOUT being fucken made to 'sign in I will never go back to the ios Nazi controlled fucken operating system

JimO

10th April 2020, 05:26

happy apple owner here

F5 Dave

10th April 2020, 08:37

10th April 2020, 10:42

MD, at some point you need to break from the Sunk Cost Fallacy. You have sadly poured good money after bad to retain the initial investment.

Mourn it and let it go. This thread may be therapeutic. I admire your ranty abuse. Good effort, yes they are fuckers.

I'm about to start paying for Spotify I think. With a gazillion songs on my phone people might have given me, I virtually always use Spotify now.

Just getting sick enough of the ads and happy enough with the content and playlists automatically created that I'll look to switch from free model.

Thanks Dave. I did rather explode yesterday but that was coming off a stressful week and just looking forward to chilling out with my music and then being denied was the last straw. So is the consensus recommendation Spotify. Does that mean I have to buy all my songs again?

Don't think I have any choice soon since 12 months ago my old PC Windows (some 18th century version) was working fine but I plugged in the nano to sync and buy another song only to have a Apple message pop-up say, We Apple have decided you can no longer use your old Windows and must buy a new Apple PC or phone. My response was of course, F*&^ you Apple and I bought a new Windows based laptop. Sadly though on signing in on the new baby the Apple database of my library of hundreds of songs vanished. Still comes up as my account, shows my $ balance etc. I have somehow managed to restore them but the hundreds I loaded up from my CD collection have been booted off. They are still on the nano device itself. Unfortunately I dumped many of the CDs after uploading the songs I liked off each one. So if/when the nano dies I lose half my library.
Love technology, it's our friend.

pritch

10th April 2020, 10:58

Does that mean I have to buy all my songs again?

As mentioned Spotify can be had for free but when I tried it there was limited function - and ads now apparently. My brother has it and pays the subscription which gives you control and no ads.

You don't buy songs, you pay a monthly subscription. Like Apple Music - which I will not subscribe to.

10th April 2020, 13:24

As mentioned Spotify can be had for free but when I tried it there was limited function - and ads now apparently. My brother has it and pays the subscription which gives you control and no ads.

You don't buy songs, you pay a monthly subscription. Like Apple Music - which I will not subscribe to.
Cheers Pritch, I will get off the couch and look into that.

Swoop

10th April 2020, 13:49

For years I have detested Apple ... It's a filthy greedy corporate with no conscience.

Sorry, but that statement needs correcting. They are a TAX AVOIDING greedy corporate.
The other year their tax comitment in nz was somewhere close to 20k. No wonder their "office" is in Ireland...

Sadly the fanbois are Ifelch deluded by being either 1: "fashionable" or 2: wanting an "easily used device".

Music = MP3's on the Samsung. Rip them from your CD's so they don't fuck you over on piracy bullshit.

Paul in NZ

10th April 2020, 20:01

I hear you - I fuckin hate them as well - but hate em all is my default setting

Berries

10th April 2020, 20:08

Horses for courses. I think Samsung sucks arse for phones.

Unfortunately I dumped many of the CDs after uploading the songs I liked off each one.
Why would anyone do that?

pritch

10th April 2020, 21:41

Sorry, but that statement needs correcting. They are a TAX AVOIDING greedy corporate.

Not unlike Microsoft, Facebook, Google, Twitter, etc etc etc?

actungbaby

11th April 2020, 00:51

Avoided Apple products for years until I was forced to use an iPhone 4s. 9 or so years later I'm on an iPhone X (due to be replaced soon) as I find they do everything I need, are user friendly and well supported.Yes are very simple to use brought my wife a 4 s. Knows she's got 5s.
I think music side speakers.well
The sound is good too.
No what got me was .if you have a problem .as phone got locked.
They treat you as it's there phone.
Unless you can prove you brought it.
Spent 3 months trying ..long story.
So that's why I don't like iPhones.
Happy with Android .I prefer them.
They will not unlock the phone [emoji34].
We even had top guy in UK looking after .us in the end I worked out old
Password.what happened .was lost access to org isp clear .so password option was out .then stubid .shop said did have serial prove purchase ,gave them this and they said was wrong one.

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actungbaby

11th April 2020, 00:55

Thanks Dave. I did rather explode yesterday but that was coming off a stressful week and just looking forward to chilling out with my music and then being denied was the last straw. So is the consensus recommendation Spotify. Does that mean I have to buy all my songs again?

Don't think I have any choice soon since 12 months ago my old PC Windows (some 18th century version) was working fine but I plugged in the nano to sync and buy another song only to have a Apple message pop-up say, We Apple have decided you can no longer use your old Windows and must buy a new Apple PC or phone. My response was of course, F*&^ you Apple and I bought a new Windows based laptop. Sadly though on signing in on the new baby the Apple database of my library of hundreds of songs vanished. Still comes up as my account, shows my $ balance etc. I have somehow managed to restore them but the hundreds I loaded up from my CD collection have been booted off. They are still on the nano device itself. Unfortunately I dumped many of the CDs after uploading the songs I liked off each one. So if/when the nano dies I lose half my library.
Love technology, it's our friend.I read where apple going kill of iTunes. Use another platform.

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Bonez

11th April 2020, 07:19

Horses for courses. I think Samsung sucks arse for phones.

Why would anyone do that?Wifey manages to set up and get around andriod on her phone with no problems:laugh:

F5 Dave

11th April 2020, 07:43

Yes are very simple to use brought my wife a 4 s. Knows she's got 5s.
I think music side speakers.well
The sound is good too.
No what got me was .if you have a problem .as phone got locked.
They treat you as it's there phone.
Unless you can prove you brought it.
Spent 3 months trying ..long story.
So that's why I don't like iPhones.
Happy with Android .I prefer them.
They will not unlock the phone [emoji34].
We even had top guy in UK looking after .us in the end I worked out old
Password.what happened .was lost access to org isp clear .so password option was out .then stubid .shop said did have serial prove purchase ,gave them this and they said was wrong one.

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And now I can read your posts.

Thank you for the extra effort.

nerrrd

11th April 2020, 07:50

Are there any corporations that aren't cash-grabbing, tax-avoiding, wannabe monopolies?? And then put exactly the opposite in their 'mission statements'? The really scary thing is that anyone working for said corporation has to voluntarily drink the Kool-aid and then regurgitate it on demand ad nauseam, you know, like a cult.

I got stuck in the Apple ecosystem thanks to the publishing industry. I have to say though my experience has been the polar opposite of yours, no hardware failures over the last 20 years of owning various iPods, iPads and Macs, including a little over two years of working at home publishing a magazine without one single IT issue that I couldn't solve myself with a Force Quit or a Restart.

My biggest issue with Apple has always been the cost of the hardware, so I try to buy refurbished or second hand wherever possible. I did buy a couple of iPhones and quickly realised they were way overpriced for my needs, so swapped to much cheaper Android phones without too many issues.

Thankfully I was suspicious of this whole digital media thing from the start, so I own physical copies of all my music. No problems ripping them in iTunes and copying the files to my Android phones for listening as required.

I'm equally suspicious of the recent trend towards subscription services - f**k you Adobe would be my particular rant on that score.

MaxPenguin

11th April 2020, 08:42

IPhones infuriate me. Android all the way. Spotify for music which is "free" with spark plan as well as Netflix.

pritch

11th April 2020, 09:50

A couple of hours after I bought my Samsung I wanted to throw it at the wall. That impulse recurred regularly.

When it started to play up I bought an iPhone SE. It was like coming home.
I'm going to be pissed off when they stop supporting it.

Ive had three iPods. The first was one of the early click wheel ones that came in any colour as long as it was white, that has died. The other two, a Nano and a Touch still function as intended.

Two iPads both of which still work.

My MacBook Pro, approaching eleven years old, is not well, but the problem was caused by me dropping it. The MacBook Air is relatively new so...

I guess I'd better buy a stack of CDs and burn the iTunes music I want to keep on to discs?

Gearup

11th April 2020, 10:10

A couple of hours after I bought my Samsung I wanted to throw it at the wall. That impulse recurred regularly.

What annoyed you so much about it?

Bonez

11th April 2020, 13:34

What annoyed you so much about it?I'm curious as well. My 60 year old wife has had no bother with hers over the years and set them up herself.

pritch

11th April 2020, 13:37

What annoyed you so much about it?

Back then I basically had a cell phone for when I was on the bike so I didn't want a plan. The phone was used for texts occasionally but rarely to make a call. I had no idea what all the apps were for and had no use for them and it wouldn't let me delete the ones I didn't use. Which was nearly all of them.

Then there was the updating thing I mentioned.

Gearup

11th April 2020, 15:13

Back then I basically had a cell phone for when I was on the bike so I didn't want a plan. The phone was used for texts occasionally but rarely to make a call. I had no idea what all the apps were for and had no use for them and it wouldn't let me delete the ones I didn't use. Which was nearly all of them.

Then there was the updating thing I mentioned.

Even Martin Cooper, the lead engineer of the Motorola team that developed the first mobile phone, reckoned they had become too complex and tried to do too many things.
However, going by sales figures, it seems people want more and more special features and it looks unlikely to change.

Bonez

11th April 2020, 17:09

I guess I'd better buy a stack of CDs and burn the iTunes music I want to keep on to discs?Save them to a USB stick(or two) and external hard drive first. Far cheaper in the end....

sugilite

12th April 2020, 09:38

The last apple I liked was the Apple 11e.
I bought up all my kids to dislike apple. My eldest son who was one of the stanchest apple haters got one when he met his girlfriend, and the whole family went WTF. After a while he saw the error of his ways and went back to android! His girlfriend is on android now as well, so she can stay in the family now - still got a weary eye on her though lol
I have acquired apple devices in the past so I can test my websites using them and without exception. Every bloody one of them has broken. I phones, ipads and i-macs have all gone poof - I'm pretty sure the "i" stands for implode.
The case that took the biscuit is when I opened the imac and the keyboard had a huge bubble under it and the mouse pad had popped up too. WTF. I took it apart and the battery packs has exploded in their funny bag holders. So a bit of research later... It was a known thing. Apples response? Yes, Lithium batteries can do that -sux to be you. :mad:

After much resistance due to deep love of mp3's, my kids finally got me on to spotify. I went pro right away, then upgraded to the seriously attractive family package. Have not looked back since - LOVE it! In settings, pays to set the download music to device quality to highest setting.

JimO

12th April 2020, 09:46

all you apple haters, its not compulsary to buy them you know, didnt samsung have problems with their phones going on fire?...over the years i have had all sorts of cellphones including my first, motorola microtac which cost $2200, all it did was make and take calls, all of them have shit themselves eventually until i bought my first iphone, i keep them a couple of years then upgrade to a new model, the old ones get sold on on TM, they get a hard life in a tradesmans pocket, dust, dropped etc. no problems at all with any of them.

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Bonez

12th April 2020, 09:55

Difference is Samsung did a tptal recall. It's take Apple about three/four iterations of their butterfly keyboards before they woke up to customer complants. They aerer abandonding them in the newer models.

Berries

12th April 2020, 13:01

I bought up all my kids to dislike apple.
Jeez, that's some issue you have.

Have never had to buy a cellphone, always been supplied with an iPhone through various jobs. Never had a problem. The first proper home computer I bought was an iMac some 15+ years ago. On my second now, one HD failure which was replaced for free. Have managed to kill two work Dell laptops in the last five years. Wife dropped her iPhone and went and brought a Samsung but life is too short and I got too frustrated trying to understand it. Kids both have iPhones because in my experience they just work. Same with the iMac. One very old iPad in the house, still works fine.

I pity the Apple fanatics, it's just a brand. Some of the anti people are just as bad though as evidenced in this thread. Needed a laptop for a second job, went for a Dell solely because of cost vs screen size. But if I had to buy my own cell phone it would be an earlier 'cheap' iPhone and if I had to replace my iMac it would be with another one.

sugilite

12th April 2020, 13:34

Jeez, that's some issue you have.

Yes it is - with apple. Every apple device I have ever had expired with very light use.
In comparison, if they were bikes, they would all be sub 10,000 km's as to when they expired.
So if you purchased 3 Kawasaki's that then shit themselves so quickly, how likely would you want another?
As for operating systems, I find them all pretty easy to navigate.

onearmedbandit

12th April 2020, 13:53

I think what we can take from this is everyone's mileage varies.

12th April 2020, 16:04

The last apple I liked was the Apple 11e.

After much resistance due to deep love of mp3's, my kids finally got me on to spotify. I went pro right away, then upgraded to the seriously attractive family package. Have not looked back since - LOVE it! In settings, pays to set the download music to device quality to highest setting.

Cheers, appreciate that info.

sugilite

13th April 2020, 10:35

Cheers, appreciate that info.
No worries, if you using desktop version of spotify premium. The following applies. As you search on music and like it (clicking on the heart beside the player controls) it starts building you a playlist of liked tracks. It also learns what you like and builds playlists that change weekly - you find them under the "made for you" heading. The two main lists are called "Discover Weekly" and "Release Radar". I have discovered lots of new artists (to me) using Discover Weekly. Release radar seems more miss than hit, but it has it's moments. Once you find a new artist, click on their name and it will load their top 5 listened too tracks across all their albums, you can drop that list down to 10. So you get a instant good selection of music to select from your latest new find artist. To do an even deeper dive when mining for new music - from that artists profile page, click on "fans also like" and wallah, you get a good list of other artists you may not of heard of that also play that genre of music. Then mine away :yes:
As you prob already know, with premium, you can set it to download your liked tracks to your phone, which you can then listen to offline if you choose. There is a bug that crops up from time to time, and that is when you are offline, it simply refuses to start playing a track. To get around it, simply fast forward or back to the next track and it wakes up.

merv

13th April 2020, 10:56

Back then I basically had a cell phone for when I was on the bike so I didn't want a plan. The phone was used for texts occasionally but rarely to make a call. I had no idea what all the apps were for and had no use for them and it wouldn't let me delete the ones I didn't use. Which was nearly all of them.

Then there was the updating thing I mentioned.

Haven't you just described exactly what an iPhone would be like to someone who just wanted a basic phone too?

F5 Dave

13th April 2020, 12:25

No worries, if you using desktop version of spotify premium. The following applies. As you search on music and like it (clicking on the heart beside the player controls) it starts building you a playlist of liked tracks. It also learns what you like and builds playlists that change weekly - you find them under the "made for you" heading. The two main lists are called "Discover Weekly" and "Release Radar". I have discovered lots of new artists (to me) using Discover Weekly. Release radar seems more miss than hit, but it has it's moments. Once you find a new artist, click on their name and it will load their top 5 listened too tracks across all their albums, you can drop that list down to 10. So you get a instant good selection of music to select from your latest new find artist. To do an even deeper dive when mining for new music - from that artists profile page, click on "fans also like" and wallah, you get a good list of other artists you may not of heard of that also play that genre of music. Then mine away :yes:
As you prob already know, with premium, you can set it to download your liked tracks to your phone, which you can then listen to offline if you choose. There is a bug that crops up from time to time, and that is when you are offline, it simply refuses to start playing a track. To get around it, simply fast forward or back to the next track and it wakes up.
I'll keep those tips in mind when we get family premium. Took me a while to remember how to spell voila. English language can be dumb. But it's French apparently.

pritch

13th April 2020, 19:36

Haven't you just described exactly what an iPhone would be like to someone who just wanted a basic phone too?

Apple seem to let you delete apps you don't want. The Android phones don't appear to consider that an option. Or it might be that it can be done, but I just didn't know how.

Jeeper

13th April 2020, 22:11

Apple seem to let you delete apps you don't want. The Android phones don't appear to consider that an option. Or it might be that it can be done, but I just didn't know how.Not all Android phones are the same. Samsung and LG have their own apps which can't be deleted (but they can be disabled). Hence I avoid both brands. Google Pixel is the purest form of Android and much more user customisable than any other versions.

Scuba_Steve

14th April 2020, 09:50

My biggest issue with Apple has always been the cost of the hardware, so I try to buy refurbished or second hand wherever possible.

Apples to Apples they're actually decently priced... The problem is they keep using the wrong Apples [*cough* Intel (especially xeon), & AMD GFX]
I.E. if you were to buy the same components they use you'd be hard pressed to beat on price & that's ignoring the custom extras you can't replicate effectively. The thing is almost no-one would buy the configuration of components they use in current day; not like 10yrs ago where what they sold is what you'd buy.

eldog

14th April 2020, 10:59

Back in the day I was given a Motorola phone. Best thing was it had on board voice message service. Didnt need to dial out to get messages. It probably still works but the cell network was phased out.

Had several flip phones both mobile and land line based all died either battery or flip hinge caused the wires to break etc. Didnt help being squashed between chest and a piece of machinery I was working on either.

Got a Samsung 4 mini after much deliberation.
It was good but lots of crap. Just ignored that.

Later got a iPad it's been great for surfing the web but that's all I use it for. Would recommend it just for that.
Battery life is good and software updates aren't that often now.

The Samsung phones are released they are not complete. The marketing people want to make sales but the manufacturing dept hasn't finished, so they smash something together to get it out the door. The reviewers only day good things so they get asked back again next release. Over the next few months the software is upgraded/completed. They have been getting better with their later releases, having found that lots of crapware really doesnt help fix bugs etc. And most people dont use aot of it.

Mates of mine swear by their Apples. Always looks like nice tech, I just never seem to be their market.

As usual the marketing dept hypes up devices which the manufacturing dept always playing catchup.

Sounds like motorbike reviews on web. Lots of gloss not a lot of long term in depth reviews.
Really how does your machine perform at night in the dark?

Other hardware/software is just the same.

The Samsung stuff has improved IMHO but I only use the basic stuff. The first 6 months had been frustrating now after a few updates it's running much smoother and how it was promised.

The apple basically runs as promised from the day I got it.

Apart from me learning how to use it.

This goes for any manfacturer:
Far too many security updates.
And
A!@#holes who like to create havoc with viruses and ransomware.
And
Subscription based payments.

14th April 2020, 21:15

Just an update to my frustrations unleashed in the op.

I goggled reset frozen ipods [Oh I'm not alone] and eventually one, of many silly suggested reset technics, did restart the wonderful, always co-operative, fantastic, easy to use device. Although the recommended process was hold two particular buttons for 8 seconds, whilst standing on your left foot, in pink underwear, eating a banana in the dark, life did re-enter the 'self selected non-operational' device, although it took 12 seconds not 8. I was worried my Missuses pink undies were possibly not the right shade to appease Apple Inc.

I still have the dilemma that one day again it will, at it's will choose to become non-operational and I dumped my decades of CDs that once upon a time were safely burned and stored on my Apple library. Still I sunk a few brandy's tonight to celebrate listening to my music that I paid to listen too.

Thank you Apple. And in case there's any confusion I still hate bloody Apple

F5 Dave

15th April 2020, 08:13

Which is why I still like paper motorcycle magazines.

I paid for them and can pull out some old ones from a box and reread the article about some crazy project bike or derusting petrol tanks.

pete376403

15th April 2020, 08:40

Just an update to my frustrations unleashed in the op.

I still have the dilemma that one day again it will, at it's will choose to become non-operational and I dumped my decades of CDs that once upon a time were safely burned and stored on my Apple library. Still I sunk a few brandy's tonight to celebrate listening to my music that I paid to listen too.

Thank you Apple. And in case there's any confusion I still hate bloody Apple

Now that its working again, wouldn't this be a good time to download your apple library to a portable hard drive and keep a backup?

15th April 2020, 16:26

Now that its working again, wouldn't this be a good time to download your apple library to a portable hard drive and keep a backup?

Good idea I will give it a go.

Bonez

15th April 2020, 17:48

It's what I suggested to pritch but I dought he will take any action.:wacko:

nerrrd

16th April 2020, 11:02

Drew

17th April 2020, 08:04

I bloody love Spotify premium

pritch

17th April 2020, 09:16

Now you can buy a new iPhone SE if you so desire.

Yes, that has been long predicted to arrive. Should some unforeseen event befall my phone and I need a new one, that's what I'd like to replace it. I'm in no rush to hand over $800 plus though. On a motorbike perhaps, on a phone nah.

nerrrd

17th April 2020, 12:57

Yes, that has been long predicted to arrive. Should some unforeseen event befall my phone and I need a new one, that's what I'd like to replace it. I'm in no rush to hand over $800 plus though. On a motorbike perhaps, on a phone nah.

My latest android phone cost $220, so doubt I'll ever own one of these (even second hand).

Bonez

17th April 2020, 13:55

My lastest android phone cost $220, so doubt I'll ever own one of these (even second hand).My Nokia cost less than that ($60) and it does what I want just nicely.:lol: I use it as a weli,umm a phone.

Drew

17th April 2020, 14:12

I paid $1200 for my current Samsung, as a package with a bunch of wireless gadgets to go with it.
It's fucken brill.

26th September 2022, 13:55

Guess I should be grateful fucking Apple allowed me another 2 years using their device that I paid them for. So now my iTunes account has decided to no longer recognise the identity of my device. The same device I have been plugging in for years. Quick search and it seems to be another familiar piss off tactic deliberately programmed into their fucking useless gadgets. Their Support/Help site is full of what to do if they cease to recognise your Apple device. For fucks sake, just DON'T CEASE TO RECOGNISE ANYONES DEVICES!! Arseholes.

Try this, try that, try another cable, try another port, restart blah blah, check you have latest version. Thanks, I did all that and no luck. The nano still works I just can't add anymore songs to it. Guess it's finally time to join Spotify. Going to visit the Apple store in town though to let them know how much I appreciate their shit useless Helpful Support site.