Licence, WoF and CoF expiry during Covid

[rastuscat]

Details of how NZTA are managing licence, WoF and CoF expiry during COVID-19


https://nzta.govt.nz/about-us/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-services-update/frequently-asked-questions/rules-changes-general-faqs/

None of mine expire any time soon, so nil implications for me. I've posted this as a heads up for anyone affected.

[Hobbyhorse]

Thanks for that.

[SaferRides]

Looks to me that NZTA hasn't extended anything, just stopped it from being an offence if it expires.

[rastuscat]

Looks to me that NZTA hasn't extended anything, just stopped it from being an offence if it expires.

Yes, looks that way. At least it's something.

[russd7]

I was able to put more Rego on our car without a current WOF, will have to get WOF once we are freed from our cells.
Cheers Rastus for posting that

[Daffyd]

The DOTR are doing the same here in the Philippines, and giving some grace for peeps to catch up.

[MarkH]

WoF due on bike any day. I'm booked for a Ride Forever gold course next month, so I'll try to get a new WoF before that - if WoF testers aren't too busy to fit me in. Good to know I won't get in any trouble if there are delays in getting the WoF.

Thanks for the info rastuscat.

[FLUB]

I've got 2 bikes and a trike with current rego. That's approximately $150/month that I cannot get use of over the lockdown. Compare that to gym membership, where it is illegal for them to charge monthly membership fees if they are not providing a service (latest bulletin from Consumer NZ). What service am I receiving from my bike rego? As the largest part of this is for the ACC and I am representing absolutely zero risk from my bikes, I think we should at least get this credited.

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[Scubbo]

still taking the fireblade to work most days :2thumbsup expire rego a few days ago.... waiting on that online rego to arrive (seriously .... its so slow even pre-lockdown, when its essentially an automated service right down to collection by the courier/post such a joke!!!!)

[jellywrestler]

Looks to me that NZTA hasn't extended anything, just stopped it from being an offence if it expires.

why would they extend it?

[jellywrestler]

I've got 2 bikes and a trike with current rego. That's approximately $150/month that I cannot get use of over the lockdown.

you are allowed to travel to various places though, that's your choice not to go out to these.

[OddDuck]

Thanks again Rastus, my license is about to expire and needing renewal. Does anyone know if they're still using those daft, uncalibrated, non-maintained eyesight checking machines imported from Australia? I had to go and pay an optometrist last time.

[FLUB]

you are allowed to travel to various places though, that's your choice not to go out to these.Unfortunately, as a Type 1 diabetic I have a compromised immune system so I'm in total lockdown [emoji17]

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[rastuscat]

I've pondered how they could apply a rego refund. It kind of makes sense (not really though) in an odd way. The gubbermint has told us not to use bikes the way we do (recreationally, at least) so a discount might be nice.

But some people only ride their bike each sunny weekend, while others use them 7 days a week.While everyone pays the same (same bike, same rego).

It could be potentially the biggest administrative nightmare NZTA has ever had to deal with.

As much as a refund would be nice, I dont see how it could work.

[Scubbo]

rego on license annual fee for cat 6. sorted.

[Berries]

As much as a refund would be nice, I don't see how it could work.
Next time you register you don't pay the ACC portion of the rego for the period of the lockdown.

Piece of piss.

[rastuscat]

Next time you register you don't pay the ACC portion of the rego for the period of the lockdown..

What of those who have been using their bikes? Emergency workers getting to work. Joe Average using his bike for his supermarket shop.

Should we exclude them from the discount? Hey, ask for free beer too. It's just as likely.

[jellywrestler]

Next time you register you don't pay the ACC portion of the rego for the period of the lockdown.

Piece of piss.

are yo taking your diary back to whitcoulls and asking for one 12th refund?

[Berries]

are yo taking your diary back to whitcoulls and asking for one 12th refund?
Nah, the month still happened so I had lots of to write. Not about riding though, just paying for the riding that I am not allowed to do.

[rastuscat]

Nah, the month still happened so I had lots of to write. Not about riding though, just paying for the riding that I am not allowed to do.

You could have used it, legally, to go to the supermarket. You chose not to. I presume.

[FJRider]

Next time you register you don't pay the ACC portion of the rego for the period of the lockdown.

Piece of piss.

No need ... some are getting a free six month rego and wof. Not a bad discount all said and done.

Can we have another pandemic in 12 months .. ??? :innocent:

[FJRider]

You could have used it, legally, to go to the supermarket. You chose not to. I presume.

Legal maybe ... but it may not have been sensible or practical. Or even that much fun even.

[FJRider]

What of those who have been using their bikes? Emergency workers getting to work. Joe Average using his bike for his supermarket shop.

Should we exclude them from the discount? Hey, ask for free beer too. It's just as likely.

Don't forget ... for some the bike is their only form of transport.

[rastuscat]

Don't forget ... for some the bike is their only form of transport.

Indeed. And everyone with any type of vehicle was subject to the same restrictions. It wasnt just bikes.

[Berries]

My bad. When I was thinking about fairness I forgot we are talking about ACC. It makes perfect sense to continue to collect the same amount of money when the risk has dropped to a pretty much negligible level due to restrictions on travel.

[FLUB]

No need ... some are getting a free six month rego and wof. Not a bad discount all said and done.

Can we have another pandemic in 12 months .. ??? :innocent:Not free. When you rego after the up to 6 month DELAY, the rego starts from the date your last one expired. So if your delay was 5 months and you bought 6 months, you'd only have 1 month left. They are giving us nothing.

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[FLUB]

Indeed. And everyone with any type of vehicle was subject to the same restrictions. It wasnt just bikes.Except my 4 litre Jaguar XJ6 costs $170 a year. My wifes Mitsubishi Mirage costs $100. My bikes cost $540 a year. Big difference.

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[FJRider]

Not free. When you rego after the up to 6 month DELAY, the rego starts from the date your last one expired. So if your delay was 5 months and you bought 6 months, you'd only have 1 month left. They are giving us nothing.


Well the good news is ... all mine are up to date. Lost nothing.

I stuck the panniers on and did a grocery shop at the other end of town.

Such is life in lockdown.



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[caspernz]

Looks to me that NZTA hasn't extended anything, just stopped it from being an offence if it expires.

If what I've read today is correct, the approach is that you'll be advised by NZTA the new expiry dates for COF / WOF once lock down is over. More relevant of course when it's COF for truck fleets of 100+, as opposed to individuals with one or two bikes :laugh:

[Scubbo]

just received new rego for the fireblade in mail, took 10 days from online "complete" to in my hand :girlfight:

[MarkH]

Easter last year I headed out on Thursday afternoon after work, went to Whakatane, then on to Gisborne the next day via East Coast Lighthouse, then home again on the Saturday.

This year the weather was great on the Friday and Saturday. I stayed home and watched TV (got through 4 seasons of Letterkenny - funny as fuck, https://youtu.be/raeE8Amt8s8). No bike riding this year, was a shame to waste the great weather.

Can't see them rebating any rego though.

[SaferRides]

Not free. When you rego after the up to 6 month DELAY, the rego starts from the date your last one expired. So if your delay was 5 months and you bought 6 months, you'd only have 1 month left. They are giving us nothing.

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[Black Knight]

Can someone help me out here-my good lady told me she heard a report a while back that stated something like if you got a WoF back in January it was still legal up to November (or something)-I ask as my ute rego falls due later this month along with my WoF-Can I register it without a WoF by using the old WoF details?-I tried to pull up the link that Rasta posted originally,but this has been withdrawn.

[pzkpfw]

https://www.nzta.govt.nz/about-us/coronavirus-disease-covid-19-services-update/new-expiry-dates-for-documents-with-temporary-extensions/

"To help smooth the transition back to compliance, the following documents are temporarily extended:

WoFs and CoFs, driver licences that expired on or after 1 January 2020. ..."

"New expiry dates
Once we start adjusting back to business as normal, new expiry dates will be set for these documents, which could extend up until 10 October 2020. We will let you know as we set these dates and will ensure you have plenty of time to get your documents compliant. Please check that we have your correct contact details – you can do this on our website."

Not particularly useful.

[Black Knight]

Thanks mate-at least the link worked this time-As you say,not very helpful-Guess I should contact NZTA and see what they say.

[SaferRides]

You do have to read it 2 or 3 times before it makes sense.

Basically, if your WoF expired after 1 January this year, you have until 10 October to renew it, but you must ensure your vehicle is safe.

Same with rego, but you can still renew it if your WoF has expired. You will have to pay for the entire period the vehicle was unlicensed if you leave it unpaid.

You will not be ticketed for an expired WoF or rego until 10 October. Auckland Council expect to lose millions because they can't issue tickets. :)

[Black Knight]

Thanks again SR-I double checked with NZTA and yep,that info is correct-The lady tells me they have been inundated with calls about the document and admits it could have been done much better.

[MarkH]

OK, at the moment my rear tyre is looking a bit close to the limit. So if I were to remove the rear wheel and throw it in the boot of the car and pop down to the bike shop so they can fit a new tyre - let's say some time in the next couple of weeks or so. Then I'm all good, no need to worry about my WoF that shows an expiring date on the first week of March? I should just leave the WoF to late Sept/early Oct?

[swarfie]

OK, at the moment my rear tyre is looking a bit close to the limit. So if I were to remove the rear wheel and throw it in the boot of the car and pop down to the bike shop so they can fit a new tyre - let's say some time in the next couple of weeks or so. Then I'm all good, no need to worry about my WoF that shows an expiring date on the first week of March? I should just leave the WoF to late Sept/early Oct?

Might want to check with your insurance company (assuming you've got insurance) to see if they'll honour the policy if it doesn't have a WOF. The mongrels will take any excuse not to pay out in the case of an accident.

[Moi]

What's wrong with people? It's not rocket science...

If your WoF expired before, let's say, 22nd March 2020 then you should have had your vehicle checked and either had a new WoF issued or had repairs done so the vehicle was roadworthy at that time. If your WoF expired during Level 4 or Level 3 then you would have had to wait until garages and testing stations opened again which was during level 2 and then gone and got your vehicle tested. So if you're still running about in a vehicle with an expired WoF it's about time you got yourself organised and got a booking so it can be checked.

As for renewing your vehicle's licence [rego for those who have difficulty with the concept of licence vs license], it can be done online and was able to be done during lockdown, which is what I did for my bike's licence which expired 8th April.

NZTA may not have worded the document as well as it could have been. However, reading it and using common sense it is easy to work out what you need to do. IMO NZTA have been very generous with allowing people such a time frame as they have. NZTA should have said, "while at Level 4 and 3 WoFs will remain valid but once we move to level 2 and testing facilities open then you'll have 6 weeks from the date of moving to level 2 to get your WoF sorted."

If your WoFs expired, go and get it sorted...

Off to find and take several of my "be kind to people" pills.

[rastuscat]

What's wrong with people? It's not rocket science...

If your WoF expired before, let's say, 22nd March 2020 then you should have had your vehicle checked and either had a new WoF issued or had repairs done so the vehicle was roadworthy at that time. If your WoF expired during Level 4 or Level 3 then you would have had to wait until garages and testing stations opened again which was during level 2 and then gone and got your vehicle tested. So if you're still running about in a vehicle with an expired WoF it's about time you got yourself organised and got a booking so it can be checked.

As for renewing your vehicle's licence [rego for those who have difficulty with the concept of licence vs license], it can be done online and was able to be done during lockdown, which is what I did for my bike's licence which expired 8th April.

NZTA may not have worded the document as well as it could have been. However, reading it and using common sense it is easy to work out what you need to do. IMO NZTA have been very generous with allowing people such a time frame as they have. NZTA should have said, "while at Level 4 and 3 WoFs will remain valid but once we move to level 2 and testing facilities open then you'll have 6 weeks from the date of moving to level 2 to get your WoF sorted."

If your WoFs expired, go and get it sorted...

Off to find and take several of my "be kind to people" pills.

What's wrong with people? I tell ya, that's a list that's too long for modern technology to fully record.

On this particular topic, what's wrong with people is wanting to kick the arse out of a situation, so interpreting a statement in a way that suits their outcome.

One example was when the government said we shouldn't drive to another suburb to get to a supermarket, when there is a local one we can use. I read a statement by some tosser who said that it didn't apply to him, as he "rides" a motorcycle, he doesn't "drive" it.

The only constant is stupidity.

[MarkH]

Might want to check with your insurance company (assuming you've got insurance) to see if they'll honour the policy if it doesn't have a WOF. The mongrels will take any excuse not to pay out in the case of an accident.

I'm pretty sure that it isn't legal for an insurance company to refuse to pay out due to a lack of WoF, though they could refuse to pay out if you are operating a vehicle while knowing that it isn't safe to do so.

[MarkH]

NZTA should have said, "while at Level 4 and 3 WoFs will remain valid but once we move to level 2 and testing facilities open then you'll have 6 weeks from the date of moving to level 2 to get your WoF sorted."

Ah yes, but they didn't say that did they.

My issue is that I don't see the point of paying to have someone else inspect my bike when I've already done that. I believe in being safe rather than paying to have an sticker that doesn't improve my safety in the least. I'm happy to pay hundreds for the new tyre that my bike needs, but I'd prefer to delay the WoF if it is legal for me to do so. For rego there isn't much to be gained, you get a year from when the old one expired rather than a year from when you pay for the new one. For the WoF it is a year from when you get it done, so there is a real benefit from delaying it.

In the past I've delayed the WoF when I haven't been using the bike, because it doesn't need a WoF to sit in the garage. Naturally I ensured I sorted the WoF in time for my next trip.

My current plan is to wait until the alert level drops and then pop in to the bike shop and order a tyre. I know I could do it today, but why fuck about worrying about social distancing and shit.

[SaferRides]

What's wrong with people? It's not rocket science...

If your WoF expired before, let's say, 22nd March 2020 then you should have had your vehicle checked and either had a new WoF issued or had repairs done so the vehicle was roadworthy at that time. If your WoF expired during Level 4 or Level 3 then you would have had to wait until garages and testing stations opened again which was during level 2 and then gone and got your vehicle tested. So if you're still running about in a vehicle with an expired WoF it's about time you got yourself organised and got a booking so it can be checked.

As for renewing your vehicle's licence [rego for those who have difficulty with the concept of licence vs license], it can be done online and was able to be done during lockdown, which is what I did for my bike's licence which expired 8th April.

NZTA may not have worded the document as well as it could have been. However, reading it and using common sense it is easy to work out what you need to do. IMO NZTA have been very generous with allowing people such a time frame as they have. NZTA should have said, "while at Level 4 and 3 WoFs will remain valid but once we move to level 2 and testing facilities open then you'll have 6 weeks from the date of moving to level 2 to get your WoF sorted."

If your WoFs expired, go and get it sorted...

Off to find and take several of my "be kind to people" pills.

Well, that may seem perfectly sensible to you, but it's not the current situation.

I can't remember exact dates, but NZ was in Levels 3 & 4 for about 8 weeks, which means that's about the backlog of expired WoF's.

No doubt there are people who went to get a WoF ASAP after Level 3 and there will those who leave it until October. I wouldn't rush to renew it if you're confident your vehicle is safe, but don't leave it too late.

[FJRider]

You do have to read it 2 or 3 times before it makes sense.

Basically, if your WoF expired after 1 January this year, you have until 10 October to renew it, but you must ensure your vehicle is safe.

Same with rego, but you can still renew it if your WoF has expired. You will have to pay for the entire period the vehicle was unlicensed if you leave it unpaid.

You will not be ticketed for an expired WoF or rego until 10 October. Auckland Council expect to lose millions because they can't issue tickets. :)

There is a clause in legislation and also mentioned when the WOF/ rego extensions were announced during lockdown ... regardless of when or if the WOF expires ... the vehicle MUST be up to WOF standard at all times. If it is not, it must not be driven/ridden on the road until it is repaired.

And you can be issued an infringement notice for "Vehicle not up to WOF standard". ($150 I think)

[Bonez]

There is a clause in legislation and also mentioned when the WOF/ rego extensions were announced during lockdown ... regardless of when or if the WOF expires ... the vehicle MUST be up to WOF standard at all times. If it is not, it must not be driven/ridden on the road until it is repaired.

And you can be issued an infringement notice for "Vehicle not up to WOF standard". ($150 I think)Exackery........The reason I just changed the CB550s rear tyre. Man this old shit is easy to slip tyres on and off of.

[rastuscat]

Except my 4 litre Jaguar XJ6 costs $170 a year. My wifes Mitsubishi Mirage costs $100. My bikes cost $540 a year. Big difference.

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The biggest difference is the cost of the injuries arising from motorcycle use.

[Berries]

if you crash.

[Bonez]

if you crash.Or get T bone by a cage.:yes: