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Motu
19th October 2005, 14:52
I have a customer who I went to primary school with,and knew him until we were late teenagers,he keeps up with some of the kids from the neighbourhood,kinda funny how we all turned out...
In our school we had one Maori family of 5 brothers and one girl,all about a year apart.I was looking last night at a 1958 school photo of the Tiny Tots,our first year in school,and I am sitting next to the middle brother,my best mate,we were in the same class until the 5th form.The older brother was a bit of a rat bag and by the time he was 21 had spent 4 yrs 9 mths inside.In one of his spells of freedom we came under his influence - and although I didn't go out with them much,they drove around in a 58 Ford getting drunk,beating people up at random,trashing and stealing from cars.When I left school at 16 and started work I decided I didn't want to go to jail just for sitting in their car,just because of the company I kept,so drifted away from my peer group and found new friends.
My classmate was obviously intelligent,although just dumb technical boys,we were always in the A class and he never appeared to put any effort into passing exams,but none of us did either.But he was beligerent and surly,the teachers never tried hard to repremand him,he just ignored them.Definatly would of gone down in their books as a least likely to succeed.
So I found out today that he went back to school after many years on tuna boats,got an engineering degree and became a ships engineer - now he is a millionare and semi retired in Dawin,just playing the money markets to keep occupied.Two of his younger brothers are also millionares,both property developers...the older brother?...um,yes,he is also a millionare,he's some sort of plantation owner in Australia....
Nice to know some of this family surpased all that was expected of them,got there by their own efforts after a few years of no direction.
duckman
19th October 2005, 15:41
Awww isn't that nice, the "unlikley to succeed" maori boys who got kicks outta stealing other peoples shit and beating people up have made good and now live a life of luxury... Well hoo fuckin Ra.
froggyfrenchman
19th October 2005, 17:17
The only way im gonna get $1m is to win LOTTO. Oh well, off to buy my ticket
Coyote
19th October 2005, 17:27
Awww isn't that nice, the "unlikley to succeed" maori boys who got kicks outta stealing other peoples shit and beating people up have made good and now live a life of luxury... Well hoo fuckin Ra.
And then the people who listen to the teacher, do their work, get good grades, treat others as they wish to be treated then get trodden on by others as always, don't get the girl, get the dead end job, owe their soul to the bank and all they can hope for is to never wake up the next morning
Yeah, can't wait
SARGE
19th October 2005, 17:38
And then the people who listen to the teacher, do their work, get good grades, treat others as they wish to be treated then get trodden on by others as always, don't get the girl, get the dead end job, owe their soul to the bank and all they can hope for is to never wake up the next morning
Yeah, can't wait
i had an old friend from school.. studied hard.. straight A student..gave up weekends to study..best university.. PHd in English and Masters in Economics
OD'd on sleeping pills a few years back after he got fired from Wal-Mart as a cashier.
the moral of the story?
live life now.. it aint fair
SPORK
19th October 2005, 17:45
And then the people who listen to the teacher, do their work, get good grades, treat others as they wish to be treated then get trodden on by others as always, don't get the girl, get the dead end job, owe their soul to the bank and all they can hope for is to never wake up the next morning
Yeah, can't wait
Good day, I take it?
cowboyz
19th October 2005, 17:48
My life was half over before I discovered it was a do-it-yourself project.
Coyote
19th October 2005, 17:55
Good day, I take it?
Oh yes! It was like prancing through tulips
Storm
19th October 2005, 18:36
with buttercups and happy music playing too?
Dont worry, you;re on KB now, you can vent it all
NordieBoy
19th October 2005, 20:28
the older brother?...um,yes,he is also a millionare,he's some sort of plantation owner in Australia....
Wonder what sort of plantation or is that a bit 'hush-hush'.
:D
Motu
19th October 2005, 20:50
Wonder what sort of plantation or is that a bit 'hush-hush'.
:D
Two months work - $20,000,airfares and accomodation paid,walk a 2 km fence line...gun supplied.
We could ask why didn't I,a privaliged pakeha given the same education and opportunaties didn't succeed in life? Well,I got heavily involved in riding motorcycles,this was my downfall into a life of poverty.
Sniper
20th October 2005, 06:34
Well done to him, if he had the drive and the motivation to go ahead and succeed, it is something he should be praised for after all the bad shit he did.
_Gina_
20th October 2005, 07:27
I can relate to this story Motu, although I am not Maori.
I was the pre teen/teen child from hell, at 12 I hooked up with a group who thought that drinking, taking drugs, doing crime and generally being antisocial was where it was at. Must have broken my parents big time because I was destined to become something in their eyes, straight A's without effort etc...Mum worked two jobs so I could go to private school.
To make a really long story short, I ended up in Bollard, then a ward of the state by the time I was 13. I was told by many people that I was a waste of space and that I was destined for a life in and out of Arohata, to which I would always reply, not @#$%en likely. Funny that, always had a bit of an attitude??!!
I was given a special dispensation (read, too bloody disruptive) in third form to leave school, so basically made it through the first two terms only. At 15 I was told that I had to go back to school or get a job, went back to school for 3 weeks then decided to get a job.
Life between 15 and 18 was interesting, I sorted myself out a little, still got up to mischief here and there, but always had a job, prided myself on being self sufficient.
Between 18 and now, I have built a boat and lived on it for 6 months, started and run my own business for 9 years, and now am employed in the corporate sector in middle management. Have 2 bikes :devil2: , loving partner, children, a home, basically a good life.
The thing I find the strangest is that if I meet people who I went to school with and who knew me when I was growing up, they just can't understand how I got here, I mean litterally the jaw drops and they are lost for words.
Somehow I think that I always knew that I would do whatever I wanted to do with my life and believed in myself always.
Well, enough of that.
Colapop
20th October 2005, 07:36
Yeah aint it funny how life turns out. I've worked my arse of but I'm no angel (i've been fired enough to prove that) You are what you make you, and if you are happy with that then it doesn't matter how much you have or don't have - success is how you judge yourself.
*sic
20th October 2005, 07:47
touchy feely..
i love you.
DMNTD
20th October 2005, 07:59
My life was half over before I discovered it was a do-it-yourself project.
:rofl: Too bloody funny yet true. Life experience counts for most... :whistle:
_Gina_
20th October 2005, 08:06
touchy feely..
i love you.
Love ya too *sic:love:
Motu
20th October 2005, 09:32
Guess it doen't take much to be a millionare these days - sell the house you bought for $25,000 25 yrs ago and,hey presto,there you go.That's what one the the younger brothers in this family did,bought a property that was rezoned residential 6 mths later,snap...on the road to success.He also went back to school,got a degree in civil engineering and now developes his own subdivisions.
It's not about being Maori,it's not about education,I had exactly the same education and opportunaties,but I guess their homelife was different to mine,that is the biggest thing that affects how we turn out.Get rid of the baggage you carry and make something out of your life.Maybe I didn't carry enough baggage to make a difference.
_Gina_
20th October 2005, 09:37
It's not about being Maori,it's not about education,I had exactly the same education and opportunaties,but I guess their homelife was different to mine,that is the biggest thing that affects how we turn out.Get rid of the baggage you carry and make something out of your life.Maybe I didn't carry enough baggage to make a difference.
Agree with that, homelife and exposure during your formative years does have a huge impact. I always thought that I was unusual in my formative experiences, but as life goes on and you are able to speak freely about what you have gone through with others I find that I am unique - just like everyone else.
I like the old saying - If you keep doing what you've always done, then you will keep getting what you have always got.
FROSTY
20th October 2005, 09:41
The only way im gonna get $1m is to win LOTTO. Oh well, off to buy my ticket
mate dont think like that---if ya wanna get rich --then do it
Krayy
20th October 2005, 11:00
...So I found out today that he went back to school after many years on tuna boats,got an engineering degree and became a ships engineer - now he is a millionare and semi retired in Dawin,just playing the money markets to keep occupied.Two of his younger brothers are also millionares,both property developers...the older brother?...um,yes,he is also a millionare,he's some sort of plantation owner in Australia....
How the hell do you make a million bucks by being a ship engineer??
Motu
20th October 2005, 11:19
How the hell do you make a million bucks by being a ship engineer??
By buying a boat,then more,and opperating a successful fishing company...then selling it.
Potzman
20th October 2005, 11:38
Yeah had the same happen to my brother, you know left school at the age of 15, did drugs, got busted by cops, trashed cars etc but now he has vented that crap out of his system he has really sorted himself out and he has lots of real life experience to show for it.
All some people need is to get it out of their system.
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