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Gezza
14th June 2020, 17:53
Hi guys
Just puchased a second hand Ohlins shock from the U.S. which has apparently been turned around by NZ customs for some reason and returned to the seller. Not sure what the issue is so hoping someone can enlighten me.
Regards
Gazza
pritch
14th June 2020, 18:21
Can you get an idea from Customs, or from the seller, who may have been advised by Customs?
The New Zealand importer is in New Plymouth but, while that may affect your access to service in future, it shouldn't effect your ability to import your own shock.
Gezza
14th June 2020, 18:50
Thanks Pritch
I'm assuming one of three things
An address issue
Shock dirty and needs cleaning (used)
Franchise issue.
I have contacted the seller and he is investigating Monday.
Regards
Gazza
pete376403
14th June 2020, 18:50
A friend imported some shocks and springs from FlyingMiata for his MX5. The springs came through ok but the shocks were turned back, something to do with containing pressurised gas. They ended up going back to FlyingMiata who sent them over again, If you like I'll get the full story from him.
Gezza
14th June 2020, 19:51
A friend imported some shocks and springs from FlyingMiata for his MX5. The springs came through ok but the shocks were turned back, something to do with containing pressurised gas. They ended up going back to FlyingMiata who sent them over again, If you like I'll get the full story from him.
Thanks Pete
Yes that would be good to know if you can possibly find out.
regards
Gazza
pete376403
14th June 2020, 20:36
OK. What he said was "The first part of it was originally the package was sent to NZ by NZ Post YouShop who wouldn't deliver it locally (!) due to pressurised gas. So it was returned to FlyingMiata in US by YouShop, not customs. FM then sent direct and it arrived in NZ without issue.
Customs cannot reject anything unless it is an illegal import. There are no restrictions on parallel importing. As long as any GST or duties are paid, that's really all Customs care about. If it was dirty MAF might have something to say"
Gezza
14th June 2020, 21:50
OK. What he said was "The first part of it was originally the package was sent to NZ by NZ Post YouShop who wouldn't deliver it locally (!) due to pressurised gas. So it was returned to FlyingMiata in US by YouShop, not customs. FM then sent direct and it arrived in NZ without issue.
Customs cannot reject anything unless it is an illegal import. There are no restrictions on parallel importing. As long as any GST or duties are paid, that's really all Customs care about. If it was dirty MAF might have something to say"
Thanks Pete
Ok, so my shock got cleared by U.S customs then to USPS facility in San Fran international distribution centre, then on to Seattle international distribution centre from there back to the senders post office so god knows what's going on. Keep you posted
Gazza
bistard
15th June 2020, 11:05
Yes, I have heard of quite a few issues with shocks being airfreighted, due to being gas pressure,even race guys, carrying them as hand luggage, stripped & depressurised!! being turned away at the airport, if they still wont send it, it needs to go seafreight, get hold of Kiwi Shipping, part of Mainfreight, based in California & bring containers, with cars, engine, bike bits on a regular basis
nzspokes
15th June 2020, 13:25
I had the same trying to ship an ohlins to aussie. Except they removed the shock and kept it. So the guy in Aussie got an empty box.
Took ages to get the shock back and had to file a ton of DG paperwork to get it to him.
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Gezza
15th June 2020, 16:57
I had the same trying to ship an ohlins to aussie. Except they removed the shock and kept it. So the guy in Aussie got an empty box.
Took ages to get the shock back and had to file a ton of DG paperwork to get it to him.
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Guys
I'm assuming then that the above will be the problem but will hear from the seller in the morning when he picks it up from the post office in Washington.
Regards
Gazza
pete376403
15th June 2020, 19:55
Would it help if the gas was released before sending, then have the shock regassed here?
Gezza
16th June 2020, 08:24
Would it help if the gas was released before sending, then have the shock regassed here?
Guys
The reason it was returned is because it has oil in it. Weather clearance can be approved by removing the oil is yet to be established. i would bet that would be a bit iffy. Also spoke to an international bike rider who told me to forget it. He is not permitted to take his shocks from NZ via air to his destination and that he has to arrange at destination. Other option as mentioned above would be to ship it.
Regards
Gazza
rustys
16th June 2020, 11:50
Strange that, just had a new set YSS gas shocks delivered from Italy, no issuies what so ever.
Bonez
16th June 2020, 12:07
Weird alright. Something has triggered customs for some reason. Oil is generally consider not an issue in most of the shipments I've done. Yeah they do tend to go hard on pressurised items but if they come on a freight a/c or are depressurised there should be no issue at all. Carry on is a big deal these days though.
Gezza
16th June 2020, 12:08
Guys
Ill take back my last thread. I believe it's not the oil but the compressed gas after speaking to Mainfreight. Anyway, after all this ive aborted the purchase bloody wankers. Rusty you're a lucky bastard lol
Regards
Gazza
scott411
20th June 2020, 06:57
yeah its a nightmare trying to fly with shocks if they know what it is, sometimes you will get lucky with them not checking,
Bonez
20th June 2020, 07:29
yeah its a nightmare trying to fly with shocks if they know what it is, sometimes you will get lucky with them not checking,The solution is easy. Just depressurise them and have a head mechanic certify they are in a letter with his contact details..:brick: You likely just get told to put it in the luggage hold.
Ian Staples
20th June 2020, 08:27
either I have missed something in the story or someone in the supply chain is an idiot. So the shocks get here buy plane and once here someone decides they have gas in them so its dangerous to put them in a plane...….. so to fix this problem the put them in a plane and send them back to the states . What have I missed ???
pritch
20th June 2020, 08:51
If that happened it fits what passes for Govt logic.
If the safety dudes remove your liquid because they suspect it might be a bomb, they place it in a bin with all the other suspected bombs. Right beside where everybody is waiting.
SaferRides
20th June 2020, 10:32
I've imported 2 shocks. I think both came by USPS .
I'll never use You Shop again after my experience with their stupidity.
pete376403
20th June 2020, 10:36
either I have missed something in the story or someone in the supply chain is an idiot. So the shocks get here buy plane and once here someone decides they have gas in them so its dangerous to put them in a plane...….. so to fix this problem the put them in a plane and send them back to the states . What have I missed ???
That is exactly what happened in my friends case. And once they were returned to the sender, Flying Miata shipped them directly rather than using NZ Post YouSend. They arrived back in NZ, Customs levied the GST which was paid and the shocks are now on the car.
Bonez
20th June 2020, 11:12
If that happened it fits what passes for Govt logic.
If the safety dudes remove your liquid because they suspect it might be a bomb, they place it in a bin with all the other suspected bombs. Right beside where everybody is waiting.Bull ship as usual. Oils-Hydraulic and motor are NOT considered DG. Pressurised containers on the other hand are.
Bonez
20th June 2020, 11:44
Couple of contacts if you are concerned you item fall under the Dangerous goods catorgory.
DGI AUCKLAND
6/180 Montgomerie Road,
Airport Oaks, Auckland International Airport, 2022
New Zealand
Phone: +64 9 255 5207
Fax: +64 9 929 3120
Manager/ Sales: graham.manning@dgiglobal.com
Accounts: accounts.nz@dgiglobal.com
Your local mainfieght office. Cemcourers for Hazardous goods but usual have a local DG guy.. A bit more expensive than some but know there stuff.
HTH
jellywrestler
20th June 2020, 12:14
either I have missed something in the story or someone in the supply chain is an idiot. So the shocks get here buy plane and once here someone decides they have gas in them so its dangerous to put them in a plane...….. so to fix this problem the put them in a plane and send them back to the states . What have I missed ???
A covid victim licking them for good measure....
Bonez
20th June 2020, 12:24
A covid victim licking them for good measure....Hey Spider are you going to be home to morrow?Just refound that 2004 Cemetery Curcuit program. Seems I put it in a very safe place and consequently forgot where that was lol. Can toodle down tomorrow or meet somewhere along the way in the Wirewrappa if it suites.
Cheers Bonez.
pete376403
20th June 2020, 17:59
Bull ship as usual. Oils-Hydraulic and motor are NOT considered DG. Pressurised containers on the other hand are.
Once again, that comprehension thing. The post refers to liquids that are removed from travellers at departure by airport security staff, on the grounds that they might be bomb making materials. Along with nail files, knitting needles and other offensive weapons, the confiscated items are placed in a bin, which is near to departing passengers. Which is probably not the best place to leave potential bombs.
Bonez
20th June 2020, 18:11
In a tread about shipping shocks. That makes sence.
Bonez
20th June 2020, 19:47
Once again, that comprehension thing. The post refers to liquids that are removed from travellers at departure by airport security staff, on the grounds that they might be bomb making materials. Along with nail files, knitting needles and other offensive weapons, the confiscated items are placed in a bin, which is near to departing passengers. Which is probably not the best place to leave potential bombs.Hmmmmmmmmm
scott411
22nd June 2020, 20:41
The solution is easy. Just depressurise them and have a head mechanic certify they are in a letter with his contact details..:brick: You likely just get told to put it in the luggage hold.
you would have take the risk that every customs officer, or airline employee will take the word of a 'head mechanic'.
there has been numerous issues with charged and uncharged shocks getting turned away, but most get through,
Bonez
23rd June 2020, 05:49
you would have take the risk that every customs officer, or airline employee will take the word of a 'head mechanic'.
there has been numerous issues with charged and uncharged shocks getting turned away, but most get through,Just point them to the appropriate IATA regulation ffs.. It's clearly witten down.
actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:06
Hi guys
Just puchased a second hand Ohlins shock from the U.S. which has apparently been turned around by NZ customs for some reason and returned to the seller. Not sure what the issue is so hoping someone can enlighten me.
Regards
GazzaI had probs with reel reel recorder .
With boo boo made on value .purchase price what pain.
Took over month .previously
Set xr 200 crank bearings .you
Shop said I chouldint send to me.
I just used us service no probs.
They said was grease B's.
Where they leaking seems odd.
You should got some message.
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:11
A friend imported some shocks and springs from FlyingMiata for his MX5. The springs came through ok but the shocks were turned back, something to do with containing pressurised gas. They ended up going back to FlyingMiata who sent them over again, If you like I'll get the full story from him.Sounds like B's to me how do things
Get imported .I had same thing.
Got somone else send them fixed.
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:13
OK. What he said was "The first part of it was originally the package was sent to NZ by NZ Post YouShop who wouldn't deliver it locally (!) due to pressurised gas. So it was returned to FlyingMiata in US by YouShop, not customs. FM then sent direct and it arrived in NZ without issue.
Customs cannot reject anything unless it is an illegal import. There are no restrictions on parallel importing. As long as any GST or duties are paid, that's really all Customs care about. If it was dirty MAF might have something to say"Yep you shop hopeless .did nothing
For me I had sort myself with customs.after ping pong.
Back forth .
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:15
Guys
The reason it was returned is because it has oil in it. Weather clearance can be approved by removing the oil is yet to be established. i would bet that would be a bit iffy. Also spoke to an international bike rider who told me to forget it. He is not permitted to take his shocks from NZ via air to his destination and that he has to arrange at destination. Other option as mentioned above would be to ship it.
Regards
GazzaThat's B's you shop morons .
Oil in it please .get stacky send it.
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:18
Strange that, just had a new set YSS gas shocks delivered from Italy, no issuies what so ever.That's because it's B's .how do think
Parts get shiped on cargo plane.
What yss like get ones for Honda
Jazz scooter NSS 250.
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:21
either I have missed something in the story or someone in the supply chain is an idiot. So the shocks get here buy plane and once here someone decides they have gas in them so its dangerous to put them in a plane...….. so to fix this problem the put them in a plane and send them back to the states . What have I missed ???Don't send you shop there dicks
Us a USA shipping no issues.
They have list what not to send.
I tryed get though them grease in
Door hinges on the plane geez.
Tiny bit in small bearing .
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actungbaby
21st August 2020, 23:22
I've imported 2 shocks. I think both came by USPS .
I'll never use You Shop again after my experience with their stupidity.Bravo like I said u get some pencil
Pusher with list .lol.
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Bonez
22nd August 2020, 05:05
That's B's you shop morons .
Oil in it please .get stacky send it.
Sent from my CPH1941 using TapatalkOil in shocks is not a problem in the cargo hold of passenger plane. Pressurised containers like remote reservoir shocks are. Just depressurise them and ship them. I had a set sent from the states last Nov. No issues at all and delivered within a week.. As I posted earlier the IATA regs are very clear about this.
Have you been drinking again actungbaby?
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