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Naki Rat
16th July 2020, 17:57
Some worrying reports coming out from these guys regarding limitations of immunity from COVID and the implications this has for both herd immunity and immunisation strategies.


https://youtu.be/JfDpuouYUFc

Gremlin
16th July 2020, 18:22
That came up a while back, while we were locked down, that some had caught covid for the 2nd time.

R650R
16th July 2020, 18:43
None of that matters under contact tracing bullshit.

All you need is the symptoms to wreck your life or be near someone with symptoms.
Then you must go into isolation for two weeks, unable to earn money to pay your mortgage or other bills.
Come out and nothing stopping you from repeating scenario.
The only thing Iím worried about catching is a Bluetooth tag.

Funny thing is presence of antibodies used to mean youíd had somethingís and the body had killed it, now it means youíve got something, such Orwellian doublespeak of highest order.

Paul in NZ
16th July 2020, 20:05
Theres a LOT we dont know about this virus... and I mean a LOT

Its pointless laying out why I'm saying that BUT there are actually people that have had it 3 times... Each time it get worse like Dengue fever..

Make of it what you will - I'm old and past caring...

FJRider
16th July 2020, 21:08
Theres a LOT we dont know about this virus... and I mean a LOT

Its pointless laying out why I'm saying that BUT there are actually people that have had it 3 times... Each time it get worse like Dengue fever..

Make of it what you will - I'm old and past caring...

Is it that people get it more than once ... or does it gets weak enough in the body ... that it fails to give a positive result to a test .. ???

Naki Rat
16th July 2020, 21:51
Is it that people get it more than once ... or does it gets weak enough in the body ... that it fails to give a positive result to a test .. ???That was my concern. It seems like 3 months is the period when reinfection occurs and if it's coming from within past cases such as a latent remaining viral presence that doesn't bode well for our COVID free status considering we have about 1,500 'recovered' cases (https://www.health.govt.nz/our-work/diseases-and-conditions/covid-19-novel-coronavirus/covid-19-current-situation/covid-19-current-cases) and many of those must be getting to about the 3 month mark since the virus was active.

Paul in NZ
17th July 2020, 09:14
Is it that people get it more than once ... or does it gets weak enough in the body ... that it fails to give a positive result to a test .. ???

Yes - the same thought occurred to me as well... But - theres a lot we don't know about this thing..

Katman
17th July 2020, 10:08
It appears there's still plenty of fear to be wrung out of the public yet.

Paul in NZ
17th July 2020, 11:43
It appears there's still plenty of fear to be wrung out of the public yet.

Meaning we shouldn't be concerned about covid-19 or something else?

Katman
17th July 2020, 11:47
Meaning we shouldn't be concerned about covid-19 or something else?

It seems some people just love to live in fear Paul.

I'm just not one of them.

Paul in NZ
17th July 2020, 12:06
It seems some people just love to live in fear Paul.

I'm just not one of them.

Oh OK... Fear is one thing.

Informed precautions are another... Its a bit like riding a motorcycle. The more knowledge you have the safer you are and there is a LOT still to learn about this virus.. That's not fear - that's common sense.

Katman
17th July 2020, 12:22
The more knowledge you have the safer you are and there is a LOT still to learn about this virus.. That's not fear - that's common sense.

And I don't disagree with that.

I suspect though, the media are more intent on fostering fear rather than knowledge.

Paul in NZ
17th July 2020, 12:34
And I don't disagree with that.

I suspect though, the media are more intent on fostering fear rather than knowledge.

Strangely I agree with you - The media are more concerned with their own stardom and making a good living and if fear does that - so be it... Sadly a lot of the media believe that they are the smartest people on the planet and the arbiters of all that is good and great. One week its all keep the borders open and save the economy and then its all why didn't you close the border sooner and oh by the way save the tourist industry and don't let anyone else in and don't borrow too much and... Mental...

Viking01
17th July 2020, 13:11
And I don't disagree with that.

I suspect though, the media are more intent on fostering fear rather than knowledge.

Maybe they are in good company :

https://www.globalresearch.ca/european-commission-adopts-gmo-vaccine-combat-non-existent-covid-19-virus/5718670

R650R
18th July 2020, 19:29
Itís the first tactically aware virus.

It knows to not go to PaknSave, Mega10, BLM protests, Amazon parcel centres or logistics workers.

It only likes to hang out on Cruise ships, resthomes, beaches, weddings, funerals, small businesses, cafes and pubs. Itís like the virus doesnít like free speech as it seems to habit the places where thereís the least amount of govt/corporate control of environment.

Never mind the whole data set is obscured.
As fear builds more tests are conducted so obviously more allegedly positive (the PCR test is known for false positives and the inventor went to his grave regretting what he had unleashed) cases are reported.
And of its so contagious a mouth swab or cough/sneeze on a petty dish should be sufficient as in testing for previous pathogens.
Funny how the test they have used is the perfect technique if you wanted to jam a RFID chip where the victim could never remove it themselves...

pritch
18th July 2020, 21:43
As fear builds more tests are conducted so obviously more allegedly positive (the PCR test is known for false positives and the inventor went to his grave regretting what he had unleashed) cases are reported.


That's the exact opposite of the situation as I've read it repeatedly. The tests produce too many false negatives.

Your comment looks close to the Donald Trump theory of pandemic response, "If we do less testing we'll have less cases."

Using that logic no worried teen should ever do a pregnancy test.

R650R
30th August 2020, 14:09
That's the exact opposite of the situation as I've read it repeatedly. The tests produce too many false negatives.

Your comment looks close to the Donald Trump theory of pandemic response, "If we do less testing we'll have less cases."

Using that logic no worried teen should ever do a pregnancy test.

Do you have any evidence of the false negatives?

Love the teen analogy as pregnancy testing doesnít stop young ladies from getting pregnant or getting pregnant again lol

pritch
1st September 2020, 13:30
Do you have any evidence of the false negatives?


Type "US Covid tests: false negatives" into the search engine of your choice. There should be heaps. One scary item mentions that including both false negatives, and false positives, the error rate is about 50%.

You need to mention the US because Trump decided the US should manufacture their own tests rather than use what everybody else uses.
Subsequently it seems, Trump's tests are as accurate as a coin toss.

Bonez
2nd September 2020, 19:29
Type "US Covid tests: false negatives" into the search engine of your choice. There should be heaps. One scary item mentions that including both false negatives, and false positives, the error rate is about 50%.

You need to mention the US because Trump decided the US should manufacture their own tests rather than use what everybody else uses.
Subsequently it seems, Trump's tests are as accurate as a coin toss.pritch have you not learnt anything the four years of posting dribble in the 2016 US presidential Election thread?

It is you, the accuser, who is to supply credible and verifiable sources not the rest of the KB members to go down that rabit hole.

HTH

Viking01
13th October 2020, 14:31
https://www.france24.com/en/20201013-doubts-over-immunity-after-man-gets-covid-second-time-with-more-severe-symptoms

SPman
17th October 2020, 16:58
Yes, people have caught it twice, and apparently it's more severe 2nd time around.....