Super Tenere Battery

[mulletman]

Stock is a YTZ12S 210cca , got it load tested yesterday and its failed so im after a Yuasa YTZ14S 230cca been quoted $400 (bout $20 more than the 12)

Can anyone point me to somewhere for a better price on the Yuasa ?

Cheers

[Bonez]

Stock is a YTZ12BS 210cca , got it load tested yesterday and its failed so im after a Yuasa YTZ14BS 230cca been quoted $400 (bout $20 more than the 12)

Can anyone point me to somewhere for a better price on the Yuasa ?

CheersWho gave you the quote? Go directly to your local Yuasa battery outlet.

[mulletman]

Who gave you the quote? Go directly to your local Yuasa battery outlet.

A bike shop quoted.

Tried 2 Yuasa outlets 1 has Motobatt only and the other cant supply...they suggested a bike shop.

[Bonez]

A bike shop quoted.

Tried 2 Yuasa outlets 1 has Motobatt only and the other cant supply...they suggested a bike shop.

I can give the chap Palmys local Yuasa outlet if you like. I find them very good.

[Bonez]

[QUOTE=mulletman;1131166849]A bike shop quoted.

Tried 2 Yuasa outlets 1 has Motobatt only and the other cant supply...they suggested a bike shop.[/QUOTETurns out they don't do m/c batteries any more. Try Super Cheap Autos if you have one. Ours stocks common yuasa m/c batteries. Motobat ones should be ok though.

[bmwilly]

Contact Cenury YUASA , the NZ agents 0800 4 YUASA

[mulletman]

Contact Cenury YUASA , the NZ agents 0800 4 YUASA

Yeah they were not much help either and said call a motorbike accessory shop.

[bmwilly]

You try a LithiumIron battery , Shorai or Ultrabatt from FastBikeGear

[Bonez]

Look fot Katana m/c batteriies on super cheap autos https://www.supercheapauto.co.nz/p/katana-yt14b-bs-katana-motorcycle-battery/SPO3080243.html

[SaferRides]

Stock is a YTZ12BS 210cca , got it load tested yesterday and its failed so im after a Yuasa YTZ14BS 230cca been quoted $400 (bout $20 more than the 12)

Can anyone point me to somewhere for a better price on the Yuasa ?

CheersTry Colemans in Auckland. The last Yuasa I bought from them was about $150 and is still going strong 4 years later.

[mulletman]

You try a LithiumIron battery , Shorai or Ultrabatt from FastBikeGear

I take it you have one and how is it ?

[mulletman]

Try Colemans in Auckland. The last Yuasa I bought from them was about $150 and is still going strong 4 years later.

Same price $400

[mulletman]

[QUOTE=mulletman;1131166849]A bike shop quoted.

Tried 2 Yuasa outlets 1 has Motobatt only and the other cant supply...they suggested a bike shop.[/QUOTETurns out they don't do m/c batteries any more. Try Super Cheap Autos if you have one. Ours stocks common yuasa m/c batteries. Motobat ones should be ok though.

Sorry missed your replies, Wont hurt looking at Super Cheap , they do have HiFlow oil filters as well.

[caseye]

Give ol Ed Bear a Hollar and get a Shoria, they are the bees knees, had one in the Coal Burner for over 5 years now, she doesn't get started more than once every 3-4 months, ALWAYS STARTS, no worries.
It was expensive, but it is still going.
Hey Ed! Where you at?
:rolleyes::first:

[mulletman]

Give ol Ed Bear a Hollar and get a Shoria, they are the bees knees, had one in the Coal Burner for over 5 years now, she doesn't get started more than once every 3-4 months, ALWAYS STARTS, no worries.
It was expensive, but it is still going.
Hey Ed! Where you at?
:rolleyes::first:

I remember that Shorai thread :whistle:

[mulletman]

Super Cheap had Katana batteries the highest CCA 190 , i need at least stock 210CCA

[BuzzardNZ]

I remember that Shorai thread :whistle:

Same here, it was a goodún :clap:

[BMWST?]

Stock is a YTZ12S 210cca , got it load tested yesterday and its failed so im after a Yuasa YTZ14S 230cca been quoted $400 (bout $20 more than the 12)

Can anyone point me to somewhere for a better price on the Yuasa ?

Cheers
i drive past a Yuasa centre most days i will check They do list a yt14b bs (https://www.yuasabatteries.co.nz/resources/battery-finder/product/battery/yt14b-bs/info)

[Owl]

I remember that Shorai thread :whistle:

So do I as I started it.:facepalm:

[mulletman]

Just been offered a new YTZ14s for pretty much half price including GST :woohoo:

[Owl]

Awesome result!:yes:

[SaferRides]

Just been offered a new YTZ14s for pretty much half price including GST :woohoo:Good result.

I had a look online and the only decent alternative I found was a Varta for $150. But it was the YTZ12 equivalent and was only 200 CCA.

[mulletman]

Good result.

I had a look online and the only decent alternative I found was a Varta for $150. But it was the YTZ12 equivalent and was only 200 CCA.

Thanks for looking :)

Right the kicker....Yuasa shipment due in NZ at the end of August - at least i'll know its not last years stock right.
In the mean time will borrow a tender and just ride weekly as usual on my days off, should be right.

[mulletman]

Did think about a Lithium tho if this didnt come thru, had a look on the Shorai and Fastbikes sites and read up a bit about these type of batteries and the type of chargers needed.

Got me thinking if there were riders that went to the Brass or ColdKiwi (not this year of course) and if they had said batt how did they go starting up in a gnarly frost ?

Also riders who live down at the lower south island and ride at this time of year how well do their bikes start up to, seeing lithiums dont like initial starting when its cold.

[pete376403]

Did think about a Lithium tho if this didnt come thru, had a look on the Shorai and Fastbikes sites and read up a bit about these type of batteries and the type of chargers needed.

Got me thinking if there were riders that went to the Brass or ColdKiwi (not this year of course) and if they had said batt how did they go starting up in a gnarly frost ?

Also riders who live down at the lower south island and ride at this time of year how well do their bikes start up to, seeing lithiums dont like initial starting when its cold.

Apparently the first starting attempt is slow, but then the power comes up (battery temperature rise or something) and then they spin up ok. I wanted to get a Lithium batt for the KLR but I understand they require fairly sophisticated charge regulation and the KLR is pretty crude in that (and most other) respects

https://www.batterystuff.com/kb/articles/battery-articles/lifepo4-lithium-iron-powersport-batteries-cold-weather-performance.html#:~:text=In%20general%20LiFePO4%20 (Lithium%20Iron,a%20little%20bit%20of%20knowledge.&text=LiFePO4%20batteries%20have%20an%20operating,t hem%20at%20temperatures%20below%20this.

[Owl]

Apparently the first starting attempt is slow, but then the power comes up (battery temperature rise or something) and then they spin up ok.

Yeah nah. This inspired me to dredge up some old info from my experiments/experience.

One of the start attempts (Winter) on my Speed Triple took 7 minutes, 48 seconds. I'd previously tried all the turning on ignition/lights variations as per instructions but to no avail. The only thing I found helped was to create a massive draw (starter) which in turn would scavenge a .05v-.06v increase to the battery. Hardly practical taking several start attempts over several minutes, not to mention stress on the start system.

The second replacement battery Shorai sent me was larger and certainly an improvement over the first two, but then when my stator died, it also damaged the battery due to over-discharge. They don't like to fall below 12.86v, something that wouldn't bother a lead-acid. On the plus side, that battery did heal itself (sort-of) and is still currently working (Aug 2011) in a Daytona 675 track bike. New owner loves it.

I'll stick with lead-acid.

[Bonez]

In the olden days motorcycles had things call kick starters. They work wonderfully well :). I'd stick with lead acid as well. I get 5 years usage even from the cheapest ones,

[SaferRides]

A lithium battery should include a battery management system (BMS) that among other things, prevents damage to the cells if the voltage drops too low. Last time I looked, Shorai batteries didn't include this feature.

The R1 has a 4 year old Yuasa. It sat for nearly 3 months earlier this year without being started, so I hooked up a smart charger to top it up. The charger spent a few minutes doing its thing and decided the battery was fully charged.

[Gremlin]

Did think about a Lithium tho if this didnt come thru, had a look on the Shorai and Fastbikes sites and read up a bit about these type of batteries and the type of chargers needed.

Got me thinking if there were riders that went to the Brass or ColdKiwi (not this year of course) and if they had said batt how did they go starting up in a gnarly frost ?

Also riders who live down at the lower south island and ride at this time of year how well do their bikes start up to, seeing lithiums dont like initial starting when its cold.
They definitely prefer being warmed up first - basically trying and failing to start. I've had a Shorai in my R1200GSA since 2012 ish. Did one of the MMMMM rides and it was sub zero overnight in Matawai with the BMW outside unprotected, frost on seats etc. Took 5 starts before it had enough juice to get the bike going. The laughter from the others on the first start of a single turn - uuh - was eventually silenced.

I've since bought the Shorai charger, and now that the BMW is off the road each winter, I put the battery on the BMS to keep it in top nick. Coz of that investment, I'll probably get more Shorai down the line, but the golden rule is: Ignore what they suggest (often based on matching OEM and considering weight). Get the biggest one that will fit in the box. When I bought the GSA one, I bought a smaller one first, then they increased their recommendation twice. It had a packer in the bottom of the battery area, took that out and squeezed a bigger one in.

[mulletman]

They definitely prefer being warmed up first - basically trying and failing to start. I've had a Shorai in my R1200GSA since 2012 ish. Did one of the MMMMM rides and it was sub zero overnight in Matawai with the BMW outside unprotected, frost on seats etc. Took 5 starts before it had enough juice to get the bike going. The laughter from the others on the first start of a single turn - uuh - was eventually silenced.

I've since bought the Shorai charger, and now that the BMW is off the road each winter, I put the battery on the BMS to keep it in top nick. Coz of that investment, I'll probably get more Shorai down the line, but the golden rule is: Ignore what they suggest (often based on matching OEM and considering weight). Get the biggest one that will fit in the box. When I bought the GSA one, I bought a smaller one first, then they increased their recommendation twice. It had a packer in the bottom of the battery area, took that out and squeezed a bigger one in.

Thats some usefull info thanks :)

[AJL]

Thats some usefull info thanks :)

I used Power Road PLFP-20L Lithium ION 360CCA 16-24Ah Battery Poweroad
Cost more than Yuasa , works all the time

[mulletman]

I used Power Road PLFP-20L Lithium ION 360CCA 16-24Ah Battery Poweroad
Cost more than Yuasa , works all the time

Looks like a good one , thats up there in price alright !

Motorcycle Gear. POWEROAD 2nd Generation Lithium-Ion Powersports Battery (http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/poweroad-2nd-generation-lithium-ion-powersports-battery)

[SaferRides]

Looks like a good one , thats up there in price alright !

Motorcycle Gear. POWEROAD 2nd Generation Lithium-Ion Powersports Battery (http://motorcyclegear.co.nz/poweroad-2nd-generation-lithium-ion-powersports-battery)Manufacturer's website: http://m.poweroad.com/