Get a mt-07 LA now or wait

[Modestep15]

Hey guys, I’m currently on my restricted and looking to get an mt07 next year on my full. I currently have a 1990 cbr 250rr, and am wanting an mt07 quite badly. I have about 9 months until I can sit my full, I know I’m being very impatient but I was wondering if it is a good idea to get a lams mt07 and sell it when I get my full and upgrade to a full power one. What do you guys think?

Cheers :)

[rastuscat]

I'm thinking that the LAMS MT07 is always going to be popular, so shouldn't be hard to sell.

It might be a bit of a faff changing bikes twice, but you'll love the MT07 LAMS, every time I ride one it turns me into a semi-hooligan. And when you get your full, you can go up to an MT09.

You might lose a few dollars on the trades, but that's bikes for you. And you'll get 9 months of fun from the MT.

Personally, I'd be looking at an XSR700. But I'm old.

[Modestep15]

I'm thinking that the LAMS MT07 is always going to be popular, so shouldn't be hard to sell.

It might be a bit of a faff changing bikes twice, but you'll love the MT07 LAMS, every time I ride one it turns me into a semi-hooligan. And when you get your full, you can go up to an MT09.

You might lose a few dollars on the trades, but that's bikes for you. And you'll get 9 months of fun from the MT.

Personally, I'd be looking at an XSR700. But I'm old.

Cheers, I do like the XSR series so I wouldn't mind what one I end up getting

[rastuscat]

Cheers, I do like the XSR series so I wouldn't mind what one I end up getting

The XSR900 comes in a nice blue, so maybe get am MT07 LAMS, then decide what you want to upgrade too when the time comes.

Buying well reduces the pain of having to sell to upgrade.

[Modestep15]

The XSR900 comes in a nice blue, so maybe get am MT07 LAMS, then decide what you want to upgrade too when the time comes.

Buying well reduces the pain of having to sell to upgrade.

Sweet, yeah I have a little while on my LAMs still and want something more modern and I believe that the mt07 LAMs has quite a bit of power

[rastuscat]

Sweet, yeah I have a little while on my LAMs still and want something more modern and I believe that the mt07 LAMs has quite a bit of power

I'm not a big fan of massive power. I had a 160hp bike at one stage, and my first thought every time I rode it was "unnecessary".

I'm more interested in useable power, and torque. Which the MT07 LAMS does both of, well.

[Modestep15]

I'm not a big fan of massive power. I had a 160hp bike at one stage, and my first thought every time I rode it was "unnecessary".

I'm more interested in useable power, and torque. Which the MT07 LAMS does both of, well.

Awesome, so it has good power/torque whilst being restricted (because I see some people de-restricting them)

[rastuscat]

Awesome, so it has good power/torque whilst being restricted (because I see some people de-restricting them)

The MT07 was my LAMS bike of choice until the XSR came along.

As an instructor I always had people turning up fir courses on LAMS bikes. Every time I said "Let's have a go" nobody ever said no. The MT was always a gem. Lots of upright fun.

Mind you, I also love the LAMS V-Strom. I'm at the other end of the experience scale, and I just don't need eye-watering power any more. You can have a power of fun on bikes without needing massive power.

[Modestep15]

The MT07 was my LAMS bike of choice until the XSR came along.

As an instructor I always had people turning up fir courses on LAMS bikes. Every time I said "Let's have a go" nobody ever said no. The MT was always a gem. Lots of upright fun.

Mind you, I also love the LAMS V-Strom. I'm at the other end of the experience scale, and I just don't need eye-watering power any more. You can have a power of fun on bikes without needing massive power.

Yeah I'm just not sure if I should spend 7-8k for it or wait 9 months for the full power version

[caspernz]

Yeah I'm just not sure if I should spend 7-8k for it or wait 9 months for the full power version

It's a fairly simple proposition, as Rastus has already said. If you can't wait for your full and you can handle dropping a bit of value from the LAMs MT-07 then go for it.

There's been a few folks who've kept a LAMs MT-07 for a spell after passing their 6F. You don't need more grunt. Truth be told the suspension is the weakest link on this style/budget bike :innocent:

[Black Knight]

I found there was little difference in the prices of used XSR700's and 900's-The 9 is twice the bike of the 7 once the rear suspension has been sorted-I love my 9,I rarely use the power it has available (as I am older than Rastucat)but in a situation where you need it,that is a different story.I also think the XR looks way better than the MT-I would stick with the CB but thats just me.

[HEsch]

Get a second-hand 07 now, enjoy it for the next 9 months, then sell it to upgrade to whatever your heart desires when you have your full.

I went sv650 to mt09. I loved the sv to pieces but the mt is streets better (and, a better size for me so easier to handle). I was considering a full power sv650 but in the end they aren't "that" different from the LAMS version so wouldn't have alleviated my desire to get a different experience/ride (nearly 25,000kms with SVs meant I was a little bored...).

[rastuscat]

Get a second-hand 07 now, enjoy it for the next 9 months, then sell it to upgrade to whatever your heart desires when you have your full.

I went sv650 to mt09. I loved the sv to pieces but the mt is streets better (and, a better size for me so easier to handle). I was considering a full power sv650 but in the end they aren't "that" different from the LAMS version so wouldn't have alleviated my desire to get a different experience/ride (nearly 25,000kms with SVs meant I was a little bored...).

I've often found that people who bag LAMS bikes due to their limited power often haven't actually ridden one.

The LAMS V-Strom, MT07, Street 660, XSR, are all very capable bikes. The DR650 equally so. I draw the line at the street 500, it's built for people with short legs, not me.

The GPz550 is another. In fact, the list is long of LAMS bikes that I'd have as my full time ride, if I wanted a mid range ride.

Folk who look down their noses at LAMS bikes are missing a treat. I'd have a Yamaha RD400 for enjoyment and laughs, if I thought I could hide one where my wife wouldn't see it.

[Modestep15]

Get a second-hand 07 now, enjoy it for the next 9 months, then sell it to upgrade to whatever your heart desires when you have your full.

I went sv650 to mt09. I loved the sv to pieces but the mt is streets better (and, a better size for me so easier to handle). I was considering a full power sv650 but in the end they aren't "that" different from the LAMS version so wouldn't have alleviated my desire to get a different experience/ride (nearly 25,000kms with SVs meant I was a little bored...).

Cheers for your advice, I think I will get one and upgrade when I get my full

[Modestep15]

I've often found that people who bag LAMS bikes due to their limited power often haven't actually ridden one.

The LAMS V-Strom, MT07, Street 660, XSR, are all very capable bikes. The DR650 equally so. I draw the line at the street 500, it's built for people with short legs, not me.

The GPz550 is another. In fact, the list is long of LAMS bikes that I'd have as my full time ride, if I wanted a mid range ride.

Folk who look down their noses at LAMS bikes are missing a treat. I'd have a Yamaha RD400 for enjoyment and laughs, if I thought I could hide one where my wife wouldn't see it.

Yeah I think it's the name LAMS that makes me think twice which is pretty stupid because usually when I hear LAMS they are low powered bikes, but from what everyone is saying it is a very capable bike.

[Gremlin]

The LAMS V-Strom, MT07, Street 660, XSR, are all very capable bikes. The DR650 equally so. I draw the line at the street 500, it's built for people with short legs, not me.
As soon as you're paying the rego for 600cc+, why not get all the torque and hp of ~1L. :innocent: (if your licence allows of course).

[Bonez]

I've often found that people who bag LAMS bikes due to their limited power often haven't actually ridden one.

The LAMS V-Strom, MT07, Street 660, XSR, are all very capable bikes. The DR650 equally so. I draw the line at the street 500, it's built for people with short legs, not me.

The GPz550 is another. In fact, the list is long of LAMS bikes that I'd have as my full time ride, if I wanted a mid range ride.

Folk who look down their noses at LAMS bikes are missing a treat. I'd have a Yamaha RD400 for enjoyment and laughs, if I thought I could hide one where my wife wouldn't see it.
I prefer motorcycles in the 40-75hp rang. Generally (but no always)lighter, nimbler and definitely fun on the tighter roads.

Getting older, 60 plus, I prefer something I can pick up on my own and not need a six man crew to do it.

Oh and have enough puff to travel outside the city limits no problem at all:rolleyes:

Just saying...

[release_the_bees]

I prefer motorcycles in the 40-75hp ranger. Generally (but no always)lighter, nimbler and definitely fun on the tighter roads.

That makes two of us. It's nice to ride a bike where I can use all of the engine and the gears without riding like a complete hoon. There's a lot of fun to be had on a small bike going up and down though the gears on a tight and twisty bit of road. I find it a much more engaging riding experience.

If they still made VFR400s or similar, there would definitely be one in my garage.

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That makes two of us. It's nice to ride a bike where I can use all of the engine and the gears without riding like a complete hoon. There's a lot of fun to be had on a small bike going up and down though the gears on a tight and twisty bit of road. I find it a much more engaging riding experience.

If they still made VFR400s or similar, there would definitely be one in my garage.

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Yeah I think I'll be keeping my MC22 forever

[Bonez]

Yeah I think I'll be keeping my MC22 foreverYou always remember your first. Mine was a '77Honda CJ250.

Just saying...

[insomnia01]

HP is always a strong subject matter to discuss & in doing so the "Discussion" can go in all sorts of directions, I do have a couple of bikes in my garage & at the moment my 08' ZX14 is the flavour :eek5: of the season. Although it has a ton of grunt up to 200km+ I prefer to use the power down low & having gone down 1 tooth on the rear sprocket it makes it jump out of corners & more useable power in the lower rev range. Anyone can go fast :shutup: in a straight line but to me that's not what the experience is about I like to roll through corners drawing on the power available so for you stepping up once on your full license will be when the real fun begins. Distance riding is addictive also, check out NZ Distance Riders on FB

[HEsch]

Cheers for your advice, I think I will get one and upgrade when I get my full

Rastus nailed it - most of the LAMS models are a LOT of bike. Bloody good value for money, too. You'll have tons of fun regardless which you choose. I chose the SV as my first bike as I had so much feedback from older, experienced riders who said they would happily ride one over a larger engine.

Let's be honest about the power, too... You can get into plenty of trouble on a LAMS bike: a larger engine is not truly required for that, ha.

[Burnie]

Rastus nailed it - most of the LAMS models are a LOT of bike. Bloody good value for money, too. You'll have tons of fun regardless which you choose. I chose the SV as my first bike as I had so much feedback from older, experienced riders who said they would happily ride one over a larger engine.

Let's be honest about the power, too... You can get into plenty of trouble on a LAMS bike: a larger engine is not truly required for that, ha.


I got bored very quickly with the 250cc I had on my learners license. Purchased a street triple 660 before siting my restricted.
Now I have had my full license for over 3 years, and still love the 660cc bike. I am in no urgency to upgrade or go to a bigger bike.

[rastuscat]

I got bored very quickly with the 250cc I had on my learners license. Purchased a street triple 660 before siting my restricted.
Now I have had my full license for over 3 years, and still love the 660cc bike. I am in no urgency to upgrade or go to a bigger bike.
Yes, that Stripple is a gem.

[release_the_bees]

Yes, that Stripple is a gem.
If it's anything like my 675 (obviously not the outright power but the brakes, the suspension, and the handling), then I'm very jealous of the bike's that are available for learners these days. The Street Triple is a fantastic bike and would be streets ahead (no pun intended) over the KR150 that I started out on in the late 1990s.

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[Modestep15]

Cheers for all of the replies guys, going to have a look at one tomorrow :)

[rastuscat]

Cheers for all of the replies guys, going to have a look at one tomorrow :)

How did you get on?

[Modestep15]

How did you get on?

Just test road one this morning and it was great, a lot more torque and power than I thought it would have.

[rastuscat]

Just test road one this morning and it was great, a lot more torque and power than I thought it would have.

Exactly. Anyone who talks down LAMS bikes like that MT-07 probably hasn't ridden one.

[Modestep15]

Exactly. Anyone who talks down LAMS bikes like that MT-07 probably hasn't ridden one.

Yup it’s awesome, picking one up this week :D