Dirt Bike Dickheads

[FattyMax]

Apologies if there is another thread on this subject. but who the fuck are these dickheads riding around South Auckland on dirt bikes being a general pain in the arse to everyone?

[TheDemonLord]

Apologies if there is another thread on this subject. but who the fuck are these dickheads riding around South Auckland on dirt bikes being a general pain in the arse to everyone?

I believe the technical term is:

"Fuckwits"

[R650R]

Merge to this lane here

https://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php/188832-Not-going-to-end-well

I notice the cops did a mass arrest at service station on news....

[ellipsis]

...dey jus.follin the trend man...cool bros in east LA do dis shizz man...sawed it on the Y-tube bro...dats sum cool shit man...

[pete376403]

THis could be merged with the stolen bikes thread as well as it's probably where the bikes being used came from

[onearmedbandit]

THis could be merged with the stolen bikes thread as well as it's probably where the bikes being used came from

True. The video on the weekend of the cops tackling the riders at the servo made it onto a NZ rides facebook page, 90% of them up in arms over how the guy on the red bike clearly wasn't involved and the police need to be held accountable for the damage to his bike etc. Until the guy who owned that bike which was reported stolen a couple weeks back chimed in...

[nzspokes]

This is nothing new, its just getting bigger. Seems to be run by the Killer Beez.

2 bikes in the clip have been spotted as stolen, the red road bike and the DR650. Most will be stolen.

[release_the_bees]

That's the thing that pisses me off most about the whole thing - ordinary people on ordinary wages work bloody hard to save up for a dirt bike, only to have some scumbag nick off with it and hoon around with (usually) minimal consequences.

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[scumdog]

True. The video on the weekend of the cops tackling the riders at the servo made it onto a NZ rides facebook page, 90% of them up in arms over how the guy on the red bike clearly wasn't involved and the police need to be held accountable for the damage to his bike etc. Until the guy who owned that bike which was reported stolen a couple weeks back chimed in...


Yeah, nothing like going off half cock with zero facts...:weird::rolleyes:

[PrincessBandit]

See idiots frequently hooning around South Auckland streets on dirt bikes - no gear, pulling wheelies up the middle of the road etc etc. Often they’d be lucky to be much older than 15 or 16.
Pisses me off that they’d take up valuable hospital beds when they eventually smear themselves down the road surface.
Only a couple of weeks ago I was in the car travelling through Manurewa behind a kid in shorts, singlet, no helmet, sneakers, pulling monos with oncoming traffic. He was a lone rider but there’s also clusters of them that use the Great South Rd as a drag strip during afternoon traffic.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Hopefully old mate Darwin will sort them out....

[R650R]

Hopefully old mate Darwin will sort them out....

Just like God he’s too busy to catch up with all the problems in the world

[release_the_bees]

Hopefully old mate Darwin will sort them out....You just know at the end of the year, when this whole event is forgotten about, they'd show up under the motorcycle crash numbers and be used as stats to justify extracting more ACC money out of the rest of us.

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[F5 Dave]

Where's your community spirit? It's an honour to be able to contribute to something bigger than just us.

[Jeeper]

A saw a bunch of them over the weekend on Mt Eden Road last week. Just going about saving tread on their front tyres.

[release_the_bees]

Looks like our friends are back again:

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/watch-bikers-take-over-central-auckland-streets/LOZ5JFGPUTVQEWK3BNU7HIZ7AY/

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[george formby]

Damn, not a SMIDSY in sight.

Got me thinking about this... C'mon Federales, have a talk with the boss.


https://youtu.be/807PIVPxpY8

[george formby]

Looky, looky. I hope they soaked the bus tickets in vinegar before the wrists are slapped.

https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/huge-police-dirt-bike-sting-130-people-arrested-100-bikes-impounded-in-operation-into-illegal-street-racing/C6TU7CHTJQT37ANHAVUC5JDL5E/

[F5 Dave]

Hopefully more bikes are returned to their rightful owners

[caseye]

I wish I could say I understood the Polices logic in not attempting to stop these groups riding around, stopping traffic to allow their mates through red lights, cutting people off, riding on footpaths, etc etc, not to mention the FACT that most of those dirty bikes don't belong to the riders, but the Police can only come up with 27 odd bikes being found to be stolen out of the small number of bikes they impounded last week.
But I don't understand it, if you want the laws to be upheld you have to let the general public see them being upheld, if that means running down dirt bike riders because they've failed to stop, so be it. That IS a consequence of THEIR actions, no one elses!
Yesterday, after reading the article expounding the Polices worthwhle operation as published by the harold, the first thing I hear is the roar of 20 + dirty bikes and their no shoes, shorts, singleted riders, wheeling up the foot path, crossing a major intersection against a red light, weaving in and out of traffic on their back wheels and generally making the general public around them feel very unsafe and most definitely intimidated. (The aim of their doing all of the above, Intimidate the general public into letting obvious gangs do as they please)
Hunt them down.
Take the bike away, don't give it back without proof of ownership. Don't give it back until THEY spend the money and have the necessary road legal items added to it and it gets a warrant of fitness and of course Registration.
Go with an Onwer to the place where they've located their bike and take it and the people found with it to jail, then give the bike back to the rightful owner. Personally show them this is not going to be let go!
Arrest them, process every outstanding warrant they have, don't let them go unbtil all warrants, issues have been resolved. Yes it'd take a while and More resources, but once the idea came to them, that they can't do this without real consequences they would stop, not worth the hassle.
But now they get the thrill of the theft, then the thrill of riding someones elses machine into the ground doing whatever they want without anything happening to them, the Police even standing aside and letting them, because it's too hard to stop them at the time.
Our poor bloody boys and girls in Blue hate that they're told, No, they see the publics looks of abject horror and dejection that these thugs arn't being held to account at the time and they cringe when they have to stand by and watch these little cunts doing their thing.
Shit, shoulda put this in the Friday Rant.:woohoo:

[TheDemonLord]

I wish I could say I understood the Polices logic in not attempting to stop these groups riding around, stopping traffic to allow their mates through red lights, cutting people off, riding on footpaths, etc etc, not to mention the FACT that most of those dirty bikes don't belong to the riders, but the Police can only come up with 27 odd bikes being found to be stolen out of the small number of bikes they impounded last week.
But I don't understand it, if you want the laws to be upheld you have to let the general public see them being upheld, if that means running down dirt bike riders because they've failed to stop, so be it. That IS a consequence of THEIR actions, no one elses!
Yesterday, after reading the article expounding the Polices worthwhle operation as published by the harold, the first thing I hear is the roar of 20 + dirty bikes and their no shoes, shorts, singleted riders, wheeling up the foot path, crossing a major intersection against a red light, weaving in and out of traffic on their back wheels and generally making the general public around them feel very unsafe and most definitely intimidated. (The aim of their doing all of the above, Intimidate the general public into letting obvious gangs do as they please)
Hunt them down.
Take the bike away, don't give it back without proof of ownership. Don't give it back until THEY spend the money and have the necessary road legal items added to it and it gets a warrant of fitness and of course Registration.
Go with an Onwer to the place where they've located their bike and take it and the people found with it to jail, then give the bike back to the rightful owner. Personally show them this is not going to be let go!
Arrest them, process every outstanding warrant they have, don't let them go unbtil all warrants, issues have been resolved. Yes it'd take a while and More resources, but once the idea came to them, that they can't do this without real consequences they would stop, not worth the hassle.
But now they get the thrill of the theft, then the thrill of riding someones elses machine into the ground doing whatever they want without anything happening to them, the Police even standing aside and letting them, because it's too hard to stop them at the time.
Our poor bloody boys and girls in Blue hate that they're told, No, they see the publics looks of abject horror and dejection that these thugs arn't being held to account at the time and they cringe when they have to stand by and watch these little cunts doing their thing.
Shit, shoulda put this in the Friday Rant.:woohoo:

One might conjecture that it's much easier to target law abiding citizens than it is to go after Criminals...

[roogazza]

One might conjecture that it's much easier to target law abiding citizens than it is to go after Criminals...

Yes , and they usually pay their Fines as well !!!!!

Crunch em, I say !!!!! Mass arrest proceedures don't seem to happen in this PC World.....?

[release_the_bees]

https://youtu.be/TtoKz1FLVh8

Something like the UK approach would get my approval.

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[jellywrestler]

I wish I could say I understood the Polices logic in not attempting to stop these groups riding around, stopping traffic to allow their mates through red lights, cutting people off, riding on footpaths, etc etc, not to mention the FACT that most of those dirty bikes don't belong to the riders, but the Police can only come up with 27 odd bikes being found to be stolen out of the small number of bikes they impounded last week.
But I don't understand it, if you want the laws to be upheld you have to let the general public see them being upheld, if that means running down dirt bike riders because they've failed to stop, so be it. That IS a consequence of THEIR actions, no one elses!
Yesterday, after reading the article expounding the Polices worthwhle operation as published by the harold, the first thing I hear is the roar of 20 + dirty bikes and their no shoes, shorts, singleted riders, wheeling up the foot path, crossing a major intersection against a red light, weaving in and out of traffic on their back wheels and generally making the general public around them feel very unsafe and most definitely intimidated. (The aim of their doing all of the above, Intimidate the general public into letting obvious gangs do as they please)
Hunt them down.
Take the bike away, don't give it back without proof of ownership. Don't give it back until THEY spend the money and have the necessary road legal items added to it and it gets a warrant of fitness and of course Registration.
Go with an Onwer to the place where they've located their bike and take it and the people found with it to jail, then give the bike back to the rightful owner. Personally show them this is not going to be let go!
Arrest them, process every outstanding warrant they have, don't let them go unbtil all warrants, issues have been resolved. Yes it'd take a while and More resources, but once the idea came to them, that they can't do this without real consequences they would stop, not worth the hassle.
But now they get the thrill of the theft, then the thrill of riding someones elses machine into the ground doing whatever they want without anything happening to them, the Police even standing aside and letting them, because it's too hard to stop them at the time.
Our poor bloody boys and girls in Blue hate that they're told, No, they see the publics looks of abject horror and dejection that these thugs arn't being held to account at the time and they cringe when they have to stand by and watch these little cunts doing their thing.
Shit, shoulda put this in the Friday Rant.:woohoo:

a mate from northland observes two harleys nearly every night at about the same time, often different bikes that he think are running meth up there, the timing is to much of a coincidence for casual riding. Given the extent of the problem it's surprising there hasn't been a wire strung across the road, or something less sinister like a paint cannon to date....

[TheDemonLord]

Yes , and they usually pay their Fines as well !!!!!

Crunch em, I say !!!!! Mass arrest proceedures don't seem to happen in this PC World.....?

And if they don't, they have income that can be garnished to pay the fines...

[george formby]

a mate from northland observes two harleys nearly every night at about the same time, often different bikes that he think are running meth up there, the timing is to much of a coincidence for casual riding. Given the extent of the problem it's surprising there hasn't been a wire strung across the road, or something less sinister like a paint cannon to date....

Your mate could live close to me.

There are at least two gang member houses nearby. They could have a busy social life or be competing with Fastways.

[FJRider]

One might conjecture that it's much easier to target law abiding citizens than it is to go after Criminals...

Even easier to do nothing to stop this behaviour. "Real crime" has priority for Police.

This is merely a Traffic enforcement issue.



I wonder when the "Traffic Enforcement" bit kicks in ... :shifty:

[Laava]

a mate from northland observes two harleys nearly every night at about the same time, often different bikes that he think are running meth up there, the timing is to much of a coincidence for casual riding. Given the extent of the problem it's surprising there hasn't been a wire strung across the road, or something less sinister like a paint cannon to date....
V Rods with straight pipes seem to be the meth dealers delivery vehicle of choice up here. Flying under the radar type thing.

[PrincessBandit]

Herald article on a herd of the dickheads on Tamaki Drive at New Year. When will Darwin kick in?

[Laava]

We have had at least 2 of these fuckwits die in crashes here in whangarei. GFJ!
But we dont seem to get the rolling swarms of them. Yet.

[F5 Dave]

For every one of them is an honest plumber, plasterer or accountant consultant that has a missing space where their fun machine was.

[nzspokes]

Spike strips would solve it if the Police were allowed to deploy them.

[pritch]

Spike strips would solve it if the Police were allowed to deploy them.

I have avoided Auckland for many years, umm many decades actually, so I'm assuming Tamaki Drive is quite busy. There would potentially be difficulties deploying spikes for a few bikes and thereby holding up all the other traffic.

If the cops ever did round them up, they should impound the bikes then get the twats to prove where they got them.

[jellywrestler]

Spike strips would solve it if the Police were allowed to deploy them.

yeah and what happens when one of the twats who isn't wearing a brain bucket gets smashed up or killed?

[pete376403]

yeah and what happens when one of the twats who isn't wearing a brain bucket gets smashed up or killed?

Most likely he won't do it again.

[TheDemonLord]

yeah and what happens when one of the twats who isn't wearing a brain bucket gets smashed up or killed?

You high-5 the cop and buy him a beer?

[nzspokes]

yeah and what happens when one of the twats who isn't wearing a brain bucket gets smashed up or killed?

They learn not to do it again. Is that not obvious?

[PrincessBandit]

Aaaaaaaand King’s birthday weekend police crackdown results in 5 or so arrests and bikes impounded out of how many involved? I’m amazed there hasn’t been anyone killed yet by these wank stains. Its sickening watching how prolific they’ve become - and I see them very frequently on my way to and from work.

[pete376403]

Two bigs trucks and a wire rope between them could sweep up this trash pretty easily.

[Grumph]

Bring out the net guns they used to use to catch deer from choppers. The nets are weighted so accuracy isn't important, a hit on a bare head would work as well.

[pete376403]

Mark Mitchell (National) Judith 'Crusher' Collins did it with cars - now Mitchell wants to mash the motorbikes.
"Me personally I'd like to see a few of them crushed without a doubt, especially the ones to do with the gangs, the adult gangs," Mitchell told Newshub. "

National playing fast and loose with the truth here - Collins never had any car (let alone carS plural) crushed. After making much noise about it nothing happened under her watch and her replacement had one (1) car crushed, and that after leaving it so long that everything worth anyhting had been removed and an empty shell got squashed.

The bikes should be traced by VIN number and returned to the people they were stolen from.

On the other hand if he is on about crushing the riders then sure, go for it.

[R650R]

The infestation has now spread is such a problem police are now posting about it publicly in HB.
Trouble is it’s labelling all dirt bikes and to public that prob includes adventure bikes too.
For some time a large family has been on reserve grounds just south of city limits with pit tents and all with all ages enjoying a brap on the indestructible cooch grass. They’ve been well behaved but I suspect the odd near miss and perhaps others getting in on the act coupled with a couple of Karen interactions has bought the heat down.
Someone’s handbag sized dog may have been run over too…..
So anyhow if your in the bay just be aware an innocent bros across the grass to your favourite coffe spot or sunbathing may be met a different way.

[jellywrestler]

Mark Mitchell (National) Judith 'Crusher' Collins did it with cars - now Mitchell wants to mash the motorbikes.
"Me personally I'd like to see a few of them crushed without a doubt, especially the ones to do with the gangs, the adult gangs," Mitchell told Newshub. "

National playing fast and loose with the truth here - Collins never had any car (let alone carS plural) crushed. After making much noise about it nothing happened under her watch and her replacement had one (1) car crushed, and that after leaving it so long that everything worth anyhting had been removed and an empty shell got squashed.

The bikes should be traced by VIN number and returned to the people they were stolen from.

On the other hand if he is on about crushing the riders then sure, go for it.
so maybe it's time for some sort of rego system or database for non road registered bikes, otherwise how one know a bike isn't hot?

[Laava]

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/crime/300911144/one-hospitalised-after-police-car-and-dirt-bike-crash-in-whangrei
it's a good start!

[F5 Dave]

So I'd hate to be a regular Joe on a small adventure bike getting lumped in with these guys. This rhetoric in the story has me concerned with how the public will treat motorcyclists if they class them as criminals not worthy of respecting the road rules when driving around them.

Consider poor Jeff, returning home from his morning shift at BP on his CRF250 when a Police car turns in front of him at the intersection they mentioned.
Just sayin.

The alternative story is Levi is riding a stolen bike from where he pinched it and sees a cop and then somehow rides right into the front of it.
Hmm.

[TheDemonLord]

So I'd hate to be a regular Joe on a small adventure bike getting lumped in with these guys. This rhetoric in the story has me concerned with how the public will treat motorcyclists if they class them as criminals not worthy of respecting the road rules when driving around them.

Consider poor Jeff, returning home from his morning shift at BP on his CRF250 when a Police car turns in front of him at the intersection they mentioned.
Just sayin.

Kinda like how a bunch of Law abiding Kiwis got screwed by one Aussie fuckwit, who never should have been given a license...

Glad to see you having sympathy for us LFOs ;)

[Laava]

So I'd hate to be a regular Joe on a small adventure bike getting lumped in with these guys. This rhetoric in the story has me concerned with how the public will treat motorcyclists if they class them as criminals not worthy of respecting the road rules when driving around them.

Consider poor Jeff, returning home from his morning shift at BP on his CRF250 when a Police car turns in front of him at the intersection they mentioned.
Just sayin.

The alternative story is Levi is riding a stolen bike from where he pinched it and sees a cop and then somehow rides right into the front of it.
Hmm.
I both ride and drive a lot and have never had any difficulty identifying a genuine motorcyclist. Anybody riding like a cock in traffic deserves everything they get.

[F5 Dave]

Yes so you are exactly who I am not talking about.

The general public might just be able to make a distinction between a patched up gang member bikie, a sportbike and one of those dirtbike looking things but they are all noisy smelly motorcycle riders like what they read about in the paper.

[Berries]

I think the lack of helmet gives it away.

[Grumph]

So I'd hate to be a regular Joe on a small adventure bike getting lumped in with these guys. This rhetoric in the story has me concerned with how the public will treat motorcyclists if they class them as criminals not worthy of respecting the road rules when driving around them.

Consider poor Jeff, returning home from his morning shift at BP on his CRF250 when a Police car turns in front of him at the intersection they mentioned.
Just sayin.

The alternative story is Levi is riding a stolen bike from where he pinched it and sees a cop and then somehow rides right into the front of it.
Hmm.

in the SI, the organised tour groups are at times difficult to distinguish from the dirt bike rabble. Open road passing etiquette - and safety - are disregarded.

Often the only way to quickly distinguish what you're dealing with is that the tour groups tend to wear several grands worth of gear in multi colours.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if one day a member of the general public mows a group down.

[pritch]

in the SI, the organised tour groups are at times difficult to distinguish from the dirt bike rabble. Open road passing etiquette - and safety - are disregarded.

Often the only way to quickly distinguish what you're dealing with is that the tour groups tend to wear several grands worth of gear in multi colours.

Wouldn't surprise me at all if one day a member of the general public mows a group down.



It's not only tour groups. Before 'health and safety' intruded there were annually here an Easter egg and a Christmas toy run. I did one off each and thought nah!

[F5 Dave]

I think the lack of helmet gives it away.

Thank you for proving the point. Nowhere in the story does it say if the victim was or wasn't wearing a helmet.

The story is written in such a way that one is lead to assume this guy was breaking the law. Maybe he wasn't. But the take away for the general public is he likely was and likely the next time you see a bike with a high plastic mudguard they are one of those guys.

I don't want to be collateral damage from this attitude.

[Berries]

I hadn't read the story, was just suggesting how you can tell the difference between a 'dirt bike dickhead' and someone riding a legal dirt bike on the road.

Now I have read the story I cannot see any implication that this was a deliberate move by the Police, in fact it says they tried to avoid it.

My daily ride has a flappy front mudguard but this story gives me zero cause for concern. There is quite a difference between a solo rider on a CRF with his lid on riding ‘normally’ and someone on the back wheel dragging his dreads through a red light while giving the W salute or whatever to the rest of the possie. I think most motorists can see that difference.

[PrincessBandit]

Ha, latest I saw on the way home from school this afternoon - dirt bike with a car rego plate bolted to the rear :rolleyes:
The scrawny rider was wearing trackies and sneakers, but hey, he had a helmet on...

[caseye]

Ha, latest I saw on the way home from school this afternoon - dirt bike with a car rego plate bolted to the rear :rolleyes:
The scrawny rider was wearing trackies and sneakers, but hey, he had a helmet on...

Hoped you mowed em down for good measure Princess.
Saw one of these muppets come off at 2 mile bay here in Taupo, cut off a car, copped it's right front guard, skidded on his shorts across 50-100m's of tar seal on his Kevlar skin then was helped back onto the bike by one of the other 3 and they took off. No helmet, a singlet, shorts, sand shoes, they're bullet proof aye!:woohoo:
Hope the car driver isn't going to be targeted, but these cowboys being what they are I'd not be surprised if they were.
He went across the opposing traffic and was actively avoided by 3 oncoming motorists.
Moments before they had been carving up traffic on the rear wheels, passing left and right, across the whole road, wouldn't give a flying fuck!
Pity is he probably off Scot free, though I hope the gravel rash gets him. One less to worry about.:bash:

[PrincessBandit]

Must admit I was going to 105 him but there was no answer to the phone line and the online service wanted Rego, make, model, colour of tge “car”. I didn’t proceed as i though it would be too weird to put the rego plate then type “dirtbike” into the rest of the details :facepalm:

[R650R]

We now have a renegade group of three amigos in Napier now. Hard to say if they’re stolen bikes or just young dumb and brave.
Anyhow nighttime waiting outside Burgerbar no lights one on footpath two on roadway pulling wheelies for all their worth. And this is in a street where it’s a bit narrow, high crown and you always get people pulling out suddenly or doing uturns.
Fast forward couple days and same trio on city end of beach reserve ripping past family’s and all along cycleway.
If their not stolen I’m kinda impressed at their rebellion against the rules but fear my tax dollars may be funding them a chopper ride soon to ED…

[pritch]

It would seem that since the police in Auckland decided to do nothing the idea is catching on.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-democracy-reporting/300958593/police-call-for-help-on-waitara-dirt-bike-nightmare

[R650R]

It would seem that since the police in Auckland decided to do nothing the idea is catching on.


https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/politics/local-democracy-reporting/300958593/police-call-for-help-on-waitara-dirt-bike-nightmare

Good read Pritch, some interesting info there. It seems like the modern police management structure and practices is the problem. Individual cops are prevented from using their inistive and community tip offs to target offending. It sounds like they’re not allowed to investigate anything without written direction.

Funny though in another stuff article Police have psychic powers that the stop oil mob are going to be flying themselves to Wellington roads again. That sounds like the protest mob is ringing up in advance for protection so they don’t get bashed by angry commuters.

I don’t even have the access to stuff that the cops have but if I wanted to I could ID those three lads in about five mins of searching social media # wheelie # ftp # CR450 etc or just hang outside maccas for five mins and see them in same clothes.

Stuff talks about an imported “subculture” but I disagree. This sort of stuff has always been here. Me and my mates did dumb stuff around town on 250 screamers. But the cops didn’t mess about them. A foot patrol stepped out into road in CBD and in no uncertain terms told us to F off home before we had an accident or someone picked a fight. One of the lads already had a let off from no licence and cop recognised him so that was their leverage. So we complied, good old fashioned policing is all that required.

[R650R]

Looks like they taking the gloves off in Florida.Also they have passed tougher laws even spectators getting $400 fine just for being there. Mostly a car bust but a fixer does a low speed high side and KTM duke gets busted also.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-FAXqalrCF0