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Premature Accelerato
21st August 2021, 12:10
Am looking at buying a new helmet to be used for pretty much everything ie commuting , touring and the odd track day. I have looked at the MNZ website regarding helmets and it lists the approved standards but makes no mention of securing systems ie Drings and micro ratchet, other than to say that it must be fitted with a system and that it must be used. I have seen on helmets, standards that do comply but they may have either of the securing systems mentioned. Does anyone no of other sources that categorically state that one system must be used and not the other.

slofox
21st August 2021, 12:34
Last time I did a track day, (Hampton Downs), D rings were just fine.

Jaeger
21st August 2021, 12:54
Watch and learn
FortNine

Why Motorcycle Helmets Use this Ancient Buckle
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3KUdmwmhyxM

pritch
21st August 2021, 12:58
It has been a while but i thought D rings were a requirement for track days or racing. If Jaeger hadn't already posted that clip I would have.

jellywrestler
21st August 2021, 13:50
Am looking at buying a new helmet to be used for pretty much everything ie commuting , touring and the odd track day. I have looked at the MNZ website regarding helmets and it lists the approved standards but makes no mention of securing systems ie Drings and micro ratchet, other than to say that it must be fitted with a system and that it must be used. I have seen on helmets, standards that do comply but they may have either of the securing systems mentioned. Does anyone no of other sources that categorically state that one system must be used and not the other.

send a message to mnz and ask

SaferRides
21st August 2021, 14:03
I was looking for a new helmet recently and was disappointed to find a micro ratchet on the GT Air 2.

It was an interesting exercise, but after trying quite a few helmets, I bought another NXR.

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Premature Accelerato
21st August 2021, 15:08
Yep, have seen the latch on the Shoei Air 11. I notice that it is not the same as the one shown on the video and is made of Stainless steel, not plastic, so not a fair comparison. Shoei state on their web site that it is just as strong as conventional d rings but have not seen a test any where (must be very confident to make a statement like that). MNZ site is a bit vague but as suggested, will drop them an email.

SaferRides
22nd August 2021, 02:01
Yep, have seen the latch on the Shoei Air 11. I notice that it is not the same as the one shown on the video and is made of Stainless steel, not plastic, so not a fair comparison. Shoei state on their web site that it is just as strong as conventional d rings but have not seen a test any where (must be very confident to make a statement like that). MNZ site is a bit vague but as suggested, will drop them an email.I have no concerns about the safety of the latch on that helmet, but I was surprised that Shoei had used one. The only reason I can see for not using D rings is convenience.

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Premature Accelerato
16th November 2021, 08:45
Just an update on this issue. As suggested, I wrote to MNZ via their web site and asked the question. No reply. I then wrote to them the old fashioned way asking the same question and view on the matter. To date, no reply. So, either they dont know/care or the question that a helmet meeting one of their required standards but contradicting the perceived view that d rings are mandatory, has posed an interesting question that requires more research. Either way, some kind of response would be nice. Maybe they just never received the email or letter.

FJRider
16th November 2021, 15:08
... Either way, some kind of response would be nice. Maybe they just never received the email or letter.

Try again to a Person named in the Organization ... it may have just gone to spam.

Kickaha
16th November 2021, 17:56
contradicting the perceived view that d rings are mandatory

They are not mandatory, so long as the helmet meets the standard in the MNZ MOM it will pass, I have used d ring helmets and other types, it has not ever been a problem

Motig
5th December 2021, 16:27
You've all missed the important point - the D-ring was good for locking to the bike.