So its pretty late in the pandemic

[F5 Dave]

For people not to know how a fuckin mask works.

Not a Fucking mask. That would be something different, no doubt with special interest groups.

But you see these clowns in the supermarket etc , ok they may be mouth breathers, but do we really need to explain that the nose is part of the respiratory system? I mean, Really?

[george formby]

Exposed nose is the least of our problems.

Last time I was in our local Coontdoon a lady was wearing a large paper bag over her head with 2 eye holes cut out. She was having a helluva job trying to keep the bag in place as she fossicked through the salami selection.

I was laughing so hard I had to hide in the beer aisle.

[Moi]

...Last time I was in our local Coontdoon a lady was wearing a large paper bag over her head with 2 eye holes cut out...

Nothing to do with mask wearing... just hiding the evidence that she's not a natural blonde... :facepalm:

I think ferals like these (https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127107279/mataura-licensing-trust-in-crisis-mode-as-abuse-from-customers-leads-to-staff-shortages) are a bigger problem...

[TheDemonLord]

I think ferals like these (https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/health/coronavirus/127107279/mataura-licensing-trust-in-crisis-mode-as-abuse-from-customers-leads-to-staff-shortages) are a bigger problem...

Right, because the businesses are just following orders (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_orders)...

[jellywrestler]

For people not to know how a fuckin mask works.

Not a Fucking mask. That would be something different, no doubt with special interest groups.

But you see these clowns in the supermarket etc , ok they may be mouth breathers, but do we really need to explain that the nose is part of the respiratory system? I mean, Really?

i told some guy on a plane last year his life would improve quite a bit when his woman learn't to breath through her nose as she didn't understand, he was about three seats ahead and he spent the rest of the flight staring at me for some reason....

interesting the people that don't know which way up and which way out the blue and white ones go, yet they don't seem to have instructions on the boxes either.

[F5 Dave]

Good point, I forgot the other day as I usually use cotton. For sake of response I checked 2 boxes here. First gives no clue but has instructions on how to fit mask, just not which way around.
The 2nd box has a picture on the side that shows the blue side out.

Supposedly an article sez you can wash disposable masks up to 8 times and still be pretty effective. Most cotton masks without filters are much less effective. However the least effective must be the cotton ones that move when you talk and can't stop the nose being exposed.

[R650R]

Oh no it’s still early, this party only just got started. We got another three or four years of this yet. We need to be totally demoralised and locked down so we give away the freedom of petrol powered transport in 2030.

Masks are mobile petrol dishes for many people. I’d say a high percentage are reusing them and you can bet some don’t Get washed often or at all.
And it turns out those trendy homemade ones only stop 10% of particles compared to the blue ones....
And those hands that’s touched that’s petrified dish touch trolleys and food on shelves... god it must be hard for those people who worry about stuff like that.

[F5 Dave]

Is there anything you post that isn't blatent scaremongering?

[JATZ]

LOL @ R650R...
So are they petrol dishes or petrified dishes ?

[Stylo]

LOL @ R650R...
So are they petrol dishes or petrified dishes ?

Wondering what a petrol dish is myself. Difficult to win an argument with an intelligent person. An argument with someone stupid is impossible.

[Moi]

LOL @ R650R...
So are they petrol dishes or petrified dishes ?


Wondering what a petrol dish is myself. Difficult to win an argument with an intelligent person. An argument with someone stupid is impossible.

Petri dish?

[pritch]

Exposed nose is the least of our problems.

Last time I was in our local Coontdoon a lady was wearing a large paper bag over her head with 2 eye holes cut out. She was having a helluva job trying to keep the bag in place as she fossicked through the salami selection.

I was laughing so hard I had to hide in the beer aisle.

Countdown have security on the door here and I assume elsewhere, if you haven't got a mask they'll give you one. If security staff let her in like that they need a boot up the arse. They might as well not have security.

The local RSA is having the AGM Saturday, to get into the building members will need to show their vaccine passport. Many of the older members are having trouble getting one, computer illiterate, no cell ohone, no drivers licence, etc etc. TPTB will post one out but their speed of work is unlikely to have it delivered by Saturday.

There will likely be further embuggerances before this is over.

[neels]

Wondering what a petrol dish is myself. Difficult to win an argument with an intelligent person. An argument with someone stupid is impossible.
A petrol dish is what you put under an old Kawasaki to catch the dribbles until the o-rings on the interconnecting tubes have rehydrated enough to keep the fuel in again.

The shed stinks of petrol for days afterwards.....

[neels]

Many of the older members are having trouble getting one, computer illiterate, no cell ohone, no drivers licence, etc etc. TPTB will post one out but their speed of work is unlikely to have it delivered by Saturday.
To be honest I sympathise with them. I would consider myself reasonably computer and smartphone literate, and found it bloody painful to deal with.

You have to have a unique email address for each person, many couples share an email address.
You have to have a smartphone for it to work on your phone.
You have to have a printer to print the pdf if you don't have a smartphone.

Really there should be an option to go to somewhere, give them your details, and get a card printed with your vaccine pass on it that you can stick in your wallet. They're old people, so they have time.....

[nerrrd]

Really there should be an option to go to somewhere, give them your details, and get a card printed with your vaccine pass on it that you can stick in your wallet. They're old people, so they have time.....

So you can also go to a pharmacy that does vaccinations now and do it face to face. Haven’t heard how well this option is going yet.

https://www.health.govt.nz/news-media/media-releases/ministry-adds-channels-obtain-my-vaccine-pass


“In addition to postal and online generation of the Passes, we are rolling out an option for people that prefer to deal with someone face-to-face. Over the next couple of days customers will be able to go to a COVID-19 vaccinating pharmacy and request their My Vaccine Pass. Nearly 400 pharmacies around the country currently providing COVID-19 vaccinations will now also be able to assist people with getting a vaccine pass,” said Mr Dreyer.

My 86 year old Dad was able to get his over the phone, but it took many attempts and a lot of patience.

[pritch]

To be honest I sympathise with them. I would consider myself reasonably computer and smartphone literate, and found it bloody painful to deal with.

You have to have a unique email address for each person, many couples share an email address.
You have to have a smartphone for it to work on your phone.
You have to have a printer to print the pdf if you don't have a smartphone.

Really there should be an option to go to somewhere, give them your details, and get a card printed with your vaccine pass on it that you can stick in your wallet. They're old people, so they have time.....

The RSA office is trying to help with that, or some people contact the COVID phone line but they are talking a response time of four or five days. I thought those cards we were given at the time of getting the shot should count, but they are specifically excluded.

[F5 Dave]

Local chemist apparently.

[JATZ]

... I thought those cards we were given at the time of getting the shot should count, but they are specifically excluded.
Oh. I was hoping to use those as proof. I still can not get my first shot recognized here, I had it in Perth, despite calls and emails to TPTB.
Guess I won't be doing the gold RFE course ...

[pritch]

Oh. I was hoping to use those as proof. I still can not get my first shot recognized here, I had it in Perth, despite calls and emails to TPTB.
Guess I won't be doing the gold RFE course ...

Those cards are specifically excluded by the Chartered Clubs or whatever group the hosting club belongs to. Your card may be accepted elsewhere, I don't know, we're all just figuring out what's going on at this stage.

[jellywrestler]

The RSA office is trying to help with that, or some people contact the COVID phone line but they are talking a response time of four or five days. I thought those cards we were given at the time of getting the shot should count, but they are specifically excluded.

i tossed mine out, but can't even recall whether it had a proper name on it. pretty easy to forge too.

[R650R]

Typical of this govt all about appearances. Virtue signalling to the world about making people use these apps.... Be Kind says Jacinda.... batteries and the elderly not included on this promotion...

Hopefully real NZers won’t act like stasi towards the elderly. In season one of original flavour covid a popular cafe told an old 80ish lady she didn’t have to sign in as she struggled to hold a pen in hand steady. Everyone in cafe smiled on the inside and carried on with their own business and no one said a word.
Hopefully same attitude prevails after several years of a psychosis of fear being broadcast.

[roogazza]

To be honest I sympathise with them. I would consider myself reasonably computer and smartphone literate, and found it bloody painful to deal with.

You have to have a unique email address for each person, many couples share an email address.
You have to have a smartphone for it to work on your phone.
You have to have a printer to print the pdf if you don't have a smartphone.

Really there should be an option to go to somewhere, give them your details, and get a card printed with your vaccine pass on it that you can stick in your wallet. They're old people, so they have time.....

yes mate ,fucked around online a couple of times but it kept jamming. My kids are all in their 40's and reckon dads a dummy !!
Did the 0800 number for the Ministry, did wait a bit but all was done in a flash and she e mailed the cert to me... much,much faster and easier..

[Kickaha]

To be honest I sympathise with them. I would consider myself reasonably computer and smartphone literate, and found it bloody painful to deal with.



It took me less than 5 minutes from start to finish

[F5 Dave]

There was always going to be a log jam in first few days.

[pritch]

Being sometimes impatient, I did it on the first day with no great expectations. First attempt said they were busy, try again. So I did - immediately. I got through and requested the email. After the email arrived, it was quick, I selected where I wanted the passport installed on my phone and seconds later it was there. All up probably less than a minute of my time.

[Berries]

Hopefully real NZers won’t act like stasi towards the elderly. In season one of original flavour covid a popular cafe told an old 80ish lady she didn’t have to sign in as she struggled to hold a pen in hand steady. Everyone in cafe smiled on the inside and carried on with their own business and no one said a word.
I bet it was her that fucked the monkey in the first place.

[MD]

It took me a few minutes and was easy but as said on here our family shared a common email address for years. Lucky the kids are grown up now and got there own emails and the Missus had one that she hardly ever used. That's an issue though, lots of families & couples share one email address.

Print it out and keep it in your wallet. Way quicker than farting around unlocking a bloody phone that can't recognise your face under a mask and searching up the tree of knowledge folders and files to find the pdf (=Print Da Fucker)

My morning coffee at Custard Pie cart and I was asked for my pass. Took me by surprise at first until the penny dropped. They had had one abusive dick so far this morning. Urinate in his coffee I say.

[pritch]

My wallet is not for storing junk, I'll just use the phone. The phone is not cutting edge though, it doesn't do facial recognition.

I'm not sure what the problem is with email addresses. The admin officer of the local RSA has done multiple passports for the more technically challenged members, all through the local RSA email address.

Oh, and fake passports are available on Telegram at $25 a pop. That must be for the careless rich, the jabs are free.

[F5 Dave]

They just need to prosecute and publish a few times and I think the market will be suppressed somewhat.

[Katman]

So its pretty late in the pandemic

For people not to know how a fuckin mask works.

Like this?

355483

I never wore a mask even once.

[Berries]

I never wore a mask even once.
:clap:

Congratulations.

Top thread dredge.

[F5 Dave]

And a fine warning of how some can be so inconsiderate because of ignorance and lack of conscience. It's how some car drivers act forcing their way into your area because your safety is a game to them.

[Katman]

And a fine warning of how some can be so inconsiderate because of ignorance and lack of conscience. It's how some car drivers act forcing their way into your area because your safety is a game to them.

The whole mask wearing thing was nothing more than an exercise in seeing how easily manipulated people could be. The picture I put up shows the stupidity of it in it's full glory. You needed a mask to get into a restaurant but once you were seated the mask suddenly became redundant.

[nerrrd]

The whole mask wearing thing was nothing more than an exercise in seeing how easily manipulated people could be. The picture I put up shows the stupidity of it in it's full glory. You needed a mask to get into a restaurant but once you were seated the mask suddenly became redundant.

To be fair, it's hard to eat through a mask.

[TheDemonLord]

To be fair, it's hard to eat through a mask.

If the Virus is deadly enough to necessitate a Mask, then eating in public is not reasonable.
If it is reasonable to eat in public, then necessitating a mask is a farce.

[Katman]

To be fair, it's hard to eat through a mask.

So was the mask wearing for safety or was it for show?

[nerrrd]

If the Virus is deadly enough to necessitate a Mask, then eating in public is not reasonable.
If it is reasonable to eat in public, then necessitating a mask is a farce.

Even slightly deadly was deadly enough for me.

[nerrrd]

So was the mask wearing for safety or was it for show?

Neither? Both? Another reason altogether?

[F5 Dave]

Fuck there's some good circular reasoning.

But for the slow of thinking:

Health recommendation was pushing for isolation and mask wearing. They don't to in operating theatre for giggles.

But politicians were concerned that closing restaurants etc would be crippling. So they pushed for compromise.
Can you not see that?

Saying ohh there's a compromise, it must be all untrue is just poor thinking. Ooh ooh but let's say it's a conspiracy to test the public for how gullable they are. . . . By mandating a face covering that makes our fancy face recognition software redundant. You wouldn't do that if you were a socialist Totalitarian government bent on public control as you suggest.

[Katman]

Another reason altogether?

As I said - a training exercise in compliance.

And it sounds like many of you scored an A+.

[Katman]

Even slightly deadly was deadly enough for me.

You should probably park your bike up and catch the bus everywhere.

[nerrrd]

As I said - a training exercise in compliance.

And it sounds like many of you scored an A+.

You’ll get the hang of it next time.

[Katman]

You’ll get the hang of it next time.

I very much doubt it.

[nerrrd]

You should probably park your bike up and catch the bus everywhere.

Think I'll just keep wearing my helmet and bike gear, which may do nothing at all in an accident, or may stop me being more seriously injured, depending on the circumstances.

[F5 Dave]

In the middle east they use the term "Inshallah". if Allah wills. Therefore there is no point wearing a seat belt in a car because it is in God's hands anyway. I think you've stumbled onto Dogmans approach.

[TheDemonLord]

Even slightly deadly was deadly enough for me.

Is it though?

Everyday - I guarantee that you do multiple things that involve a degree of deadly risk.

This is, to me, like the person who is scared of flying, but will happily drive to the airport.

[TheDemonLord]

Fuck there's some good circular reasoning.

But for the slow of thinking:

Health recommendation was pushing for isolation and mask wearing. They don't to in operating theatre for giggles.

But politicians were concerned that closing restaurants etc would be crippling. So they pushed for compromise.
Can you not see that?

Except it is not circular reasoning. I will put the operating theatre to one side for the moment.

The degree of Compromise betrays the degree of Risk. There are some health and safety related policies that the Government does not compromise on. Try taking a pocket knife into a court house for example - there is no exception. Because of the high risk involved.

However, with Covid - yeah, we will put all these exceptions in place - because of the high risk that there is not.

Now - to be clear - I am fine with a health Recommendation. Those who want to adhere to it or those who are very worried about their health can heed that recommendation. Those of us that think is is unneccesary can choose to ignore it.

Just like Motorcycling, yes we have a Helmet law - because of the high risk associated with Head Injuries - but everything else: Stubbies and Flip Flops if you so choose - whereas I wont ride in anything less than full gear.

Which is to lead back to this: If the Risk is so benign that an exception can be granted to sit down and eat at a restaurant, then the risk is not severe enough to require legislative force.

Coming back to the Operating theatre - because of the factors around surgery: large open wounds for long period of time, people with pre-existing health conditions, close working proximity etc. Then is makes sense that this would be the standard.


You wouldn't do that if you were a socialist Totalitarian government bent on public control as you suggest.

Except that it was a Policy we imported from China - which very much is a Socialist totalitarian government bent on public control (by every objective standard)

So, kinda refutes your point there...

[Berries]

Everyday - I guarantee that you do multiple things that involve a degree of deadly risk.

This is, to me, like the person who is scared of flying, but will happily drive to the airport.
You can mitigate some of the risk when driving to the airport in a multitude of ways, from wearing a seat belt or travelling slowly or going when the roads are quiet or getting a fancy 10 star car. Once you are on the plane your life is in someone else's hands so not a fair comparison of risk at all.

Like mask wearing. If someone thought that by wearing one they would be less likely to breathe in the virus, or indeed thought they would be less likely to breathe out the virus and infect others they were doing what they thought best to mitigate things for their health and the health of others. Unlike those who shout out loud that they just didn't give a shit about other people like you did when you dredged up a three year old thread just to tell/troll everyone.

I think you will find most people moved on several years ago, apart from you and TLDR.

[Katman]

I think you will find most people moved on several years ago, apart from you and TLDR.

And yet, here you are.

[TheDemonLord]

You can mitigate some of the risk when driving to the airport in a multitude of ways, from wearing a seat belt or travelling slowly or going when the roads are quiet or getting a fancy 10 star car. Once you are on the plane your life is in someone else's hands so not a fair comparison of risk at all.

It is entirely a fair comparison, for the exact reason you outlined.

Taking a large risk which you are (mostly) in control of is psychologically preferable to taking a much smaller risk to which you are mostly not in control in.

And I appreciate that - but....


Like mask wearing. If someone thought that by wearing one they would be less likely to breathe in the virus, or indeed thought they would be less likely to breathe out the virus and infect others they were doing what they thought best to mitigate things for their health and the health of others.

So, hold up here - above, previously you outlined that it is preferable to take an increased risk that you are in control of (like say choosing to wear or not wear a mask) - but now you seem to be switching position as to require other people to manage your risks for you?

Which is it?

Surely you must see that this is an inconsistent position.

Either we are free to assume individual risk or we are not. Either the masks are effective and you wearing yours should protect you, or they are not and my not wearing one has no impact on you.


Unlike those who shout out loud that they just didn't give a shit about other people like you did when you dredged up a three year old thread just to tell/troll everyone.

I think you will find most people moved on several years ago, apart from you and TLDR.

What are the limits to giving a shit about other people?

And before you try to make the argument that there arent - let me be clear - you dont give a shit about other people in many of the same ways I dont - and this is not the moral judgement that you may think it is.

You presumably have a house - you could allow a homeless person to sleep on the floor of your house - but I am willing to bet you dont and you wouldnt - in just the same way that I dont and I wouldnt.

We both agree that there is a point where we say - You do you.

Where we draw the line differs from individual to individual, and that is fine - but we both agree that at some point, we are going to allow people we do not know to suffer from the results of their actions. If you choose to go into a public place, even with a Mask on, but with underlying health complications that means you are at an elevated risk - the demand to control the actions of everyone else just for your safety is unreasonable.

It would be the same as a Mother insisting that no one else drives on the road between 8 am and 9 am when she is doing the school run to drop her child off at school.

My issue with Mask wearing comes from its philosophical inconsistency, contradiction in policy and the fact that it was mandated.

I bumped the COVID forum because of the report that was released - many people suffered greatly as a direct result of unneccesary government policy - and the fact that no one has been held to account means that we cannot move on.

[Berries]

I bumped the COVID forum because of the report that was released - many people suffered greatly as a direct result of unneccesary government policy - and the fact that no one has been held to account means that we cannot move on.
My apologies. My bacon buttie was about to land so I answered your post in a hurry thinking it was from Katman.

The thread bump comment was related to the somewhat pointless dredging of this particular thread just for someone to proudly say they never wore a mask. That's all fine and dandy if they were sitting at home, working in a big dirty workshop, milking cows or whatever but i am guessing that would not always be the case. I would also guess that an anti-mask kind of person would not bother testing either due to the chemtrails or whatever so would have no idea if they were contagious and might actually just want to give other people a bit more space. And that is where my not giving a shit comment comes from.

[Katman]

I would also guess that an anti-mask kind of person would not bother testing either due to the chemtrails or whatever so would have no idea if they were contagious and might actually just want to give other people a bit more space. And that is where my not giving a shit comment comes from.

If I get a case of the 'sniffles', I'll keep my distance from other people.

That's just common courtesy.

[TheDemonLord]

My apologies. My bacon buttie was about to land so I answered your post in a hurry thinking it was from Katman.

To be fair, Bacon Butties are serious business, so understandable.


The thread bump comment was related to the somewhat pointless dredging of this particular thread just for someone to proudly say they never wore a mask. That's all fine and dandy if they were sitting at home, working in a big dirty workshop, milking cows or whatever but i am guessing that would not always be the case.

Me, personally, when the Mask laws were in effect, I made a point of wearing my full-face helmet, with obscured Visor.

To really make the point of how absurd the rules were.

If I am going to follow silly rules, I will do so in the most silly way possible. There were some fun times - especially when security guards and alike wanted to complain but knew they had no leg to stand on.

Then when more data became available, I stopped altogether. Some shops had issues with it, they no longer get my business. Other shops decided it was better to just leave me be - they have had my repeat custom.


I would also guess that an anti-mask kind of person would not bother testing either due to the chemtrails or whatever so would have no idea if they were contagious and might actually just want to give other people a bit more space. And that is where my not giving a shit comment comes from.

If I was sick, I tested and stayed home.

[1/32 man]

If I was sick, I tested and stayed home.


Unlike a lot of other fucktards who walked around coughing and sneezing their germs everwhere and on everything....so a fucktard rule for fucktards, of which there are many.

[TheDemonLord]

Unlike a lot of other fucktards who walked around coughing and sneezing their germs everwhere and on everything....so a fucktard rule for fucktards, of which there are many.

I had the luxury of working full time from home - not everyone else has that.

Some people who were walking around coughing and sneezing may have had to do so to keep a roof over their head and food on the table.

[pritch]

You can mitigate some of the risk when driving to the airport in a multitude of ways, from wearing a seat belt or travelling slowly or going when the roads are quiet or getting a fancy 10 star car. Once you are on the plane your life is in someone else's hands so not a fair comparison of risk at all.


That is the crux of the matter. People who are afraid of flying are closely related to control freaks. They do not like having no control whereas they will be happy driving a car - no matter how crap their driving is.

[Katman]

That is the crux of the matter. People who are afraid of flying are closely related to control freaks. They do not like having no control whereas they will be happy driving a car - no matter how crap their driving is.

What about the people who are afraid of flying but have no problem being a passenger in a car?

[R650R]

That is the crux of the matter. People who are afraid of flying are closely related to control freaks. They do not like having no control whereas they will be happy driving a car - no matter how crap their driving is.

Substitute the word flying with Covid and you have an image those more keen on freedom see the bigger picture.
Any large fear psychosis at its core likely has over consumption of mainstream media fuelled fear porn rather than any inherent personal traits being cause.
Turn off the tv a lot of fear vanishes.

I think a control freak would prefer flying, it’s highly regulated with over lapping layers of safety checks and maintainance checks where by stark contrast driving is open to anyone with poor enforcement of rules, complete ignorance of “preflight” checks by most imbibed with much higher chance of death or injury.

[pritch]

What about the people who are afraid of flying but have no problem being a passenger in a car?

What about them?

[Katman]

What about them?

Well they clearly don't have a fear of not being in control.

[TheDemonLord]

That is the crux of the matter. People who are afraid of Covid are closely related to control freaks. They do not like having no control whereas they will be happy masking up - no matter how crap their mask is.

Isnt it curious, that with a few edits, your statement still rings true.

[Katman]

Isnt it curious, that with a few edits, your statement still rings true.

Except, as I pointed out, it didn't ring true in it's first iteration.

[pritch]

Well they clearly don't have a fear of not being in control.

Discuss it with your psychiatrist the next time you see him. Or her.

[husaberg]

I think a control freak would prefer flying,
Sorry dude Your analogy fails , as a control freak would insist on being in control, whilst the control freak could insist on driving ,hows does this work when flying....
You can't reason with a conspiracy theorist ,they are a religious zealot, incapable of rational thought process , that's why they are a conspiracy theorist.
They have a inability to rationally make sense of a complicated world, so they try and make sense with a religious like belief system.
They use confirmation bias to attempt to create a pattern they can understand they then dunning kruger themselves into thinking they are experts.
See where this is going
thus Science is evil, the Jews are the devil ,big pharma is the devil, shadowy gov are the devil, big business is is plotting all evil the conspiracy theorists are some kind of white knight...
Everyone else is a sheep, while the conspiracy theorist is the lamb of god...:bleh:

[pritch]

Sorry dude Your analogy fails , as a control freak would insist on being in control, whilst the control freak could insist on driving ,hows does this work when flying....
You can't reason with a conspiracy theorist ,they are a religious zealot, incapable of rational thought process , that's why they are a conspiracy theorist.
They have a inability to rationally make sense of a complicated world, so they try and make sense with a religious like belief system.
They use confirmation bias to attempt to create a pattern they can understand they then dunning kruger themselves into thinking they are experts.
See where this is going
thus Science is evil, the Jews are the devil ,big pharma is the devil, shadowy gov are the devil, big business is is plotting all evil the conspiracy theorists are some kind of white knight...
Everyone else is a sheep, while the conspiracy theorist is the lamb of god...:bleh:



That's actually a very good summation.

Yesterday I was watching some flat earther content in my idle time. Somebody flew several flat earthers to Antarctica to see the 24hr sun which according to their beliefs was an impossibility. They also believed there were armed guards at Atarctica who would turn anybody away. When they had stayed up 24 hrs and were convinced there was 24hr sun, they performed several little exercises to prove they weren't in a studio or using a green screen. To no avail. Their former fellow travellers 'know' they performed these acts in a dome and on a green screen.

One flat earther, a pastor, said only two people can control the weather: the government and the devil. I thought it interesting that his God apparently can't control the weather.



Afterthought: In case anyone is interested, the flat earthers visit to Antarctica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsETzrRr3is

[jellywrestler]

That's actually a very good summation.

Yesterday I was watching some flat earther content in my idle time. Somebody flew several flat earthers to Antarctica to see the 24hr sun which according to their beliefs was an impossibility. They also believed there were armed guards at Atarctica who would turn anybody away. When they had stayed up 24 hrs and were convinced there was 24hr sun, they performed several little exercises to prove they weren't in a studio or using a green screen. To no avail. Their former fellow travellers 'know' they performed these acts in a dome and on a green screen.

One flat earther, a pastor, said only two people can control the weather: the government and the devil. I thought it interesting that his God apparently can't control the weather.

know one ever said thank the devil the suns come out did they???

[Katman]

That's actually a very good summation.

Yesterday I was watching some flat earther content in my idle time. Somebody flew several flat earthers to Antarctica to see the 24hr sun which according to their beliefs was an impossibility. They also believed there were armed guards at Atarctica who would turn anybody away. When they had stayed up 24 hrs and were convinced there was 24hr sun, they performed several little exercises to prove they weren't in a studio or using a green screen. To no avail. Their former fellow travellers 'know' they performed these acts in a dome and on a green screen.

One flat earther, a pastor, said only two people can control the weather: the government and the devil. I thought it interesting that his God apparently can't control the weather.

What I find truly pathetic is when people use the flat earth story to suggest an equivalence with questioning the safety of vaccines.

[husaberg]

know one ever said thank the devil the suns come out did they???
Well they say the devil is in the details....

[R650R]

That's actually a very good summation.

Yesterday I was watching some flat earther content in my idle time. Somebody flew several flat earthers to Antarctica to see the 24hr sun which according to their beliefs was an impossibility. They also believed there were armed guards at Atarctica who would turn anybody away. When they had stayed up 24 hrs and were convinced there was 24hr sun, they performed several little exercises to prove they weren't in a studio or using a green screen. To no avail. Their former fellow travellers 'know' they performed these acts in a dome and on a green screen.

One flat earther, a pastor, said only two people can control the weather: the government and the devil. I thought it interesting that his God apparently can't control the weather.



Afterthought: In case anyone is interested, the flat earthers visit to Antarctica. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsETzrRr3is

The only thing dumber than flat earthers are people who think any entertaining the idea of one or more conspiracies believes all of them.
Take JFK, moon and 911, you’ll have various crossovers depending on peoples personal life experiences…

Recently I got sidetracked into someone’s posting history checking out their bikes. OMG the flat earth group is on a whole entire different t level. I think the flat earth attracts those with least amount of scientific/technical knowledge and seems the home of anti govt/sov cit crowd.
We live in a world where people click and share memes with no authentic personal thought input combined with polarisation of political camps there is little middle ground d in anything.
Perhaps we need to send them up into space..,

[Berries]

Perhaps we need to send them up into space..,
Don't buy into that NASA bollocks, they are a special effects company owned by George Lucas.