Over confident as a new rider

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

I'm into my 7th month of riding, I ride every day, I noticed this week I'm becoming more confident or should I say riskier.

Told myself twice to tone it down, for some dumb reason my actions don't listen to my thoughts.

It's like having an angel and a devil on each shoulder, and the devil's winning

-Full throttle on deserted industrial roads
-In and out traffic on busy roads 10kph above normal traffic
-It feels like I'm turning into an arse hole but my riding feels safe and my riskier moves seem calculated or I wouldn't do them.

Is this normal? Will I tone it down ? Or should I take some time off, yes I am old enough to know better.

Advice from more seasoned riders appreciated!

[Berries]

If you really think advice from people on the internet who you don't know is worth anything then I would say give it up now and sell the bike for no other reason than all the bullshit you just posted.

Full throttle on an industrial road? Is that a Lime or a Neon scooter?

[Gremlin]

If it's a serious post, get yourself on a RideForever course. You say you're old enough to know better... perhaps you don't.

Heard once about learning. The aim is to fill your cup of skill, before you empty your cup of luck. I knew quite a few who didn't manage that. Some made one mistake and didn't get a second chance.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

If you really think advice from people on the internet who you don't know is worth anything then I would say give it up now and sell the bike for no other reason than all the bullshit you just posted.

Full throttle on an industrial road? Is that a Lime or a Neon scooter?

You seem angry at the world

Poor you x

(Very poor attempt at trying troll a reaction out of me)

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

If it's a serious post, get yourself on a RideForever course. You say you're old enough to know better... perhaps you don't.

Heard once about learning. The aim is to fill your cup of skill, before you empty your cup of luck. I knew quite a few who didn't manage that. Some made one mistake and didn't get a second chance.

Yeah I enjoyed my Bronze course, was planning on doing another soon, need some wise words in my ear.

[Berries]

Multi millionaire from Youtube eh? Nice one.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Multi millionaire from Youtube eh? Nice one.

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[BMWST?]

Yeah I enjoyed my Bronze course, was planning on doing another soon, need some wise words in my ear.
well at least you are thinking about the problem which is the first step Get your self on another training course asap. Motorcycle riding can be dangerous,you got to know how to stack things in your favour.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

well at least you are thinking about the problem which is the first step Get your self on another training course asap. Motorcycle riding can be dangerous,you got to know how to stack things in your favour.Yep, makes sense why they restrict our bikes in the first year.

[release_the_bees]

If possible, I'd recommend going onto a track training day similar to this:

https://www.pukekohemotorsport.co.nz/book/IMcb0mWvy9BkJjVQ48ugYNcO/

It's much better to scratch the itch in a safe environment with trainers around who'll help you improve, whilst still having a lot of fun.

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[Oakie]

Just keep doing what you are doing. Sooner or later you will scare yourself silly doing something and won't do that again. The trick is to scare yourself silly doing all the risky things you do and eventually you'll stop doing them. Or be dead.
40 years later I still remember 2 events when I scared myself silly while learning. Never did them again. Good that you are asking. Shows some awareness that there is a problem.

[george formby]

Just keep asking yourself what you can't see.

You should end up that busy thinking about the future that you have to slow down.

[TheDemonLord]

So, what you are describing is part of learning any new skill - there's an initial period of trepidation, followed by a period of relative 'confidence'.

A Word of Warning - this period of Confidence is when most new riders have an off or accident.

Normally after said accident comes the realisation that there is much more to learn (and thus the path to true wisdom begins).

[Corse1]

Yep, yep and yep, shouldn't take as long as it took me to sort my shit out but you asked for advice and that's the first step to understanding that you may have a problem that could have dire consequences.
Been riding for 45 odd years and been through the early times of excitement around what that right hand can do and what trouble it can get you into. Lucky to have survived a couple of the accidents I have been involved in. Not my fault but riding sensibly could have avoided them.

I have probably completed 5 gold ride forever courses now, had a period of 6-7 years where I did numerous track days.
Learning to enjoy riding a motorcycle without having to have it fully tapped out and taking too many risks can take a while. I don't need to speed to enjoy the freedom.

As TheDemonLord alludes to with the path of wisdom. The earlier you can get on board with that through training and appropriate outlets for understanding what your bike can do, the safer you will be. its a journey......

[Reckless]

As said above we have all been through it, and most of us can describe the crash that made us see the light.
Mine was into the side of a truck on my near new Kawasaki 250 F11 and there where a few after that = slow learner :facepalm:
You are prob a step ahead by recognizing it.
Ride forever will teach you but it won't stop the urges that is the speed itch you have to scratch by the sounds of it.
Track days or racing are where you realise there is nothing to prove on the road because most are 2-5 secs a lap further up the track than you.


Is this normal? YES

Will I tone it down ? not till you crash

Or should I take some time off, You can't you are addicted like us

yes I am old enough to know better. You are never old enough to know better!! Trust me I am old - then go to a classic race meeting there is the proof right there.

Most of us ride because we are addicted to the power, speed and thrill :scooter:
Do a few trackdays
or race then you will get a moped for commuting and spend you life savings on going faster :yes:
Then do superbike school and study the art of speed.
Scratch that itch in the safest way possible :woohoo::scooter:
You have to scratch it you know you do :brick::third:

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Thanks for the wise words from the seasoned riders of this forum, believe it or not Im actually taking on the advice.

Thanks also to Berries, I get it, and I understand your the forum troll, congratulations I'm sure your families proud, I'm still relatively new here so you do what you do

..... it's just, bro, I've been on the internet for 20 plus years and trolling doesn't work anymore, but hey, who am I to judge, whatever gets the blood running through your willy .

(FYI I trade on the New York stock exchange which is why I'm posting at 2am)

[Berries]

(FYI I trade on the New York stock exchange which is why I'm posting at 2am)
Yeah you said, youtube multi millionaire who retired at 40. :clap:


Was just commenting that most of your threads seem to be fishing expeditions, like the $3K exhaust upgrade to scream in industrial areas where you apparently go flat out and this one where to be honest you came across as a 16 year old blow hard. No offence.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

Yeah you said, youtube multi millionaire who retired at 40. :clap:


Was just commenting that most of your threads seem to be fishing expeditions, like the $3K exhaust upgrade to scream in industrial areas where you apparently go flat out and this one where to be honest you came across as a 16 year old blow hard. No offence.

I'm a rookie and still trying to figure it out, I thought Akrapavoc?? exhausts were cool.meh .It's not that loud.

There obviously aren't many biker's in your neck of the woods, there's an overload of blowhards in mine,I thought I was relatively tame.

[Al Bundy 4eva!]

. No offence.

I believe being offended is what's missing in society today, it teaches you how to deal with adversity.

Hence I'm not offended by the strong worded advice given to me by experienced biker's.

I can't be offended if I'm dead.

[Corse1]

I have been lucky to survive a couple of the accidents I have had over the years. Only today a work colleague has just told me he is going to sell his beloved early eighties Suzuki sports bike that he has extensively modified over the years. Must have owned for over 25 years. The reason? Every time he gets on it its hard to control the urge to have some fast fun. Its time he realises that if he keeps it, he may end up wrapping it around a power pole.

So even at his respectable age he may have the wisdom to realise what an outcome might be, he doesn't have the control to prevent the inevitable. Add to that, he wouldn't enjoy riding the bike at speeds that reduce the chances of the undesired outcome.

Its a fantastic bike so not an easy decision.

[george formby]

I have been lucky to survive a couple of the accidents I have had over the years. Only today a work colleague has just told me he is going to sell his beloved early eighties Suzuki sports bike that he has extensively modified over the years. Must have owned for over 25 years. The reason? Every time he gets on it its hard to control the urge to have some fast fun. Its time he realises that if he keeps it, he may end up wrapping it around a power pole.

So even at his respectable age he may have the wisdom to realise what an outcome might be, he doesn't have the control to prevent the inevitable. Add to that, he wouldn't enjoy riding the bike at speeds that reduce the chances of the undesired outcome.

Its a fantastic bike so not an easy decision.

How many accidents did you not survive?













:wait:

[Corse1]

How many accidents did you not survive?

:wait:

Well it meant to read like the others were extremely survivable :blink:
Come to think of it, the bikes didn't fair that well.

[Navy Boy]

Advice is for those who know the answer but wish that they didn't - As they often say :rolleyes:

I believe that you're asking for advice because you've, thankfully, worked out that you need to do more training and make a change to your whole biking equilibrium. Track days are a cracking idea - Hell a good top speed run somewhere (Off the public road of course) would be a good idea too.

Otherwise join the Institute of Advanced Motorists (IAM Roadsmart NZ - You'll find it on Google) if you want to go down the slightly more formalised improvement route. They might not make you a quicker rider but you will do your machine/s justice by riding better. ;)

[F5 Dave]

Ok herrs my take.

Some people are dicks and can't control themselves.

The road is an uncontrolled environment so there are always many risks. You have to make your evaluation if you are pushing the boundaries too far. Some practice braking from 100km may surprise you. These days with ABS makes it less scary but students we had through courses were afraid of that test. Yet would happily go on the motorway.

Obviously you need to buy a dirtbike and a Trials bike as well.


Get into it.