MotoGP 2024

[onearmedbandit]

With only 2 days until the new year, and just over 2 months until the season starts it's time for a new thread.

Who's your money on?

Will Bagnia do the triple?
Will Marc return to former glory and bring us a season in which he dominates?
Will Martin secure his dream to win a championship?
Will the new 'wunderkid' Acosta upset the apple cart and show us the new future of MotoGP?
Will Aleix throw his toys out of the cot again?
Will Jack be able to maintain his pace for an entire race?
Will the Beast find his footing at Ducati finally?
Will Honda have any chance of winning more than 1 or 2 races?
Will Marco's talent earn VR46 their first championship as a team?
Who will survive the rigorous demands of over 40 races and not succumb to injury?

So many questions, this season is going to be a doozy.

[jato]

I can see MM smoking them all

[BMWST?]

Firstly thankyou for starting the 2024 Thread
I dont know about MM dominating but i bet he will win some races and we will all know he is there

[F5 Dave]

MM, love him or hate him will get there., I feel he deserves it after all he has been through. :bleh:


. . . Then I'll go back to hating him, just you watch. :no:

[pritch]

The anticipation level is rising and it isn't all about MM. "The next MM" is playing with the big kids now. Apropos of which the "Oxley Bom Moto GP podcast" of 23 December has an interview with Kiwi Paul Trevathan, crew chief for Pedro Acosta next season. Interesting if you have a lazy hour or so.

[onearmedbandit]

The anticipation level is rising and it isn't all about MM. "The next MM" is playing with the big kids now. Apropos of which the "Oxley Bom Moto GP podcast" of 23 December has an interview with Kiwi Paul Trevathan, crew chief for Pedro Acosta next season. Interesting if you have a lazy hour or so.

Oooooo I forgot to include him in my questions, despite listening to that podcast as well!

[F5 Dave]

Ooh this is new to me, found it. Thanks for posting.

[Reckless]

I was waiting for someone to start a 2024 thread.

Be an interesting season :)

Will Franco step up, will MM do what everyone thinks he might, will Honda fix the bike, will Marini make the grade, will Fabio Di keep on the up, will JM ride more with his head and challenge, will Enea keep his team spot, will Acosta and MM crash into each other (there is trouble there) and will Bagnia keep his head and win another.

Plus a hundred more questions!!

With all the rider moves I guess I am going to have to resub to MotoGP there is really nowhere else you can watch on demand :rolleyes::ar15:

[Autech]

Pretty intriguing season ahead folks. First and foremost, where the fuck will we be watching it on? Lets hope TVNZ keep it this year, I'd rather save that coin.

Aside from this, we've got a fair few question marks:

- How long will MM be able to win on a year old bike? (there's no doubt he'll win, just not the championship, don't be silly you lot). History tells us the year old bike is pretty damn good till they get the new one dialled.
- Will Rins be able to do some magic on the Yamaha?
- Will Franco be able to do some magic on the Ducati?
- Olivera on a factory spec bike, if he stays uninjured he's a huge threat.
- Who out of Vinales, Rins or Miller will be the first to get the triple?
- Will Binder get the tools to put together a title challenge, or is the Ducati too good?
- Will Mir finish a race?
- Who will win the title between Bags and Martin?

Or

Will Acosta get on the bike, fucking smoke the whole field and we all start gushing over him even more. The last time we had a rider as promising as him entering Motogp was Joan Mir and he got himself a title, albeit an odd one.

[jato]

A sad story of one of the 90's flambouyant riders ...https://www.roadracingworld.com/news/anthony-gobert-receiving-end-of-life-care-in-australia/?fbclid=IwAR2_8l-2fZJqJjMOZUojomZEusdyIYifH-slWGA_9hVkisweXe4Nqy02tIM

[onearmedbandit]

There was a video circulating FB with a recent interview with him, fucking sad to watch, he just came across cooked. His old man was pretty tough on him, Matt Mladin posted some background on his situation.

[F5 Dave]

He popped up and on my feed a little while back vids of racing. Thought it was pretty random, but I guess that's why.

[F5 Dave]

The anticipation level is rising and it isn't all about MM. "The next MM" is playing with the big kids now. Apropos of which the "Oxley Bom Moto GP podcast" of 23 December has an interview with Kiwi Paul Trevathan, crew chief for Pedro Acosta next season. Interesting if you have a lazy hour or so.

And again. Thank you.

I'm starting to go back through the Oxley Bom motogp podcasts.

Search them out. I use podcast addict app. Bur Spotify etc snd just search. Excellent if tired, can't sleep or whatever.
Probably good in the garage too. But too busy listening to Caroline Spine or Days if the New, alternatively, of I'm working on the Stinger ahead appropriate Supertramp.

[pritch]

The title of that pod cast is interesting. Previously podcasts with 'MotoGP' in the title were threatened with legal action by Dorna's lawyers and had to remove it, even though they were promoting the product. It's possible two long serving paddock personalities had access to the right people?

[Autech]

Here's a fun fact for you older generation. I'm a millennial and I've never once in my life listened to a podcast lol.

Must be time I got onboard

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[pritch]

Here's a fun fact for you older generation. I'm a millennial and I've never once in my life listened to a podcast lol.

Must be time I got onboard



When I first went looking for podcasts the sheer volume was bewildering and it has got much bigger since then. You will probably come across some podcasts that are objectionable nonsense. I know I did. Now I listen to a variety of Brit and American news and political comment podcasts, a military site, and there are comedy shows and some that actually deal with bikes.

The BBC Global News podcast is up to date international news. That's a good one to fall asleep to, nicely moderated speaking voices and no outbursts of laughter to wake you up again.

[iYRe]

Here's a fun fact for you older generation. I'm a millennial and I've never once in my life listened to a podcast lol.

Must be time I got onboard


I'm gen X, technically, and I rarely listen to podcasts. I prefer typing txt into a MUD or BBS, or IRC.. or stuff like that. Also I ride bikes without rider aids lol

[actungbaby]

I used to run a bbs too.


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[F5 Dave]

We (wifey) like listening to a podcast to get to sleep . You can learn all manner of interesting things, like how people start cults. We're planning ours if anyone is interested in joining as a serf, but we are both a bit too lazy to put in the hard yards to get it off the ground.

We will brand under the Wellness/Spirituality banner. You will of course need to be rich, attractive, and easily manipulated, as well as not complain when sex acts are performed on you if God (me, broadly speaking) deems it necessary.

Applications on the back of a $100 note to the usual address.

[Reckless]

We (wifey) like listening to a podcast to get to sleep . You can learn all manner of interesting things, like how people start cults. We're planning ours if anyone is interested in joining as a serf, but we are both a bit too lazy to put in the hard yards to get it off the ground.


I'm in if we get to ride your bikes whenever we choose LMAO :first:

Postcasts = self inflicted brainwashing - I have a mate that went antivax he now disbelieves anything on mainstream news or even close friends opinions about almost any subject.
Just because some crackpot spouting crap has a degree doesn't mean they are not a crackpot. :weird:
I tend to agree about the news being one sided sensationalist bullshit but Total immersion into anything (except racing bikes) is not good.
The internet is the new breeding ground and you don't even have to get off your ass and go live in a cult.

On a lighter note: I just did 2 trackdays (Manfeild and Taupo) in two weeks and had a holiday at Mt Maunganui in the middle. Bloody great my Loyal Pit Bitch lets me take bikes on Holiday :cool::banana::headbang:

[F5 Dave]

I don't think you are grasping what kind if cult this will be. You'll be too busy making illegal knock off Nike to engage in anything else :blink:.

[pritch]

Postcasts = self inflicted brainwashing - I have a mate that went antivax he now disbelieves anything on mainstream news or even close friends opinions about almost any subject.
Just because some crackpot spouting crap has a degree doesn't mean they are not a crackpot. :weird:
I tend to agree about the news being one sided sensationalist bullshit but Total immersion into anything (except racing bikes) is not good.
The internet is the new breeding ground and you don't even have to get off your ass and go live in a cult.



Care is required, the algorithms are not your friends. The BBC Global News is still the gold standard for international news. On the Global News they use moderated tones and you won't get awoken by shouting or laughter just after you got to sleep.

Within Britain the BBC is fully into both sides-ism. One example of this annoyed me immensely. A reporter claimed to have information that there was Russian money in the British election. The BBC wanted to interview her about this. They couldn't have her making her statements unopposed, so they needed someone to present the other side. This was a problem, they didn't know of anybody who was pro Russian money in British elections. Since the reporter was known to be anti Brexit though, they invited a pro Brexit woman in. During the "interview" the pro Brexit woman shouted her pro Brexit crap non stop and the reporter didn't get a word in about her Russian money story. The BBC host just sat there looking stupid. A total fail.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I dont listen to podcasts. I listen to t'wireless.

[F5 Dave]

Yeah obviously skip past anything Joe Rogan or Jordan Peterson. I agree BBC for info.

Two good starters are The Inquiry and Witness which are snippets of one question examined, or witness interview of historical events.

I know we are getting off topic but just in break there not much motogp, so I will give an example of a podcast series I enjoyed and re-listened to recently.

What we saw the cold war. Search on common podcast players.

Bill Wittle is an aging political commentator but I think he has a good handle observing historical events. Some of it is surprising. He is American but he's not always "RahRah! we are great" - and his wife is apparently Russian. He does a great Moon landing series too. Although your friend might wish to skip that one because it is clearly made up.:facepalm:

No, my advice is just keep comms open. Hopefully this will blow over when they get sick of feeding off each other and crave their old sensible friends to talk bikes and Bury the imagined hachet.

[pritch]

your friend might wish to skip that one because it is clearly made up.:facepalm:


Excellent. And according to my watch there is a new episode of the Oxley Bom podcast out.

[Reckless]

Ok so wo the heck are we going to give our hard earned cash to this year??

MotoGP renew is 140 Euro or $246-00 NZD at least 1 can watch when I choose (normally 7am the morning after of the race from the previous night).
I will prob pay the MotoGP sub or extra for this convenience as I have so many net feeds on my phone and computer its very hard to avoid the result.

Are the tests on the 6th and 19th of Feb in Sepang going to be on the MotoGP subscription as they will be interesting this year with so many bike swaps?


Who are you guys going with to watch this year??

[BMWST?]

Ok so wo the heck are we going to give our hard earned cash to this year??

MotoGP renew is 140 Euro or $246-00 NZD at least 1 can watch when I choose (normally 7am the morning after of the race from the previous night).
I will prob pay the MotoGP sub or extra for this convenience as I have so many net feeds on my phone and computer its very hard to avoid the result.

Are the tests on the 6th and 19th of Feb in Sepang going to be on the MotoGP subscription as they will be interesting this year with so many bike swaps?


Who are you guys going with to watch this year??

have muddled by with sky sparl sport and tvnz last couple of years. I might plump for motogp as i have finally ditched sky

[F5 Dave]

Motogp, but I go to a mate who has it. I should really contribute some dollars but always buy the chippies and 3 of us take turns with the beer. Better watching it in a group I figure, but I only see big class races. Not that I have time to watch others anyways.

[Autech]

So TVNZ aren't going to continue with the contract?

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[onearmedbandit]

So TVNZ aren't going to continue with the contract?

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No news on it, and they would have to pay for it instead of picking up the left overs from Spark, which was a paid service.

[iYRe]

No news on it, and they would have to pay for it instead of picking up the left overs from Spark, which was a paid service.

Doesnt look TVNZ+ has motogp this year, it hasnt been confirmed as yet so I expect it is back to torrents for me :)

[Reckless]

Motogp, but I go to a mate who has it. I should really contribute some dollars but always buy the chippies and 3 of us take turns with the beer. Better watching it in a group I figure, but I only see big class races. Not that I have time to watch others anyways.

Same here me and my son used to go 1/2s, share the password and even watch on occasion on different Tv's but he went to the dark side with V8 supercars.
I also don't have time to follow any other class but MotoGP.

Ah well I guess it's pay the MotoGP man the $250.00. Prob pay last minute I gotta buy tyres for Classic festival and Motofest first :brick:

Thanks for the collective input team.

[F5 Dave]

My son has no real interest in bikes. Or cars for that matter, much beyond Lightning McQueen.:laugh:

[Autech]

I paid last year and looks like I will again, been sharing it with a few people around the place to get some more moneys worth. Hurts to pay that much though lol

[iYRe]

Interesting Crash interview with Suppo:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ClZpHW4CMOQ

[pritch]

Just saw an ad on Xitter for a Trackhouse MotoGP team. The bikes appear to be Aprilia. Trackhouse is the NASCAR team that gave SVG the winning car last year.

[F5 Dave]

I must say, I'm enjoying making my way (slowly) through the Oxley Bom motogp podcasts. Cheers again.

[onearmedbandit]

Just saw an ad on Xitter for a Trackhouse MotoGP team. The bikes appear to be Aprilia. Trackhouse is the NASCAR team that gave SVG the winning car last year.

Yeah that was announced end of last year when RNF exited.

[Grumph]

Whatever you think of the livery, the lower fork shrouds are a new one on me. First time I've seen a "downforce generating" piece on lower fork legs.
Looks part wing, part air guide onto the rad.
Two points occur : How much extra steering effort will it need at speed ? And given the front tyre overheating in the draft already seen, how long before it's cut off ? Looks to me like something developed in the wind tunnel but not yet track tested.

[Autech]

Any word on the NZ broadcaster for Motogp this year?

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[iYRe]

Not TVNZ+ - havent heard if Sky has it

[F5 Dave]

Whatever you think of the livery, the lower fork shrouds are a new one on me. First time I've seen a "downforce generating" piece on lower fork legs.
Looks part wing, part air guide onto the rad.
Two points occur : How much extra steering effort will it need at speed ? And given the front tyre overheating in the draft already seen, how long before it's cut off ? Looks to me like something developed in the wind tunnel but not yet track tested.
That could be a very shrewd observation. Are we seeing the development of Qualifying Aero? Perhaps to be removed for the race?

Good example of how to make an Italian bike ugly. It's hard, but if you try, well achievable.

[onearmedbandit]

Whatever you think of the livery, the lower fork shrouds are a new one on me. First time I've seen a "downforce generating" piece on lower fork legs.
Looks part wing, part air guide onto the rad.
Two points occur : How much extra steering effort will it need at speed ? And given the front tyre overheating in the draft already seen, how long before it's cut off ? Looks to me like something developed in the wind tunnel but not yet track tested.

Aprilia was running it last year too on the factory bikes at least.

[Grumph]

Thanks - I hadn't seen that. Interesting then that - afaik anyway - no-one else has copied it.

[onearmedbandit]

Ducati have shown the 2024 bike with a smaller version of it, whether they run it or not I guess we will have to wait to see.

[iYRe]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u2k9dNniyJk

[sugilite]

Aprilia was running it last year too on the factory bikes at least.

I think Aprillia better start paying some royalties to suzuki for that styling :crazy: A bloody teapot with a mustache and a even fatter arse!

https://moto.zombdrive.com/images1024_/suzuki-gsx-600-f-reduced-effect-1989-1.jpg

[diesel pig]

I think Aprillia better start paying some royalties to suzuki for that styling :crazy: A bloody teapot with a mustache and a even fatter arse!

https://moto.zombdrive.com/images1024_/suzuki-gsx-600-f-reduced-effect-1989-1.jpg

What's Aerodynamic and what look's cool is often not the same thing.

[jim.cox]

What's Aerodynamic and what look's cool is often not he same thing.

But sometimes it starts a trend...

https://raresportbikesforsale.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/20200802-1988-ducati-750-paso-left-front-1600x800.jpg

[Moise]

Not TVNZ+ - havent heard if Sky has itAnnouncements on broadcasting rights have been at the last minute before. I hope Sky get it, otherwise I'm not sure whether I'll subscribe. But M Marquez on a competitive bike should be worth watching.

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[iYRe]

I go here for mine: https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/

[Moise]

I go here for mine: https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/Thanks, I'll have a look. I have found websites that stream the races, but it can be a bit hit and miss.

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[BMWST?]

those pods on the fork leg seem to be completely agaist anything you would try to me

[Autech]

I messaged TVNZ+

Here's the response:

"Kia ora Jamie,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

According to our Programming team, the negotiation to secure MotoGP 2024 is still in the market, so please check our Sport schedule at a later date or follow us on Facebook for regular updates.

Best regards,
Bruce"

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[Moise]

I messaged TVNZ+

Here's the response:

"Kia ora Jamie,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

According to our Programming team, the negotiation to secure MotoGP 2024 is still in the market, so please check our Sport schedule at a later date or follow us on Facebook for regular updates.

Best regards,
Bruce"

Sent from my SM-G991B using TapatalkThanks for the update. They still have WRC, so hopefully will also retain MotoGP.

There was an interesting article in the Herald about how good free to air is for Cricket NZ. No sport is going to survive for long if no one watches it.

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[Reckless]

I messaged TVNZ+

Here's the response:

"Kia ora Jamie,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

According to our Programming team, the negotiation to secure MotoGP 2024 is still in the market, so please check our Sport schedule at a later date or follow us on Facebook for regular updates.

Best regards,
Bruce"

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I'm thinking motogp are leaving it as long as they can to get more subscribers a month could mean millions.
Anyone wanna have a go at sharing, seasons not far away now. Pm me.

[roogazza]

I messaged TVNZ+

Here's the response:

"Kia ora Jamie,

Thanks for getting in touch with us.

According to our Programming team, the negotiation to secure MotoGP 2024 is still in the market, so please check our Sport schedule at a later date or follow us on Facebook for regular updates.

Best regards,
Bruce"

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yeah mate same response for me ! Seems they leave everything to the last minute . They all seem to wait for the cheapest deal ?????? G xx

[Autech]

Fuckers. Ima hold out till the last minute to get the vid pass, happy to share with someone if need be.

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[Reckless]

Fuckers. Ima hold out till the last minute to get the vid pass, happy to share with someone if need be.

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[Reckless]

Copied off a thread. Looks like even if you already signed up for this year's video pass , people are Having to pay extra for live timing of the test and no live coverage.
That is a bloody rip that's for sure


And for those of us who've had videopass for years and get no live test coverage from Sepang, we've had to pay another $35.99AU just to follow live timing!! No live track action - not happy!

There is a lot of unhappy people out there about the cost and now this.

[pritch]

And for those of us who've had videopass for years and get no live test coverage from Sepang, we've had to pay another $35.99AU just to follow live timing!! No live track action - not happy![/I]


Guess I'll just wait for the Oxley Bom podcast and whoever else reports on the test.

[pritch]

https://www.motogp.com/en/news/2024/02/06/martin-lays-down-first-marker-of-2024-in-stunning-style/489104?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_content=10602_AR_Day1Report_en&utm_campaign=traffic

[iYRe]

I saw that, crash had a bit of a discussion on it, but the general consensus seemed to be that there was nothing to see here, it was all about testing and serious fast laps werent done by most of them

[Moise]

I can see why people are pissed off with the Sepang coverage. If you want anything in depth, then the only option is the incredibly boring After the Flag.

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[actungbaby]

https://www.youtube.com/live/1Qp1JWc2Uxw?si=r7C-ZfLMJiYhuWLL

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[Reckless]

Wow good score for all of Aprilia! (if they share data like Ducati)

Fresh from his foray into the Formula 1 Paddock, Trackhouse welcomes Davide Brivio back to the MotoGP™ World Championship as its team leader, bringing him straight into its rookie season campaign from the get-go.

[Moise]

Some interesting results, BUT it didn't rain for 3 days, so the track was very rubbered up by Day 3, and it is Sepang. Plus some teams were doing serious testing as opposed to setting fast times.

Acosta is quick...

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[iYRe]

MM was 7th fastest average 10 laps - di Giannantonio fastest - this they say is more accurately reflecting how they will go on race day. Acosta was 9th behind Binder


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF0EQy9XMAA2FBW.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/GF0EQy9XMAA2FBW?format=jpg&name=large
Average lap time during long runs – Day 3


di Giannantonio (Ducati) 1m 58.237s (over 10 laps)*
Martin (Ducati) 1m 58.390s (over 10 laps)
Bastianini (Ducati) 1m 58.437s (over 10 laps)
Bagnaia (Ducati) 1m 58.457s (over 10 laps)
A. Espargaro (Aprilia) 1m 58.499s (over 9 laps)
Vinales (Aprilia) 1m 58.545s (over 9 laps)*
M. Marquez (Ducati) 1m 58.556s (over 10 laps)*

* Set late in the afternoon, cooler temps.

Fabio Di Giannantonio: “If the race was tomorrow, I could be not so bad…” | MotoGP | Crash (https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1044113/1/fabio-di-giannantonio-if-race-was-tomorrow-i-could-be-not-so-bad)

One of the Duc bosses said MM is just getting used to the bike, he's still not really pushing - not really pushing and .3 sec off fastest pace for 10 laps.

[iYRe]

354347

Dont give MM any help, even if you're his brother hehe

[F5 Dave]

Especially if he's your brother.

First rule in GPs.
Always beat your team mate.

[iYRe]

Especially if he's your brother.

First rule in GPs.
Always beat your team mate.

I doubt MM will take any prisoners, even his brother - he hasnt before lol

[Moise]

From Reddit. The first 10 riders are close.https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20240209/0a214eeef7fa3010d8fbe4280401a834.jpg

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[Reckless]

Simon could be right I respect his intuition.
Especially if he notes Marquez losing time in the last corner, the electronics will tell them where he really is in the other sectors.

Good read

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1044169/1/marc-marquez-sandbagging-sepang-huge-braking-prediction-made?fbclid=IwAR0mC5vt67sQNmXPDUz20QgZCtS_FUP5syUI xb8G2Iet1yeXh7AHR-uDVd4#Echobox=1707741722

[iYRe]

MM was P4 today.. crashed for the first time.

Saw this on Auckland Motorcycle Clubs FB:

### An evening with Simon Crafar ###Ex motorcycle racer, MotoGP Pitlane Reporter, Motovudu creator/instructor
Monday 26 Feb, 2024, at 7:00pm
At the Northern Sports Car Club / AMCC clubrooms.
Mt Richmond Domain, 1110 Great South Road, Otahuhu, Auckland.
The bar will be open.
Here for MotoFest, Simon has kindly offered to come and talk about his distinguished career, and engage in some informal Q&A.
Don't miss this unique opportunity ...
Entry is free - however a donation would be appreciated.
Simon and his wife have started an Association / Charity called "Riders For Dogs".
This is a non-profit, thru which Simon looks to do something for a local dog support charity in as many countries as possible.
So 100% of your donation will go to a local NZ dog support charity.
See you there ....

[Moise]

MM was P4 today.. crashed for the first time.

Saw this on Auckland Motorcycle Clubs FB:

Thanks for the info on Simon Crafar.

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[roogazza]

Hey, I'm happy, flicking thru SKY Sport last night late I saw that WSB is baack this weekend !

First round Aussie, got that set to be copied...... Be nice if Motogp follows... :wari::corn:

[pritch]

Got a rude shock this morning. An email from Dorna advising that I'll be paying their sub by auto renewal on 27/2/24. A bad start to the day. I don't like auto renewals. The instructions on how to cancel an auto renewal are in the FAQs and that chore is done now. It's about $245 and that's above my impulse spend limit.

[Moise]

Got a rude shock this morning. An email from Dorna advising that I'll be paying their sub by auto renewal on 27/2/24. A bad start to the day. I don't like auto renewals. The instructions on how to cancel an auto renewal are in the FAQs and that chore is done now. It's about $245 and that's above my impulse spend limit.I've just seen the same message. Still no news on whether we will get it from TVNZ or Sky?

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[Reckless]

Thank you for the reminder.
I just cancelled my auto renew so I can decide at the latest time.

Copied off the site if you need it


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- Click "View Details" under your current subscription, and use the "Disable Automatic Renewal" button to cancel.
You may use the "Enable Automatic Renewal" button at any moment should you change your mind, thus allowing the automatic renewal to take place at its due date.
This applies for all Season VideoPass purchased from our website. For other types of subscriptions purchased in the different app stores, please check the automatic renewal status in your profile in the stores themselves.

[Autech]

Got a rude shock this morning. An email from Dorna advising that I'll be paying their sub by auto renewal on 27/2/24. A bad start to the day. I don't like auto renewals. The instructions on how to cancel an auto renewal are in the FAQs and that chore is done now. It's about $245 and that's above my impulse spend limit.

They pulled a shifty one a few years back, offered all the off season stuff for $1 and the less aware of us hit go without seeing the opt out auto renewal. Got a call from wife asking WTF was this charge on our account just before the season started.

I wrote them a very pissed off letter and advised how such things are in a bit of a legal grey area in the developed world and that they best be fucking giving me a refund and got one.

Any news on TVNZ+?

[roogazza]

Hey, I'm happy, flicking thru SKY Sport last night late I saw that WSB is baack this weekend !

First round Aussie, got that set to be copied...... Be nice if Motogp follows... :wari::corn:

I haven't checked but I don't want to see fucking Pit Stops put into the WSB Races.
That'll be the last straw for grumpy grandad !!!!
Hoping that The P.I. Track re seal is the reason ... I don't like Team sports or Endurance races at all !!!!!!
Now where's my coffee ! lol.

[Moise]

The MotoGP website still shows TVNZ as the broadcaster, but still nothing on TVNZ+. We'll know soon...

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[iYRe]

Davide Tardozzi Ducati: “if Pecco Bagnaia wins tҺe tҺird title by beating Marc Marquez witҺ tҺe Ducati, Һe will reacҺ Olympus, so it is a cҺallenge to taƙe up”

Which I think is a crock o shit. If PB does NOT win and MM does PB is a loser. He's ridden the Duc for a few years, is WC on it, and its faster and has the latest tech. If MM is even in the race for the championship it will be a miracle, the suggestion that he might even be in the top 2 just shows what respect he has.

I have a feeling the top 4 will be Martin, Pecco, Enea, and MM. Cameos from Binder and Vinales. I cant help but think though that MM will push the Ducati further than the others, and that might force them to ride outside their normal zone, and that might make things interesting. I'm expecting a few offs, and I dont necessarily think it will be MM who crashes

[BMWST?]

I haven't checked but I don't want to see fucking Pit Stops put into the WSB Races.
That'll be the last straw for grumpy grandad !!!!
Hoping that The P.I. Track re seal is the reason ... I don't like Team sports or Endurance races at all !!!!!!
Now where's my coffee ! lol.
Agree. Pit stops take away the strategy side of the race.People dont always like it but tyre management(and machine management) is part of racing So Alvaro is hit with two empediments,the weight thing and the tyre pit stops. The pit stops must be a mimimum of 1 minute so they have taken away any opportunity for a good pit stop to be able to win a place. It sounds like its now a thing

[actungbaby]

The MotoGP website still shows TVNZ as the broadcaster, but still nothing on TVNZ+. We'll know soon...

Sent from my SM-S906E using TapatalkWas watching sky last night
Sworn I seen qatar and March
Flash up on screen between
Adds .might been on the turps
Lol .or wishfull thinking .

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[Moise]

Was watching sky last night
Sworn I seen qatar and March
Flash up on screen between
Adds .might been on the turps
Lol .or wishfull thinking .

Sent from my CPH1941 using TapatalkAs of 23 Feb Sky was still saying No.

Spark had the rights until 2024 so if it's anywhere, it will probably be on TVNZ+.

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[actungbaby]

Gee I hope so liberty the backers of f1 are going to buy
Dorna .so least done good
Job in f1 .be more money
Promote motogp.

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[sugilite]

Gee I hope so liberty the backers of f1 are going to buy
Dorna .so least done good
Job in f1 .be more money
Promote motogp.

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I would like to agree mate, but every car orientated organization that I can remember taking over promotional rights for motorcycle racing have run it into the ground. Case in point, the AMA series never made a full recovery when they got taken over by nascar and then resold later.

[Grumph]

Gee I hope so liberty the backers of f1 are going to buy
Dorna .so least done good
Job in f1 .be more money
Promote motogp.

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I seriously hope NOT. Liberty have basically milked F1 for every dollar they can.
They've turned it into a rubbish spectacle.
And all the F1 style things Dorna have tried - sprint races for one - have made MotoGP worse.

[iYRe]

top speeds at Qatar:

#31 - KTM/GasGas - 351.7kmh
#93 - Ducati - 351.7kmh
#20 - Yamahahaha - 349.5kmh
#36 - Honda - 348.3kmh

Interesting eh?

[Ruahine]

The MotoGP website still shows TVNZ as the broadcaster, but still nothing on TVNZ+. We'll know soon...

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It no longer lists TVNZ so I suspect they no longer have the rights.

[onearmedbandit]

It no longer lists TVNZ so I suspect they no longer have the rights.

Yeah, I heard a couple days ago that TVNZ have confirmed they are not broadcasting it.

[Moise]

Yeah, I heard a couple days ago that TVNZ have confirmed they are not broadcasting it.In other words, Dorna wanted more than TVNZ were willing to pay. Looks like I'll have to find a free streaming feed unless Sky pick it up at the last minute.

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[iYRe]

In other words, Dorna wanted more than TVNZ were willing to pay. Looks like I'll have to find a free streaming feed unless Sky pick it up at the last minute.

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This is my go to https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/

[Moise]

This is my go to https://www.reddit.com/r/MotorsportsReplays/[emoji1303]

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[Reckless]

Looks like 3 now has it.

I'm at at a trackday at hampton so can't read it proper. Does live streaming mean you can watch anytime off the 3now site or do you have to watch live and it's gone

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/motorsport-threenow-adds-2024-motogp-championship-to-live-streaming-offering.html?fbclid=IwAR1oqBUpNptA2ZVn_lfXUKyMORJ rcvpVDrp2yqghSWgckl0QzrKedwxEanU

[Ruahine]

Looks like 3 now has it.

I'm at at a trackday at hampton so can't read it proper. Does live streaming mean you can watch anytime off the 3now site or do you have to watch live and it's gone

https://www.newshub.co.nz/home/sport/2024/03/motorsport-threenow-adds-2024-motogp-championship-to-live-streaming-offering.html?fbclid=IwAR1oqBUpNptA2ZVn_lfXUKyMORJ rcvpVDrp2yqghSWgckl0QzrKedwxEanU

Surely it will be on demand as well as live-streamed.

Great news that it is free-to-air. I guess they saved money by scrapping the news :).

[Moise]

I watched WSBK at Phillip Island during the week. The second race was good - makes you realise how much the aero and ride height stuff in MotoGP has affected the racing. I can't imagine anyone in MotoGP overtaking on the outside at Lukey Heights!

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[BMWST?]

I watched WSBK at Phillip Island during the week. The second race was good - makes you realise how much the aero and ride height stuff in MotoGP has affected the racing. I can't imagine anyone in MotoGP overtaking on the outside at Lukey Heights!

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the difference in speed between them around there was amazing!

[roogazza]

Is that from the second race where Lowes rides around the outside of Bautista ?????

Bautista's tyre was finished, but Lowes was fast, Riba is his manager now !

Rea must be pondering his move to Yamaha ????/ :shit:

[BMWST?]

Is that from the second race where Lowes rides around the outside of Bautista ?????

Bautista's tyre was finished, but Lowes was fast, Riba is his manager now !

Rea must be pondering his move to Yamaha ????/ :shit:

yes thats the one

[Moise]

The new track surface probably helped also. I hope Michelin sort out tyres for MotoGP to avoid the need for pit stops.

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[actungbaby]

I would like to agree mate, but every car orientated organization that I can remember taking over promotional rights for motorcycle racing have run it into the ground. Case in point, the AMA series never made a full recovery when they got taken over by nascar and then resold later.Thanks mate .yes I kinda think the same .where different thinking.car people and bikes.
But woohoo motogp on three plus live just announced.
So that's relief .

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[actungbaby]

In other words, Dorna wanted more than TVNZ were willing to pay. Looks like I'll have to find a free streaming feed unless Sky pick it up at the last minute.

Sent from my SM-S906E using TapatalkIt's on 3 plus which werid seeing as they seem be in free fall.
But starting next week free to air.i was hooving over motogp app myself .but was to rich for me was just going miss out.

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[Reckless]

I reckon someone has done a calculation on at what time the TV rights profit overtakes waiting for people to sign up.
It is probably now that the die hard subscribers have already signed and us people on the edge don't make a big difference to the profit ratio.
There will be spreadsheets galore on this, going back years, it is predictable I'd bet.
Mind you this will be the first year I haven't subscribed.

I reckon we are going to go through this every year.

ONLY question is what will the 3now service be like??????

[Ruahine]

ONLY question is what will the 3now service be like??????

The CRC motorsport Facebook feed has confirmed that Threenow will only livestream the coverage - it won't be on demand, which makes it fairly useless for most races/sessions. However, they did say they are working on making on demand available at some point.

[Moise]

Here is the full FB post, which was a reply to the same question we're all asking. Fair enough, that is a difficult situation.

"It is something being worked on, there are some logistical issues to work through, particularly given the news earlier this week around the shutting down of NewsHub which also impacts most of the other staff at TV3 in Auckland - something that has not been reported by most news outlets. Will get it resolved as soon as possible."

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[actungbaby]

I reckon someone has done a calculation on at what time the TV rights profit overtakes waiting for people to sign up.
It is probably now that the die hard subscribers have already signed and us people on the edge don't make a big difference to the profit ratio.
There will be spreadsheets galore on this, going back years, it is predictable I'd bet.
Mind you this will be the first year I haven't subscribed.

I reckon we are going to go through this every year.

ONLY question is what will the 3now service be like??????It really seems that way doesn't it .same thing as when bring out
New device .know percentage buy it at top dollor.they got have it.am past that know .

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[pritch]

Well here we are at race week and I'm not subscribed. My current plan is to wait until Tuesday (pension day) but I may weaken. A glass or two of wine Saturday night could cause me to shake the dust off the bank card.

[actungbaby]

Well here we are at race week and I'm not subscribed. My current plan is to wait until Tuesday (pension day) but I may weaken. A glass or two of wine Saturday night could cause me to shake the dust off the bank card.Go on mate ur enjoy it got have few treats .but it is on 3 plus .
But imagine ur get more on
Motogp .com


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[Moise]

I will watch the first races on 3 and see how it goes. If this season turns into a rerun of Bagnaia vs Martin, I may lose interest quite quickly.

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[Reckless]

Getting concerned :sweatdrop 3 days to go and not one short cut/link, New Category or advertisement On the ThreeNow site - Seems a bit late FFS

I snipped these for myself, Qatar Daily Schedules so thought I'd share for you guys - Attached

My Picks to watch Our time

6am Sat morning = Practice
5am Sun Morning = Sprint
6am Monday Morning = Race

Please someone make sure I am correct :innocent:

Might just have to miss Qually 12:40am to 1:20am Sunday Morning :( and the rider conferences bugger it :bye:
Not sure if I can do this 3now thing. Might have to subscribe I'll see how it goes. On demand soon please 3now :yes:

To much stress Bloody hate not knowing, get your shit together 3now :angry2:

[jato]

we are going to see how 3 now goes for the first couple and possibly sign up to the videopass again for the usa round mid april ... take away binder and martin (sorry jack- its all over now) and probably bail on the lot, use the $260 in the workshop...

[BMWST?]

its hard to beleive that it wont be available to stream later. I think I am gonna go motogp maybe just race by race to see what you guys make of 3 now

[iYRe]

So, Crash Net prediction is MM for the sprint win, and Pecco for race win.
Expecting MM to win in the USA, then its anyone's guess lol

I dont think MM will win the sprint, but I suspect he will podium. What interests me is when he starts pushing and Pecco and Jorge try to keep up, will they be able to wrangle their Duc's like him? I expect if Binder is up there he'd be able to ride with MM - you know what I mean?

[Moise]

I read the Mat Oxley interview with Jorge Martin. Well worth a read. He doesn't like having to share his data with the other Duc riders! I'm sure MM finds it useful.

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[iYRe]

I read the Mat Oxley interview with Jorge Martin. Well worth a read. He doesn't like having to share his data with the other Duc riders! I'm sure MM finds it useful.

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Consider that for the last 10 yrs or so MM has been the one who's data has been studied and been the benchmark, he hasnt had the luxury of seeing someone else who is going faster.. I am sure he's like a sponge.

[actungbaby]

I know it's not motogp
But you listen ur learn so much.
https://youtu.be/jgC-BUzgn38?si=BmhZ-NWcK0Y11RTJ

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[F5 Dave]

I read the Mat Oxley interview with Jorge Martin. Well worth a read. He doesn't like having to share his data with the other Duc riders! I'm sure MM finds it useful.

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I listened to Oxley interview with Jorge last night by coincidence. It's on Oxley Bom podcast that Pritch suggested a while back. Free but im thinking of supporting them as great resource.

[Warr]

Free Viewing on TV3 🤔

What does it mean. There is no Programming slots advertised on TV3 or TV3+ channels and no MotoGP content in the streaming platform 😢

[iYRe]

Its on the 3Now app from what I understand, not TV3 itself.

[Reckless]

Its on the 3Now app from what I understand, not TV3 itself.

ThreeNow don't make it easy it's not in the sport section as you would expect.
You have to scroll through "watch live" till you find it

[iYRe]

Interesting chat here about predictions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I6JF_7lv7jg

I'm not a racer, so i'd be interested in some expert opinion on how the difference in tyres will affect grip. M3/2 are using Pirelli and MGP on Michelin still. These guys suggest it might have an effect on track grip... will it? If so, much or not?

[Black Knight]

Go to the LIVE section there you will find the races-Sadly there is no On Demand so only for night owls

[F5 Dave]

No wurries, drag out the ol' vcr. Pretty sure I saw it under the house. Or was that the dvd?
How long ago was that? And where would I plug it in? :blink:

[Black Knight]

Oops my mistake,I did not realise others had posted-I was having a cuppa and scanned THREE NOW on the TV and it popped up-In my excitment I rushed to post the info

[Warr]

Oops my mistake,I did not realise others had posted-I was having a cuppa and scanned THREE NOW on the TV and it popped up-In my excitment I rushed to post the info
So it is ONLY available streaming Live on Three Now.
Not on any free-to-air channel.
Makes it somewhat difficult to record 😕

[Grumph]

I see the minimum tyre pressure has been dropped - by .08Bar. But the length of time required to be above it has been increased....
The penalties have changed too. No disqualification - 8 sec time penalty for sprints and 16 sec for full GP's.

The authorities taketh away with one hand - and smite the unwary round the lug'ole with the other.

[Moise]

I see the minimum tyre pressure has been dropped - by .08Bar. But the length of time required to be above it has been increased....
The penalties have changed too. No disqualification - 8 sec time penalty for sprints and 16 sec for full GP's.

The authorities taketh away with one hand - and smite the unwary round the lug'ole with the other.So 26 instead of 27 psi, but for 60% of the race. I assume this is just for the slicks, not wets?

It is worth remembering that this was set by Michelin for safety reasons. I understand Michelin has a new front ready to go, but the teams have been reluctant to change because of the extensive changes required.

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[actungbaby]

Go to the LIVE section there you will find the races-Sadly there is no On Demand so only for night owlsThanks I been trying find it
Omg going be tired then .

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[actungbaby]

So it is ONLY available streaming Live on Three Now.
Not on any free-to-air channel.
Makes it somewhat difficult to record [emoji53]Am thinking on computer u can record just about anything
Unless it's protected somehow
Capture card .I have try work it out .

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[iYRe]

Am thinking on computer u can record just about anything
Unless it's protected somehow
Capture card .I have try work it out .

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There are plenty of options, you could use OBS to screencap to a file. The issue will be keeping the app/site running while you're sleeping.
I'd just download it from that motorsports replays site on reddit.

[Moise]

We'll, the feed worked. The good news / bad news is that it's the UK commentary. And wet???

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[pritch]

MM being fastest in tricky conditions on day 1 is not really what you could call a surprise. Acosta being third fastest might be. His Moto3 career kicked off with a second then three wins though so...

[Moise]

MM being fastest in tricky conditions on day 1 is not really what you could call a surprise. Acosta being third fastest might be. His Moto3 career kicked off with a second then three wins though so...All 4 KTM's were in the top 5, and many of the riders just did a few laps as it wasn't a timed session. This is now on Saturday morning local time.

Acosta is clearly a talent though.

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[BMWST?]

All 4 KTM's were in the top 5, and many of the riders just did a few laps as it wasn't a timed session. This is now on Saturday morning local time.

Acosta is clearly a talent though.

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MM said his save(acosta) in turn one "was a good one" and he is a very talented rider. I might try 3 now .i am able to record of my older panasonic smart tv but i think its only for a relatively short lead time or a relatively short recording time,might just have to try to catch moto gp only

[actungbaby]

There are plenty of options, you could use OBS to screencap to a file. The issue will be keeping the app/site running while you're sleeping.
I'd just download it from that motorsports replays site on reddit.Yes thanks I did watched second practice as live stream


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[Moise]

Double post.

[Moise]

Not good times to watch live last night, so I used the Reddit link. Not perfect, but good enough.

I see 3 now also has NASCAR, so hopefully they will sort out streaming soon as that probably will have a decent audience now that SVG has gone there.

Also 3 Kiwis in Indycar this year!



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[Autech]

I set the alarm for 5am, watched the sprint then dozed off again. Not too bad! I have the benefit of being self employed so even if I have to watch them all live I'll engineer a slow Monday morning for myself.

Good racing! KTMs looking very good

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[jato]

Likewise ... although Jack's KTM likes to fall back down through the pack still.
up early tomorrow morning - there are some interesting scenarios looming, esp with Binder's obvious determination...

[Autech]

Its only his KTM for the rest of the season I think...

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[Warr]

I set the alarm for 5am, watched the sprint then dozed off again. Not too bad! I have the benefit of being self employed so even if I have to watch them all live I'll engineer a slow Monday morning for myself.

Good racing! KTMs looking very good

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Likewise .. the coverage is good but not the GP commentary as its a feed from TNT in UK ?? I think.
Still sux that TV3 don't have it On Demand so you can watch at a more social time.
The only Redit downloads I found for Friday's practice were low resolution quality.
... But compared to spending the Dorma subscription.. I'll put up with some stuffing around. ��

Did you catch the bizarre off ... Fabio di Giannantonio suffered a strange accident on lap 3, falling off the side of his Ducati and was lucky not to be hit by following bikes

[Zarkov]

I knew 3's "coverage" would be bad, but never expected it it be as bad as this.

They jump in and pick up MotGP, with no idea what they're doing and make it unwatchable.

Should have known better after seeing their SailGP shitfest.

They should stick to rubbish broadcast tv and hopefully go broke.

Sooner the better.

[SaferRides]

I watched the sprint this evening using one of the Reddit links. Worked well, except I could not cast it from my phone so thought I would try it on the laptop with the new 4k monitor. Being HD it didn't look great, but I was able to cast to the TV which looked fine. I see there is a Magnet link for a 4k download, so I might try that to watch the race.

All good so far, thanks for the Reddit link iYRe.

[iYRe]

I watched the sprint this evening using one of the Reddit links. Worked well, except I could not cast it from my phone so thought I would try it on the laptop with the new 4k monitor. Being HD it didn't look great, but I was able to cast to the TV which looked fine. I see there is a Magnet link for a 4k download, so I might try that to watch the race.

All good so far, thanks for the Reddit link iYRe.

All good, you can download the 4k torrent from there.

Acosta needs to learn about tires, once he has that down he will be unstoppable.

[Autech]

I watched both races live, the coverage was as normal and the BT commentary isn't bad, but not having Crafar ruins it a bit. They still talk wayyy too much regardless.

Good races so far, Brad is looking dangerous. I'd love to know how Peco would do without access to everyone elses data

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[SaferRides]

I watched both races live, the coverage was as normal and the BT commentary isn't bad, but not having Crafar ruins it a bit. They still talk wayyy too much regardless.

Good races so far, Brad is looking dangerous. I'd love to know how Peco would do without access to everyone elses data

Sent from my SM-G991B using TapatalkI prefer the more measured TNT (new name this season) commentary, but do miss Simon Crafar.

The stream I chose on Reddit worked perfectly for both races. I will try a 4k download though as it will be interesting to see how MotoGP looks. Watching sport in 4k while in the UK a few months ago was great.

It was a pretty boring race apart from Acosta overtaking almost at will until his tyres went off. Watching Marc riding smoothly just doesn't seem right, but finishing both races with no crashes over the 3 days must be a novelty for him. Also, Lusail is definitely not one of his favourite tracks.

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[BMWST?]

Near the end I thought MM was going to catch JM but the whole race JM just put metres on him exiting turn 16 .MM said that he was losing on the corner exits. I guess he relearning how to ride a bike that has got rear grip.
As acosta was overtaking at will the commenttrs were going ga ga .Simon bought up the idea that he was burning up his tyres .They calmed down a bit after that.

[SaferRides]

From GP One: https://m.gpone.com/en/2024/03/11/motogp/pedro-acosta-overtaking-marc-was-like-losing-your-virginity.html


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[pritch]

For anyone who has missed it thus far, the latest Oxley Bom MotoGP Podcast discusses the tyre problem. It isn't actually a tyre problem, it's a bike problem. It's ruining the races, and it's with us at least until 2027?

[SaferRides]

For anyone who has missed it thus far, the latest Oxley Bom MotoGP Podcast discusses the tyre problem. It isn't actually a tyre problem, it's a bike problem. It's ruining the races, and it's with us at least until 2027?MotoGP has a big problem, which could have been nipped in the bud years ago by appropriate rules on aero and ride height devices. Portimao should be better, but after the carnage last year, there must be questions about whether the track is safe for the current MotoGP bikes.

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[Reckless]

Good sprint and race.
That Pecco is so bloody cool and calculated after stuffing up the Sprint he goes and gives them all a lesson in the race.
I think Pecco was managing, Brad had the KTM at its limit, JM just not quite fast enough on Sunday once Pecco got his shit together.
I wish Miller would get the hang of it for us down under supporters.

I'd be watching MM.
I bet he is bloody glad he went to Ducati even on the second-tier bike. First Honda home was 15th sprint and 12th in the race.
He admits he's still learning and he managed to turn the speed down when his front was fried. Different attitude from him.
I think he might give them a fright in races to come.

Acosta well what can you say first race with that showing, he is well smart enough to be encouraged and learn from that weekend.

Shame about Aleix haven't seen anything on why?

Next few races will tell more but the racing is close enough to be good.

Jerex Next and on at 3 and 4am might have to try and get my head around how to work Reddit torrents or hope 3now gets on demand????????

[Reckless]

Oh question
I joined up to Reddit found Motorsport replays. Can see the links in the feed but can't remember how to download the torrents? :baby: Everyone I click on wants to sign me up for something or other?

You first need a torrent downloader like Bit torrent or U torrent correct? which do you guys use?
Can anyone give a quick bullet point lesson please save me the trial and error :brick:

Cheers ;)

[iYRe]

Oh question
I joined up to Reddit found Motorsport replays. Can see the links in the feed but can't remember how to download the torrents? :baby: Everyone I click on wants to sign me up for something or other?

You first need a torrent downloader like Bit torrent or U torrent correct? which do you guys use?
Can anyone give a quick bullet point lesson please save me the trial and error :brick:

Cheers ;)

Transmission is what I use. I use the ones from motomundo if I cant get ones from smcgill1969 (you can find them on torrentgalaxy.net). His are the best quality.

[sugilite]

Oh question
I joined up to Reddit found Motorsport replays. Can see the links in the feed but can't remember how to download the torrents? :baby: Everyone I click on wants to sign me up for something or other?

You first need a torrent downloader like Bit torrent or U torrent correct? which do you guys use?
Can anyone give a quick bullet point lesson please save me the trial and error :brick:

Cheers ;)

I use utorrent as the client, never had issues.
I get my torrents from Lime torrents. They seem to have them up first.
Use the link below to search and then click on the added tab once to show the latest. Pick the quality and click the little arrow on the left of the torrent and away it goes. Oh, usually they have practice and the sprint races loaded in the one torrent, deselect what you do not want to download. Same goes for the race one, which has moto3, 2 and motogp bundled in the same torrent. Hope this makes sense....
https://www.limetorrents.lol/search/all/motogp/

[SaferRides]

Oh question
I joined up to Reddit found Motorsport replays. Can see the links in the feed but can't remember how to download the torrents? :baby: Everyone I click on wants to sign me up for something or other?

You first need a torrent downloader like Bit torrent or U torrent correct? which do you guys use?
Can anyone give a quick bullet point lesson please save me the trial and error :brick:

Cheers ;)You don't need to use torrents. There are posts from someone with IPTV in his name which have links for the races, etc. Click on the link and it takes you to a streaming site. The quality appeared just as good as videopass.

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[iYRe]

You don't need to use torrents. There are posts from someone with IPTV in his name which have links for the races, etc. Click on the link and it takes you to a streaming site. The quality appeared just as good as videopass.

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Just becareful with those IPTV links, the powers that be are cracking down on them as they are fairly easy to track people down from

[roogazza]

So it looks like Ch3 will have highlights of Motogp Sundays (like last year).
A week after the event but thats ok for me.

I checked this arvo , Sunday at 4.50pm till about 6pm...

That's enough for me and SKY have WSB . :cool:

[Reckless]

Thanks all :) that was easy and very very quick.
Copy the reddit link to u torrent
download directly to external hard drive
about 8-10 minutes for moto2,3 and MotoGP full races
Take the External drive, plug it into the USB on the tv and off we go.

OK so last question before I have get up in the middle of the night.
If the race is on a 3am Nz time, when can we expect a torrent up?

Cheers all ;)

[onearmedbandit]

OK so last question before I have get up in the middle of the night.
If the race is on a 3am Nz time, when can we expect a torrent up?

Cheers all ;)

Some will have them uploaded within minutes of the recording finishing.

[SaferRides]

Thanks all :) that was easy and very very quick.
Copy the reddit link to u torrent
download directly to external hard drive
about 8-10 minutes for moto2,3 and MotoGP full races
Take the External drive, plug it into the USB on the tv and off we go.

OK so last question before I have get up in the middle of the night.
If the race is on a 3am Nz time, when can we expect a torrent up?

Cheers all ;)That is so much faster than torrents used to be, but it's been quite a few years since I last used Pirate Bay!

It is even easier with a Chromecast or similar. I have the original type and can cast to it from all of my devices, including the iPad. The new ones with a remote are about $60.

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[F5 Dave]

From GP One: https://m.gpone.com/en/2024/03/11/motogp/pedro-acosta-overtaking-marc-was-like-losing-your-virginity.html


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So yeah he says it was much harder overtaking in the Sprint (where everyone was going much faster instead of holding that last bit back).

It still just seems odd that the race is so much about restraint to save the tyres. But it's been like that for years, heavy bikes with too much power.

[SaferRides]

So yeah he says it was much harder overtaking in the Sprint (where everyone was going much faster instead of holding that last bit back).

It still just seems odd that the race is so much about restraint to save the tyres. But it's been like that for years, heavy bikes with too much power.And the track has been resurfaced. It could be the same at Phillip Island this year - the superbikes had a compulsory pitstop to change tyres.

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[Reckless]

I might get to like that Acosta he doesn't seem full of himself and has "personality" on and off the track :headbang::cool:

[pritch]

But it's been like that for years, heavy bikes with too much power.

That's not the problem according to Oxley Bom. It's the aero, the following bike is shielded from air flow and the front tyre quickly starts to overheat. We used to see a following bike try to pressure another rider into a mistake. They can't really do that now. They can only follow briefly.

[roogazza]

It still just seems odd that the race is so much about restraint to save the tyres. But it's been like that for years, heavy bikes with too much power.

Yep ,for me when they started pacing themselves to save the tyres, I began to lose interest !

If Dorna start having pitstops like F1 ,I'm out completely !
It was bad enough at P.I. with the first round of WSB......

[F5 Dave]

That's not the problem according to Oxley Bom. It's the aero, the following bike is shielded from air flow and the front tyre quickly starts to overheat. We used to see a following bike try to pressure another rider into a mistake. They can't really do that now. They can only follow briefly.
Only thing I've joined paying to hear. I hate auto CC payments buy have made an exception.

Aero overheats fronts. Excess power will kill rears. I have a plan (groan. It's predictable coming from the quarter): reduce the power by halving the capacity. Reduce weight by getting rid of complicated cam, valves whatnot. Bio fuel.

Spec ECU and tyres ok. 2 strokes with injection and modern TC would be awesome. Allowing a bit more anti wheelie and heavily curtailing aero and devices.

Heck, that old bollocks about "oh we don't sell 2 strokes" - Yeah, well I don't see many V4 Hondas or KTMs, and Aprilia V41100 is the same totally dissimilar for last 10 (20?) Years. R1 is dissimilar and discontinuing.

B-ring-ding-ding:banana:

[iYRe]

Interesting quote from MM:

"A rock-solid weekend. I didn't do anything crazy from Friday to Sunday. Today there was an improvement in that my start worked better. We worked intensively on it with the team yesterday. If you get off to a good start, things will be much easier in the race.It was also announced yesterday that I would have to pay equal attention to the front and rear tires. My driving style is still to blame. I still have to learn more on the Ducati. Portimão should be a good indicator. I was able to test both in Sepang and here, which of course helps enormously. In Portugal I'm starting from scratch. What makes me optimistic: I'm learning step by step. A tenth of a second here, a tenth of a second there. One is world champion, the other is second. They were already the fastest riders with the Ducati last year. No, I'm happy with my material and the team. You don't know my style in the race yet, so we took the safe route when it came to tire pressure in order to avoid a penalty for the minimum pressure at all costs.
In the last ten laps I started to attack something. But in the last two laps I took off the pressure because I felt I was closer to a crash than a podium. I'd rather give up a few points and try again in Portimão."

https://www.speedweek.com/motogp/news/219964/Marc-Marquez-(DucatiP4)-Crash-naeher-als-Podium.html (its in german)

[SaferRides]

Acosta and M Marquez may be the only reasons to watch MotoGP this season. The UK commentators were comparing Bagnaia to Lorenzo after the race - no thanks!

The current riders may be the most talented for a while, but some them either can't ride the current bikes or are on Jap bikes and have no chance.

I certainly wouldn't pay €140 to watch MotoGP.

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[Reckless]

Acosta and M Marquez may be the only reason to watch MotoGP this season. The UK commentators were comparing Bagnaia to Lorenzo after the race - no thanks!

The current riders may be the most talented for a while, but some them either can't ride the current bikes or are on Jap bikes and have no chance.

I certainly wouldn't pay €140 to watch MotoGP.

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I don't mind watching Bagnia.
Maybe you have to be a racer to know the tension, when you hear someone's up your arse and you don't know where or when they are going to have a go.
Its fucking terrible: do I attack this corner or defend, is he faster here or am I, the straight is after this next corner if I take it wide, I'll have speed, but he can block pass.
iIt's a mind fuck for sure, I tell you it is much less stressful to be the hunter.
Secondly faster rider can drag another second or two out of someone following so to get a gap is really skillful.

For example
I'm on a post classic 150HP - 190kg FZR normally in race group at a trackday, if the trackday guys are there with their pocket rockets I am generally OK.
But if the F1 teams turn up I have to worry about the riders and bikes which have 50+HP more, 50 kilos lighter and 10 secs faster, bearing down on me.
Motofest trackday at Hampton I decided to go a group down "green group". I tell you it is a shit load more fun being one of the quicker bikes in the group.


Lets not call what Bagnia does boring he is bloody brilliant to be where he was Saturday and to step up with the way he raced on Sunday.

[Autech]

Acosta and M Marquez may be the only reasons to watch MotoGP this season. The UK commentators were comparing Bagnaia to Lorenzo after the race - no thanks!

The current riders may be the most talented for a while, but some them either can't ride the current bikes or are on Jap bikes and have no chance.

I certainly wouldn't pay €140 to watch MotoGP.

Sent from my SM-S906E using TapatalkDafug you smoking? The field is packed full of talented riders.

Peco is pure class, he won in moto3 on a bike that no one else could even get near the front on. He's very calculated, I'd not call him a Lorenzo, more a Dovi but actually fast (sorry Dovi fanbois).

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[SaferRides]

Dafug you smoking? The field is packed full of talented riders.

Peco is pure class, he won in moto3 on a bike that no one else could even get near the front on. He's very calculated, I'd not call him a Lorenzo, more a Dovi but actually fast (sorry Dovi fanbois).

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??? I said that the current riders are the most talented for a while.

I agree about Bagnaia, I remember the race at Aragon a few years ago when Marquez couldn't get past him, and he took some chances getting to the front at Lusail. What I was trying to say is that he is not another Lorenzo as suggested by the commentators. It is certainly not his fault that the racing has become what it is at present.

[F5 Dave]

That's not the problem according to Oxley Bom. It's the aero, the following bike is shielded from air flow and the front tyre quickly starts to overheat. We used to see a following bike try to pressure another rider into a mistake. They can't really do that now. They can only follow briefly.
Actually, take 2. Listened to the bonus issue with Peter explaining Qarar track and I think he gives a little weight to my understanding.

[Autech]

??? I said that the current riders are the most talented for a while.

I agree about Bagnaia, I remember the race at Aragon a few years ago when Marquez couldn't get past him, and he took some chances getting to the front at Lusail. What I was trying to say is that he is not another Lorenzo as suggested by the commentators. It is certainly not his fault that the racing has become what it is at present.

Ahk, I was just confused as to why you'd say that MM and Pedro are the only reason to watch, plenty of others there to keep the entertainment up. Bring on the improve Michelin front slick I say, that's what's holding them back. In saying that, Qatar is not always the most exciting track to watch, we'll still have a few gooduns hopefully

[iYRe]

Just for interests sakes, I found this:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERVnARABzrM
(Kim Newcombe from Auckland)

[SaferRides]

I downloaded the 4k video and watched the start of the Qatar race. It makes quite a difference as you can see the bikes sliding more clearly - the leaders did very well to all be upright at the end of the first lap!

The download didn't take very long and averaged over 200 Mb/sec! It was the TNT commentary, so it must be viewable at 4k somewhere in the world, probably Europe. Might be time for a 4k TV, although it looked fine on a 27" monitor.

[actungbaby]

I prefer the more measured TNT (new name this season) commentary, but do miss Simon Crafar.

The stream I chose on Reddit worked perfectly for both races. I will try a 4k download though as it will be interesting to see how MotoGP looks. Watching sport in 4k while in the UK a few months ago was great.

It was a pretty boring race apart from Acosta overtaking almost at will until his tyres went off. Watching Marc riding smoothly just doesn't seem right, but finishing both races with no crashes over the 3 days must be a novelty for him. Also, Lusail is definitely not one of his favourite tracks.

Sent from my SM-S906E using TapatalkIt was boring race .looks great in 4 k .watched on my son's
Tv .think start watching wsbk
As well .

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[Reckless]

It was boring race .looks great in 4 k .watched on my son's
Tv .think start watching wsbk
As well .

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Good Idea!! 20 mins later :) I have Australia 3 x races
Quite like this new skill you guys have taught me :)

I guess superpole is qually then you have race 1 and 2.

[actungbaby]

Good Idea!! 20 mins later :) I have Australia 3 x races
Quite like this new skill you guys have taught me :)

I guess superpole is qually then you have race 1 and 2.Not sure buddy been ages since watched wsbk .I chouldint work , out how dl wsbk .
Yeah thanks to him .I used do torrent thing years ago .but forgotten about it .good English guy went well .good have new
People not just same ones.

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[SaferRides]

Good Idea!! 20 mins later :) I have Australia 3 x races
Quite like this new skill you guys have taught me :)

I guess superpole is qually then you have race 1 and 2.Superpole is a bit confusing. There is Superpole qualifying on Saturday which determines the grid for Race 1. Then there is a 10-lap Superpole race on Saturday with the same grid which decides the first 3 rows of the Race 2 grid. The remaining places are based on Superpole qualifying.



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[F5 Dave]

I'm thinking of something like Boduisias Chariot in the mix to keep them from becoming complacent :first:

[jato]

An interesting read by mr Emmett https://motomatters.com/analysis/2024/03/15/qatar_motogp_subscriber_notes_part_2.html
it sounds quite Gloomy for Yamaha fans (if they still exist) but i'm still reconcilling the opinion that Fabio has too much power now (remembering not long ago him being absolutely smoked on the straights)...

[SaferRides]

An interesting read by mr Emmett https://motomatters.com/analysis/2024/03/15/qatar_motogp_subscriber_notes_part_2.html
it sounds quite Gloomy for Yamaha fans (if they still exist) but i'm still reconcilling the opinion that Fabio has too much power now (remembering not long ago him being absolutely smoked on the straights)...You have to be a subscriber to see the full article.

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[roogazza]

So it looks like Ch3 will have highlights of Motogp Sundays (like last year).
A week after the event but thats ok for me.

I checked this arvo , Sunday at 4.50pm till about 6pm...

That's enough for me and SKY have WSB . :cool:

A little reminder for this arvo if you are at a loose end !!!! :yes: :woohoo:

[Reckless]

I must say after watching the WSBK the racing is good the bikes move around and look like they are being pushed much more than MotoGP.

Not sure about this tyre changing thing??
If your team can change quicker than anyone else why do they give a penalty if you leave the pit Lane early?
bloody strange seeing some stopping at pit exit and the others catching up.

It'll prob help me not to fast forward to the start this has prob been discussed pre race I'd guess LOL

[Autech]

I must say after watching the WSBK the racing is good the bikes move around and look like they are being pushed much more than MotoGP.

Not sure about this tyre changing thing??
If your team can change quicker than anyone else why do they give a penalty if you leave the pit Lane early?
bloody strange seeing some stopping at pit exit and the others catching up.

It'll prob help me not to fast forward to the start this has prob been discussed pre race I'd guess LOLSafety is my thought, if a wheel falls off a V8SC cause they didn't do the nut up properly not much happens.

If a wheel falls off a motorcycle cause they didn't fo the nut up properly the guy on top ends up in an ambulance or the morgue

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[Reckless]

Safety is my thought, if a wheel falls off a V8SC cause they didn't do the nut up properly not much happens.

If a wheel falls off a motorcycle cause they didn't fo the nut up properly the guy on top ends up in an ambulance or the morgue

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From the commentator comments it seemed to be a timing thing? They didn't seem to be able to exit pit lane before a certain time.
First bike out seemed to have to slow or stop if he got there to quick. It allowed the 5-6 behind to catch up and they left more or less as a group.
Didnt seem like racing to me but I'll have to do some more research. Wondering if this was just for Philip Island ??

[onearmedbandit]

Wondering if this was just for Philip Island ??

Yes. It's been resurfaced and there were concerns the tyres wouldn't survive a full race.

https://www.worldsbk.com/en/news/2024/Phillip+Island+races+to+feature+compulsory+pitstop

[BMWST?]

the pit stops are 1 minute minium for all

[SaferRides]

the pit stops are 1 minute minium for allI understood from the commentary that it was timed from pit lane entry to exit. This may be what caught out a couple of the teams, as they had to allow for the time from their pit box to the pit lane exit line.

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[Reckless]

Stupid rule leaving the rider wondering how fast or slow to get to the pit exit line :brick:

Rule should be 45 secs from "stationary to go" in pit box, that way the team can control it with a stop watch. :yes:
No penalties or guess work.

It looked like a cluster fuck and it ended up being one :yawn:

[jim.cox]

Yet another example of a rule getting in the way of going fastest <sigh>

Better watch out or it will become as boring as F1

[Warr]

Good luck finding free coverage for the racing.
After serious discussion with the finance department, I clicked subscribe 🤔

[jato]

ouch - looks like 330 am to watch the sprint on threenow ... "subscribe " it might have to be. i'll try and tough it out for a couple more races to confirm the value of this season

[F5 Dave]

C'mon Jimmy. How much do you save on not being close enough to go out for fancy dinners?

But buy her something nice to make up for it. :msn-wink:

[iYRe]

The sprint was certainly worth watching..

[sugilite]

Yep, that was a GREAT race!
I watched a delayed download and noticed they had tacked on the moto E race. First time I seen the class. It too was a great race!
Vinales should retire now why he is at the top (kidding) congrats to him for winning on three different brands of bike. A superb achievement and credit where it is due.
Was good to see MM up there, that move on Martin was classic MM. Though by his own standards that was a measured race. Lots more to come from MM me thinks.
Bagnia was all class, just one mistake undid what looked to be an effortless lead.
Tomorrow should be good, as long as they do not let Bagnia escape and control things.

[actungbaby]

Yep, that was a GREAT race!
I watched a delayed download and noticed they had tacked on the moto E race. First time I seen the class. It too was a great race!
Vinales should retire now why he is at the top (kidding) congrats to him for winning on three different brands of bike. A superb achievement and credit where it is due.
Was good to see MM up there, that move on Martin was classic MM. Though by his own standards that was a measured race. Lots more to come from MM me thinks.
Bagnia was all class, just one mistake undid what looked to be an effortless lead.
Tomorrow should be good, as long as they do not let Bagnia escape and control things.Yes that was great so good to see Mav show his talent and believe in himself .oh those passes I enjoyed that.
Also Jack leading glad he got
Show that .peco be strong in
The race .

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[Reckless]

Agree with all the comments great race. Impressed by MM watch out guys. MV never gelled with the guy but he did the job.
Evengetting used to the different comentary. Come on 3now get on demand going 😅

[pritch]

This just popped up on faceBook so, you know, I just had to...

[Warr]

Agree with all the comments great race. Impressed by MM watch out guys. MV never gelled with the guy but he did the job.
Evengetting used to the different comentary. Come on 3now get on demand going 😅
You help me justify my 'Subscribe' decision. - I watch the Moto3 Practise,
Moto2 Practise,
MotoGP Q1 & Q2 live
& then the Sprint at my leisure this morning 🥱

Bagnaia showed his class. Made a mistake, but knew with Martin not in the lead he still retain His lead holding 4th.
A man less in control would have tried to make it closer to the front and... much higher risk of falling off and not take any points 🤔 👌

[iYRe]

I still cant help that feeling if MM and Martin are pushing Pecco, he's going to make mistakes, he has a history of it. Today they didnt even have to get too close and he made a mistake - although it was not just him who had a similar issue, but the point stands I think.

[BMWST?]

ouch - looks like 330 am to watch the sprint on threenow ... "subscribe " it might have to be. i'll try and tough it out for a couple more races to confirm the value of this season
i am trying motogp a month at a time. I may pick certain months to get the max no of races.The coverage is awesome you can have up to 4 camera views at the same time. (watching on a laptop) I may get a chromecast so i can get over to the tv. My so called smart tv wont stream the motgp site( and i cant mirror my laptop on the tv either)

[Warr]

i am trying motogp .. ,.
My so called smart tv wont stream the motgp site( and i cant mirror my laptop on the tv either)
My DishTv Android set-top box & bedroom DishTV HDMI Android dongle both manage to run the Playstore MotoGP app. I saved a few $'s & didn't get multi camera. No idea what I'm missing .....

[pritch]

Apropos of nothing in particular. I was just visiting Disney+ and they have an eight episode series "MotoGP Unlimited". Filmed in 2021 I think. In case you have Disney+ and some spare time...

[Reckless]

You help me justify my 'Subscribe' decision. - I watch the Moto3 Practise,
Moto2 Practise,
MotoGP Q1 & Q2 live
& then the Sprint at my leisure this morning ��

Bagnaia showed his class. Made a mistake, but knew with Martin not in the lead he still retain His lead holding 4th.
A man less in control would have tried to make it closer to the front and... much higher risk of falling off and not take any points �� ��

I only have time for MotoGP always have. If I had time to watch as much as you I'd go SUB this is the first year I haven't had a subscription.
I am going to do MotoGP @ 3am and go back to bed for a couple hours, Usually on the sub it would be MotoGP with breaky at 6 or 7am.
Which is why I want 3now to go on demand. I will have a look at the monthly sub the others are on if the next few races are at queer hours??
But busy at work so should start at 8am plus off to NZCMRR Autumn classic @ Taupo on Thursday arvo so got the get the bikes ready as well - hence the lack of free time.
Hopefully we will see a good race tonight :)

[jato]

going off the poms (Bennetts) tv schedule then converting it to NZ it looks like 0215 am the preamble starts - could be cutting it a bit fine if the alarm is set for 0300...

[Reckless]

2.45 am gets me outa bed, jug on and see the warm up lap lol

[SaferRides]

It was more difficult finding good streams on Reddit this time - might use torrents in future, then I can watch in 4k. But the 4k files are huge - quali and the sprint are 24 GB!

It is ridiculous that 3Now can't run a proper streaming service for sport. Hopefully it will get sorted soon.

It was a good race though. That's the best I've seen Top Gun ride for some time - he certainly has the talent and now has a bike which he can ride fast, although the key improvement was his start.

I expect Ducati are busy developing better ground effect fairings!

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[Reckless]

Frantic start, then was settling to be a bit of a procession mid race then bam action.
Jm perfect race
Mv poor bugger
Acosta brilliant, the boy is very very good
Jeepers Pecco two cock ups in two races that might see him penalized next race

Well worth getting up for 😀
Night lads 👦

[iYRe]

Acosta brilliant, the boy is very very good
Jeepers Pecco two cock ups in two races that might see him penalized next race


That Acosta is growing on me.

Some folks are saying its all MM's fault he should have known and been ready..
Commentators are saying Pecco was too aggressive and should have buttoned off.

I'm not a racing expert but I was of the understanding that the lead bike has the ROW in that sorta instance. I'd appreciate some wisdom there.

[sugilite]

Yeah, for me that was Peccos fault. He was never going to make that without major contact.
Martin rode a absolutely perfect race. Bastinini was hanging in there at max, good result for him. Maverick was genuinely unlucky, with a behaving gearbox, he may of been able to win.

Acosta, wow just wow. I thought we would see the reemergence of the alien class rider/s this year in the form of MM being on a competitive bike, but it is actually Acosta who has already graduated to alien status! You could clearly see he did not give one shit about where and what the back end was doing, as long as the front end was kinda pointing in the generalish right direction he was all good. To not just stay on the bike when it was bucking and sliding all over the show, but to barely lose any time while doing it has me struggling to think of any other past riders that had the ability to pull it off as regularly and as often as what Pedro was!
This post race quote was eye catching from Acosta.... “Yesterday we were losing a lot in turn four and five, also the exit of turns five and six.“But today, seeing how Pecco was playing with the bike and with the body helped me understand how to ride the bike.”

So not bad, observe the current World Champions long and painstakingly developed stye, and incorporate it as your own style on the fly, then use it to beat said World Champion a few laps later. All in real time - Wow.

[Grumph]

That Acosta is growing on me.

Some folks are saying its all MM's fault he should have known and been ready..
Commentators are saying Pecco was too aggressive and should have buttoned off.

I'm not a racing expert but I was of the understanding that the lead bike has the ROW in that sorta instance. I'd appreciate some wisdom there.

Onus is always on the overtaking bike to pass safely. It gets murky when the lead bike changes line.

[iYRe]

Onus is always on the overtaking bike to pass safely. It gets murky when the lead bike changes line.

I think Pecco had a brain explosion. I mean, he just got passed by a Rookie.

This year is going to be quite interesting. 2 Aliens and some dudes on faster bikes...

[Reckless]

I'm not a racing expert but I was of the understanding that the lead bike has the ROW in that sorta instance. I'd appreciate some wisdom there.

MM's move = late but clean. Then he was lead bike. For me it came down to the size of the impact in the slowmo.
It was just too harsh to be a racing incident.
Therefore: bad decision Pecco he was never going to make it = Peccos fault = penalty.

Seems Pecco is a little rattled ATM its showing on track.

Edit: and Pecco was already wide and over shooting into MMs space

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[actungbaby]

That Acosta is growing on me.

Some folks are saying its all MM's fault he should have known and been ready..
Commentators are saying Pecco was too aggressive and should have buttoned off.

I'm not a racing expert but I was of the understanding that the lead bike has the ROW in that sorta instance. I'd appreciate some wisdom there.Well got think what mm did year
Ago hurt 2 so yes I think be karma

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[SaferRides]

I think Pecco had a brain explosion. I mean, he just got passed by a Rookie.

This year is going to be quite interesting. 2 Aliens and some dudes on faster bikes...Agreed, he was never going to make that pass. Perhaps he anticipated Marc running wide, but that was risky if he stayed on line.

Pecco probably only missed out on P5, but did hand everyone behind him 2 places.

Really unfortunate for Vinales, he probably would have held on for 2nd. This is by no means the first time that mechanical problems have lost Aprilia a strong finish



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[SaferRides]

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1046190/1/francesco-bagnaia-says-marc-marquez-move-wasnt-risky-angry-zero-points

Yeah, Pecco thought Marc had gone wide, but he hadn't and stayed on line. As Marc said, just not worth it for 2 points.

Vinales had trouble getting into 6th for the whole race, and then it wouldn't. Good to hear him being positive after the race, hopefully he can keep going strong for the rest of the season.

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[iYRe]

Some quotes from Jorge Martínez Salvadores (Aspar)


Marquez’s debut witҺ Ducati. “I tҺinƙ Һe is arriving and Һe is wanting to get to ƙnow tҺe biƙe, Һe is wanting to understand a little about tҺis new situation Һe is experiencing. And tҺat in tҺe first Grand Prix Һe is fourtҺ in tҺe World CҺampionsҺip is very good for Marc, but it is very good for tҺe CҺampionsҺip. I tҺinƙ we are going to Һave a great year witҺ Marc. [...]Marquez finisҺed four seconds beҺind Bagnaia ‘witҺ tҺe Һandbraƙe on’. Your accounts are a little scary, rigҺt? “Well, not only tҺat. TҺe Lusail circuit is not Marc’s favorite circuit. Now comes Portimao, wҺicҺ is also a complicated circuit, but tҺen comes tҺe United States, wҺicҺ we ƙnow is one of Һis favorites. And I believe tҺat if in Portimao we see Marc again in tҺat leading group, figҺting for victory, figҺting for tҺe podium; and tҺen tҺe United States comes and wins in tҺe United States. I believe tҺat tҺe United States is wҺere Һe will begin to marƙ Һis career. As I say, we are going to see a spectacular year and we are going to laugҺ a lot. We will Һave a good time”.

On Acosta

Pedro Acosta’s debut in MotoGP. “In tҺe case of Pedro, tҺe trutҺ is tҺat wҺat Һe did in training was brutal, wҺat Һe did in tҺe preseason was brutal, and wҺat Һe did on Sunday was brutal. And also witҺ tҺat self-confidence tҺat wҺen Һe finisҺed Һe said: ‘I don’t care; I spent a few laps witҺ tҺem, I learned a lot, I overtooƙ tҺem and I ƙnew tҺat tҺe tire was going to fall off, but I Һad a good time.’”

[Autech]

Much to digest.

I've been setting an alarm for 5mins before race start and watching in bed.

Notes:

MM should offer to ride for GasGas/KTM for free. He loves abusing the front and Pedro just put on a master class of it.

Maverick would have won the GP without the gearbox issues.

Bags dun fucked up, but a racing incident at least.






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[SaferRides]

Very carefully chosen words from Gigi Dall'igna:

"Very regrettable was the incident involving Pecco and Marc,” Ducati general manager Dall’Igna assessed.

“Which denied both the chance of scoring important points for the championship standings, in a complex race in which they were unable to vie for victory.

“In all honesty, any other comments would be utterly superfluous.”

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[iYRe]

That guy should be in Politics - leader of the labour party :P

[sugilite]

That guy should be in Politics - leader of the labour party :P

Lets see, he has clearly formed and built a very cohesive team, a successful winning bike and all in an incredibly efficient manner implementing stunningly successful strategies. So clearly no future for him in politics!

[iYRe]

Lets see, he has clearly formed and built a very cohesive team, a successful winning bike and all in an incredibly efficient manner implementing stunningly successful strategies. So clearly no future for him in politics!

Damn, you're right, I should have thought of that :)

[pritch]

I've been setting an alarm for 5mins before race start and watching in bed.


There's a thought. It's not like I have to get up to go to work.

[F5 Dave]

TBH I think MMs strategy has been the smartest and most considered in the paddock. He was overriding the Honda because otherwise he'd just fade to irrelevance like [insert honda riders name here].

But now he's on the learn. Watch out Cota. The Master is lurking and learning , biding his time, ready to strike.

. . . Of course, Acosta cares nothing for all this planning and will crash the party. Hey I'm here.

[SaferRides]

What Marc has gained now is patience. He was waiting for the tyres to come to him, then when he saw Acosta pass Pecco, he decided it was time to go. He probably didn't expect Pecco to come back like that, but then I don't think anyone else anticipated that move either.

I can't wait for COTA. Can Rins do it again? Who knows, it's not a great Ducati track.

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[Reckless]

MM's grinning from ear to ear about his decision to move, look where the Hondas are ATM :clap::devil2:

[sugilite]

MM's grinning from ear to ear about his decision to move, look where the Hondas are ATM :clap::devil2:I heard Honda were looking to throw their bikes on a trailer and hook it up to the pace car in order to improve their lap times.

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[SaferRides]

Mat Oxley got a photo of a GP24 with the faring off: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/motogp-scoop-ducatis-gp24-stripped/



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[iYRe]

Mat Oxley got a photo of a GP24 with the faring off: https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/articles/motorcycles/motogp/motogp-scoop-ducatis-gp24-stripped/



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Yeah I saw that on some other page. It is interesting but i dunno if I'd be trusting my lateral flex to a couple of wee strips of aluminium :P

[BMWST?]

Yeah I saw that on some other page. It is interesting but i dunno if I'd be trusting my lateral flex to a couple of wee strips of aluminium :P
i bet the wee strips of aluminium have very very well known properties and the results of the data are scrutinized closely to enable further tuning

[pritch]

There is apparently an article in the Financial Times UK that Liberty, the rights holders for F1, are about to make an offer for MotoGP. This is currently the topic of the day on X.

[Autech]

Rins is definitely the danger man when it comes to COTA I think. Hope he can show up and throw down on the Yamaha.

My problem with MM and the Ducati is not so much that he can't ride the bike, but more that its so full of down force thay he can't abuse the fuck out of the front to make the difference like on the Honda. He's definitely riding it very well, but its very hard to pick out any differences between the Ducati riders, especially as they're all so smart and will look at his data and copy anything he's doing better. As a result I'm struggling big time to see big result for him this season vs the 24 bikes as he needs to get onto winning before they improve more. COTA will be his best shot for sure

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[mulletman]

There is apparently an article in the Financial Times UK that Liberty, the rights holders for F1, are about to make an offer for MotoGP. This is currently the topic of the day on X.

Some on this

https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/1046273/1/f1-owners-liberty-media-close-eu4bn-purchase-motogp

[Grumph]

i bet the wee strips of aluminium have very very well known properties and the results of the data are scrutinized closely to enable further tuning

From the angle of the pic you can't tell if there's a stiffening web on the back edge. Wouldn't surprise me if there is one there.

[Grumph]

There is apparently an article in the Financial Times UK that Liberty, the rights holders for F1, are about to make an offer for MotoGP. This is currently the topic of the day on X.

I'm seeing rumors on at least one other site that it'll be announced at COTA. Liberty are US based and announcing it there would have the biggest impact in the US.

[onearmedbandit]

especially as they're all so smart and will look at his data and copy anything he's doing better.

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There's comments from certain riders who have seen Marc's data or observed him on track and stated that they can see what he's doing but can't do it themselves or understand how he does it. Seeing data is one thing, replicating it is of course something else entirely.

[Autech]

There's comments from certain riders who have seen Marc's data or observed him on track and stated that they can see what he's doing but can't do it themselves or understand how he does it. Seeing data is one thing, replicating it is something else entirely.There's a big difference between Crutchlow and Martin/Bags etc though. Unfortunately for him it looks like the 24 bike is a decent step up on the 23, going off how he's the only one really looking good in it every session, where in previous years the previous gen bike was noticably better in the first rounds.

Will be interesting to see where things head, I at least see Marc on a full spec bike at Pramac or Gresini next year

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[SaferRides]

There may be 2 seats at Pramac next season, although Morbidelli might have a 2-year contract.

Aprilia could be looking for a factory rider...

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[F5 Dave]

So in the Oxley Bom podcast (another plug, it's free but I've signed up as its very good) they had a show about tyres. Basically the Michis played into Gigis hand. He could engineer a bike that would work with massive rear grip but suboptimal front.

The problem now is Pirelli have all the feeder classes and they behave entirely different. The logical extension is if they take over MotoGP as well, the long and low, push everything down with Aero designs will suck.

And everyone will be trying to build a Yamaha.
How about that? Weird if it played out. 2027 till contract runs out but I hope Yam haven't sent their 2021 bikes to the crusher yet.

[Grumph]

Well. it's announced. Liberty are buying MotoGP - incl WSB.

I see there are already suggestions of a 2nd race in the US with Indy suggested as likely.

[pritch]

The Liberty offer made the main radio news bulletin this morning. Not the sports news. The news. MotoGP doesn't make the news very often.

[Reckless]

Thanks for the updates guys. Been away Trackday Taupo then Racing NZCMRR Autumn classic.

Big news
Did I read was a 3.5 billion dollar deal to buy Moto GP and WSBK??
Dorna and Espeleza?? retaining 14% and still running the show.

There is people saying all over the net the subs are going to go up not down which is a bummer, we shall see.

[F5 Dave]

Hot-Diggity-Damn! 2027 eng. Regs to be updated to 1800cc but Air-cooled and max cylinders- 2.

In any layout you wish as long as it can represented as a Letter.

Hmm. Why do stories like this get posted on the 2nd of April?

Although, in the states. . ..

[jim.cox]

But does anyone think this Liberty deal is actually going to improve the racing?

Or will it be just another regulation restricted parade lap for advertisers?

Call me a cynic if you will

[Grumph]

But does anyone think this Liberty deal is actually going to improve the racing?

Or will it be just another regulation restricted parade lap for advertisers?

Call me a cynic if you will

No. I can see some of the less affluent GP's pruned off the calendar to make room for those who are prepared to pay like F1.
And the only reason to prune the calendar is because with sprints included the calendar is too crowded now.

Like F1, we may see it made harder to find a place for a new team. It's not easy now but it could get more difficult.
Who's going to allow BMW in ?

[onearmedbandit]

Dorna still have a financial stake in MotoGP and are retaining control of the series under the new deal. I guess we will just wait to see what happens but laughable there are a lot of 'the sky is falling the sky is falling' comments out there.

[jim.cox]

there are a lot of 'the sky is falling the sky is falling' comments out there.

I dont think the sky is falling at all.

I just dont want to see something I enjoy watching being turned into the dull & boring sideshow shambles that is F1 today