Stealth Plates

[Berries]

Get them while you can - black-and-silver-number-plates-dropped-over-readability-issues (https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/360459523/black-and-silver-number-plates-dropped-over-readability-issues)

[HenryDorsetCase]

I have just ordered another one. At my advanced age I dont really even care too much that the revenue collectors might not be able to clock the plate number, I got it purely for aesthetics. An all black motorcycle needs a black number plate, thats it.

[Berries]

This change is due to readability issues – in some lights and conditions, there’s not enough contrast between the silver text and the black background, making the plates difficult to read.

I'll have two please.

[R650R]

Tempting for a paltry $199, that’s only four bags of groceries at PaknSave….

But will it garner you more attention at traffic stops? There’s bound to be a cop or two in every town that hates them, instead of a warning it will be ticket even with good attitude.

There’s nothing to stop NZTA from cancelling them at a future date once they’ve had more time to work out how to rewrite the legislation as those things take time.

On a good interesting station guy said the whole vertical plate orientation thing had been binned as there was too many things they hadn’t thought about so that’s shelved for time being.

[Berries]

But will it garner you more attention at traffic stops? There's bound to be a cop or two in every town that hates them, instead of a warning it will be ticket even with good attitude.
Well, they are legal plates sold legally by NZTA approved manufacturers. Like Henry, there are people who like them just because they look good, which is why they were introduced.

I heard about the difficulties with 'seeing' some of these plates months ago. I assumed that whatever the issue was was sorted out immediately through a change to the manufacturing process or whatever. Surely they cannot still be selling plates that aren't picked up by a speed camera, can't be seen at night and can't be seen from certain angles? To be honest I thought it was only a car thing anyway, never having seen these plates on a bike. The story in Stuff today showed a bike plate, albeit a pisstake. A quick Google and wow, they are changing the rules but you still have a week to purchase number plates that can't be read in certain conditions.

I would never have bought wanky personal plates but if they are going to advertise that they are illegible in certain conditions and they are going to be banned next week then fuck it, I'm having one. Sales must have gone through the roof today.


There’s nothing to stop NZTA from cancelling them at a future date once they’ve had more time to work out how to rewrite the legislation as those things take time.
You're probably right, but they will have to refund the money. And it is NZTA of course, they seem to have been getting quite good at fucking up the basics over the last few years so I won't be holding my breath.

[jellywrestler]

You're probably right, but they will have to refund the money. And it is NZTA of course, they seem to have been getting quite good at fucking up the basics over the last few years so I won't be holding my breath.
yeah. like we all got money back when they changed the life time licenses.....

[Berries]

How much did you pay NZTA for your lifetime licence?

[Gremlin]

I would never have bought wanky personal plates but if they are going to advertise that they are illegible in certain conditions and they are going to be banned next week then fuck it, I'm having one. Sales must have gone through the roof today.
I've been looking at black and silver for a while and thought, they do look a lot nicer than dog bollox white with black letters. I know several bikes with black and silver, and I've seen how when they catch certain light you can't see the plate from the letters (plus just the general harder to see factor). I've also sworn I'd never want plates that are easier to remember...

So I bought 3 tonight :weird: Fuck it, can't take it with me...

1 is a regular plate, quite a convenient one, converting to black and silver (which means it actually becomes personalised, ie, transferrable), two for a wee venture, also black and silver.

[jellywrestler]

How much did you pay NZTA for your lifetime licence?

can't recall

[rastuscat]

can't recall

It was peanuts. Expecting a lifetime of licensing for peanuts was a bit naive.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It was peanuts. Expecting a lifetime of licensing for peanuts was a bit naive.

but, but, the gubblemunt PROMISED. Are you saying we shouldn't trust the gubblemunt because they break their promises?

[pete376403]

but, but, the gubblemunt PROMISED. Are you saying we shouldn't trust the gubblemunt because they break their promises?

just as Shipley *promised* the new drivers license would not become a default identity card

[onearmedbandit]

People take politicians at their word and trust them?

[HenryDorsetCase]

People take politicians at their word and trust them?

of course, they're public servants whose only desire is to serve the public and make their lives better. Thats why Cwissy Luxon is happy to get me a glass of water whenever I snap my fingers.

[JimO]

i still have my lifetime licence and the book one preceding it

[jim.cox]

they're public servants whose only desire is to serve the public and make their lives better.


'Public serpents whose only desire is to sever the public' is a little more accurate

[Laava]

of course, they're public servants whose only desire is to serve the public and make their lives better. Thats why Cwissy Luxon is happy to get me a glass of water whenever I snap my fingers.
I have found "don't you know who I am?" works wonders

[SaferRides]

Get them while you can - black-and-silver-number-plates-dropped-over-readability-issues (https://www.stuff.co.nz/motoring/360459523/black-and-silver-number-plates-dropped-over-readability-issues)Thinks, $199 for a motorbike plate. I quite like my regular plate as it's dead easy to remember, so will order one as I like how the silver and black looks.

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[neels]

I do like the picture in the stuff article on the subject

https://www.stuff.co.nz/media/images/9Tzi8ywRz924XE3uHaD6DZ3Ef+IdbOiYlvIROR5vlqUeRrexTo cZGobKRJ9od%2Fgnk3B%2FCeKTmTAsIjj6Q0YaYSqLJNt9z+Ng ZZiKOKxBcD09wRuCKRCu4%2FXVqwy4CZ90X5AhFf14nK2kj8B6 wlUIFb1Rb0xjoDwWZY6SF+%2FqcmE3j5Kc3Q+s8uoeRI+kvSEK Q3xcrsQmZ5gr9IWF282lb1p8MroeIg1fm1kFps7r2%2FipY5q6 TFfDHvP5f8xxY89tOrRfzszz1hrwkZVVF%2FxIxGBObp8c1YAI 5XElhH+KCBKvxqIrjz045+sykk8kL9zoofmzSr7qCpaopcnSdP wDYEdK7kwV6UtT0RFhwBKvJX+07UUNPLDyemVoHdWKA22kaUef CeFxpR4Bc91kDpITaFJLam92oSHqZSyjHDM8oxPcLRWCcqYWJL 9%2FJZsxYsvQ?resolution=1240x700

Bit of a cockup all round really, it's been circulating for a while that various cameras weren't able to read the black plates, obviously too big a problem to fix so easier to take them off the market.

It seems strange that after the announcement it's still possible to buy them, but a great boost for kiwiplates business.

[jellywrestler]

market.

It seems strange that after the announcement it's still possible to buy them, but a great boost for kiwiplates business.

they've done well lately what with some money from nearly every tesla rebate going to them, and the fact that they represent about 800000 ways to say wanker.

[SaferRides]

Part of the problem may be the smaller car plates that are available. I saw the silver and black version on a Tesla today, and being smaller and having less contrast, they are more difficult to read than the full size plates.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

they've done well lately what with some money from nearly every tesla rebate going to them, and the fact that they represent about 800000 ways to say wanker.

The only vanity plate I would pay for is unavailable because it has 7 characters "NCC1701" IYKYK

[F5 Dave]

They might get to 7 characters.
If they can get to where no licence agency has gone before.

[F5 Dave]

i still have my lifetime licence and the book one preceding it

Why? What are you expecting to do with those?

(Asking for a friend who still has theirs in a folder somewhere and can't seem to throw them out).

[Berries]

The only vanity plate I would pay for is unavailable because it has 7 characters "NCC1701" IYKYK
Ok, Napier City Council is the first bit and your birthday must be the 17th of January.

And for the bonus point IYKYK make zips.

Got to be close?

[FLUB]

The only vanity plate I would pay for is unavailable because it has 7 characters "NCC1701" IYKYK

You could always go for Archer's NX01


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[HenryDorsetCase]

You could always go for Archer's NX01


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ENT is my second favourite series

[SaferRides]

Done.

If NZTA subsequently decide to make the silver on black illegal, then there could be some interesting liability issues given that they approved them in the first place.

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[R650R]

If you fail roadside attitude test this clause could cause grief….

“Obscured or indistinguishable registration plate or licence
(1)
A person commits an offence if the person operates a motor vehicle by driving or using it on a road if the motor vehicle has affixed to it any registration plate or licence that is in any way obscured, or is rendered or allowed to become not easily distinguishable, whether by night or by day.
(2)
A person commits a stationary vehicle offence if the person operates a motor vehicle by causing or permitting it to be on a road if the motor vehicle has affixed to it any registration plate or licence that is in any way obscured, or is rendered or allowed to become not easily distinguishable, whether by night or by day.”

[HenryDorsetCase]

If you fail roadside attitude test this clause could cause grief….

“Obscured or indistinguishable registration plate or licence
(1)
A person commits an offence if the person operates a motor vehicle by driving or using it on a road if the motor vehicle has affixed to it any registration plate or licence that is in any way obscured, or is rendered or allowed to become not easily distinguishable, whether by night or by day.
(2)
A person commits a stationary vehicle offence if the person operates a motor vehicle by causing or permitting it to be on a road if the motor vehicle has affixed to it any registration plate or licence that is in any way obscured, or is rendered or allowed to become not easily distinguishable, whether by night or by day.”

As long as the plate was lawfully obtained, mounted in a "proper way" and was not modified, I dont think any Judge would see the funny side.

What i am expecting to happen is for them to say "We are revoking the black with silver and sending you a nice shiny new white reflective one with black free of charge. Free of charge - imagine that?!" And we will all say "But I replaced the shitty white reflective one with black letters because its fucking hideous" and they'll say "Well yeah, tell you what we will go back to those atrocious 300 x 300 square ones that everyone loved so much. And we'll say "three bags full sir"

Number plates are like speed limits - guidelines for the weak minded.

[Berries]

Yeah, I don't see any problems at the side of the road. The Police will have pulled that clause out when the plates came out and been told it would not stand up in court.

Anyway, what do you do with the original plate when the black jobbie arrives? NZ is quite precious about number plates for some strange reason so i guess they will demand it back somehow. If they did revoke the black and silver plates, which I am sure they will one day if it reduces government income, it might be cheaper for TPTB if they allow us to keep the OE plate. Otherwise they will have to get them remade and refund the cost of the black one.

Actually, isn't this whole thing racist?

[SaferRides]

I doubt they'll revoke the silver/black plates, otherwise you'll have thousands of pissed off Tesla owners who could crash the National Grid by all charging their cars at once.

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[SaferRides]

I received notification from KiwiPlates that my plate has been approved, but there is an Important Notice that states manufacture of silver on black plates must be requested by 30 November 2024, otherwise they will be made as white on black.

[Berries]

I read that if you wanted to order a black and sliver plate you had to do it via KiwiPlates before 1st November so today is your last chance. KiwiPlates do all the checks and approvals and shit then send your order to Licensys who make the plate. Licensys however have to stop making the black and silver plates on 30th November.

By the look of it you can order replacement plates direct from Licensys but if you want to alter the look of them, ie go black and silver, you have to order through KiwiPlates so today is the last day you can do it.

Or get a can of rattle and some masking tape.

[neels]

I read that if you wanted to order a black and sliver plate you had to do it via KiwiPlates before 1st November so today is your last chance. KiwiPlates do all the checks and approvals and shit then send your order to Licensys who make the plate. Licensys however have to stop making the black and silver plates on 30th November.

By the look of it you can order replacement plates direct from Licensys but if you want to alter the look of them, ie go black and silver, you have to order through KiwiPlates so today is the last day you can do it.

Or get a can of rattle and some masking tape.
Yep, big green header on the kiwiplates website that today is the last day to order silver on black plates. I had a look, but the plate I would have bought wasn't available, and don't see the point of a new plate for the existing rego number.

Many years ago I got told off by a policeman for having painted the letters on the then standard silver and black plate, apparently it's an offence to alter a registration plate. Didn't get ticketed, and easily sorted with some paint thinners.

[F5 Dave]

I quite like Orange as a colour.

[Berries]

The Trump thread is over there >>>>>>

[HenryDorsetCase]

I quite like Orange as a colour.

You'd love my Street Triple.

[F5 Dave]

Sunburst? A mate has one. Looks great.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Sunburst? A mate has one. Looks great.

Matt Burnt Orange. I like it somuch I bought another set of bodywork for it

[F5 Dave]

Sorry yes, Burnt.

Sunburst was the Kia colour I chose to repaint my hiace.
I painted my YZF Monaro Orange (spiced uo with a little more).
And one of my racebikes was a flat signal orange.

[rastuscat]

Sorry yes, Burnt.

Sunburst was the Kia colour I chose to repaint my hiace.
I painted my YZF Monaro Orange (spiced uo with a little more).
And one of my racebikes was a flat signal orange.

Funny.

Thinks hi-viz is naff.

Paints his vehicles orange.

[F5 Dave]

I don't recall saying hi vis was naff. Is this a statement with any data behind it , or just a prejudiced opinion?


I've literally just changed into an orange Tshirt (ChoiceBros brewery giveaway) now I'm home. Only piece of orange clothing I own though. I'm not a psychopath.

[SaferRides]

In case anyone else is trying to get a plate made. Their website was broken this morning but there is a message now - click on this to read it.

355168

[SaferRides]

Placed the order this morning - might have it by Christmas as there's a 15-25 day backlog. Can't think why!

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[roogazza]

Placed the order this morning - might have it by Christmas as there's a 15-25 day backlog. Can't think why!

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I saw an Ad on TV just last night for the new plates ?
No mention of a cut off date for these new plates ???

Maybe they are enjoying the $$$ and not concerned about things like hard to read by cameras ?

[SaferRides]

I saw an Ad on TV just last night for the new plates ?
No mention of a cut off date for these new plates ???

Maybe they are enjoying the $$$ and not concerned about things like hard to read by cameras ?Kiwiplates were very clear when I placed the order that requests for the manufacture of silver on black plates must be submitted by 30 November. Maybe it was an old ad?


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[Gremlin]

Kiwiplates were very clear when I placed the order that requests for the manufacture of silver on black plates must be submitted by 30 November. Maybe it was an old ad?
The issue is that I've got one on manufacture now, then I need to do two more before the end of November. You have to have active registration (not hold) in order to request manufacture.

I only have one live currently, will liven up another this coming weekend, but can I order a plate on a bike that already has a pending order... hopefully the first arrives shortly, I requested manufacture on 2 Nov...

[SaferRides]

The issue is that I've got one on manufacture now, then I need to do two more before the end of November. You have to have active registration (not hold) in order to request manufacture.


That's what delayed me. Rego must be current with more than 30 days until expiry, and then I realized it needed a new WoF as well. But all sorted now.

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[pete376403]

The black "stealth" plates can be read by some cameras. Just received my toll notice for Tauranga eastern link. $2.30 toll, $4.90 administration fee (for a fully automated system?)

[SaferRides]

Mine still hasn't arrived, but they did say up to 25 working days when I ordered.

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[R650R]

The black "stealth" plates can be read by some cameras. Just received my toll notice for Tauranga eastern link. $2.30 toll, $4.90 administration fee (for a fully automated system?)

Well they do have digital photos of them on website… I’d guess the rolling booths would have a combo of still and video systems to read plates. And then a human operator whether there or remote gets an alert for an unreadable plate and manually observes you on a backup system.

With more toll roads just announced it won’t be long before we go to an electronic form of rego that will broadcast your rego number/id anyway…

[neels]

With more toll roads just announced it won’t be long before we go to an electronic form of rego that will broadcast your rego number/id anyway…
Most of the toll roads elsewhere you have to put the tag in the car, or be charged exorbitant 'admin' fees for processing your toll payments.

They'll find a way to get you.....

[Gremlin]

Mine still hasn't arrived, but they did say up to 25 working days when I ordered.
I received mine a little over a week ago (all 3 together), on the Wednesday. Plan to put them on this weekend, but making an aluminium backer so they can be double sided taped to the backer, keeping the plate nice.

[Berries]

I received mine a little over a week ago (all 3 together), on the Wednesday. Plan to put them on this weekend, but making an aluminium backer so they can be double sided taped to the backer, keeping the plate nice.
Yeah, mine arrived a month ago and I got carried away with drilling holes in it without thinking that if I transfer it in the future the holes may be elsewhere and I won't be getting a replacement plate.

Doh.

[pritch]

The black "stealth" plates can be read by some cameras. Just received my toll notice for Tauranga eastern link. $2.30 toll, $4.90 administration fee (for a fully automated system?)

Interesting. What happens if you don't pay? $7.20 doesn't even justify a follow up letter.

[SaferRides]

I received mine a little over a week ago (all 3 together), on the Wednesday. Plan to put them on this weekend, but making an aluminium backer so they can be double sided taped to the backer, keeping the plate nice.When did you order them? Excellent idea to use a backing plate, thank you.

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[Gremlin]

When did you order them? Excellent idea to use a backing plate, thank you.
All were initially ordered in Oct before cut off. First plate was approved on 2nd Nov for manufacture (plate went live that day). I then ordered the 2nd on 25th Nov and rang the following day, as now I was concerned how the first would be finished so I could order the third on top of it. Lady was really good once I explained how I was trying to get three plates on two motorcycles, so queued the third on top of the first, said no worries, because you called in etc, they'll all be silver on black. All arrived on 11th December together.

Re the aluminium, you can either have 2-4 bits at the top for mounting and adding the rego/wof holders, or I'm probably going to keep it simple and have it higher all the way across, plenty of room to put additional holes in the future if needed.

I did have friends get theirs before mine, but ordered after me, so the sequencing is weird.

I'm also going to order security torx screws to mount them. Can't believe how I've changed. First I didn't care how dirty the plates were... now I'm trying to keep em nice, but then, you can't get them again (unless they re-introduce later)
Figure this double sided tape shouldn't let me down: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/scotch-2-54-x-10-6m-mount-extreme-double-sided-mounting-tape-mega-roll_p0323826

[Stylo]

All were initially ordered in Oct before cut off. First plate was approved on 2nd Nov for manufacture (plate went live that day). I then ordered the 2nd on 25th Nov and rang the following day, as now I was concerned how the first would be finished so I could order the third on top of it. Lady was really good once I explained how I was trying to get three plates on two motorcycles, so queued the third on top of the first, said no worries, because you called in etc, they'll all be silver on black. All arrived on 11th December together.

Re the aluminium, you can either have 2-4 bits at the top for mounting and adding the rego/wof holders, or I'm probably going to keep it simple and have it higher all the way across, plenty of room to put additional holes in the future if needed.

I did have friends get theirs before mine, but ordered after me, so the sequencing is weird.

I'm also going to order security torx screws to mount them. Can't believe how I've changed. First I didn't care how dirty the plates were... now I'm trying to keep em nice, but then, you can't get them again (unless they re-introduce later)
Figure this double sided tape shouldn't let me down: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/scotch-2-54-x-10-6m-mount-extreme-double-sided-mounting-tape-mega-roll_p0323826

I have black security 'torx' screws on the black plates on the '14R .

Only because they look so much better than silver screws on a green and black(ish) bike. I'm wondering what the next 'Personalised' number plate offering will look like ?

I await with baited breath.

[pete376403]

Interesting. What happens if you don't pay? $7.20 doesn't even justify a follow up letter.
"Pay now to avoid further charges You are legally required to pay your toll. If we dont receive payment before the due date we'll need to refer to a collection agency. Then you may be issued with a toll offence notice with an infringement fee of $40. This is in addition to the amount owing and extra debt collections agency costs"

[jellywrestler]

I'm wondering what the next 'Personalised' number plate offering will look like ?

I await with baited breath.

just be another 220000 ways to say i'm a tosser i'd guess?

[F5 Dave]

How is this thread still going?

[Stylo]

just be another 220000 ways to say i'm a tosser i'd guess?

My black plate was only the same details as the white one. Saved some money.

Nothing personal.

[SaferRides]

All were initially ordered in Oct before cut off. First plate was approved on 2nd Nov for manufacture (plate went live that day). I then ordered the 2nd on 25th Nov and rang the following day, as now I was concerned how the first would be finished so I could order the third on top of it. Lady was really good once I explained how I was trying to get three plates on two motorcycles, so queued the third on top of the first, said no worries, because you called in etc, they'll all be silver on black. All arrived on 11th December together.

Re the aluminium, you can either have 2-4 bits at the top for mounting and adding the rego/wof holders, or I'm probably going to keep it simple and have it higher all the way across, plenty of room to put additional holes in the future if needed.

I did have friends get theirs before mine, but ordered after me, so the sequencing is weird.

I'm also going to order security torx screws to mount them. Can't believe how I've changed. First I didn't care how dirty the plates were... now I'm trying to keep em nice, but then, you can't get them again (unless they re-introduce later)
Figure this double sided tape shouldn't let me down: https://www.bunnings.co.nz/scotch-2-54-x-10-6m-mount-extreme-double-sided-mounting-tape-mega-roll_p0323826

Yes, that 3M tape should do the job.

I'll phone on Monday and check what's happening with my plate. It's just a remake of my existing black on white plate.

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[SaferRides]

My plate finally arrived on Monday! I called earlier this month and was told that they are trying to clear the backlog by the end of January.

Mounting it looks like a little more of a mission than I expected. I am trying to avoid drilling holes, as the lack of predrilled holes probably means that there is no standard spacing for motorbikes. Whites do a number plate mounting bracket which looks like it will do the job and comes in black, so have ordered one. I will need to move the reflector down as well and find a new place for the WoF holder as it is currently attached to the number plate.

Not sure I would have bothered if I had thought this through, but the silver and black does look much better on the R1.

[Gremlin]

Correct, no standard spacing for bikes, BMW is 76mm or something, KTM is 90mm, but yeah, nothing standard.
With the aluminium backer I put the plates on, they're taller than the plate, 4 holes along the top. 2 for mounting, then one either side to hold wof or rego holder.
The BMW reflector is built in above the plate, the KTM had a piece of plastic behind the plate, so I got the narrowest red reflector and stuck it between the mounting holes.

[SaferRides]

With the aluminium backer I put the plates on, they're taller than the plate, 4 holes along the top. 2 for mounting, then one either side to hold wof or rego holder.

The BMW reflector is built in above the plate, the KTM had a piece of plastic behind the plate, so I got the narrowest red reflector and stuck it between the mounting holes.
Did you buy the backing plate, or make something yourself? I do not know the dimensions of the Whites bracket, but it should be delivered tomorrow.

Otherwise I may just drill the new plate. I can always use a couple of black plugs to fill in the holes if I need to.



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[caseye]

Be careful, mounting the new plates, a backing plate, soft silicone and washers on the plate, will mean your PLATE won't crack and fall off, had 2 do this over the years

[Gremlin]

Did you buy the backing plate, or make something yourself? I do not know the dimensions of the Whites bracket, but it should be delivered tomorrow.

Otherwise I may just drill the new plate. I can always use a couple of black plugs to fill in the holes if I need to.
Couldn't see anything suitable for my needs in terms of buying something, had some aluminium plate from years ago I'd never used, so cut two pieces out of it, used a grinder on the edges etc. Not display quality, but suffices for my needs.
I've also broken plates in the past, so I know how flimsy they are.

[SaferRides]

Thanks, the new plate certainly does not feel as robust as the old one.

I bought some black screws for mounting the backing plate today. They are hex socket, so one step better than Phillips for security. I had a look at the security screws for number plates but am not buying something that needs a special tool to remove.

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[pete376403]

they are not strong. I bumped against the edge of the plate and it bent quite easily. It straightened just as easily but it doesn't bode well for long term. Will consider a backing plate and RTV

[Gremlin]

They are hex socket, so one step better than Phillips for security. I had a look at the special security screws for number plates but am not buying something that needs a special tool to remove.
I used security torx, torx with a pin in the centre.

[SaferRides]

I used security torx, torx with a pin in the centre.Bunnings didn't have those! I'll order some, might fit them to the car as well.

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[caseye]

The issue is that the plates stress harden and then crack through the holes, wife's bike nearly lost the plate completely.
The silly and a backing plate fixed it!:2thumbsup

[SaferRides]

The issue is that the plates stress harden and then crack through the holes, wife's bike nearly lost the plate completely.
The silly and a backing plate fixed it!:2thumbsupUnderstood, I'm not drilling the plate.

The Whites bracket arrived today but I'm still not sure how it's meant to work. Maybe it will make more sense in the morning when I'm sober!

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[F5 Dave]

Silicon is a good idea, but my fav flexible adhesive is Selleys All Clear.

Actually I lost my 675 plate eventually a while back. They d9nt remake them, a new number is only option. Boo.

[SaferRides]

The Whites bracket arrived today but I'm still not sure how it's meant to work. Maybe it will make more sense in the morning when I'm sober!

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Got it now, there are 2 adjustable brackets that bolt to the main one with 90° end plates for WOF and rego.

The main bracket only covers about a third of the plate, so not really what I want. It will be returned. But I have found a side mount bracket in black aluminium that looks more promising, $7 from a local seller. At least I know the dimensions of this one.



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[Gremlin]

They d9nt remake them, a new number is only option. Boo.
Standard issue govt plates, no, not re-made. Personalised plates (including converted standard issue ones) yes, you can get them re-made (or changed between car/bike if needed).

[R650R]

Standard issue govt plates, no, not re-made. Personalised plates (including converted standard issue ones) yes, you can get them re-made (or changed between car/bike if needed).

Interesting on NZTA it says you still can, and the form for replacement says in fine print dont use if you just want a duplicate???
Could be case of being served by wrong person at counter?

Anyhow following a workmate out gate, his black plate doesn’t seem as unreadable now. Wonder if once there’s a bit of wear and tear coupled with it exposure that they start to lose the effect???? Early adopter on a 4x4

[Gremlin]

It's a lot about the light angle. White plates are also unreadable at certain angles, sun reflection etc, it's just black has a greater range of angles where it's unreadable.

[SaferRides]

One positive for the white plates is they can make the bike more visible from the rear. The R1 was parked in the shade the other day, and the white number plate stood out clearly against the dark colours..

I vaguely recall that it was one of the reasons for changing to white plates many years ago?

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[Gremlin]

Finally back on the bike (was shocked to realise I hadn't ridden since mid December, and I did the plate swap after that), and the plate is still attached to the aluminium and didn't fall off... hopefully it stays that way. Seems pretty solid.

[SaferRides]

Finally back on the bike (was shocked to realise I hadn't ridden since mid December, and I did the plate swap after that), and the plate is still attached to the aluminium and didn't fall off... hopefully it stays that way. Seems pretty solid.That 3M tape is good, I doubt you will have a problem.

I've only been out twice this year. It's been a very windy summer in Auckland, but I hear it's been even worse further south.

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[SaferRides]

Got it now, there are 2 adjustable brackets that bolt to the main one with 90° end plates for WOF and rego.

The main bracket only covers about a third of the plate, so not really what I want. It will be returned. But I have found a side mount bracket in black aluminium that looks more promising, $7 from a local seller. At least I know the dimensions of this one.



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Bugger, the new bracket arrived today and is steel, not aluminium, which is why it was only $7. I am not bolting that to a plastic mudguard!

The temptation to get the drill out is getting stronger, but I will order an aluminium version from AliExpress. The one downside is that the mounting holes are 8 mm, not 6, but I have some black washers.

[SaferRides]

Finally back on the bike (was shocked to realise I hadn't ridden since mid December, and I did the plate swap after that), and the plate is still attached to the aluminium and didn't fall off... hopefully it stays that way. Seems pretty solid.How much of the 3M tape did you use? The instructions say 4" per lb, which works out at about 1" for a number plate!


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[F5 Dave]

That sounds about right.
As long as you are hanging it on a wall and don't have to contend with movement, wind, bumps, vibration. There's probably more.

[Gremlin]

How much of the 3M tape did you use? The instructions say 4" per lb, which works out at about 1" for a number plate!
Ignoring the edge bit, 4 full width of tape strips on the first plate on the BMW, placed vertically, so moisture could flow through. One at each end, then two more wherever there was the most area of black (as that's closest to the backing).

Second plate on the KTM, which will see more vibration with gravel etc, I did more. Again, 4 strips, but also a little more wherever there was areas of black. eg, in an C or O, stick some tape in the middle.

[SaferRides]

I was going to have strips along the top and bottom, but the bracket is slightly shorter then the plate once it is offset for the mounting holes. The bracket has oval holes to reduce weight, which means that the positioning of the tape relative to the flats on the plate could be tricky.

I was going to fit it today but have a bandaged middle finger after an incident with a knife. Not clever.

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[F5 Dave]

Guns don't kill. . . I mean, knives don't etc etc

[SaferRides]

Finally! Looks good on the bike, but half of the reflector is covered. I need to find a new home for the WOF holder, which was screwed onto the back of the old plate.

The bracket is designed for US licence plates, but it matched up well to the flat areas of the plate. The fun part was cutting a length of tape in half for the middle strips.

Apparently the best tape is 3M VDB, which is used for glazing.

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[SaferRides]

The bracket is aluminium, powder coated and maybe 3 mm thick. $12 from AliExpress. I drilled 6 mm holes near the top edge that line up with the existing mounting holes in the mudguard.

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[Berries]

Seems like an awful lot of faffing around instead of drilling the plate, bolting it on and riding it? I guess it must be possible for someone walking past to pull the plate off, whatever tape is used?

I mucked around with WOF and rego placement. In end I bolted a WOF holder to another hole drilled in the plate, black bolt so you don't notice it, and for the first time used the sticky label holder they supply when you renew the registration and stuck that to the back of the plate.

Simple to check the bolts whenever I want. Not sure I could trust it being taped on and would be half expecting for it not to be there after a ride.

[SaferRides]

It's no ordinary double sided tape! It would be easier to unscrew than pull the plate off.

I only did this because the new plates tend to crack around the screw holes and I can't replace mine with another silver on black. It didn't take long to fit once I had the right bracket. Plus I can easily move the plate to another bike if it has different screw spacing.

Edit: I've used the tape to attach the reflector to the bottom of the bracket. Feels more solid than when it was bolted to the plastic mudguard.

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[pete376403]

It's no ordinary double sided tape! It would be easier to unscrew than pull the plate off.

I only did this because the new plates tend to crack around the screw holes and I can't replace mine with another silver on black. It didn't take long to fit once I had the right bracket. Plus I can easily move the plate to another bike if it has different screw spacing.

Edit: I've used the tape to attach the reflector to the bottom of the bracket. Feels more solid than when it was bolted to the plastic mudguard.

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Is it the 3M black rubber-like tape with a red plastic peel off on both sides? If so it's more likely to break the plate if you try to move the plate to another bike.

[SaferRides]

Is it the 3M black rubber-like tape with a red plastic peel off on both sides? If so it's more likely to break the plate if you try to move the plate to another bike.This one is dark grey and has the red plastic peel off. I agree, the plate is never coming off, which is why it's glued to a bracket and not the bike. See the photo a few posts earlier.



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[Gremlin]

Seems like an awful lot of faffing around instead of drilling the plate, bolting it on and riding it? I guess it must be possible for someone walking past to pull the plate off, whatever tape is used?

I mucked around with WOF and rego placement. In end I bolted a WOF holder to another hole drilled in the plate, black bolt so you don't notice it, and for the first time used the sticky label holder they supply when you renew the registration and stuck that to the back of the plate.

Simple to check the bolts whenever I want. Not sure I could trust it being taped on and would be half expecting for it not to be there after a ride.
It was indeed my concern, especially for initial rides. However, as said, this extreme stuff is... extreme. There is no give between backing and licence plate. You'd have to take fishing line or wire or something, to slice the plate off the backing. I've had plates break in the past, the replacement was bonded to perspex to make it stronger. They're not very thick or strong at all.

All bolts (4) are through the aluminium, two to mount, two for symmetry, one each side for the rego and wof holders.

[SaferRides]

I was curious about the VDB tape, and found a post comparing it to Extreme. According to this, they have identical specs. So Extreme is probably the consumer version as it is sold by the hardware chains.

VDB might be cheaper, but you'd need to buy a longer roll.

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[SaferRides]

The plate and the reflector survived 1,500 km around Northland. The ultimate test...

To be fair, a ride around Northland is a great experience. Just avoid SH1 as much as possible.

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[release_the_bees]

To be fair, a ride around Northland is a great experience. Just avoid SH1 as much as possible.

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[SaferRides]

Mangamuka Gorge being the obvious exception to what is otherwise a very good rule.

Sent from my SM-S901E using TapatalkAgreed, and the last 30 kms of the road to the Cape isn't bad.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

This one is dark grey and has the red plastic peel off. I agree, the plate is never coming off, which is why it's glued to a bracket and not the bike. See the photo a few posts earlier.

this is an excellent tip. Thank you!

I traded my car last week and it has one of the hideous white plates. The option now is black with white writing so I will organise that.

[SaferRides]

this is an excellent tip. Thank you!

I traded my car last week and it has one of the hideous white plates. The option now is black with white writing so I will organise that.Thank Gremlin for this. He made an aluminium plate and I bought a cheap number plate frame.

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[pete376403]

I was curious about the VDB tape, and found a post comparing it to Extreme. According to this, they have identical specs. So Extreme is probably the consumer version as it is sold by the hardware chains.

VDB might be cheaper, but you'd need to buy a longer roll.

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Prior to retirement I used that tape in Kiwibank fitouts to secure iPad mounting holders to countertops. The iPads were key locked to the holders. If "customers" tried to steal the iPads, the mounts would break long before the tape gave way.

[F5 Dave]

Gosh that's a sad indictment on certain parts of society.
Also Bank. Surely Cameras.

[SaferRides]

I have tested my silver on black plate on all of the toll roads in the upper North Island, and it was read correctly in every case. It may be different on a gloomy winter's day, but I'm unlikely to be riding then!

[Dodgyiti]

Plate flipper. It's the future.
Big brother will be watching everything soon... :psst:

[F5 Dave]

Exup servo on a button.

[FLUB]

I have an old 7" iPad Mini that I reckon I could fit into a waterproof case and fit it as a rear number plate. Power wouldn't be an issue as it could be taken from the rear light though a 5V convertor. A quick trip to the local NZTA carpark would be a source for a collection of numbers to display on the iPad [emoji848][emoji6]

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[caseye]

Plate flipper. It's the future.
Big brother will be watching everything soon... :psst:

Is Stat Ue Mr Dodgione?
My God, it lives!.
Still out in the sticks with bedrooms for the MG's?:woohoo: