Trade me, have they just given up?

[jellywrestler]

Call me a dinosaur but I still use Trademe and it seems that some of there faults have remained for months and months, like they have just given up on caring that their product is not right.
On many auction you cannot use a sell similar item option for example, on others I'm unable to do a fixed price offer.
Anyone else pissed off with it??

[Katman]

This seems appropriate.


why don't you pm both the people who actually give a toss?

[jellywrestler]

This seems appropriate.

Do you have these little gems stored away in a wank bank sort of folder or did you spend nearly two hours frantically looking for while still in your pyjamas?

[R650R]

Typical for a near monopoly business model. Fakebook market place must be putting a good dent in revenue so they prob can’t afford to address all issues.

Somewhere out there will be a young fella designing a new app platform as everyday technology makes it easier to address changes in consumer demand and bring something new out eg who’d have thought China would come up with Temu and muscle in on Amazon and alibaba/ebay….

I have hated tm ever since they moved away from the original browser setup that was so much easier to navigate.

Still I recently sold a bike on there in under 48hrs so end of day it does work.

[jellywrestler]

Typical for a near monopoly business model. Fakebook market place must be putting a good dent in revenue so they prob can’t afford to address all issues.

Somewhere out there will be a young fella designing a new app platform as everyday technology makes it easier to address changes in consumer demand and bring something new out eg who’d have thought China would come up with Temu and muscle in on Amazon and alibaba/ebay….

I have hated tm ever since they moved away from the original browser setup that was so much easier to navigate.

Still I recently sold a bike on there in under 48hrs so end of day it does work.

ebay fucked itself moving away from paypal to this new thing, it's now only for retailers or high volume movers, I've not tried markeplace as yet, should have a play356360

how does marketplace attract this sort of traffic, todays trademe for me, haven't sussed that one out yet

[HenryDorsetCase]

ebay fucked itself moving away from paypal to this new thing, it's now only for retailers or high volume movers, I've not tried markeplace as yet, should have a play356360

how does marketplace attract this sort of traffic, todays trademe for me, haven't sussed that one out yet

I am another dinosaur still using tardme. Which does suck.

I am too pretty to use Arsebook market place - I can't be arsed being raped and murdered. And some of the dross that people try and sell there is just awful.

[neels]

I am too pretty to use Arsebook market place - I can't be arsed being raped and murdered.
Come on, where's your sense of adventure.

Tardme appears to be surviving mainly on the fact that they seem to still be the preferred option for real estate ads, otherwise it's pretty hit and miss whether you'll get any interest.

At least you can put a relatively coherent search into tardme, arsebook marketplace dishes up all sorts of rubbish that in no way resembles what you're looking for.

As for the people on marketplace, assuming you have managed to have some sort of coherent interaction, you still have the lottery of trying to make sensible arrangements to complete the purchase. My favourite is when you think you've got it all sorted, then complete radio silence from the idiot on the other end.

Easier to just take stuff to the recycling centre and save yourself the brain hurt.

[sugilite]

It is standard shitification.
Big business buys a popular platform, then progressively make it shittier for the user while making it more profitable for them - until it falls over when enough people leave.
Trademe is still one of the best ways to sell a bike, but my impression is the rest of it is filled with sellers that buy off alibaba/express and the like and then flog it off on trademe.

I'm not a seller on TM, but I can near guarantee that the greedy owners will have been making it less and less attractive to sell on trademe through greed based rules and fees over the years.

I was a seller on ebay right from the early days and the same thing happened there, fees went up and protections for the seller were stripped away to the point dishonest buyers knew they could rip off sellers with impunity. At it's height for me, ebay represented 10% of my international sales, and but created 90+% of my headaches. My quality of life improved immeasurably when as a seller I kicked ebay to the curb.

[HenryDorsetCase]

It is standard shitification.
Big business buys a popular platform, then progressively make it shittier for the user while making it more profitable for them - until it falls over when enough people leave.
Trademe is still one of the best ways to sell a bike, but my impression is the rest of it is filled with sellers that buy off alibaba/express and the like and then flog it off on trademe.

I'm not a seller on TM, but I can near guarantee that the greedy owners will have been making it less and less attractive to sell on trademe through greed based rules and fees over the years.

I was a seller on ebay right from the early days and the same thing happened there, fees went up and protections for the seller were stripped away to the point dishonest buyers knew they could rip off sellers with impunity. At it's height for me, ebay represented 10% of my international sales, and but created 90+% of my headaches. My quality of life improved immeasurably when as a seller I kicked ebay to the curb.


I am looking for some stereo speakers currently (going def = need for larger louder speakers... and no I will not entertain the notiion that years of large, loud speakers have enhanced the deafness) and there is SO MUCH SHIT on tardme. I am filtering by "Used Only" now because of it.

[jellywrestler]

Easier to just take stuff to the recycling centre and save yourself the brain hurt.

and find they have put it up on trademe?

[sugilite]

I am looking for some stereo speakers currently (going def = need for larger louder speakers... and no I will not entertain the notiion that years of large, loud speakers have enhanced the deafness) and there is SO MUCH SHIT on tardme. I am filtering by "Used Only" now because of it.

I see you are in Christchurch, but as one never knows where each intrepid kiwi biker might roll up, may I be as bold to recommend that you visit Kiwi Dogs in Hunterville - no seriously. Not only does he make sensational hotdogs with super soft sourdough buns, also made in Hunterville, but he also sells second hand old school stereo equipment. He had a fairly nice range of speakers variable as of a few weeks ago. You can see some of the stereo equipment in the background in photo 2 shown at the link below. (big speakers are out of shot on the ground)
https://www.happycow.net/reviews/kiwi-hot-dogs-hunterville-442653

[neels]

and find they have put it up on trademe?
Don't think they sell stuff on tardme in this part of the world, just ends up in their big second hand shop. If it finds a new home rather than going into landfill, and I don't end up with a headache, that's a win.


I am looking for some stereo speakers currently (going def = need for larger louder speakers... and no I will not entertain the notiion that years of large, loud speakers have enhanced the deafness) and there is SO MUCH SHIT on tardme. I am filtering by "Used Only" now because of it.
Bigger speakers are better speakers.

Don't know what speaker snobbery level you reside at, but might be worth risking sexual assault.. https://www.facebook.com/share/1Xz1hvLDiX/

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[jellywrestler]

I am looking for some stereo speakers currently (going def = need for larger louder speakers... and no I will not entertain the notiion that years of large, loud speakers have enhanced the deafness) and there is SO MUCH SHIT on tardme. I am filtering by "Used Only" now because of it.

simple common sense, the one that pisses me off is classic and vintage bikes. on tm, you can't search by new or used, nor most bids,
it takes a bit of work to make it work selling, as you'll see by my piccie a few up there's still traffic through there and i'm happy with sales You can pull a bike apart, list 100 items, sell ten one week, 3 the next then keep relisting the same shit for a decade now, that makes searching a must, as is knowing what to list it as and keywords to get customers.

[SaferRides]

Not many private sellers on TM marketplace now, or they get swamped by 100 ads for the same thing.

I tried to sell a motorbike tyre on TM, no response. I had the usual problem on FB of a buyer who said he really wanted it, then never paid, but I had other buyers lined up and one of them came through. I'd be very careful buying on FB though.

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[HenryDorsetCase]

Don't think they sell stuff on tardme in this part of the world, just ends up in their big second hand shop. If it finds a new home rather than going into landfill, and I don't end up with a headache, that's a win.


Bigger speakers are better speakers.

Don't know what speaker snobbery level you reside at, but might be worth risking sexual assault.. https://www.facebook.com/share/1Xz1hvLDiX/

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I want something a bit gruntier than that, thanks though. Going to look at some B & W 683's tomorrow which look promising. I had their smaller cousin a few years back and really liked them.

Bigger speakers move more air so are better - even at lower volumes.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I see you are in Christchurch, but as one never knows where each intrepid kiwi biker might roll up, may I be as bold to recommend that you visit Kiwi Dogs in Hunterville - no seriously. Not only does he make sensational hotdogs with super soft sourdough buns, also made in Hunterville, but he also sells second hand old school stereo equipment. He had a fairly nice range of speakers variable as of a few weeks ago. You can see some of the stereo equipment in the background in photo 2 shown at the link below. (big speakers are out of shot on the ground)
https://www.happycow.net/reviews/kiwi-hot-dogs-hunterville-442653

most of the dealers here have tradein stuff sort of on the basis that if they have sold it they will stand by it, and there are a couple of dealers in it as well. One's in Methven and the other in town..... thanks for the tip though. Plus Hot Dogs are breakfast of champions.

[neels]

Bigger speakers move more air so are better - even at lower volumes.

Deceptively so, and more effective for lower frequencies. My triple cone tower speakers don't 'feel' loud, until you try and converse with the person beside you.

[pete376403]

Don't think they sell stuff on tardme in this part of the world, just ends up in their big second hand shop. If it finds a new home rather than going into landfill, and I don't end up with a headache, that's a win.


Bigger speakers are better speakers.

Don't know what speaker snobbery level you reside at, but might be worth risking sexual assault.. https://www.facebook.com/share/1Xz1hvLDiX/

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Work colleague was redecorating his lounge so gave me a Wharfedale set like that including the glass topped sub, plus a Pioneer home theatre amp. Good and loud.

[HenryDorsetCase]

Work colleague was redecorating his lounge so gave me a Wharfedale set like that including the glass topped sub, plus a Pioneer home theatre amp. Good and loud.

score! 10 characters

[F5 Dave]

Not sure where we are at as I was speed reading. It's like normal reading but without the comprehension.

I picked up speakers. I used to have Vifa towers. My friend said the only time he has had concert deafness was after a night drinking at my place. We'd do it every 3 months or so. How the neighbours never complained ill never know as the sessions went till 2 or 3.

Weirdly the new lad at work casual conversation used to live at my old house.
NZ. 2 degrees.

[F5 Dave]

Oh and the first time I heard Breakfast of champions was after a night drinking camping at a race track and Bacon and Eggs was on the bbq in the morning. Used it ever since.

[Gremlin]

TM earns the majority of income from Motors and Property, then jobs I think.
They certainly don't care about some random bloke selling one item.

That said, last week I picked up a particular model of mobile, new in box for a fair price. Deal was done within a day from offer, to bank details and payment.

[sugilite]

I was lucky to have a pair of Tamon 808 speakers when a young teen, they had two mid range speakers to keep up with the 15" bass! Had em hooked up to a Yamaha Amp and A turntable and that was my stereo. The speakers were very heavy. Unfortunately the rubber ended up perishing around the cones and I never got them fixed - doh.

https://www.picclickimg.com/PWcAAOSwvihY99qz/Very-RARE-TS-808-TAMON-Speakers-JAPAN-Alloy-Bullet.webp

Larger photo linked below....

https://i.redd.it/zuwhawv7cs481.jpg

[pete376403]

score! 10 characters
indeed. grandkids have discovered vinyl, even though they dont have a stereo with a turntable - they are buying LPs for the cover artwork (!) so I bought a new stylus for a Sanyo turntable I had, a basic pre-amp from Jaycar, and introduced them to the magic of 33 1/3. The system is located in a granny flat out the back of the house so the upper levels can be explored.

[F5 Dave]

I bought a new stylus for my turntable, but I haven't fitted it yet, the short people who inhabit my house made a play for the lounge and seen to have won some years back, with enough jumping up and down in front of you-tv-tube , I dare not play any record and have largely been driven from the area. Almost my height by now. :bye:

[pritch]

My speaker system dates back to the 1960s. There are two sets of Akai cabinets, one has 12" 7" and 3" speakers approx. The other has 10s and 2s. Much of the music they play now is the same as when they were new.

[HenryDorsetCase]

I am excited today because JB Hi Fi have let me know that my preorder of the repress of Shihad's Killjoy album can be picked up. I do hope the neighbours will be enjoying it this afternoons... SWMBO is out so no complaints!

[release_the_bees]

I just received a personalized, AI generated list from Trade Me of items that I might be interested in. The list comprises a pair of Triumph Thruxton shocks, an R Nine T front fork, and various other motorcycle parts - all from models I've never owned. There's also a couple of adventure tyres thrown in in sizes that'll fit none of my bikes.



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[F5 Dave]

I'm sure you can be comforted in the fact that there will be legions of Fiord drivers getting Stillholdingtogether parts aimed at them. Probably Muslims being offered Christmas inspirational tea towels and whatnot.

[Gremlin]

I just received a personalized, AI generated list from Trade Me of items that I might be interested in. The list comprises a pair of Triumph Thruxton shocks, an R Nine T front fork, and various other motorcycle parts - all from models I've never owned. There's also a couple of adventure tyres thrown in in sizes that'll fit none of my bikes.

I have 3 bikes, and in a show of brilliant planning, none of the tyres are the same... that way, so many tyres become options! I also have to keep 6 spare tyres to make sure I have what I need, when I need it.

[Laava]

I just received a personalized, AI generated list from Trade Me of items that I might be interested in. The list comprises a pair of Triumph Thruxton shocks, an R Nine T front fork, and various other motorcycle parts - all from models I've never owned. There's also a couple of adventure tyres thrown in in sizes that'll fit none of my bikes.



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How much did you end up paying for that lot?

[release_the_bees]

How much did you end up paying for that lot?Quietly sneaks off to check out the prices of Triumph Thruxtons and R Nine Ts on Trade Me. [emoji41]

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[pete376403]

Re: vinyl records and turntables - looking forward to trying this on with the grandkids:

[HenryDorsetCase]

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While we are on this

[SaferRides]

I just received a personalized, AI generated list from Trade Me of items that I might be interested in. The list comprises a pair of Triumph Thruxton shocks, an R Nine T front fork, and various other motorcycle parts - all from models I've never owned. There's also a couple of adventure tyres thrown in in sizes that'll fit none of my bikes.



Sent from my SM-S901E using TapatalkIt might be a while before AI takes over the world. My first attempt to use ChatGPT ended in failure when it couldn't upload the file to process.

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[nerrrd]

It might be a while before AI takes over the world….

Yes, I think companies like Apple (who care about the user experience) are demonstrating it’s going to take a while yet before we can reliably give AI general agency over anything important, the excessive hype about it is another sign of that IMHO.

I still use Trademe occasionally to get rid of things I don’t need anymore, mostly works, although I have had buyers back out after bidding on some items, or not bidding at all and requesting fixed price offers after the auction has ended…both of which are annoying.

[BMWST?]

I have had good luck with trademe,sold a vehicle and bought some specific two way radio gear .I use as many search filters as i can. You always have dreamers tho. With the vehicle i put it on at 17000 which was a good price for it. One guy imeediately offers me 12000. I say the dealer will do better than that,he says I will make it cash?? ANother guy quibbld about every little scratch and detail( I had said it some scrathing from 4wding) Next day someone had hit the buy now button.

[Kickaha]

he says I will make it cash??

What was he going to pay in otherwise? Jellybeans ? paying cash doesn't mean shit anymore

[jellywrestler]

although I have had buyers back out after bidding on some items, or not bidding at all and requesting fixed price offers after the auction has ended…both of which are annoying.

sometimes half my sales are fixed price offers, that's life. we've done thousands of trades and had less than 1/2 a dozen back out luckily.

[Laava]

What was he going to pay in otherwise? Jellybeans ? paying cash doesn't mean shit anymore
The only time it was better was when people paid with a cheque.
glazier I knew used to say he would take cash stash or food!

[Gremlin]

... or not bidding at all and requesting fixed price offers after the auction has ended…both of which are annoying.
I feel attacked... the number I've missed (sometimes days later)
I'll do better next time!!

... whoops...

[BMWST?]

What was he going to pay in otherwise? Jellybeans ? paying cash doesn't mean shit anymore
exactly! .It can be advantageous for a business of course

[HenryDorsetCase]

exactly! .It can be advantageous for a business of course

It's a ballache.

[Kickaha]

exactly! .It can be advantageous for a business of course

Only if you're trying to put aside some undocumented pocket money from your own business, otherwise it is a total pain

[nerrrd]

I feel attacked... the number I've missed (sometimes days later)
I'll do better next time!!

... whoops...

Yeah well I don’t do reserves, so the starting bid is my minimum. If nobody bids, I might as well give it away.

It’s an auction site after all, innit.

[neels]

Yeah well I don’t do reserves, so the starting bid is my minimum. If nobody bids, I might as well give it away.

It’s an auction site after all, innit.

Searching cars can be a pain in the arse with the starting bid of $1000, and a buy now price of $18000. As you've said, start=reserve at the minimum you'll take, and hope you have a good day and do better than that.

[jellywrestler]

It’s an auction site after all, innit.

not really, they charge you for a reserve so it's discouraged, if you go into motorcycle parts there's about 460000 parts there, and 60 parts with bids on them
one in 7600 parts.

[Laava]

It was free general listings yesterday, and the catch is that anything you sell gets paid thru Ping at your cost (2.19%) and you have no choice on that. Not sure if it was for fixed price or auction only or both…

[jellywrestler]

It was free general listings yesterday, and the catch is that anything you sell gets paid thru Ping at your cost (2.19%) and you have no choice on that.
eh? there was choice, either don't list or list on a different day.
it wasn't for everyone either, we have four accounts, it wasn't offered to all of them

[Laava]

eh? there was choice, either don't list or list on a different day.
it wasn't for everyone either, we have four accounts, it wasn't offered to all of them
Ok so what I meant was, the free listing only, had no choice re the Ping. It hasn't been like that previously. It was not a moan, just pointing it out. As in, it is not entirely free.

[jellywrestler]

Ok so what I meant was, the free listing only, had no choice re the Ping. It hasn't been like that previously. It was not a moan, just pointing it out. As in, it is not entirely free.

so talking to the mrs you could opt out of the ping thing but then you paid fees, fair marketing strategy to me, got us thinking.

[Laava]

so talking to the mrs you could opt out of the ping thing but then you paid fees, fair marketing strategy to me, got us thinking.
I guess you can choose to not do the free listing?

[240]

I want something a bit gruntier than that, thanks though. Going to look at some B & W 683's tomorrow which look promising. I had their smaller cousin a few years back and really liked them.

Bigger speakers move more air so are better - even at lower volumes.

683s are fucken awesome speakers.Bed them in and enjoy mate.