Jevon McSkimming

[Katman]

How the fuck did someone like this make their way to the top of the police system?

[pritch]

Quite apart from any moral considerations he's obviously thick. Kiddie porn and bestiality on work devices? That's stupid. There is also another ongoing criminal matter? The Police really do need to take a serious look at their systems. Instead they will likely just circle the wagons.

Completely different but here's another one who should never have been where he was.
https://www.stuff.co.nz/nz-news/360764249/justice-appointee-resigns-everything-after-stuff-investigation-reveals-flawed-cv

[Katman]

Kiddie porn and bestiality on work devices?

I wonder whether the fact that they've chosen to call it child exploitation material, as opposed to child porn, is to avoid having to charge him with a criminal offence.

[neels]

How the fuck did someone like this make their way to the top of the police system?

The way most people end up at the top of those type of organisations, self promotion and willingness to put morals (if they have any) to one side to play the necessary games to make their way upwards.

Not really surprising that you might find they're sometimes not of great character.


Quite apart from any moral considerations he's obviously thick. Kiddie porn and bestiality on work devices? That's stupid. There is also another ongoing criminal matter? The Police really do need to take a serious look at their systems. Instead they will likely just circle the wagons.]

You have to remember all that's needed is to create the impression of competence to those equally incompetent above, and enthusiastically support the latest 'strategy' and 'initiatives', no need to be clever or good at anything just unquestioning and enthusiastic about whatever rubbish they promote to appease their current masters.

I think they've already established that it's far to easy to connect what should be their secure internal systems to the outside world


I wonder whether the fact that they've chosen to call it child exploitation material, as opposed to child porn, is to avoid having to charge him with a criminal offence.

Probably because they like using big words in legislation, sounds better when they read it out in court.

[R650R]

The way most people end up at the top of those type of organisations, self promotion and willingness to put morals (if they have any) to one side to play the necessary games to make their way upwards.

Not really surprising that you might find they're sometimes not of great character.



You have to remember all that's needed is to create the impression of competence to those equally incompetent above, and enthusiastically support the latest 'strategy' and 'initiatives', no need to be clever or good at anything just unquestioning and enthusiastic about whatever rubbish they promote to appease their current masters.

I think they've already established that it's far to easy to connect what should be their secure internal systems to the outside world



Probably because they like using big words in legislation, sounds better when they read it out in court.

Yep Jordan Peterson did a good break down once that many people at CEO type level have sociopathic tendencies and certain lack of empathy almost as a necessity to rise to that level.
What’s refreshing is commissioner owning how bad it is and not offering up any excuses like say the Green Party might if it was one of them.
It did say he managed police IT system at one career stage…
Like any addiction drugs/porn/alcohol there is no sector of society unaffected.
Whoever was the whistleblower really should be on queens honour list or something, take some balls to call out someone that high up in any heirachy from what we assume must be a low level it nerd or subcontractor. At least it shows the police are transparen t and not into cover up

[pritch]

It did say he managed police IT system at one career stageÂ…


Interesting. There was a huge scandal some years back when, rather than buy existing software, the police tried to create their own. The plan was that they could then sell this brilliant product to the world. Entrepeneuring with tax payer money. It was a very expensive and very public failure.

Might be his style?


Oh, that sociopaths can do well in business has been known for a long time. Jordan Petersen can't claim credit for that.

[JimO]

Interesting. There was a huge scandal some years back when, rather than buy existing software, the police tried to create their own. The plan was that they could then sell this brilliant product to the world. Entrepeneuring with tax payer money. It was a very expensive and very public failure.

Might be his style?


Oh, that sociopaths can do well in business has been known for a long time. Jordan Petersen can't claim credit for that.

INCIS i think it was called

[pete376403]

INCIS i think it was called

Integrated National Crime Information System. IBM had a big involvement in that. And lost a bundle terms of both money and good personnel.

[pritch]

A woman from Wellington visited the office one day and said her previous job had been with the Police working on INCIS. Ever tactful I told her that if it was me I wouldn't have mentioned that.

[Katman]

And now Andrew Coster is up to his neck in it.

Hiding McSkimming's indiscretions from the Police Minister.

[pritch]

And now Andrew Coster is up to his neck in it.

Hiding McSkimming's indiscretions from the Police Minister.

His job heading up a government agency for half a million dollars a year seems to be in jeopardy. Good.

[Katman]

9 months home detention.

The system clearly looks after its own.

[jellywrestler]

9 months home detention.

for what exactly?

[jim.cox]

for what exactly?

Pleaded guilty to three representative charges of having objectionable publications of child sexual exploitation and bestiality.

His offending included 2945 images - about 1900 searches for material of a sexual nature, 432 of which were intended or highly likely to return objectionable material.

[jellywrestler]

Pleaded guilty to three representative charges of having objectionable publications of child sexual exploitation and bestiality.

His offending included 2945 images - about 1900 searches for material of a sexual nature, 432 of which were intended or highly likely to return objectionable material.

so what is the normal sentence for this sort of offence, compared to what was dished out today?

[husaberg]

Pleaded guilty to three representative charges of having objectionable publications of child sexual exploitation and bestiality.
.

someone recently got 3 years for I think similar sort of offending but who really knows how they rate this sort of offending.

Boyd Mitchell, 54, was sentenced in the Greymouth District Court on Wednesday to six representative charges of possessing 107,000 objectionable images and 4000 videos downloaded between 2012 and 2024.https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/west-coast/panel-beater-jailed-child-sex-abuse-material (https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/west-coast/panel-beater-jailed-child-sex-abuse-materialHis)
His house was set on fire three times, his car also.

I wondered what was it broadly classed as and what the av sentence is he still appears to have got off light but who knows what sick shit he had or how they even rate it


Objectionable material under NZ law also includes "objectionable material" under the Films, Videos, and Publications Classification Act 1993 includes content dealing with sex, horror, crime, cruelty, or violence in a way likely injurious to the public good, especially anything exploiting or sexually abusing children, promoting terrorism, or degrading groups of people. Key elements are depictions of child sexual abuse, promotion of sexual exploitation/coercion, child nudity, terrorism.
What makes it objectionable (Key Criteria):
Child Exploitation: Any material depicting child sexual abuse, child pornography, or exploiting children for sexual purposes.
Sexual Violence: Content promoting violence or coercion to compel sexual acts.
Terrorism/Crime: Material that promotes or supports terrorism or criminal acts.
Group Degradation: Content representing any class of the public as inherently inferior (based on race, religion, etc.).
Public Good: Deals with sex, horror, crime, cruelty, or violence in a manner likely to be injurious to the public good (a broad standard).
Oddly A few on KB have claimed its their right to post such material on KB previously....(racist crap not child abuse)

[Kb2020dope]

someone recently got 3 years for I think similar sort of offending but who really knows how they rate this sort of offending.
https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/west-coast/panel-beater-jailed-child-sex-abuse-material (https://www.odt.co.nz/regions/west-coast/panel-beater-jailed-child-sex-abuse-materialHis)
His house was set on fire three times, his car also.

I wondered what was it broadly classed as and what the av sentence is he still appears to have got off light but who knows what sick shit he had or how they even rate it


Oddly A few on KB have claimed its their right to post such material on KB previously....(racist crap not child abuse)

Hey mate,

Good to see you are on the right side for once. But seriously mate to mate you should change your profile avatar if you are actually against this stuff. Its not a good look.

Cheers

[actungbaby]

9 months home detention.

The system clearly looks after its own.Yes stubid judge added up discounts on purpose so
He chould allow it. It's just wrong
He used lame oh he be at risk there segregated aren't they.
Omg my uncle a former commisnar. Said he whouldint
Get top job as old school cops
With experience. It was new breed university degrees and politically correct get there.
He personally sacked went to cells of a cop let side down.
Jevon is a bloody disgrace wessel of a man gutless.

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