New ACC levies from 1st July

[pete376403]

Not noticing any outrage (or even calm discussion) here on the new ACC levies to be applied from 1 July. My two over 650s will be liable for $1066 per year. assuming both get 12 month registration. (not gonna happen)

MAGNZ on FB is organising petitions, Official Information requests and a protest ride (Auckland only).

While putting bikes on hold , or forgoing registration altogether is easily achievable, each has its downsides.

Or is everyone ok with the new charges?

[BMWST?]

Not noticing any outrage (or even calm discussion) here on the new ACC levies to be applied from 1 July. My two over 650s will be liable for $1066 per year. assuming both get 12 month registration. (not gonna happen)

MAGNZ on FB is organising petitions, Official Information requests and a protest ride (Auckland only).

While putting bikes on hold , or forgoing registration altogether is easily achievable, each has its downsides.

Or is everyone ok with the new charges?
there was a protest ride in wellington but i did not go as i did not agree as the protest was at a vtnz station. I think the 800 or so is outrgeous. Mag are also trying to get the rationale/eveidence between the cc bands. Ie is there actually a correlation between the cc bands and the costs associated? I will def sign the petition.
I will prolly put rego on hold over the middle winter months but thats what they probably want us to do

[F5 Dave]

I had something on. Went to the last one and they just pushed it through anyway. Fukers.

[pete376403]

I attended the wellington protest - the intent of gathering at the VTNZ sites was lost on me as well as I could not see what VTNZ had to do with ACC charges.

[rastuscat]

I fully understand the antagonism about the change that is coming. I've got two bikes to licence, this is going to make the choice very hard.

The experience of the past is that arguing the point is like trying to get a referee to change his moind about a red card. Most unlikely.

I'm likely to just suck the breath through my teeth, and licence the bike I want to use. I'll do a Gold course to get the discount, but it's still daylight robbery.

The ACC actuaries may already know it, but they are widening the gap between themselves and riders, which is counter productive.

[BMWST?]

I fully understand the antagonism about the change that is coming. I've got two bikes to licence, this is going to make the choice very hard.

The experience of the past is that arguing the point is like trying to get a referee to change his moind about a red card. Most unlikely.

I'm likely to just suck the breath through my teeth, and licence the bike I want to use. I'll do a Gold course to get the discount, but it's still daylight robbery.

The ACC actuaries may already know it, but they are widening the gap between themselves and riders, which is counter productive.
I can understand the policy but the thing for me is its not supposed to be user pays. Why arent rugby players charged more than soccer players, Why arent horse riders charged more than cyclists .Answer. We are an existing identified group within a framework they can easily charge us.

[jellywrestler]

I can understand the policy but the thing for me is its not supposed to be user pays. Why arent rugby players charged more than soccer players, Why arent horse riders charged more than cyclists .Answer. We are an existing identified group within a framework they can easily charge us.

An electrician pays a different rate to a chef to a builder to a pilot, how would they charge rugby players or skiers exactly?

[nerrrd]

I guess I’m lucky, my bike goes from the top band to the mid band so only a moderate increase.

All the arguments from the original protests still stand, nobody is listening - short of a highly organised, large-scale sustained protest campaign, and even that probably wouldn’t work.

And now we even have the drongos on e-bikes adding to the disdain of the general public towards two-wheeled transportation.

[BMWST?]

An electrician pays a different rate to a chef to a builder to a pilot, how would they charge rugby players or skiers exactly?
thats the problem isnt it. We are a indentifiable group. Perhaps via the clubs

[pete376403]

An electrician pays a different rate to a chef to a builder to a pilot, how would they charge rugby players or skiers exactly?
It is all here: https://www.acc.co.nz/assets/business/Levy-Guidebook-2025-2026.pdf

Professional rugby players fall under the high-risk Equine and Sporting Activities category (Levy Risk Group 919). The Work Account levy rate for professional rugby players is $6.43 per $100 of liable earnings. Because of the high rate, New Zealand Rugby (NZR) and Super Rugby franchises have actively campaigned against these rates in recent years, noting it places significant financial strain on the sport. Top All Blacks earn between $800,000 and $1.3 million annually, while average squad members make around $450,000 to $600,000. So it looks like the ABs are actually paying their way

[jellywrestler]

, nobody is listening - short of a highly organised, large-scale sustained protest campaign, and even that probably wouldn’t work.

protests dont do shit. A careful plan writing to each and every mp and person standing reminding them of the number of voters and publicising their answers would have a better impact. a series of random acts with no cohesion is a messy waste of time

[release_the_bees]

At least it looks like they'll still be offering rebates for doing the Ride Forever courses.

It's going to be fun keeping four bikes registered going forward.

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[rastuscat]

At least it looks like they'll still be offering rebates for doing the Ride Forever courses.

It's going to be fun keeping four bikes registered going forward.

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Cashback is gone, it's being replaced with a thing they are now calling Rider Rewards.

The good news is that if you do a Gold course every 2 years, you get a 25% discount on every bike you licence.

The bad news is that this is a bit like a sale at some shonky retailer where they put the price up, then discount it and tell you it's a bargain.

[1/32 man]

I have signed the petition and even made a donation.

[pete376403]

Another anomaly has shown up with registration: people attempting to beat the July 1 increases online have been charged at the new, post July rate. This occurs between confirming details on the website 9at the old rate) then getting charged the new rate at the payment screen. This is not just a few dollars, could be more like $200. NZTA have acknowledged there is a bug , but don't say anything about refunds.

E-mail from MAGNZ as follows:
MAGNZ exposes NZTA registration overcharge ahead of 1 July vehicle fee increases
Motorcycle Advocacy Group New Zealand says NZTA has acknowledged a bug in its online vehicle licensing system after motorists were apparently charged higher registration fees before those fees take effect on 1 July.

MAGNZ spokesperson Richard Tohu says the issue was discovered after motorcyclists reported NZTA’s online Transact system displaying a “changing” licensing fee and charging amounts that did not match the current fees.

“Motorcyclists started noticing something was wrong,” Mr Tohu says.

“They were trying to renew registration before 1 July, but the system appeared to be charging the higher post-1 July amounts early. That is not a rounding error. That is the public being charged money before it is lawfully due.”

NZTA has now acknowledged the issue.

In an email to MAGNZ, NZTA Senior Project Manager Malcolm McDermott said:

“This will definitely be a bug, we are investigating what is causing it and will get it resolved as quickly as we can.”

Mr Tohu says that acknowledgement raises immediate questions about refunds.

“If NZTA has charged people too much, then NZTA must identify every affected transaction and refund every affected motorist automatically. It is not good enough to wait for people to notice, complain, and ask for their money back.”

MAGNZ says the problem may not be limited to motorcycles.

“Transact is not a motorcycle-only system,” Mr Tohu says.

“All vehicle registrations are affected by the wider 1 July licensing and ACC levy changes. If the system logic has been wrong, NZTA needs to urgently confirm whether cars, trailers, heavy vehicles, motorcycles, and other vehicle classes have also been affected.”

Mr Tohu says the charging error lands at the worst possible time, as motorcyclists prepare for a major protest ride on 30 May against what MAGNZ says are unjustified and unlawful ACC levies being applied through motorcycle registration.

“Motorcyclists are already facing punishing ACC levy increases through their rego. We say those levies are unjustified, unsupported by proper risk evidence, and unlawful under the ACC scheme.”

“Now, on top of that, riders have found NZTA’s online payment system apparently charging some people early. That just reinforces why motorcyclists are angry and why we are riding on 30 May.”

MAGNZ says the 30 May protest ride is not just about motorcyclists paying more. It is about the integrity of the entire vehicle licensing system.

“Every motorist in New Zealand should be paying attention,” Mr Tohu says.

“Vehicle registration is being used to collect ACC levies and other charges from the public. When those charges increase, the system must be accurate, lawful, and transparent. If a higher fee starts on 1 July, it should not be collected before 1 July.”

Mr Tohu says NZTA also needs to explain what checks failed before the charging changes were pushed into the live online system.

“Government agencies keep talking about digital transformation, automation, and artificial intelligence. But if the result is a payment system that cannot correctly apply a fee start date, maybe we still need a few more humans in the room checking the work before motorists get billed.”

“This is exactly why public systems need accountability. Automation does not remove responsibility. If NZTA’s system took too much money, NZTA must fix it, explain it, and refund it.”

MAGNZ is calling on NZTA to urgently confirm:

When the Transact bug began.
Which vehicle classes were affected.
How many motorists were overcharged.
The total amount incorrectly collected.
Whether refunds will be automatic.
Whether affected motorists will be directly notified.
What checks failed before the new charging settings went live.
Whether NZTA will publicly apologise.
Mr Tohu says MAGNZ members have been told to take screenshots, keep receipts, and lodge formal complaints if they believe they have been charged incorrectly.

“People should not have to audit NZTA’s billing system for them, but right now affected motorists need to protect themselves.”

“If NZTA has the data, then NZTA has the responsibility. Refund the money. Do it automatically. And explain how this was allowed to happen.”


Nga Mihi & Kind Regards,
Richard Tohu - 0272219717
Chief Executive
Motorcycle Advocacy Group New Zealand (MAGNZ)

richard.tohu@magnz.org.nz





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[Gremlin]

My two over 650s will be liable for $1066 per year. assuming both get 12 month registration. (not gonna happen)
Worth noting this band is moving. Was (is) 651cc+ for the top band. Will become 751cc+.

I've been playing the rego hold game for a long time (3x bikes 900-1200cc), so won't be able to get any gains there...

[BMWST?]

are the people renewing and being overcharged for their rego trying to renew regos that expire after july 1?

[SaferRides]

are the people renewing and being overcharged for their rego trying to renew regos that expire after july 1?I'll try at the weekend... My rego has expired, so won't be an issue for me

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[SaferRides]

Worked OK for me, I pay the old rate. I expect people don't realise that your current rego must expire before 1 July.

Thought I might sneak in a Ride Forever course before 1 July but the cash back scheme ended last year.

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[Berries]

Not noticing any outrage (or even calm discussion) here on the new ACC levies to be applied from 1 July.
First I heard about it was just now reading this thread.

As always, we are fucked. Petitions do nothing apart from make you feel like you have contributed. A protest ride does nothing but piss off other road users and the inevitable crash simply proves the point.

I have never liked your ACC system. I have never made a motorcycle claim in the 30 years I have been riding in NZ and there is zero acknowledgement of that. As an experienced and evidently safe rider I don't believe that I should pay more for cover than the acne riddled 18 year old down the street with his lowered doof doof GTR just because some twat got wiped out lane splitting on the Auckland motorway or some helmetless dickhead looped his unregistered dirtbike on the way home from the pub.

My riding habits have changed recently, I no longer do a daily commute but do a relatively big trip every couple of weeks and I don't park where any wardens are going to be checking the rego label. I am starting to think I might put it on hold when it comes round to renewal time and ride it anyway.

What's the fine for that?

[F5 Dave]

Worth noting this band is moving. Was (is) 651cc+ for the top band. Will become 751cc+.

I've been playing the rego hold game for a long time (3x bikes 900-1200cc), so won't be able to get any gains there...
It's like they are out to get my money. I had a 675 just a tickle to big. Now I have a 765. How close to the line?

[Racing Dave]

I had a 675 just a tickle to big. Now I have a 765. How close to the line?

Not that it's a competition, but my '750' TransAlp is 755cc.

[pete376403]

Not that it's a competition, but my '750' TransAlp is 755cc.

My KLR is a 685 but I'n not going to tell them that

[pete376403]

First I heard about it was just now reading this thread.


My riding habits have changed recently, I no longer do a daily commute but do a relatively big trip every couple of weeks and I don't park where any wardens are going to be checking the rego label. I am starting to think I might put it on hold when it comes round to renewal time and ride it anyway.

What's the fine for that?

$200 and 20 points. Another $200 if no WoF. Expect to see this adjusted upward and redefined as tax evasion

[SaferRides]

$200 and 20 points. Another $200 if no WoF. Expect to see this adjusted upward and redefined as tax evasionI've put my bike on hold over winter for years. I've never been stopped for a WoF / rego / licence check, one breath test though! I'm careful on main roads with my speed. I will keep the rego current this winter as I expect the cops will be on the lookout.

Remember, doing a Ride Forever gold every 2 years gives you a 25% discount on all your bikes, and you might learn something.

But the system sucks. I'd like a second bike but even a 450 is just too expensive.

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[Berries]

Don't need 20 demerits, perhaps not the best time to buy a Hayabusa.

Have never wanted to play the MSAC/Rideforever bollocks game, I have done perfectly fine up to now without a hi-viz and top box. Lead story on the website is that it is Motorcycle Awareness Month this September 2025. Glad they are using my hard earned to keep up to date.

[jellywrestler]

Don't need 20 demerits, perhaps not the best time to buy a Hayabusa.

Have never wanted to play the MSAC/Rideforever bollocks game, I have done perfectly fine up to now without a hi-viz and top box. Lead story on the website is that it is Motorcycle Awareness Month this September 2025. Glad they are using my hard earned to keep up to date.

i approached them about the habit in wellington which i see has spread to lower hutt of painting over old road markings, not their job, suggested i contact the council. Ride Foever only have people to see whther the money they are spending is helping with stats, they dont do shot for us at all, and they still rape $30 odd bucks from each rego to go where?

[F5 Dave]

Issue is cameras will pick up and compare to database so tickets for those with no rego.

Next step is 3D print a plate of a bike in carpark with rego.

Not my bag but obvious.

[SaferRides]

Issue is cameras will pick up and compare to database so tickets for those with no rego.

Next step is 3D print a plate of a bike in carpark with rego.

Not my bag but obvious.

At the moment, there are restrictions on what can be done with ANPR. Not sure of the details, but others here may know.

[pete376403]

At the moment, there are restrictions on what can be done with ANPR. Not sure of the details, but others here may know.

Will be in here somewhere : https://www.police.govt.nz/sites/default/files/publications/automatic-number-plate-recognition-140626.pdf

[SaferRides]

Don't need 20 demerits, perhaps not the best time to buy a Hayabusa.


You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.

[pete376403]

You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.

GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.

[SaferRides]

GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.BMW GS 1250. It's got a few years to go!

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[jellywrestler]

You'd be very unlucky to get ticketed. My friend the GS rider leaves his bike on hold for 9 months a year and was stopped for speeding a few months ago. The cop never ran the plate, so he only got a speeding ticket. It was his 3rd speeding ticket in 2 years, so just as well!

I've had the same experience after being stopped. They are usually far more interested in checking your licence for some reason.

never ran the plate? they do ticketing on line now don't they, it must be standard and automatically done

[jellywrestler]

GS as in GS Suzuki? Probably old enough to get the cheap classic registration.

Or Gold Star????

[SaferRides]

never ran the plate? they do ticketing on line now don't they, it must be standard and automatically doneTickets have come in the post for years now. But they don't automatically add WoF and rego tickets if they're expired.

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[jellywrestler]

Tickets have come in the post for years now. But they don't automatically add WoF and rego tickets if they're expired.

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yes but on the roadside they do them on a device, and you'ds be pretty sure the plate automatically comes up with details, they'd be silly not too, and it's up to them what they chose to swipe

[rastuscat]

I'm careful on main roads with my speed.

That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.

[F5 Dave]

Or Gold Star????

Or Great Scott.
Ok I'm reaching. . .

[SaferRides]

Or Great Scott.
Ok I'm reaching. . .Here you go: Gelände/Straße

No prizes for guessing the meaning...

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[roogazza]

That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.

Yeah mate, don't nothin stoopid and the boys won't look at you. (riding on hold !!).:Police::laugh::confused::shifty:

[pete376403]

That's one of the unintended benefits of what they are doing.

If we are riding on hold, it's likely we will avoiu d doing stuff that draws attention from the federalis.

Thus reducing the speed we normally see by bikes on the open road.

But does it reduce the accident rate? Is there a box on the form that indicates registration status of a crashed vehicle?

[nerrrd]

In case anyone in Auckland wants to attend a useless protest...

Mass motorcycle convoy to ‘occupy’ Auckland Harbour Bridge in protest of ‘unfair’ ACC levies (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland/mass-motorcycle-convoy-to-occupy-auckland-harbour-bridge-in-protest-of-unfair-acc-levies/5T2EVM3L6VHH5FPDCY5ICPBQFY/)

I vaguely recall there was going to be some further differentiation in ACC rates (https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/levy-cuts-and-improvements-vehicle-risk-rating) depending on vehicle safety ratings around the same time as the motorcycle changes within the car fleet, funny how that didn't last.

[Berries]

But does it reduce the accident rate? Is there a box on the form that indicates registration status of a crashed vehicle?
Pretty sure there used to be a box on the data collected by the Police but it is no longer recorded, just whether the bike had a WOF. Interestingly, a full one third of motorbikes involved in fatal or serious crashes since 2020 did not have a current WOF. I imagine there will be some kind of correlation between WOF and rego but have no evidence to suggest that is the case.

You would expect ACC to collate that data somehow from their own records. You'd also hope that whatever they use is better quality than the national crash database.

IMO engine size on its own is in no way a determinant of crash risk so the whole ACC thinking is flawed from the outset. If you are going down that route you need to be bike specific and you need to take into account the riding history of the person involved but no, no, that's not how ACC works blah blah blah.

[F5 Dave]

In case anyone in Auckland wants to attend a useless protest...

Mass motorcycle convoy to ‘occupy’ Auckland Harbour Bridge in protest of ‘unfair’ ACC levies (https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/auckland/mass-motorcycle-convoy-to-occupy-auckland-harbour-bridge-in-protest-of-unfair-acc-levies/5T2EVM3L6VHH5FPDCY5ICPBQFY/)

I vaguely recall there was going to be some further differentiation in ACC rates (https://www.beehive.govt.nz/release/levy-cuts-and-improvements-vehicle-risk-rating) depending on vehicle safety ratings around the same time as the motorcycle changes within the car fleet, funny how that didn't last.
There was, my van shot up in rego price, then retreated.
There was an argument that it just taxed poor people who could not afford the latest Volvo. Quite rightly.
Smacked of total self awareness.
Of course, same people don't ride bikes. . .

[R650R]

Just got bill for new rego due soon. Thought from July onwards portion I would be billed the new amount. But it says $590 for 12 months.
This time govt incompetence is saving us money.

[Gremlin]

Just got bill for new rego due soon. Thought from July onwards portion I would be billed the new amount. But it says $590 for 12 months.
This time govt incompetence is saving us money.
The price increase hasn't come into effect, so renewing a rego due before July will be at the current rate.
If you try to renew one that expires after 1 July (like late June)... well, I have no idea how that will behave.

[Ntoxcated]

The NZTA (https://www.nzta.govt.nz/vehicles/licensing-rego/vehicle-fees/licensing-fees) website lists the prices based on whether the next license starts before or after 1 July so presumably buying early isn't going to help.

I usually put mine on hold for June/July/August then register for 9 months. But in this case, it was cheaper to buy for 12 months at the old rate than 9 at the new.

[SaferRides]

The price increase hasn't come into effect, so renewing a rego due before July will be at the current rate.
If you try to renew one that expires after 1 July (like late June)... well, I have no idea how that will behave.I expect their computer system can't cope with anything more complicated. Rego on the R1 expired in early May but I'm reluctant to pay for a full 12 months as I'm thinking of taking it off the road for a while and sorting out a few issues.

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[rastuscat]

Just put a year on the S1000XR. $590 and some cents.

I don't agree with the system, but I've largely been a hyper compliant lemming most of my life. C'est la vie.