Just when you think people can't get any more stupid...

[Ms Piggy]

While my bike is off the road I've been getting a shuttle that goes from Wgtn Hospital to Kenepuru Hospital. Today when being driven in the comfort of the van, squished up against the window, I saw a young guy riding a scooter with NO HELMET!! :weird: At first I thought well ok maybe he's just riding it from near the hospital to Wgtn High or Massey Uni, a bit cheeky but meh...but noooooo, I saw him on the interesection of Vivian & Willis Streets!! WTF is up with that??!!

Then I saw a rider on an gorgeous blue SV650 riding on the motorway out to Porirua wearing a pair of chunky soled slip on shoes and thin suit pants! :gob:

:argh: Now I've seen some pretty stupid things in my time riders wearing jandals, shorts, a crappy jacket but no helmet and wearing shitty shoes riding on thr MW. Oh dear, oh dear. :mellow:

Btw - this was about 8.10am this morning, maybe the cops were too busy chasing the couched cusaders! http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=19235

[zadok]

While they get away with it they will think it is ok. Wait until they have an accident, then they will learn the hard way.

[enigma51]

See it often in Auckland!

[Scorpygirl]

While my bike is off the road I've been getting a shuttle that goes from Wgtn Hospital to Kenepuru Hospital. Today when being driven in the comfort of the van, squished up against the window, I saw a young guy riding a scooter with NO HELMET!! :weird: At first I thought well ok maybe he's just riding it from near the hospital to Wgtn High or Massey Uni, a bit cheeky but meh...but noooooo, I saw him on the interesection of Vivian & Willis Streets!! WTF is up with that??!!

Then I saw a rider on an gorgeous blue SV650 riding on the motorway out to Porirua wearing a pair of chunky soled slip on shoes and thin suit pants! :gob:

:argh: Now I've seen some pretty stupid things in my time riders wearing jandals, shorts, a crappy jacket but no helmet and wearing shitty shoes riding on thr MW. Oh dear, oh dear. :mellow:

Btw - this was about 8.10am this morning, maybe the cops were too busy chasing the couched cusaders! http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showthread.php?t=19235

A death wish maybe!!! :whistle:

[Jabez]

I know one person that now has one toe missing after wearing jandals......

[SlowHand]

I still dont know if that beats a guy with a full face helmet, gumboots, singlet and stubbies. It was a cold day if I remember right. HARDDDD!

[James Deuce]

I still dont know if that beats a guy with a full face helmet, gumboots, singlet and stubbies. It was a cold day if I remember right. HARDDDD!

Yeah hard alright, but blimmin' stubbies cut off the circulation to your legs when you sit down, so he wasn't feeling the cold.

[Rashika]

alrighty, how about a young guy on a Red GN125? or 250 (not sure which), doing some stupid changing lanes stuff beside me, then infront of me, no decent gear, no gloves, very irratic speed and very close to car in front and then to top it all off....
he decides to undertake a huge doubledecker bus, on the inside of the left hand lane, down Blenheim road for locals, and there aint even parking spaces along that bit, probably only a metre between him and oblivian ...fuckin idiot...I was gobsmacked and so was the bus driver. he braked andmoved as far to the right as he could...betcha all the car drivers around thought "fuckin idiot motorcyclists" and me thinking "fucking moron giving us all bad name" :argh:

[SARGE]

A death wish maybe!!! :whistle:


i have ridden several times( most of my time on bikes) with no helmet ( helmets are not compulsory in many states..) but NEVER on a motorway and never when i knew i was going to be riding hard.

i personally dont have a problem with the no helmet thing.. i DO have a problem with the no helmet thing in Auckland conditions ( stupid cagers, shit roads and a different season every 100 metres)

Stupidity is it's own cure

[MOTOXXX]

i know what you mean.
i was going around the basin yesterday and a guy on a gsxr was in shorts and tshirt. i quite often see a zxr around wellington with no gloves and a wife beater on (tank top)

:nono:

[curious george]

Yeah hard alright, but blimmin' stubbies cut off the circulation to your legs when you sit down, so he wasn't feeling the cold.
You'd like this then.....Go the Stubbies! (http://www.curiousgeorge.geek.nz/KiwiBiker/Stubbies.mpg)

[James Deuce]

You'd like this then.....Go the Stubbies! (http://www.curiousgeorge.geek.nz/KiwiBiker/Stubbies.mpg)

Bloody brilliant mate, thanks!

[SlowHand]

Yeah hard alright, but blimmin' stubbies cut off the circulation to your legs when you sit down, so he wasn't feeling the cold.

I wouldnt know Jim2, I never wear those things, I only own boxers and they are longer than some stubbies I've almost been persuaded to wear. :mellow:

[John]

i ride to work with a helmet, crashed 3 times without gear - and I'm still normal.??

[SPORK]

There's this dick at school (exchange student from SA) that wears only a helmet. Saw him wearing shorts, tshirt and jandels one day! Oh yeah, he rides an RG150. Doesn't deserve it I say!

[Ixion]

This is probably not the place to mention the thousands of miles I've ridden without any "gear". Not even a helmet.

Wonderful, the way that modern youff believe in the magical properties of "gear"; and the inferiority and sub humanness of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "gear" religion.

[John]

This is probably not the place to mention the thousands of miles I've ridden without any "gear". Not even a helmet.

Wonderful, the way that modern youff believe in the magical properties of "gear"; and the inferiority and sub humanness of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "gear" religion.
yay that man.

[Rashika]

This is probably not the place to mention the thousands of miles I've ridden without any "gear". Not even a helmet.

Wonderful, the way that modern youff believe in the magical properties of "gear"; and the inferiority and sub humanness of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "gear" religion.
yeah but... the 'modern youff' are travelling at twice the speeds and have twice the traffic/idiots to cope with than when i first started driving...and i aint even 40 yet :msn-wink:
personally i dont give a shit what anyone else wears on a bike...natural selection will work its magic there... i know what makes me feel a little more secure, and if it is having decent gear then it works for me :niceone:

[Ms Piggy]

This is probably not the place to mention the thousands of miles I've ridden without any "gear". Not even a helmet.

Wonderful, the way that modern youff believe in the magical properties of "gear"; and the inferiority and sub humanness of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "gear" religion.
I know that some are of the opinion that "no gear" or "little gear" is your choice but, the thing is it's not just you that's affected if you come off and get seriously hurt and I tend to think it's always best to be prepared for the worse case scenario. I mean if nothing else b/c cagers can be so unpredicatable I think wearing as little gear as possible is just asking for trouble, ya know Murphy's Law and all that. And I know from personal experience that as I was sliding down the Motorway on my belly the other week, I was definitely glad that I had all my gear on.

[Sniper]

As sarge said, "Stupidity is its own cure". I remember the day I was riding down the road in Blenheim and the mudgaurd fell off and jammed the front wheel. I was only wearing school shorts and top. The result was me with a broken collar bone, missing a fair bit of skin and ruining a brand new uniform. The CG was fine, leaked a bit of petrol but thats it. (Pity they don't build them bikes like they used to)

I would never ride in a uniform again :whistle:

[Stevo]

As sarge said, "Stupidity is its own cure". I remember the day I was riding down the road in Blenheim and the mudgaurd fell off and jammed the front wheel. I was only wearing school shorts and top. The result was me with a broken collar bone, missing a fair bit of skin and ruining a brand new uniform. The CG was fine, leaked a bit of petrol but thats it. (Pity they don't build them bikes like they used to)

I would never ride in a uniform again :whistle:
Your jeans are so much better eh mate! :killingme

[Sniper]

Your jeans are so much better eh mate! :killingme

No comment........ I do have leathers on the way though. :niceone:

[Stevo]

This is probably not the place to mention the thousands of miles I've ridden without any "gear". Not even a helmet.

Wonderful, the way that modern youff believe in the magical properties of "gear"; and the inferiority and sub humanness of anyone who doesn't subscribe to the "gear" religion.
I ride offroad every day on farm bikes with no helmet. Buuuut. No way on the road. My face is ugly nuff without munting it further on a piece of bitumen!

I once heard an (older) American motorcyclist say that "the only thing dumber than the law allowing people helmetless, is those who choose to do so."

[F5 Dave]

So here we go again

Am I my brother’s keeper? What right do we have to impose our ideals upon an individual?

But what if my brother was a moron?
(He wasn’t, he always wore gear, but we’ll leave him out for the point of the philosophical discussion).

I’ve crashed racing & have helmets with deep scratches along the face shield/chin. I’ve ground leather, damaged gloves boots & gotten bruises & broken bones even through armour. Bear in mind that I race buckets at speeds usually far less than most people travel on the motorway & in fact a lot of the time has been at suburban road speeds on comparatively safe smooth tracks. Not chipseal with cars, gutters & lampposts.

I have little respect for anyone who may question that this gear helps.

Question: This bruiser guy is going to punch you a few times. Leathers & helmet or jeans & T-shirt? Thought so.

The only time legislation has helped to lower the road-toll was the introduction of compulsory seatbelts. Car drivers chose not to wear them before, but forcing them to really did help. I am uneasy with this (& the connotations ), but the average person must be a bit dim or just thinks it won't happen to them.

When I was involved in rider training we used to ask:
If you know you were going to be involved in an accident today, what would you wear? Students would list all the usual.

The point is that most accidents happen within something like 10k from home on short trips, so saving your leathers for touring or sport riding is missing the point. Also most injuries these days involve lower body. Largely I suggest, as many don’t wear more than a jacket & helmet.

So am I my brother’s keeper?

Well I think I should yell in his ear a bit!