Jade vs Herd of cows.

[Velox]

Thought I better do the obligatory post.....


I've taken out possums, hedgehogs, a duck, a hen and various other feathered friends on the bike before, but I topped it last night with a herd of cows.

The Jade's instrument panel's smashed to smitherines and I've got cruiser bars now (bent right back) and a few other things, but could be a lot worse. I've just got a slightly stuffed (but not broken) left hand at the mo and a few aches and bruises but that's not too major either. Won't be riding for a few days at least though.

The neighbour's cows had got out (again!!!) and were all waiting for me in formation as I came around a corner onto the straight. No street lights or runoff area on our road. Found pieces of cow (blood and fur) on the bike, but they just hooned off, the mongrels. Could have been a few nice bits of steak if they'd hung around.



Just a bit of entertainment to brighten up everyone's day. Even though it wasn't the most enjoyable way to spend a Sun night, it is a bit of a laugh. Apart from the condition of my beautiful wee bicycle. :violin:

[Ixion]

Oh dear. Poor Jade. Up against a foe just too big for it. Very glad you are more or less OK. It's a worry though - I've noted before that Ma Nature seems to have declared war on bikers - now she's sending in the heavy cavalry.

[matthewt]

Sorry to hear that. Hope you're back on the road soon.

Should get your neighbour to fix up the mighty Jade since he's responsible to keep his stock under control.

[Mooch]

Glad you surived hitting a cow. Must have given you quite a fright. Take care !.

[jazbug5]

Well, I guess you just had to be creative for your first bin... none of this 'lowsiding on gravel on a corner' nancy shit for you, girly.

When you put the new bars on, what about tipping them with matador blades?

(PS Really glad you're ok, obviously..!)

[Zapf]

Thought I better do the obligatory post.....


I've taken out possums, hedgehogs, a duck, a hen and various other feathered friends on the bike before, but I topped it last night with a herd of cows.

The Jade's instrument panel's smashed to smitherines and I've got cruiser bars now (bent right back) and a few other things, but could be a lot worse. I've just got a slightly stuffed (but not broken) left hand at the mo and a few aches and bruises but that's not too major either. Won't be riding for a few days at least though.

The neighbour's cows had got out (again!!!) and were all waiting for me in formation as I came around a corner onto the straight. No street lights or runoff area on our road. Found pieces of cow (blood and fur) on the bike, but they just hooned off, the mongrels. Could have been a few nice bits of steak if they'd hung around.



Just a bit of entertainment to brighten up everyone's day. Even though it wasn't the most enjoyable way to spend a Sun night, it is a bit of a laugh. Apart from the condition of my beautiful wee bicycle. :violin:

Ouch ... glad you are ok. :sweatdrop

[dangerous]

Thought I better do the obligatory post.....

Just a bit of entertainment to brighten up everyone's day. Even though it wasn't the most enjoyable way to spend a Sun night
nicley writen up V, bugger it all but hey coulda been a shit load worse..... hey why dident ya jst duck down and ride that wee bike of yours under the beasties? (coulda squezed a teat on the way through) :spudwave:


Should get your neighbour to fix up the mighty Jade since he's responsible to keep his stock under control.
Bloody good point... he is liabale as far as I know, he should fix the Jade up beter than new, fuk him theres no excuse for loose animals :drinkup:

[Two Smoker]

Glad your not to badly hurt :niceone: Maybe its a sign to sell the jade and get a 600???

[TonyB]

Shit Jade, no point in buying a lotto ticket now as you've just used up all your luck. Glad to hear your fine.

And yep the cocky is liable. Unfortunately if you dig deeper you'll probably find that some dickheads are getting their kicks by letting the cows out at night and waiting to see what happens. It's not that uncommon.

[SixPackBack]

Bugger .......Glad your o.k Velox *Will say a prayer haha*

[James Deuce]

Bloody hell! I hope that isn't one of your 33 Weazel lives used up.

Matthewt and Dangerous are right, as much as I know you'd rather let it lie, get the bugger to fix the Jade. I hope you rang the cops too. It is quite important in this case that you do, especially if you've actually hurt that hand. There are worse things than breaking bones, soft tissue damage in your hands being one of them.

If you haven't rung, do it now. That way at least the courts will be able to get some money to fix the Jade.

[Motu]

Solid things are cows,not much gets through them.They are also very nosey and not at all flighty,you run across them in all sorts of places off road,any other animal will run away,cows seem attracted to bikes....maybe the have a crush on farmers? Up until a few years ago you would be liable for damage to stock,even if wandering through open gates or neglected fences - guess you can blame the stupid Goverment for the changes there that put the liability on the farmer.

[Sniper]

Bugger mate, you have bigger balls than me taking on a cow (PT)

Glad you are OK though.

[MOTOXXX]

dang!
good to see you are ok velox.

[skelstar]

Yeah good to hear you are ok V. Hope your hand heals up and you sort out something with the cockie.

[Paul in NZ]

Bugger... Hope you are OK today and I agree that you should report it etc as it was not your fault etc etc. Bastard of the thing to pick out at night and the potential for serious harm was there. Consider yourself lucky perhaps?

Please be more cowfull out there.... ;-)

Paul N

[MrMelon]

Doh that sux. I'd be out hamburger hunting right now if I were you.

[Bartman10]

I'm real sorry to hear that mate. Bugger.

I'm very pleased you're ok. I was a bit worried for a moment there - who would I duel with at track days?

I know that a set back like this won't throw you too much though, and I'm sure I'll hear that 250 screeming again soon!

If there's anything I can do to help don't be afraid to ask.

[Sparky Bills]

Good to hear your ok,
I hope your getting the owners of the cows to pay for repairs!??

They are responsible arent they??

[soundbeltfarm]

see the owner .
he will have a public liability for wandering stock and dogs on the road etc.
i dont know of any farmer around here that doesnt have it.

[Colapop]

Damn girl, you some sort of hardass? Cow is big and solid, Jade and Velox not. Lets not lose any KBers OK? Good you're pretty much ok tho'.

P.S. How's the cow doing?

[Hitcher]

Oh no, not cows! The poor things must have been terrified.

I thought you lived in Newtown or summat similar. I guess this event buggers that theory, unless there is something sinister about Wellington City's bovine bylaws of which I am blissfully unaware. More likely that you live in some udder place...

Anyway Velox, I hope you are not too traumatised, and sue the relevant cockie's arse under the provisions of his public liability insurance policy.

[DemonWolf]

Hope the hand heals right quickly... Not a nice thing to come across especially on a corner... Hope you get your bike fixed and back riding again.

=)

[Velox]

Cheers fellas. Haven't seen the said herd yet but there's one that's got a strip of skin about 3x10cm missing which I found on the road. I chucked it away but then realised how cool it would have been to tan it and wrap it around my handlebars! Oh well.

Don't want to hassle the farmer too much cause we're mates with him (lives right next door, small close-nit community) but something will def be said. The neighbours are all pretty pissed off. If the cows had been a car/bike I could have stopped in time cause I would have seen it without my lights being on it (around a corner) but cows are a diff story. I assume that all 'road users' are required to have lights at night?! <_<

Got the Jade going last night and I'll pick up some more bits for it today hopefully, just won't be totally legal until the instr panel gets semi-sorted.

[dhunt]

That's sucks mate,

At least it didn't write you or the bike off. Looks like your guardian angles had to put a bit of overtime in.

Don't let it distract you tooo much from your study though.

[Deano]

Cheers fellas. Haven't seen the said herd yet but there's one that's got a strip of skin about 3x10cm missing which I found on the road. I chucked it away but then realised how cool it would have been to tan it and wrap it around my handlebars! Oh well.


Now why does that not surprise me !! :killingme

Glad to hear you're ok.

[Aitch]

This is why anyone in business has public liability insurance. He can claim the cost of repairing your bike against his cover.

[Smorg]

Good to hear your ok..........lucky it didnt have a set of horns pointing at you.
I hit a turkey on SH22 on saturday!!! Never seen so many frucken feathers :whocares:

[skelstar]

Perhaps he could 'repair' it into an R6?

[inlinefour]

Cheers fellas. Haven't seen the said herd yet but there's one that's got a strip of skin about 3x10cm missing which I found on the road. I chucked it away but then realised how cool it would have been to tan it and wrap it around my handlebars! Oh well.

Don't want to hassle the farmer too much cause we're mates with him (lives right next door, small close-nit community) but something will def be said. The neighbours are all pretty pissed off. If the cows had been a car/bike I could have stopped in time cause I would have seen it without my lights being on it (around a corner) but cows are a diff story. I assume that all 'road users' are required to have lights at night?! <_<

Got the Jade going last night and I'll pick up some more bits for it today hopefully, just won't be totally legal until the instr panel gets semi-sorted.

The animals owner is responsible for all damages to your bike and also should be legally in the shit if they are allowing their animals to wander out onto a public road. Sounds like this has been an ongoing problem? And if so, they animal owners have not really done much to rectify the situation. I guess some people need to actually learn the hard way? I'd be bailing the neighbour up really good over this, if I was in your shoes.

[Slingshot]

Sounds like the cow was taking her revenge for all the motorcyclists that wear leathers.

[Charlie]

Hey Velox - what a freaky experience. I've seen a car hit a cow before and the damage to the car was nasty; cows are pretty solid things! So glad both you and the bike came out ok! Agree with the many posts about getting the farmer to get the bike fixed. If he's a mate maybe when you tell him about it he'll offer to asisst you and the Jade in some way. If it were me I'd feel so terrible I'd be falling over myself to put it right.
Hope your out riding again soon!

[poorbastard]

Shit bad way to end a weekend. Good to see your ok. Hope you get your bike all sorted out quickly.

[nudemetalz]

Pleased to hear you're okay. Hope you get the wee machine back on the road soon.

:)

[Pixie]

Oh dear. Poor Jade. Up against a foe just too big for it. Very glad you are more or less OK. It's a worry though - I've noted before that Ma Nature seems to have declared war on bikers - now she's sending in the heavy cavalry.
Bovinalry :hitcher:

[crashe]

shitting cows.....

Thank goodness you are ok.... and the bike is repairable.

Yep the others are correct - the farmer is liable to pay for all damages done to your bike... and replacement of your helmet and gears if they were damaged.

It don't matter if he is a friend.. it was his cows out on the road, therefore he pays up.

[Ixion]

Bovinalry :hitcher:

Chuckle. That actually occured to me after I'd posted. I wondered if anyone would pick up on it. Congratulations, you win the pedant of the week award. :niceone:

[Pixie]

Chuckle. That actually occured to me after I'd posted. I wondered if anyone would pick up on it. Congratulations, you win the pedant of the week award. :niceone:
What's the award?
A gorilla?

[Ixion]

Good to hear your ok..........lucky it didnt have a set of horns pointing at you.
I hit a turkey on SH22 on saturday!!! Never seen so many frucken feathers :whocares:

Arrggh. Another birdy attack on 22. How many is that (birds and beasties) in teh last month 7? 8 ?

[Ixion]

What's the award?
A gorilla?

No, silly. Obviously not a gorilla. An orang-utan , naturally. Where else would a pedant be most happy than in an infinitely large library. (Just DON'T use the 'M' word)

[sels1]

Sounds like the cow was taking her revenge for all the motorcyclists that wear leathers.

I can see a Gary Larson cartoon here......


Glad to hear you're OK Weas

[riffer]

Jeez Louise!

Finally found something to slow you down a touch. :pinch:

Glad to hear you're okay and the Jade lives to fight another day.

[Sniper]

To confirm what the others are saying

As quoted from a law firm website :

It is important for farmers to understand their duties and responsibilities in respect of stock on the road. Farmers are potentially liable for damage or loss that may result if an accident occurs.
WANDERING STOCK

Since the introduction of the Animals Law Reform Act 1989 (“the Act”) road users have been able to sue farmers and seek compensation for damage caused by wandering stock.

The Act introduces a statutory definition of negligence. It provides that farmers must take reasonable care to see that damage is not caused by stock straying on to the road. The Act stipulates that when considering whether reasonable care has been taken matters that should be considered include:

1. The common local practice – in relation to fencing and other measures to prevent animals from straying on to roads.
2. The measures taken to warn road users of stock on the road.

Therefore the measures a farmer must take are dependent on the locality and general farming practices in their area. If stock do stray on to the road and the farmer does not take reasonable care, the farmer could be liable for any resulting loss.


Hopefully that helps

[cowpoos]

Solid things are cows,not much gets through them.They are also very nosey and not at all flighty,you run across them in all sorts of places off road,any other animal will run away,cows seem attracted to bikes....maybe the have a crush on farmers? Up until a few years ago you would be liable for damage to stock,even if wandering through open gates or neglected fences - guess you can blame the stupid Goverment for the changes there that put the liability on the farmer.

Cows are atracted to motorbike because when the get shifted to more feed...a farmer turns up on a motorbike.... so cow thinks....oooohhh....thats the food noise [motorbike engine/exhuast noise] and rocks on up... :rockon:

yes farmer is liable....has been since the 70's....law requires that fences are of a standard to "keep stock in" .... and 99% of farmers have public liability insurance....so he will most likly be insured for a claim...is the farmer aware that u hit the stock?

[SDU]

Shit, I'm glad you're gonna be ok.
Even though the farmer is a neighbour & friend it is as the others said, get them to pay for your bike & helmet & gear, they should be insured for it. It can be done in a way that you can still be neighbourly.
And make sure they fence the cows in properly before someone gets seriously hurt/killed.
He can't be wanting his stock to be damaged /killed either.

All the best
SDU

[madboy]

Louise, glad to hear you're okay. I can sympathise with you on the hand injury, they're quite delicate things to repair and it's not an overnight thing. Knowing your personality I can understand why you won't be having a "legal" debate with the neighbour. Money is not the most important thing in these situations.

As Slingshot alluded to - do you see the irony in purchasing some new leather pants a few weeks ago, and now the cow strikes back?

So ya gonna be up for TRTNR or do us boys on bigger bikes get a chance to look good this week?

[Hitcher]

Herd of chickens?

[SPman]

Hmmm 500+ KG of cow......250KG of Velox and Jade....doesnt seem very equal...
Glad you're OK

[Sniper]

Herd of chickens?
Why? Why would you say that? :eek5:

[Lou Girardin]

Cows are atracted to motorbike because when the get shifted to more feed...a farmer turns up on a motorbike.... so cow thinks....oooohhh....thats the food noise [motorbike engine/exhuast noise] and rocks on up... :rockon:


Maybe they could be trained to recognise the sound of a .308 as that 'keep off the road noise'.

[F5 Dave]

Glad to hear you are ok. Watch that hand, we have a guy here that thought it would get better so didn't go to the docs straight away & he's back here today after being off for nigh on 2 months.

[sunhuntin]

that coulda been a whole pile worse. good to hear your alright though!! if it had been cow shit your run into i imagine the damages would have been bigger to both you and the bike. hows your hand feeling?

cows are tricky things...quite often run into em grazing along the side of the road around here...when ever that happens i keep my speed down and stay as close to the middle as i can [quiet road, few cars]

[badlieutenant]

good to hear you are ok weasel, make sure you get the hand/wrist sorted. As jaz can tell you what a pain those injuries can be long term if not cared for now.

If you need a hand with the bike repairs at all give us a yell.

can you convince the farmer that your bike is a write off and that its a gsxr600 ??

[Jonty]

Glad you are ok, I hate to think what would have happened if you had been unleashed on a 600!!! I would imagine the vet may have had to be called to remove a wheel from a cow's backside :whistle:

[GSVR]

Is it just my imagination or are there more KBers having accidents at the moment.

Your lucky you didn't hit the cow at speed. Several years back a local guy hit a cow and didn't live to talk about it.

[cowboyz]

believe it or not I did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago! I hit a single black cow that was standing in the middle of the road and I didnt see it at all. I didnt even brake and hit it at 100k and took some damage on my thumbs but rest of me was/is ok. My bike was a writeoff.

I was farming for 16 years before the accident (only gave it up this past June) and I was always under the impression that if my stock was on the road and caused an accident I was liable.

After my accident I learnt this is not actually the case. In fact, in order for the farmer to be liable he has to have shown that he has been careless in not keeping his stock on his property. So if the roadside fences *look* ok and the farmer *says* the gate was closed then he is not liable.

On the flipside, the guy who owned the cow I hit had a very comprehensive insurance policy which I claimed against and they decided to payout "in spite of the fact their client is not legally responible for the accident" I just went .. whatever, call it what you want as long as I get paid.

I have said for years and still stand by it that if you own an animal, any animal, and it wanders onto the road causing an accident then you should be liable. Be it a cow or a dog or a donkey, I dont care.

Hope your hands come right. I still have trouble with my left thumb causing pain in the cold weather.

[2_SL0]

Glad to hear your in one piece.

[GSVR]

believe it or not I did exactly the same thing a couple of months ago! I hit a single black cow that was standing in the middle of the road and I didnt see it at all. I didnt even brake and hit it at 100k and took some damage on my thumbs but rest of me was/is ok. My bike was a writeoff.

I was farming for 16 years before the accident (only gave it up this past June) and I was always under the impression that if my stock was on the road and caused an accident I was liable.

After my accident I learnt this is not actually the case. In fact, in order for the farmer to be liable he has to have shown that he has been careless in not keeping his stock on his property. So if the roadside fences *look* ok and the farmer *says* the gate was closed then he is not liable.

On the flipside, the guy who owned the cow I hit had a very comprehensive insurance policy which I claimed against and they decided to payout "in spite of the fact their client is not legally responible for the accident" I just went .. whatever, call it what you want as long as I get paid.

I have said for years and still stand by it that if you own an animal, any animal, and it wanders onto the road causing an accident then you should be liable. Be it a cow or a dog or a donkey, I dont care.

Hope your hands come right. I still have trouble with my left thumb causing pain in the cold weather.


Or a boyracer takes out a section of your frence and then pisses off without telling anyone to aviod having to pay for it.

Your bike was for sale on Trademe right. Kawasaki 250 twin if I recall.

[dangerous]

Don't want to hassle the farmer too much cause we're mates with him (lives right next door, small close-nit community)
Would you say the same thing if you were missing limbs in hospital... or dead??? no I think not, sorry Velox but its no time to go super duper christian.... :niceone: you could have very easly been a dead Velox at this point, the farmer needs to learn that his cows need to be looked after better.
Sort it out with him and be sure he pays up for every thing. (dont really think the coppers need to be draged into it tho)

[Velox]

Bovinalry :hitcher:
Heh - I was actually thinking calvery.

Cheers Sniper for the info.

The neighbour did come over and have a chat at the time but it was to see if my hand was broken (he's a doc) rather than about the cows being out on the road. I'll sort that out soonish though.

Is it just my imagination or are there more KBers having accidents at the moment.
Nah - that seems to be said on a regular basis I reckon.


Lou - I was actually just thinking about an hour ago of getting out the .303 if I ever see them on the road again! :ar15:

[mikey]

bloody famres eh.

havnt seen ole COWPOOS posting his sympathyes in here.......

[cowboyz]

Or a boyracer takes out a section of your frence and then pisses off without telling anyone to aviod having to pay for it.

Highly unlikely. Coming from a lifetime of farming experience I looked over my stock at least every 12 hours. The cows are not *always* on the boundary fence. To have a boyracer take out a fence and then have your cows bugger off and not notice would be very unfortuntate. I surpose stranger things have happened but at the end of the day I like the black and white theory. If you own stock then you should be insured. Pay the preimums and let your insurance company pay up. You own an animal - you pay - (or your insurance pays)



Your bike was for sale on Trademe right. Kawasaki 250 twin if I recall.

Yep. Thats the one. One of the best bikes I have owned. Definitely the most reliable bike I have ever owned. Took a cow to stop it.
It was one of the better things in the end as I managed to trade off the 250 to my current 600 with the insurance money. Good thing really.

[Skyryder]

Heh - I was actually thinking calvery.

Cheers Sniper for the info.

The neighbour did come over and have a chat at the time but it was to see if my hand was broken (he's a doc) rather than about the cows being out on the road. I'll sort that out soonish though.

Nah - that seems to be said on a regular basis I reckon.


Lou - I was actually just thinking about an hour ago of getting out the .303 if I ever see them on the road again! :ar15:

Sounds like fun for the local bikers. A ride, a shootup and a BBQ. Bugger and I just got rid of my firearms this week.


Skyryder

[MoFunthanmost]

Hope you and the jade recover swiftly!

you dont seem to have much luck moving around in the dark around your home eh? :devil2:

[Velox]

Hope you and the jade recover swiftly!

you dont seem to have much luck moving around in the dark around your home eh? :devil2:
Oi! :kick:

I think this one's funnier than the other incident though. Who rides into a herd of cows really? It's a bit like throwing a shoe.

[inlinefour]

I'd be wanting to sort it out with the cow owner, one way or another :calm:

[Zapf]

How is the Jaded cow incident coming along?

[Velox]

How is the Jaded cow incident coming along?
Well we finally got back on the road tonight, but we're both still mongrels at the mo - the Jade's got an empty, taped on instrument panel casing and a pretty mangled light still (and a few other things), and I'm having real issues changing down gears. Changing up's ok cause I don't need to use the clutch but it's really painful and difficult pulling it in to change down. Not fun at all.

[Zapf]

Well we finally got back on the road tonight, but we're both still mongrels at the mo - the Jade's got an empty, taped on instrument panel casing and a pretty mangled light still (and a few other things), and I'm having real issues changing down gears. Changing up's ok cause I don't need to use the clutch but it's really painful and difficult pulling it in to change down. Not fun at all.

I recently ordered some instrument casings for the CB400 and it was around $100 for the set... mate might be buying a few thing direct from Japan if so want me to check out prices?

[Velox]

I recently ordered some instrument casings for the CB400 and it was around $100 for the set... mate might be buying a few thing direct from Japan if so want me to check out prices?
That would be really cool actually! If the casing also includes the white bits and inner mounts - I dunno. I've managed to glue the outer shell of the casing together but the inner casing bits that the actual dials sit on has exploded into 43 million shards of white plastic. Looks like a lot of work might be coming up!

The only thing is that I really doubt they'd find anything because my bike's a real mongrel to identify and track down bits for. Allthough I guess it's very diff in Japan. It's a 1991 Honda Jade 250, which is a CBF MC23 in theory but even the bike shops down here in Wgtn find it hard to identify bits for it. Shares a lot of Spada and CBR parts though.

But yeah - thanks mate! Only if it's not a huge hassle though - the Jade's a slimy little character to track down.

[Zapf]

Can you supply the model number as well? it should be under the seat or something.

[Biff]

Just saw this thread. Glad you're ok(ish) mate.

[Velox]

Thanks Biff - we're back on the road in a pretty much sorted state now!


Zapf - I can't get the number from the frame cause it's the wrong one (stolen in Japan and the original number was ground off and replaced with a new (wrong) number), but it is a MC23 at least. If it really places hard to get then don't worry about it too much.

[transformerboy]

i hit the biggst moth last nite almost took my head off! argh hows the jade got anymore parts for it yet? c u fri!!!! bang bang

[VasalineWarrior]

Cant wait to see you ride tommorrow bud-just dont become the 5th learner that ive written off!

[Jase W]

You should be able to change down aswell as up without the clutch fairly easily... i do it on the gsxr occasionally, and was doing it on the cbr loaner after i pulled some muscles in my hand after too much frantic clutch use while my muscles were all cold (hurt like crap, man!).