27 Nov Bucket Wellington Kaitoke track

[F5 Dave]

Waahoo, back at Kaitoke!

We've lost general motors to a developer (damn housing) so best we make use of this track while we have it.

Have to make sure we get as many people as possible so if there are some hiding in garages you know about, shout them up.

[MSTRS]

Waahoo, back at Kaitoke!

We've lost general motors to a developer (damn housing) so best we make use of this track while we have it.

Have to make sure we get as many people as possible so if there are some hiding in garages you know about, shout them up.
29 is a Tuesday ????

[F5 Dave]

Not anymore it's not.[ahem]
:blip:

[Sketchy_Racer]

yea, i hope we get a decent amount of people there because this is the second to last meeting we are going to be having there that is alrady paid for (i think vic club paid for it) then its going to cost us $1000 each time we want to use the track which is crazy!! so as dave said pull out ya bikes travel from near or far and come have a ball!!!! :)

[Colapop]

Waahoo, back at Kaitoke!

We've lost general motors to a developer (damn housing) so best we make use of this track while we have it.

Have to make sure we get as many people as possible so if there are some hiding in garages you know about, shout them up.
I don't have a bucket but I would like to come along - directions, maps, all that stuff would be good please.

[Coyote]

Wish I had a bike to race. Might come along to watch

[Sketchy_Racer]

on the way into the rumitakas you will see a sign lascom raceway- it goes down a gravel road ill look for some maps :)

[Sketchy_Racer]

and ill be happy to lend my bike out if people would like to take it for a spin :niceone:

[Ivan]

Shit general motors is my favourite track in a way I always have good runs there my bike has never broken down there,

[Skunk]

Hmmm, a little more nylon and I'll be there.

RG100 - bring those brakes with ya.

[Sketchy_Racer]

hey skunk-

i will bring along an asortment of wheels brakes etc for you to take a choice of cause i dont know exactly which you want :)

Cheers, Glenn

[Bert]

Waahoo, back at Kaitoke!

We've lost general motors to a developer (damn housing) so best we make use of this track while we have it.

Have to make sure we get as many people as possible so if there are some hiding in garages you know about, shout them up.

Bugger about losing GM - where to next ?????

I'm in, sounds like a great reason to come back down to the big smoke.

one problem : how much do we need to nylon ? could someone post a photo or something. so I can sort out mine.

cheers

[dangerous]

best we make use of this track while we have it.
Hey Dave...... any of you lot from up there going to be comming down/over for the Port Nelson st race? bloody hope so :drinkup:

[Sketchy_Racer]

hey Bert...

as for nylon-you will need to cover any metal surfaces that can come in contact with the surface and put some plastic wine corks in your bar ends.

its pretty easy, just lay your bike on its side and move it around looking for places that come in contact :)

Cheers, Glenn

[F5 Dave]

Plastic wine corks don’t really cut it, they come straight out. But a bit of nylon rod turned down with a lathe can be made by any engineer pretty easily. Then just other parts that may touch down in a crash, gear levers etc. The odd skateboard wheel type of thing. Pretty easy when you spend a while thinking about it.

Port st races are an expensive travel for a mixed event on a longer track & I only have a 50 at present. For a full buckets day (or pref 2) on a kart track then I will be keen.

Blenhiem?????????????

[Bert]

Plastic wine corks don’t really cut it, they come straight out. But a bit of nylon rod turned down with a lathe can be made by any engineer pretty easily. Then just other parts that may touch down in a crash, gear levers etc. The odd skateboard wheel type of thing. Pretty easy when you spend a while thinking about it.


Cheers guys

So Normal bar ends (Aluminium) wont be ok ? :argh:
rest of it shouldn't to much of a problem.

B

[Ivan]

Yeah we need to get our bikes Nyloned good so we dont wreck the track, It has a new surface all rounnd as well so you want to keep it in as gooda condit as possi

[F5 Dave]

Sorry the kart guys make us jump through hoops to make sure no damage occurs on the track. The PN track is now not in use as they won't let us.

So plastic covered the bikes are. Doesn't take too long & small price to pay for a brilliant track. Just lie the bike over & see what touches. Sticky out axles or pipes you can get a block of nylon or acetal & counter bore it & screw it on, or some use exhaust clamps with nylon on the other side. I have a axle end that threads onto the extra bit of the axle & screws on hard.

Footpegs, counter bore some holes & bolt on the bottom. I have cheap after market ones with holes in the ends & I got some rod turned up to press fit in the end like bar ends. Find some off cut & take a couple of things to the local lathe guy while there's heaps of time.

[diesel pig]

Blenhiem?????????????

Unfortuntly our Blenhiem contact used to get access to the track by jacking it up with the old fellow who looked after the track, But he as since pasted away
and the local kart president is proving hard to track down. :no:

[Ivan]

Is Palmerston North even running for there guys any more if not is it for sale and a community of bucket guys buy it and thrash the living necks out of it :done:

[Sketchy_Racer]

ok- even i didnt understand that one ivan lol!!!

[Ivan]

I mean is the track still alive or is just sitting doing nothing any more if so a club should buy it or does anyone know werew there any tracks around

[Bert]

I mean is the track still alive or is just sitting doing nothing any more if so a club should buy it or does anyone know werew there any tracks around

its still in use on the last Sunday of the month. though it is getting tough for them to run with all the new housing developments, same as most tracks in the country.
The Palmerston North kart club has never really liked the buckets on the track even 10 years ago our club had to jump through some serious hoops to get out there.

Thanks ivan and f5 dave for your help. I've sorted out the footpegs (did it years ago) the rest shouldn't be to much of the drama, I'll just dig out the welder and sort some lugs and stuff. Dave do you still have that very sexy RG50 ? is it still on the pace these days ? I've been tring to get hold of Ray Wilson and see if he keen on coming down as well.

Berty

[F5 Dave]

The RG is a bit like grandpa’s axe, (Here's the version before in pic), but yes I still race it. Haven’t seen Ray for a while but yeah try get hold of him, last time I saw him was Wanganui street races, think he was still carpet laying in PN. Did you buy the RG/TS from him?

If so I built that. Well some of it. Actually the pic doesn't look like it, Ray's had spoked wheels.

Where are the rest of the PN Bucket guys? Maybe they just got sick of Shane & Lusty's bickering?

[F5 Dave]

Unfortuntly our Blenhiem contact used to get access to the track by jacking it up with the old fellow who looked after the track, But he as since pasted away
and the local kart president is proving hard to track down. :no:

Oh that's a shame, that old couple were real nice.

[Bert]

The RG is a bit like grandpa’s axe, (Here's the version before in pic), but yes I still race it. Haven’t seen Ray for a while but yeah try get hold of him, last time I saw him was Wanganui street races, think he was still carpet laying in PN. Did you buy the RG/TS from him?

If so I built that. Well some of it. Actually the pic doesn't look like it, Ray's had spoked wheels.

Where are the rest of the PN Bucket guys? Maybe they just got sick of Shane & Lusty's bickering?

The RG was finished about the same time as Ray got your old one (arou nd94-95), It used to be bright green ( with fairings ). I stopped racing it in 97 as I was at uni and couldn't find the time. :drinkup:

As for the rest of the old boys I have no idea, I've only just moved back to Palmerston / NZ and slowly catching up with people.

Cheers
B

[Ivan]

Ray Wilson races a TZ125 he stopped and helped me when I was dazzed and knocked around from my big street stock crash

[Bert]

Ray Wilson races a TZ125 he stopped and helped me when I was dazzed and knocked around from my big street stock crash

a real great guy.
back at the end of the 90's he was one of the top riders up here until he broke his knee. bloody fast on a 125gp what i remember.

[Ivan]

Yeah he is an awsome guy he didnt come back this season but raced the final vic round of 04 and he was fast stopped in the middle of the track helped me out picked my bike up and I rode around in Lala land made it somehow back to the pits but was told to see the ambulance which was a good thing but naughty me wasnt ment to race the next round cause of concusion but a week later I raced at General Motrs and did good I dont listen to DR's they tell me not to race so I raced with a Broken collarbone but this is getting way of subject I was wondering what sorta bucket he has

[Ivan]

The RG is a bit like grandpa’s axe, (Here's the version before in pic), but yes I still race it. Haven’t seen Ray for a while but yeah try get hold of him, last time I saw him was Wanganui street races, think he was still carpet laying in PN. Did you buy the RG/TS from him?

If so I built that. Well some of it. Actually the pic doesn't look like it, Ray's had spoked wheels.

Where are the rest of the PN Bucket guys? Maybe they just got sick of Shane & Lusty's bickering?


In that pic Dave there is my bucket in the back ground and dads leg lol

[Bert]

Yeah he is an awsome guy he didnt come back this season but raced the final vic round of 04 and he was fast stopped in the middle of the track helped me out picked my bike up and I rode around in Lala land made it somehow back to the pits but was told to see the ambulance which was a good thing but naughty me wasnt ment to race the next round cause of concusion but a week later I raced at General Motrs and did good I dont listen to DR's they tell me not to race so I raced with a Broken collarbone but this is getting way of subject I was wondering what sorta bucket he has

There are reasons why doc's say you shouldn't race it not only for your safety but also for other people on the track, concusions can cause blackouts under high blood pressure / high pulse rate, I know i wouldn't want someone tring to out brake me and then blacking out and crashing into me :psst:
The thing that you have to remember about broken bones i that they don't take very long to heal but if you rebrake them during the binding process they become as britle as sh1t.
ok enough of that.
Ray use to have a RG mounted TF100 (with extra rear mounting on the motor to slot into the swingarm) i think he used cb125 wheels and front forks with a larger front disk.

[Ivan]

that bike sounds pretty good

[Bert]

that bike sounds pretty good

yep it was quick. Mine is much the same in design. good bike a shame about the rider (me).
If you want to convert your RG to a 100 give us a yell I've got a TF casing (trimed to fix the RG mounts), i used it to cut down my motor to fix the frame.

[Sketchy_Racer]

so will we see you at kitoki bert??? i would love to see your bike-shame i just sold my RG/tf100, awesomw little bike :)

[Ivan]

Hey I dont think i want to change my motor but thanks for the offer. I actually have a GT125 with a Aprillia RS50 chassis you wouldnt believe how similar these chassis are from the Honda RS125 chassis only diff is one is higher than the other so they handle well and the good thing is that the Gt has power to slide the back wheel and all out of the corners cool a

[flipper]

Hey Dave, I retain Copyright on that Piccy!

[F5 Dave]

I'll pay you in kind:banana:

So when's the bike vid night with you new projection screen?

[Ivan]

this site is real good now with the upgrade

[Bert]

so will we see you at kitoki bert??? i would love to see your bike-shame i just sold my RG/tf100, awesomw little bike :)

Yep I'll be there i think - unless i cant get the protection sorted out,
though well on the way tonight - bar end, pegs and gear lever sorted and finished welding up the swing arm points . so half way there.

does / has anyone added nylon front end ie brake / axle ?? . they don't seem to touch the ground but i think they might have at some stage ! :doh: had a few large opps in the past.
also what about brake and cluch levers ? or do we assume that they won't ?
(again large opps have left their marks)

I'm really looking forward to the meeting last time i raced down in wellington I destoryed my old bucket along with my arm and someone else ? maybe Steadman ?? - long time ago.


cheers

Brent

[F5 Dave]

Yeah brake & clutch levers ok as long as a ball there. I covered my rear axle as it stuck out with a bit of rod with a thread & shaping inside to rub around the nut. The front one the nut /axle also stuck out & I had a bent bit of metal with some nylon with counter sinks screwed on it.

Now I know who you are. I almost bought that RS off you, yeah?

[Bert]

Yeah brake & clutch levers ok as long as a ball there. I covered my rear axle as it stuck out with a bit of rod with a thread & shaping inside to rub around the nut. The front one the nut /axle also stuck out & I had a bent bit of metal with some nylon with counter sinks screwed on it.

Now I know who you are. I almost bought that RS off you, yeah?

getting close. - though slow progress with the nylon. and casting new mini levers (just finished a forge - so busy melting anything i can find at the moment, just finished one rear set)

nope no RS, Dave - i think that was Clint, or one of the griffis (sp) boys, but i was around the same time - at most meetings between 94-98 including the all suzuki winter series at manfeild, Ohakea, king of the junction, fun at feilding the list go's on. as long as the bucket racing didn't clash with MX meetings.
I was very young (and most of the time my old man was with me), started buckets when I was 15. I'll have to scan some old photos that might jog your memory.

Cheers for the help.

Bert

[Ivan]

they will be cool to see I loved palmerston raceway seemed always so cool especially the downhill drop so Bert do you know were there are any RS125 chassis if so let me know

[Sketchy_Racer]

yea i am so excited about this race meeting it has been a long time since i have raced so will be good to do some:)

[ajturbo]

and ill be happy to lend my bike out if people would like to take it for a spin :niceone:


ooooooo can i??????:2thumbsup

[Ivan]

ooooooo can i??????:2thumbsup

I will make his mind up for him only if you get me a RS125 chassis nah jokes he should be around

[Sketchy_Racer]

ooooooo can i??????:2thumbsup
sure can if you want- if you are there of course :)

[Ivan]

that round will be some wicked as fun i can not wait for it a

[Bert]

they will be cool to see I loved palmerston raceway seemed always so cool especially the downhill drop so Bert do you know were there are any RS125 chassis if so let me know

I've had a few issues with the down hill when at fill tit, my brother and i had kt100s so i use to talk the bike out as well (back in the day when there was no people living or complaining about the track- ended up it the trees a few times.

Frames !!!!
Its not really the spirt of bucket racing is it ??? You don't need a RS frame to go fast !!! - its all about skill !!! though i won't mind some new rims as my stock slicks are to old to even think about riding on them - (chinsins will have to do)

[Skunk]

ooooooo can i??????:2thumbsupTry mine if you dare AJ...

[Skunk]

Its not really the spirt of bucket racing is it ??? You don't need a RS frame to go fast !!! - its all about skill !!! though i won't mind some new rims as my stock slicks are to old to even think about riding on them - (chinsins will have to do)Slicks! wooo, that's trick...

[F5 Dave]

I have some preloved slicks I can sell you quite economically. Well I'm fresh out of 18s I think, but 17s no drama.

[Ivan]

is our bucket meet going to be quite a biggy by the sounds of it. Hey RS frames are good as it still comes down to skill using them they just lighter and easy to through around I need to chuck a slick on the GT bung it up replace the pegs adjust a few things here and there and out I go Twin Cylinder 2 smoking down the straight supposibly it does 140 ks

[F5 Dave]

I'd gear it down if I were you. Road gearing may allow 140 but you won't get past say 100 on a kart track.

[Sketchy_Racer]

yea i would think you will be pushing it to get to 100 up the hill

[Ivan]

I'd gear it down if I were you. Road gearing may allow 140 but you won't get past say 100 on a kart track.

Sweet thanks for that Dave I might have some spare sprockets lying in the shed any way hows ya RS/RG going wat year is the chassis?

Here are my 2 beasts

Pic 1 my RG50
Pic 2 my GT125
Pic 3 dash view on RG
Pic 4 Ram Air system:2thumbsup

[Ivan]

yea i would think you will be pushing it to get to 100 up the hill

Us Featherston people are well ahead of our times we have ideas that none of you welly guys would no (mummble mummble Excuse Excuse):doobey:

[Sketchy_Racer]

ha!!! that almost made me laugh ivan !

lol

[Ivan]

I have been prep the bike for Kaitoke Rules and have hit a problem fuel does not come down the fuel line I have gas in the tank as well will be going back out soon

[ajturbo]

I have been prep the bike for Kaitoke Rules and have hit a problem fuel does not come down the fuel line I have gas in the tank as well will be going back out soon

hit it with a bigger hammer???:blip:

[Ivan]

nah that will slow it down and wont look as good as i pass RG100

[Ivan]

Anyone know the rules for Nyloning it up I want to get it running it has the original tyre which is fucking dogy as all cracked on the side wall I might try score me a couple of old tyres at the local bike shop for it

[Sketchy_Racer]

yea the rules for nylon is all surfaces that can damage the track have to be nyloned
:)

[Ivan]

Yeah I got to find tons of that shit strip a couple of bikes use some skate board wheels etc

[Bert]

I have some preloved slicks I can sell you quite economically. Well I'm fresh out of 18s I think, but 17s no drama.

I'll have a wee talk to you regarding those preloved slicks on the 27th, would they fix stock front RG rim?

its a bit of a shame they stopped making small slicks the last one i found was in AUS years ago, but it was truly preloved and didn't last very long.

Ivan,RG100 anyone for that matter - could you take another photo of the other side of your RG please, still tring to figure out the best way to nylon the frond brakes - for some reason I can't seem to figure out a nice way of doing it. :stupid:

Cheers
B

[Ivan]

k i just got 2 pieces of Nylon block drilled 2 hole's in it and stuck in a couple of bolts in have a gap in 2 peices of nylon chuck a hose clamp through and keep tightening wa la a good design dad made, works well ask F5 Dave I fall off right in front of him lucky he didnt wipe me out serves me right for riding like it was dry that was my first crash in ages as well lol has anyone got any 18' wheels for a nice ol GT125 so I can beat RG100!!

[Skunk]

still tring to figure out the best way to nylon the frond brakes - for some reason I can't seem to figure out a nice way of doing it. :stupid: Stick with drums - much easier... :lol:


No help I know.

[Sketchy_Racer]

ha!! you dont need brakes at all !!!


they just slow you down :stupid:

[Ivan]

The corner speed Jay carrys im sure his bike has no brake pads or brake fluid he is that bloody fast, But does anyone know if the foot pegs have to fold because the standered GT ones dont but are protected like crazy

[bungbung]

Look up the rules on the mnz site http://www.mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx

[Ivan]

Look up the rules on the mnz site http://www.mnz.co.nz/competitionrules.aspx

Cheers stupid 10 character thing

[ajturbo]

Anyone know the rules for Nyloning it up I want to get it running it has the original tyre which is fucking dogy as all cracked on the side wall I might try score me a couple of old tyres at the local bike shop for it

the dogyer the tyre the better!!:banana: :shake:

[Ivan]

Yeah Gary McCoy slides down the straight :blink:
Nah It aint actually to bad if it is wet I might be a bit nervous to ride it becuase it has so much power (2 stroke twins are fucken scary)

[Ivan]

Hey Dave have you ever raced 125GP becuase the way you ride and do set up you would be sure you did if not if you ever get the chance try it you would be real good

[Bert]

Sticky out axles or pipes you can get a block of nylon or acetal & counter bore it & screw it on, or some use exhaust clamps with nylon on the other side. I have a axle end that threads onto the extra bit of the axle & screws on hard.

Footpegs, counter bore some holes & bolt on the bottom. I have cheap after market ones with holes in the ends & I got some rod turned up to press fit in the end like bar ends. Find some off cut & take a couple of things to the local lathe guy while there's heaps of time.

Well after taking today off work - as I've been slack this week, i think its finished :2thumbsup
Attached are some close ups - I think that I've covered all the main bits, though if there are any extra suggestions please let me know, as I'm running out of time.
Another thing - my licence hasn't been processed yet :doh: so is the club doing day licence's ???????? I'm a club member, if that helps !???
Cheers
Brent

[Ivan]

Well after taking today off work - as I've been slack this week, i think its finished :2thumbsup
Attached are some close ups - I think that I've covered all the main bits, though if there are any extra suggestions please let me know, as I'm running out of time.
Another thing - my licence hasn't been processed yet :doh: so is the club doing day licence's ???????? I'm a club member, if that helps !???
Cheers
Brent


Yep to club licence good on ya for the bike as well cant wait for the weekend Im riding over the RGV 150

[Ivan]

Thats a nice pipe is it cycleworks or something bike is looking bloody good

[Bert]

Thats a nice pipe is it cycleworks or something bike is looking bloody good

you haven't seen it up close - my welding is sh!t and so is the pipe, but in saying that - it is made to the engine specs so it go's ok. - and yes it started its life as a RM125 pipe, off my MXer then i cut it to bit and made it suit the specs.

[ajturbo]

cannot wait to go up and watch how the pro's fall off!!!:banana: :blip:

mud boy will be there to watch and learn from you guys....

so do your best please... i want to see carnage!!!!!!!:2thumbsup

[Sketchy_Racer]

the funny think is, the pros do tend to fall off!!

i think it was last meeting at kaitoki we had most the tops guys come off bar JAY (fucken bloody good rider he is) and yes ever F5 dave has had two spills at that track this year one when he got tangled with craig sullivan going up the straight and the second when he low sided coming down the hill past the pit intrance
lol i fell off every race when it was wet and some times twice in a race!! it was quite amusing

cant wait its gonna be wicked fun :)

oh and day licenses are there

[Ivan]

yeah but thats probably that alternator you call a motor seizing when water gets in spitting you off I only come off once there right in front of F5 Dave in practice dont know what happened but it sure sucked some shit through and bike wouldnt run properly for 3 rounds carbs apart each round spotless new fresh fuel and would run perfect round yard get to buckets and it would bog on exit of corner lol funny and then I borrowed Steve Scullions TZ50 and crashed it going down the back straights by the sounds of it it looked a funny crash me running after the bike:stupid:

[Bert]

With a sore head :bash: (to much beer last night), and cricket finished very early. I've got the thing finished, though i have got a couple of issues that I'm currently sorting out but here it is...

catch you tomorrow

[Skunk]

With a sore head :bash: (to much beer last night), and cricket finished very early. I've got the thing finished, though i have got a couple of issues that I'm currently sorting out but here it is...

catch you tomorrowFerk - that's flash. I'm off to paint some bits of mine now. I think I'll have to wash it too. :laugh:

[ajturbo]

the funny think is, the pros do tend to fall off!!

i think it was last meeting at kaitoki we had most the tops guys come off bar JAY (fucken bloody good rider he is) and yes ever F5 dave has had two spills at that track this year one when he got tangled with craig sullivan going up the straight and the second when he low sided coming down the hill past the pit intrance
lol i fell off every race when it was wet and some times twice in a race!! it was quite amusing

cant wait its gonna be wicked fun :)

oh and day licenses are there

years ago... in nelson ..
when i first got into buckets, i fell off every corner, straight, starting the bike... getting out of the van .. before i even started the bike....... but i got better and better.... and soon i could go a whole lap without falling off... then a whole race.... i even won a hill climb...that was held over 3 events!!!!

just ask gav.
i used to run people over:banana: then falll off
i once ran a guy over twice... in the same crash!!!:doh: :thud:

so just a warning IF i get back into racing ... i mean when i get back into racing..... look out:shake:


oh what time tomorrow???

[ajturbo]

Unfortuntly our Blenhiem contact used to get access to the track by jacking it up with the old fellow who looked after the track, But he as since pasted away
and the local kart president is proving hard to track down. :no:

we used to race there a lot...... that was before they extented it... that long ago!

[Sketchy_Racer]

years ago... in nelson ..
when i first got into buckets, i fell off every corner, straight, starting the bike... getting out of the van .. before i even started the bike....... but i got better and better.... and soon i could go a whole lap without falling off... then a whole race.... i even won a hill climb...that was held over 3 events!!!!

just ask gav.
i used to run people over:banana: then falll off
i once ran a guy over twice... in the same crash!!!:doh: :thud:

so just a warning IF i get back into racing ... i mean when i get back into racing..... look out:shake:


oh what time tomorrow???

um riders briefing will be at about 9:30 ish and it will go till about 4:00 unless we get bored, thats when we leave :)

[ajturbo]

um riders briefing will be at about 9:30 ish and it will go till about 4:00 unless we get bored, thats when we leave :)

thanks .......:2thumbsup

[Sketchy_Racer]

With a sore head :bash: (to much beer last night), and cricket finished very early. I've got the thing finished, though i have got a couple of issues that I'm currently sorting out but here it is...

catch you tomorrow

thats one very very nice looking bucket there!! what is the screen off?? it looks similar to a nsr 250 one yes??

[Skunk]

OK. I washed the bucket (of shit):

[Ivan]

hit it with a bigger hammer???:blip:


I doubt you would be saying that now aye AJ:laugh: :killingme