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Zed
1st November 2005, 18:35
Specifically when road riding, but off road can count too, do you approve of others on the same ride pulling stunts such as wheelstands, stoppies, burnouts, slides, sitting on the tank and wheelying, etc?

I know some of you disapprove, so now's your chance to say why, no holds barred! :D

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 18:39
If it's an approriate time and place at least wait till i get the camera out.

justsomeguy
1st November 2005, 18:39
I hate it when others do wheelies, stoppies, ride fast, turn up on expensive bikes and do other things I can't do.......


By the way - you really care too much about everything.:dodge:
As long as they can do it safely:whocares:

scooterboynz
1st November 2005, 18:40
there is allways a time and a place

gamgee
1st November 2005, 18:44
as long as they have the skills to do it, yeah why not, no danger to anyone else, as long as they do it in a semi controlled area, sure why not, i'm always up for wheelies when theres a dirtbike around (haven't got the guts to risk my fairings on the road)

Zed
1st November 2005, 18:46
there is allways a time and a placeYou ride a ZX-10 too scooterboynz, do you wheel stand it? If so, under what circumstances do you intentionally not stunt?

Warren
1st November 2005, 18:50
As long as they don't fall off.

Toast
1st November 2005, 18:51
Yeah it's all good, time and place being correct...not endangering anyone else, why not?

Toast
1st November 2005, 18:53
As long as they don't fall off.

Yeah true, 'cos then you've possibly gotta carry the muppets back on your seat, which makes the rest of your ride gay (sympahty dependant on circumstances I guess)...it's a risk they take, like everything else, but if they've got the skills, sweet...

Riff Raff
1st November 2005, 18:55
FUCK YEAH!!!

As long as they don't attract the attention of our boys in blue when I'm riding along at a million miles an hour!

SlowHand
1st November 2005, 18:58
Role models are last people I need, but its cool to see! Smoke screen a stunt?

gamgee
1st November 2005, 19:00
haha i think i have a problem, as soon as i jump on a 2 stroke i can't keep the front wheel down :sweatdrop haha as my sig says, i've even wheelied an sj50

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 19:00
That sort of behaviour offends me, i say a prayer and ring the police:mellow:

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:10
Role models are last people I need So you reckon they can be a role model for others to follow? Would that fall under peer pressure for some of you newbie riders out there on 150/250cc screamers?


Smoke screen a stunt?Lol, only if another bike gets caught behind it and ends up doing a humungous stoppie before he collides with the slowed down traffic! That was Jrandom's motorway stunt...hehe :psst:

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:19
That sort of behaviour offends me, i say a prayer and ring the police:mellow: Hmmm, but you like riding really close to other riders when going at supersonic gixxer speeds, well you did like...I heard.

The joke's on you btw sixpack! Any self-professing athiest such as yourself who tells everyone that he prays, must still be on drugs eh mate? To us a favour and kick the habit and make everyone else's life more bearable. :doctor:


People, I hate trolls, try not to feed 'em.

aff-man
1st November 2005, 19:22
well you see I'm of the opinion that practice makes perfect. So whether I'm on a ride in a group or by myself (especially if there is a hotty watching) I'll pop it on the back wheel.....

Some people seem to take offence to the fact that you are doing such stunts. I'm of the opinion that if I am comfortable doing them and know the penalty for getting caught then they can mind thier own bussiness. There is I have noticed a lot of talk about the cops being rung....... Well do youuu go over the speed limit?? Dosn't matter if your on the back ally road somewhere if someone rings and says there is a group of motorcyles going fast on lets say 22 they will be waiting it's all up to chance really.

That all being said I am sure there are some nonses out there who see stunts being one and just have to try them. I learnt the slow long way little by little untill I have now a real feel for the bike. So I know i can only do first gear stand ups unless i want to root the bike in second so that's all do.

*breaths* To sum up. If you can go for it, If you can't don't try on a group ride, and if you disagree don't tell me about it cause i'll tell you to piss off.

loosebruce
1st November 2005, 19:26
Stunting is the kind of carry on that gets us into trouble, it's not on, on public roads, you lunatics should be shamed of yourself, if i catch ya's you'll get an earful of it.
Hence why the law abiding, car and police friendly biker that i am, i am currently trying to sort a LEGAL place for us to practice our stunting aka riding skills, will keep you posted :niceone:

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:32
(especially if there is a hotty watching) I'll pop it on the back wheel...You better watch that kind of motivation aff, heard of too many stuffups under such circumstances.


I'm of the opinion that if I am comfortable doing them and know the penalty for getting caught then they can mind thier own bussiness.

...if you disagree don't tell me about it cause i'll tell you to p*ss off.A man with is mind made up! Pity you can't make it up about your women...lol :msn-wink:

nsrpaul
1st November 2005, 19:32
normally i couldn't give a toss what others i'm riding with do within reason but couple if weeks back was ridin over local hill and the guy in front of me overtakes a truck on a blind coner
at the time thought crazy barstard , and waited for a safe place to overtake , and did
at the next stop the fuzz pulls up , the truck had *555 my mate and they said they were gunna charge the whole group with dangerous driving and let us fight it out in court( there were 7 of us)
fuzz then checked all our regos etc , sigh of relife from me as i took the gsxr on that ride which was my only legal bike at the time, some fast talkin and them yellin at us and they let us go in the end
think in reality it was all hot air from the police to give us a scare but makes you think , and glad we all had current regos cause it gave them a good xcuse to fish for tickets, (they were checkin tread depth and all)

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 19:33
Hmmm, but you like riding really close to other riders when going at supersonic gixxer speeds, well you did like...I heard.

The joke's on you btw sixpack! Any self-professing athiest such as yourself who tells everyone that he prays, must still be on drugs eh mate? To us a favour and kick the habit and make everyone else's life more bearable. :doctor:


People, I hate trolls, try not to feed 'em.

Its getting to easy to get a bite Zed, fuck i was hardly trying:niceone:
you make my day

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:36
Stunting is the kind of carry on that gets us into trouble, it's not on, on public roads, you lunatics should be shamed of yourself, if i catch ya's you'll get an earful of it.
Hence why the law abiding, car and police friendly biker that i am,That is tantamount to a troll mate! :killingme


...i am currently trying to sort a LEGAL place for us to practice our stunting aka riding skills, will keep you posted :niceone:So once this law-abiding arena is set up will you never be riding on the road again Bruce?? LOL

sunhuntin
1st November 2005, 19:39
only group ride ive been on, guys were doing wheel stands on the right hand side of the road. luckily....they were at the back, so any bins wouldnt have affected many. sadly, i was behind them, so any bins would have been very interesting. however, none binned.

as long as they know what they are doing and arent endangering others, hell, show off. makes things a bit more intersting for the person in front of the tail end charlie, lmfao.

WINJA
1st November 2005, 19:41
YOU GUYS ATTITUDE SICKENS ME , THE ROAD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL RACE TRACK

loosebruce
1st November 2005, 19:42
So once this law-abiding arena is set up will you never be riding on the road again Bruce?? LOL

Shit no mate, the road is the only place for it, but when it goes wrong and the bike slides into a curb and kills it, and or you stuff up in front of the "hottie" (showing off undid me in a big way once)(er twice actully) and the police get all anal when or if they turn up, and most importantly you could hurt somone else, so i figures if i get this "place" sussed i/we can practice to our hearts content or as long as the bike stays rideable and then the chances of it going wrong back out where we should all stunt (the streets) is a lot less.

mstriumph
1st November 2005, 19:43
The joke's on you btw sixpack! Any self-professing athiest such as yourself who tells everyone that he prays, must still be on drugs eh mate? ......................

depends who he's preyin ON i'd say ..............

.....erm, zed? i think it was a JOKE?????

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:46
YOU GUYS ATTITUDE SICKENS ME , THE ROAD IS NOT YOUR PERSONAL RACE TRACKJust cos you hardly ride these days...you paaassed it or summat?

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 19:46
Poor rider control invariably leads us to crashing our 600cc Honda, and scaring our family's. :niceone:

WINJA
1st November 2005, 19:49
Just cos you hardly ride these days...you paaassed it or summat?
ACTUALLY I WENT FOR A GOOD RIDE RECENTLY , I PULLED THE BIKE OFF THE CHARGER , PUT AIR IN THE TYRES AND HANDED A MOUTHY BLACKBIRD OWNERS ARSE TO HIM ON A PLATE

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:49
.....erm, zed? i think it was a JOKE????? Yeah I knew that! A bad taste joke.

If you havn't got anything to contribute to the subject at hand and are only here to troll, please go to another thread mstriumph. :Pokey:

Skyryder
1st November 2005, 19:50
Problem with stunts.............is that if you can off you put other riders in harms way.

Skyryder

aff-man
1st November 2005, 19:52
You better watch that kind of motivation aff, heard of too many stuffups under such circumstances.

A man with is mind made up! Pity you can't make it up about your women...lol :msn-wink:

Baaa not really.. and i don't show off that much...

As for the woman well I found out how light the front can get if you accelerate to hard with her on the back.... It was probably only about 5cm and somewhat unintentional but my kidney's still hurt....... and that was last week.

Hey bruce.... so you sussed that circle doing to the lunch bar??

HEY WINJA STILL WAITING FOR YOUR ADDRESS...

SARGE
1st November 2005, 19:53
i dont have a problem with riding fast.. gawd knows i do my share of it. what you need to think about when the testosterone flows is:

" how will this affect my group if my ego writes a check that my talent cant cash?"

"is everyone in my group at the same skill level and maturity level?"

" what will be the concequences if i fuk up and take someone with me, either directly or indirectly?"

" how will my group feel when they come to my funeral after i kill myself or the nursing home when i turn myself into 100 kg of bread pudding?"

all to satisfy the ego..show everyone you have big balls

is it worth it?

i was talking to a respected member of KB tonight , and he said the reason he dont go on group rides is because he cant be held responsible is some stupid fuck tries to keep up with him because of some competitive urge and fails in a ball of shattered fairings and bone fragments.

i agree 100000%

very few people on KB have ridden with me. fewer have seen me at full song.. there is a reason for that

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:54
ACTUALLY I WENT FOR A GOOD RIDE RECENTLY , I PULLED THE BIKE OFF THE CHARGER , PUT AIR IN THE TYRES AND HANDED A MOUTHY BLACKBIRD OWNERS ARSE TO HIM ON A PLATEYes, that seems to be a phenomenon with most of the Bird riders I've seen on the road too, nana pace...easy prey.

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 19:56
Yes, that seems to be a phenomenon with most of the Bird riders I've seen on the road too, nana pace...easy prey.

Prolly still getting over the last bin:clap:

WINJA
1st November 2005, 19:58
Yes, that seems to be a phenomenon with most of the Bird riders I've seen on the road too, nana pace...easy prey.
TURNING UP TO A STREET RACE ON A BLACKBIRD IS LIKE BRINGING A DILDO TO A GUN FIGHT, ESPECIALLY WHEN THE GUN IS A GIXXER1000 AND A GUN IS RIDING IT , YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE :spudwave:

Zed
1st November 2005, 19:59
Prolly still getting over the last bin:clap: I'd rather bin than burn out!:thud:

VasalineWarrior
1st November 2005, 20:00
Yeah Im with Sarge. Its cool so long as they dont fall and take me out, burnouts are pretty harmless anyway so no probs there. Only thing i've found is that in a group with newbies you have to be especially careful in case they try to copycat and balls it up (eg take 55k corner at 110, they try it and end up in a ditch).

mstriumph
1st November 2005, 20:01
You better watch that kind of motivation aff, heard of too many stuffups under such circumstances.

A man with is mind made up! Pity you can't make it up about your women...lol :msn-wink:

Zed
tell me [seriously - i'm not doing a pt or trying to be nasty]
.... do you start threads like this just so you can publically 'disapprove' of people who think differently to the way you do??

have you no sense of humour? a lot of the posts here are lighthearted but you always appear to be so dismal and never seem to get the joke .. which is a bit sad somehow

have you no kindness? i've noticed your posts often contain little personal barbs directed at others, usually 'excused' by a 'wink' or a 'lol' [see above?] but which just seem downright mean to someone like me

in short - if your life is making you miserable, mebbe you should address that ........ and not just spread it around...

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 20:02
I'd rather bin than burn out!:thud:

Think a tears formin.......keep biting:niceone:

BLACKYOSHI1000
1st November 2005, 20:04
NEVER DONE IT NEVER WILL LMFAO

IM KNOWN TO DO THE ODD THING :niceone: BUT I TEND TO BE GOING AWAY FROM OTHER`S OR IN FRONT OFF THEM
THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERY THING :drinkup:
THE MOST INPORTANT THING IS NOT TO ENDANGER THOSE AROUND YOU
ON A KB RIDE I HAD TO TELL A RIDER TO STOP TRYING TO DO WHEELIES WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR OTHER`S AS HE WAS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD LIKE A BLOODY YOYO IN FRONT OF US AND HOUSES :argh:
BUT SAID I`D ALSO BE ONE TO CLAP IF HE WAS WORTH IT :yes:
SO IF IT`S NOT PISSIN WHO YA RIDEIN WITH OR ANYONE ELSE GO HARD IT`S ALL GOOD :niceone:

Zed
1st November 2005, 20:05
Zed
tell me [seriously - i'm not doing a pt or trying to be nasty]Well you are nasty mstriumph, well at least that's the strong impression I've had of you ever since you came up against me on the Scottish thread. You deliberately look for fault in my posts (your 1st post in this thread being a classic example ) so you can criticise me, probably because you've got a problem with God.

Now please either discuss stunting or disappear!

DEATH_INC.
1st November 2005, 20:15
Is it still stunting if it's a normal part of your riding????? :cool:

aff-man
1st November 2005, 20:17
NEVER DONE IT NEVER WILL LMFAO

IM KNOWN TO DO THE ODD THING :niceone: BUT I TEND TO BE GOING AWAY FROM OTHER`S OR IN FRONT OFF THEM
THERE IS A TIME AND PLACE FOR EVERY THING :drinkup:
THE MOST INPORTANT THING IS NOT TO ENDANGER THOSE AROUND YOU
ON A KB RIDE I HAD TO TELL A RIDER TO STOP TRYING TO DO WHEELIES WHILE WE WERE WAITING FOR OTHER`S AS HE WAS UP AND DOWN THE ROAD LIKE A BLOODY YOYO IN FRONT OF US AND HOUSES :argh:
BUT SAID I`D ALSO BE ONE TO CLAP IF HE WAS WORTH IT :yes:
SO IF IT`S NOT PISSIN WHO YA RIDEIN WITH OR ANYONE ELSE GO HARD IT`S ALL GOOD :niceone:

That was me.... so i hate waiting every 5 secs we were out the back of the hunua's.... You called me a cunt..... Practice makes perfect mate. Sure there is a time and place but don't impose your idea of it on others... I am still a novice in the stunting area but i am taking it really slowly till i get the hang of it........ Was i endangering anyone... no.... I was if you noticed up the road aways..... were there any cars around ..... no....... so i didn't have to worry about that. Nearest house was at least 100m away so i wasn't on thier front doorstep either........ if I'm a cunt in your opinion so be it but keep it to yourself.

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 20:19
That sort of behaviour offends me, i say a prayer and ring the police:mellow:

Exactly what you would expect from someone who types in crayon

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 20:22
fewer have seen me at full song.. there is a reason for that


It's all talk?

Dafe
1st November 2005, 20:24
For Sure! The only ones that complain are the ones that don't have the bulls!

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 20:25
Is it still stunting if it's a normal part of your riding????? :cool:

Freaks don't count.

BLACKYOSHI1000
1st November 2005, 20:25
I WASNT REFERING TO ANY ONE !!!DID I SAY YOUR NAME ???NO
AND I DIDNT CALL YOU A CUNT I SAID YOU WERE MAKING A DIC OF YOURSELF ! AS YOU ARE NOW !
ITS WAS A RIDE I HAD ORGANISED :niceone: AND WAS ASKED IF I WOULD TELL YOU TO STOP DOIN IT ALSO (BY ANOTHER RIDER)
IT WAS NOT THE TIME OR PLACE AND IF YOUR GOIN TO PRACTICE BEST NOT DO IT ON A RIDE AROUND OTHERS
CHEER`S JIM

BLACKYOSHI1000
1st November 2005, 20:28
Is it still stunting if it's a normal part of your riding????? :cool:
I LIKE YOUR THINKIN :2thumbsup

SARGE
1st November 2005, 20:28
It's all talk?



yea Dave .. im always going on about how fast i am, aren't i?.. Secret Squirrel is always watching so i tend to censor my posts to reflect that knowledge


its not paranoia if someone IS out to get you

aff-man
1st November 2005, 20:28
I WASNT REFERING TO ANY ONE !!!DID I SAY YOUR NAME ???NO
AND I DIDNT CALL YOU A CUNT I SAID YOU WERE MAKING A DIC OF YOURSELF ! AS YOU ARE NOW !
ITS WAS A RIDE I HAD ORGANISED :niceone: AND WAS ASKED IF I WOULD TELL YOU TO STOP DOIN IT ALSO (BY ANOTHER RIDER)
IT WAS NOT THE TIME OR PLACE AND IF YOUR GOIN TO PRACTICE BEST NOT DO IT ON A RIDE AROUND OTHERS
CHEER`S JIM

Actually you did........... But fair call you did organise the ride.

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 20:29
Zed
tell me [seriously - i'm not doing a pt or trying to be nasty]
.... do you start threads like this just so you can publically 'disapprove' of people who think differently to the way you do??.


Ya reckon - I think he plays devil's advocate - deep huh!

BLACKYOSHI1000
1st November 2005, 20:40
Actually you did........... But fair call you did organise the ride.
AND IM NOT HERE TO SHIT SLING AT ANYONE :niceone:
IM HERE FOR RIDEING AND THE FRIEND`S I HAVE MET :niceone:
THAT`S WHY I ORGANISE RIDE`S (AND IF WE HAVE STOP EVERY 5 MIN`S FOR THE SLOWER RIDER`S SO BE IT :niceone: REMEMBER NO ONE BUT ME KNEW WHERE WE WERE GOING)
I CAME TO KIWIBIKER AS I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT MOTORCYCLEING
NOT SHIT SLINGING AND BACK STABBING
I LOVE TO RIDE AND PREFER TO RIDE WITH OTHER`S AS THEY ARE THE FRIEND`S I HAVENT MET YET :niceone:
AND THERE`S SOME GREAT PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND SOME WHO NEED TO GET OUT ON A RIDE OR TWO INSTEAD OF SITTING INFRONT OF A COMM
:2thumbsup
NO HARD FEELING`S CHEER`S

scooterboynz
1st November 2005, 20:49
You ride a ZX-10 too scooterboynz, do you wheel stand it? If so, under what circumstances do you intentionally not stunt?

yeah do wheelstands , country back roads out of site, dont do burn outs (seems like a waste of rubber) definantly don't do stoppies (used to on old bike)

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 20:57
For Sure! The only ones that complain are the ones that don't have the bulls!


Bulls? You kiwi talk funny.

aff-man
1st November 2005, 20:59
AND IM NOT HERE TO SHIT SLING AT ANYONE :niceone:
IM HERE FOR RIDEING AND THE FRIEND`S I HAVE MET :niceone:
THAT`S WHY I ORGANISE RIDE`S (AND IF WE HAVE STOP EVERY 5 MIN`S FOR THE SLOWER RIDER`S SO BE IT :niceone: REMEMBER NO ONE BUT ME KNEW WHERE WE WERE GOING)
I CAME TO KIWIBIKER AS I THOUGHT IT WAS ABOUT MOTORCYCLEING
NOT SHIT SLINGING AND BACK STABBING
I LOVE TO RIDE AND PREFER TO RIDE WITH OTHER`S AS THEY ARE THE FRIEND`S I HAVENT MET YET :niceone:
AND THERE`S SOME GREAT PEOPLE ON THIS SITE AND SOME WHO NEED TO GET OUT ON A RIDE OR TWO INSTEAD OF SITTING INFRONT OF A COMM
:2thumbsup
NO HARD FEELING`S CHEER`S

see ya on the next one.... :niceone:

Big Dave
1st November 2005, 21:00
yea Dave .. im always going on about how fast i am, aren't i?..


Like me. I know i'm 8/10 on a road and 7/10 off it and I'm all I have to prove it to.

SARGE
1st November 2005, 21:01
Bulls? You kiwi talk funny.


puff puff pass Dave ..

bogart

SixPackBack
1st November 2005, 21:03
Ya reckon - I think he plays devil's advocate - deep huh!

More like Satan's little helper:whistle:

N4CR
1st November 2005, 21:10
So you reckon they can be a role model for others to follow? Would that fall under peer pressure for some of you newbie riders out there on 150/250cc screamers?


Not so much a role model, something to look forwards to later when you have a bike and skills capable of doing so. (And the will to learn).

I'd love to learn how to wheelie one day, and properly stoppie etc.

Got no problems with stunts on rides, just makes my jaw drop when some gixxer goes past on one wheel while I'm crouched over the tank at some rediculous speed!

madboy
1st November 2005, 21:17
Stunts are all good when they go right. Nothing like sitting at damn near your top speed when a legend rolls up next to you, pops it up on the back wheel, and cruises off down the road - standing up on the pegs. But even the best misjudge it.

Time and place. Hence the reason I leave the party tricks for when I'm alone... oh, wait, hang on... I couldn't get it up if I had a lifetime supply of Viagra!

Bring on the stunting :devil2:

mstriumph
1st November 2005, 23:44
Well you are nasty mstriumph, well at least that's the strong impression I've had of you ever since you came up against me on the Scottish thread. You deliberately look for fault in my posts (your 1st post in this thread being a classic example ) so you can criticise me, probably because you've got a problem with God.

Now please either discuss stunting or disappear!

i have the feeling that your whole life is 'stunting' --- ie as much for public show as for personal conviction

"came up AGAINST you"?? good grief, man .... no such thing ...... we are NOT antagonists, whatever you may think ....................

i would just like it if you would be a little ............ more charitable[?] .... in your dealings with others here [and, i suspect, in your 'real' life]

people that wheelstand or stoppie on bikes are saying something about themselves when they do that

what are YOU saying about YOURSELF when you set yourself up as judge and jury in a thread like this??

it doesn't matter to me whether u think i'm nasty or nice [so who are you? Santa?? lol] what DOES matter is that we are both human beings - and THAT means we have a responsibility for each other IRRESPECTIVE of whether we like it or no.

my sense of responsibility for YOU doesn't like to see you putting yourself out here, being thought of as heartless and unkind [and having people make fun of you]

mebbe YOUR sense of responsiblility for me would prefer you were a little less abrasive in your dealings with others?

look - pm me if you have a problem with this ------ i TRULY didn't intend to upset you ...

Zed
2nd November 2005, 09:08
yeah do wheelstandsThe bike does or you do? Lol. The modern litre bikes have a mind of their own...:blip:


...country back roads out of site, dont do burn outs (seems like a waste of rubber) definantly don't do stoppies (used to on old bike)Yeah burnouts also make a heck of a lot of mess if done on our lovely public roads! Stoppies - havn't ever tried them myself. :apumpin:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 09:22
...what are YOU saying about YOURSELF when you set yourself up as judge and jury in a thread like this??Wow mstriumph you have quite an imagination, you've got me totally wrong here. Judge & jury you reckon...lol...I created this thread because I AM one of them who pull stunts on rides and just wanted to hear what people think, both positive and negative comments are welcomed.

As for your personal comments directed at me, rather than trolling the tread like you have these 3 times now, please PM me with your psychological babble and I'll defend myself there rather than in the public domain...but I rather think you enjoy saying such nasty things in public don't you. :psst:

ManDownUnder
2nd November 2005, 09:24
So long as you know your limits, are prepared if/when things go wrong (i.e. you have the gears) and don't put anyone else at risk... no problem

ManDownUnder
2nd November 2005, 09:26
i have the feeling that your whole life is 'stunting' --- ie as much for public show as for personal conviction

Hey MT - I'll vouch for Zed (assuming MY word is worth anything). Good guy who gives wheelies etc a good go himself (I think his front tyre hits the ground for corners though - right Zed?)

It's me that doesn't do the stunting...

SPman
2nd November 2005, 09:49
I confine my stunting to throwing Gixxers into banks to avoid turkeys! None of this dangerous wheely and stoppy stuff! :whistle:

robnz
2nd November 2005, 09:52
go the stunts as long as you dont hurt or kill yourself or somebody else. there is a time and a place

mstriumph
2nd November 2005, 09:53
.............. both positive and negative comments are welcomed.

As for your personal comments directed at me, rather than trolling the tread like you have these 3 times now, please PM me with your psychological babble and I'll defend myself there rather than in the public domain...but I rather think you enjoy saying such nasty things in public don't you. :psst:

red rep away my friend ---- that's even sadder

i'll continue saying what i must ........ if you want me to keep it private, all you have to do is do the same yourself ?

cheers :drinkup:

bugjuice
2nd November 2005, 09:55
lol.. what an interesting read..

my 2˘ - everyone loves to see something they can't do, or have the extra bit of adrenalin flowing for what they can do, most of the reason we rides bikes isn't it? So just to evolve that to push the boundries is almost second nature after riding the damn things. And out in the sticks away from town and traffic (and possible fuzz), we're all a little less on our gaurd and more likely to bend the speed limit a k or two, pull a wheelie if ya can, or exercise the front brake a bit hard. As long as it's a place where you aren't going to get the rest of the pack into trouble with either the law or with each other as in crashes, then I think most don't mind seeing a bit of something more now and again..

Besides, I'm learning how to wheelie, so that should a situation arise thru accelerating out of danger, I would know how to control the wheelie in a safe condition to ensure the survival of myself and the bike. I haven't really done many stoppies, but I know the feeling to a point, so should someone pull into my path, I would know how much force I can apply to the front brake to make my stop as effective as possible (75% of braking power - pfft). I can do burnouts, but that's a waste of good rubber imo. But, should I strike such obsticles as diesel or oil on the road and my tyre doth spin in such a mannor, I would know how to control the situation so that I can pass in the safest possible way. That's my story Mr Officer

mstriumph
2nd November 2005, 09:57
actually - think stunts are kinda neat ................ :mellow:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 10:00
red rep away my friend ---- that's even sadder"my friend"?? Obviously just a figure of speech huh?

You had the red rep coming btw, I warned you twice not to troll this thread. :done:

Mooch
2nd November 2005, 10:29
Specifically when road riding, but off road can count too, do you approve of others on the same ride pulling stunts such as wheelstands, stoppies, burnouts, slides, sitting on the tank and wheelying, etc?

I know some of you disapprove, so now's your chance to say why, no holds barred! :D

I guess I disaprove , because in my experence the "group show off" ends up binning it some stage soon after, which becomes a real hassle for the rest of the group when we try and work out how to get the broken rider to hospital and the broken bike home. In my experence , sofar they haven't taken out other people , but one was close to hitting a car before coming off. I'd also rather be checking the road rather than mirrors etc to may sure they aren't going to take me out. Also anyone who stunts with a pillion in my opinon is a wuckfit.
I tend to ride with a more mature group these days so it's normally not an issue.

Zed
2nd November 2005, 11:12
I guess I disaprove , because in my experence the "group show off" ends up binning it some stage soon after, which becomes a real hassle for the rest of the group when we try and work out how to get the broken rider to hospital and the broken bike home. In my experence , sofar they haven't taken out other people , but one was close to hitting a car before coming off. I'd also rather be checking the road rather than mirrors etc to may sure they aren't going to take me out. Also anyone who stunts with a pillion in my opinon is a wuckfit.
I tend to ride with a more mature group these days so it's normally not an issue.Well said, we all form our own opinions through personal experience don't we.

I've been on some group rides where there were up to 5 "show offs" performing entertaining antics throughout the ride and no-one binned or had any close calls...those were some rides to remember! Out of all the KB rides I've been on (well over 50) there have been over a dozen bins, 3 of which were right in front of my eyes, yet these bins were not the result of stunting but rather too hot into corners or a bad judgment call when passing another vehicle, etc.

Granted, stunts can be dangerous, and the last thing you need on a ride is to be concerned about having to cart someone off to hosptial as a result...however, there is just as much chance of someone being hospitalised on a ride when not stunting IMO & experience. :doctor:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 11:15
I tend to ride with a more mature group these days so it's normally not an issue.So are you saying that a "mature" rider doesn't stunt, or that riders who stunt are immature? :whistle:

Marmoot
2nd November 2005, 11:40
This is crazy.....wheelstands are dangerous! You should think twice before doing that sort of thing on public road!

I know I always did. The problem was that I have always been a fast thinker :mellow:

Matt Bleck
2nd November 2005, 11:52
depends who I'm riding with,

If it's people I know then yeah all good,

But if I don't then I won't, not to keen on making a dick of myself in public. ( if and when I fall off trying).

Big Dave
2nd November 2005, 11:58
which becomes a real hassle for the rest of the group when we try and work out how to get the broken rider to hospital and the broken bike home.

If they have been a real cock - just phone the feds and leave 'em.

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 13:25
Hey MT - I'll vouch for Zed (assuming MY word is worth anything). Good guy who gives wheelies etc a good go himself (I think his front tyre hits the ground for corners though - right Zed?)

It's me that doesn't do the stunting...

If my word means anything Zed is humourless and excessively patronising......... a size able group of diverse Kbers share the same opinion

ManDownUnder
2nd November 2005, 13:30
If my word means anything Zed is humourless and excessively patronising......... a size able group of diverse Kbers share the same opinion



All good - we can agree to disagree on that one...

bugjuice
2nd November 2005, 13:32
If they have been a real cock - just phone the feds and leave 'em.
sounds like experience talking there..

bugjuice
2nd November 2005, 13:32
All good - we can agree to disagree on that one...
I disagree

ManDownUnder
2nd November 2005, 13:33
I disagree

bastard - I can't work out if that's a good or a bad thing... which may be a good thing in itself.

:drinkup: anyone?

inlinefour
2nd November 2005, 13:34
Specifically when road riding, but off road can count too, do you approve of others on the same ride pulling stunts such as wheelstands, stoppies, burnouts, slides, sitting on the tank and wheelying, etc?

I know some of you disapprove, so now's your chance to say why, no holds barred! :D

Good reason for the law to hand out tickets, although off road they have no say in the matter :niceone:

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 13:39
bastard - I can't work out if that's a good or a bad thing... which may be a good thing in itself.

:drinkup: anyone?

Allow me!
Bugjuice shares my low opinion of Zed

mstriumph
2nd November 2005, 13:54
"my friend"?? Obviously just a figure of speech huh?......................



no

same same as shakespear's henry V calling his army 'brothers' at agincourt,
i tend to regard anyone who rides as 'friend', even if i disagree with them ....

so, friend zed, over to you.

bugjuice
2nd November 2005, 13:56
Allow me!
Bugjuice shares my low opinion of Zed
lol... don't drag me into all the battles! I quite like my fence thankyou..

Zed
2nd November 2005, 14:00
Good reason for the law to hand out tickets...So am I to take it that you don't approve then? Sure it's risky, but so is riding at excess speeds...you do ride a K3 don't you? :whistle:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 14:04
...so, friend zed, over to you.Ok ok, I don't see the harm in being friendly, you are after all a fellow KBer...even if you do live in the land of Oz! :niceone:

Sniper
2nd November 2005, 14:18
I have no problem with those who want to do stunts on rides. It just has to be the right time and place. And you have to be careful you don't influence the wrong people like newer riders, otherwise stunts on rides are great!

mstriumph
2nd November 2005, 14:22
........ from reading this thread, seems that we need an 'Approve - provided its done at the right time in the right place' option on the poll? i'd vote 'yes' to that one :niceone:

ManDownUnder
2nd November 2005, 14:25
........ from reading this thread, seems that we need an 'Approve - provided its done at the right time in the right place' option on the poll? i'd vote 'yes' to that one :niceone:

Good call...

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 18:08
:lol: :lol: I asked them to put in an option of "plonker free zone" but they felt that was a little unkind.........I disagree, you clearly fall into that category!:bleh:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 18:12
:lol: :lol: I asked them to put in an option of "plonker free zone" but they felt that was a little unkind.........I disagree, you clearly fall into that category!:bleh: That can't be true you plonker sixpack, if they felt you were being unkind MOST of your posts would be either edited or deleted by now! :baby:

Big Dave
2nd November 2005, 18:12
SO WHO WAS THE MODERATOR THAT ADDED IN THE EXTRA VOTING OPTION,

Can't find anything important to get worked up about then?

Big Dave
2nd November 2005, 18:13
That can't be true you plonker sixpack, if they felt you were being unkind MOST of your posts would be either edited or deleted by now! :baby:


Unkind? he's tounge is sharper than a really sharp thing, on world sharp things day.

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 18:18
If only Fishing could be as easy in the real world........dinner would consist of Large Hapuka steaks everynight:niceone:

BLACKYOSHI1000
2nd November 2005, 18:19
Not so much a role model, something to look forwards to later when you have a bike and skills capable of doing so. (And the will to learn).

I'd love to learn how to wheelie one day, and properly stoppie etc.

Got no problems with stunts on rides, just makes my jaw drop when some gixxer goes past on one wheel while I'm crouched over the tank at some rediculous speed!
SORRY A BOUT THAT :niceone:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 18:24
If only Fishing could be as easy in the real world........dinner would consist of Large Hapuka steaks everynight:niceone: Dear dear sixpack, justifying your uncouth troublemaking by using the excuse that you were 'only fishing for a bite' is a little childish don't ya think and certainly wearing thin! Be an honest man and come out and admit that you hate my guts and want to see me dead! Cmon say it!

Ps. not sure if I should thank you for the rep too...make up your mind will ya!

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 18:32
Sorry Zed what was the thread about again......and stop sucking your thumb!:2thumbsup

Zed
2nd November 2005, 18:41
Sorry Zed what was the thread about again.....It was about the fact that you can't stunt to save yourself! :bleh:

Macktheknife
2nd November 2005, 18:44
I know some of you disapprove, so now's your chance to say why, no holds barred! :D

Zed, why would you ask the question and then slag off at people who disagree with your point of view???
Just accept that others have a different POV and move on.
I think they are cool but needs practice.... I :drinkup: certainly do!

James Deuce
2nd November 2005, 18:46
"Stunts on Rides" - that's GOTTA be someone's Amerindian name.

Zed
2nd November 2005, 18:47
Zed, why would you ask the question and then slag off at people who disagree with your point of view???Hey, I havn't slagged off anyone on this thread concerning the question I asked, I think you misunderstood me. Please copy and paste what you are referring to? :mellow:

Zed
2nd November 2005, 18:49
"Stunts on Rides" - that's GOTTA be someone's Amerindian name.I wonder if they stunted horses? Good name for Death_Inc too...:whistle:

Big Dave
2nd November 2005, 18:51
"Stunts on Rides" - that's GOTTA be someone's Amerindian name.

So you say, '2 dogs fucking'.

SPORK
2nd November 2005, 19:04
"Stunts on Rides" - that's GOTTA be someone's Amerindian name.
WT, mebbe? Luulh.

Skyryder
2nd November 2005, 19:16
For Sure! The only ones that complain are the ones that don't have the bulls!

I think you mean balls. Got plenty of them but the older you get the longer it takes to heal. Don't need some fuckwit sloshing his testosterone in his underpants and demonstrating to all and sundry how much macho he's got. If you want to show off do it behind me and not in front. I should rephase that but I wont. Who seez I don't have a sense of humour. :calm:

Skyryder

Zed
2nd November 2005, 19:30
...sloshing his testosterone in his underpants and demonstrating to all and sundry how much macho he's got. If you want to show off do it behind me and not in front.I personally don't stunt to demonstrate any macho I may have, I can prove that because I do them when I'm riding alone more often than with others...to me it's part of my riding enjoyment and if others are present to see me and get enjoyment too, all the better!

Also, I assume that the other KBers I know who wheelie, stoppie, etc, feel pretty much the same way...if they are doing it just to show off to others and to satisfy their own pride then it would be obvious to me I think and I'd probably stay clear of them, cos that kind of motivation to stunt on public roads will end up in a bin methinks!

aff-man
2nd November 2005, 19:50
I personally don't stunt to demonstrate any macho I may have, I can prove that because I do them when I'm riding alone more often than with others...to me it's part of my riding enjoyment and if others are present to see me and get enjoyment too, all the better!

Also, I assume that the other KBers I know who wheelie, stoppie, etc, feel pretty much the same way...if they are doing it just to show off to others and to satisfy their own pride then it would be obvious to me I think and I'd probably stay clear of them, cos that kind of motivation to stunt on public roads will end up in a bin methinks!

hahahahahahaha or whenever you see a crest........ I can see you almost tense in anticipation :bleh: :bleh:

Some people confuse practice/stunting enjoyment for showing off .......... What then oh wise one?

Zed
2nd November 2005, 19:57
hahahahahahaha or whenever you see a crest...Not whenever Grasshopper, I am developing a careful eye to be able to spot 'the right' crests for my riding style...gimme a modern litre bike and it might turn into 'whenever'!! :headbang:


Some people confuse practice/stunting enjoyment for showing off...Usually they are the ones who havn't experienced the buzz of being passed on one wheel by an accelerating orange gixxer! Hehe

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 20:07
It was about the fact that you can't stunt to save yourself! :bleh:

True Zed......I could do with some crashing practice as well, can you teach me, will bring a cbr600 along so you can get comfortable

aff-man
2nd November 2005, 20:08
Not whenever Grasshopper, I am developing a careful eye to be able to spot 'the right' crests for my riding style...gimme a modern litre bike and it might turn into 'whenever'!! :headbang:

Usually they are the ones who havn't experienced the buzz of being passed on one wheel by an accelerating orange gixxer! Hehe

buzz/frustration.... and that grey gixxer thou also instills such a feeling....
but yeh i know what ya mean hehehehe

Zed
2nd November 2005, 20:17
True Zed......I could do with some crashing practice as wellNo-one practises crashing sixpack...ur not a *real* biker after all eh!

SixPackBack
2nd November 2005, 20:41
Golly Mr Zed you say the most hurtfull things:crybaby: please stop!

shadow
2nd November 2005, 20:57
i cant say that iv asked people i ride with wether they aprove of hoolagism maybe i should as i took it for granted that everyone likes to see a few stunts. i cant help myself but would try to do it away from people who would feel unsafe around me. suppose im saying i do approve but am not out to freak people out just to improve my own skills or show off however you would like to put it and to have a bit of fun. i dont appove of making fellow riders feel unsafe around me.

Mumbles
2nd November 2005, 21:18
Skilful buggers... as long as it dont endanger anyone (other than the guy doing it), Love to see it!!

Mooch
2nd November 2005, 23:15
So are you saying that a "mature" rider doesn't stunt, or that riders who stunt are immature? :whistle:

Since this thread is no holds bared here's my veiw , if people do it in cars they are labelled "boy racers" and I see a ton of threads complaining about there behaviour saying what a bunch of immature w*nkers , yet similar behaviour on KB for motorcyclists doesn't see the same level of dissaproval from the board and we all seem to look the other way or incourage it. Why is that ? So yeah , I'll stick my head out and say "riders who stunt are immature"

mstriumph
2nd November 2005, 23:21
ohhhhhhhh big thanks zed for putting that extra option in and fixing it so i could vote --- :love: see a few others got there before me!

inlinefour
3rd November 2005, 09:17
Ive got a POS of a bike thats a friggin lemon. I know others have got gsxrs that run great but my RD was a more impressive bike to ride. NM anyhow, I'm going to rade the crapolia in on something nice in the MV liniege

aff-man
3rd November 2005, 09:42
Since this thread is no holds bared here's my veiw , if people do it in cars they are labelled "boy racers" and I see a ton of threads complaining about there behaviour saying what a bunch of immature w*nkers , yet similar behaviour on KB for motorcyclists doesn't see the same level of dissaproval from the board and we all seem to look the other way or incourage it. Why is that ? So yeah , I'll stick my head out and say "riders who stunt are immature"

Ahhhh yes the whole "boy racer" side. But would it be fair to say that a lot of the things "boy racers" do are uncontrolled? Or better yet you can get a 15yr old in a car capable of doing such thjings...

Now I feel that yes we may be hooligans but most (yes i said MOST) of the time we are fully in control. Shit happens... sometimes and you deal with it then. Also i have yet to see a really young bloke doing stupid things on a bigger modern sprotbike. I am sure they are out there but i have yet to see one. :drinkup: :drinkup:

DEATH_INC.
3rd November 2005, 18:30
I wonder if they stunted horses? Good name for Death_Inc too...:whistle:
Weeelllll,funny thing,back in me younger days I usta ride a horse,and I actually taught him to 'wheelie' as such,he'd pop up onto his hind legs on demand.Usta do some other dumb shit too.... :banana:
Oh,and I was a nut in a car too,usta drift long before it was popular with the boi racers :yes:

2_SL0
3rd November 2005, 19:23
Ahhhh yes the whole "boy racer" side. But would it be fair to say that a lot of the things "boy racers" do are uncontrolled? Or better yet you can get a 15yr old in a car capable of doing such thjings...

Now I feel that yes we may be hooligans but most (yes i said MOST) of the time we are fully in control. Shit happens... sometimes and you deal with it then. Also i have yet to see a really young bloke doing stupid things on a bigger modern sprotbike. I am sure they are out there but i have yet to see one. :drinkup: :drinkup:


Bollocks. I think the 15yr old behind the wheel thinks the same thing.

Dont get me wrong I dont mind people stunting, but in the same instance I dont mind boy racers. Im afraid for me your both in the same catagory. Its not a bad thing, but both under the same umbrellor. You can paint it how you like. I do find it funny when people here abuse boy racers, then jump on their bike and do the same thing, lololol.

nsrpaul
3rd November 2005, 19:31
Bollocks. I think the 15yr old behind the wheel thinks the same thing.

Dont get me wrong I dont mind people stunting, but in the same instance I dont mind boy racers. Im afraid for me your both in the same catagory. Its not a bad thing, but both under the same umbrellor. You can paint it how you like. I do find it funny when people here abuse boy racers, then jump on their bike and do the same thing, lololol.
nice post , well said , i still like stoppies tho

Kornholio
4th November 2005, 00:12
That sort of behaviour offends me, i say a prayer and ring the police:mellow:

I agree...its bloody shocking behaviour :whistle:

Darlios
4th November 2005, 00:50
Quite a few differences between the boy racers and the stunties i'd say....

A) It's harder to ride a bike when u are completely plastered... unlike the boy racers who still hoon around AFTER they had passed out 30 minutes before from too much drinking with a car load of people...
B) When things get out of control at least u are only going to kill yourself and not all your mates along with yourself. (unless you take someone out somehow...).

So at least the stunts and hooliganism is somewhat contained and puts less people at risk than handbrake turning a car at high/low speed (i know two people who've tried it. First one killed himself and 3 or 4 of his idiot mates after they nailed a pole.... no loss to the intelligence of society... the other managed to roll and write off the car... yay for him :niceone: .................. idiots........)

So really if u wanna pull stunts i'd say go ahead. Only you and your family who will face the consequences, not 4 mates and their families.

2_SL0
4th November 2005, 05:23
I see no difference, as for your comments with alcohol. Well you have just labeled the entire boy racer group, hmm dont people do that with motorcycles.

avgas
4th November 2005, 06:11
I feel like being a wanker here....
Those who dont like stunts.....cant stunt, have never tried, and are too emotional :)
How do you feel when someone sez to you.... "Why do you ride a motorbike for? Those things are dangerous" or my favourite "You'll get yourself killed on that thing".......... Now look at the comments you guys are posting against people who stunt.... go buy a bloody cage, even scooter riders stunt

aff-man
4th November 2005, 08:04
I feel like being a wanker here....
Those who dont like stunts.....cant stunt, have never tried, and are too emotional :)
How do you feel when someone sez to you.... "Why do you ride a motorbike for? Those things are dangerous" or my favourite "You'll get yourself killed on that thing".......... Now look at the comments you guys are posting against people who stunt.... go buy a bloody cage, even scooter riders stunt

:Punk:.....................

Mooch
4th November 2005, 08:53
Must be a forum for bullet proof early 20's somethings squids. Carry on stunting guys .... I picked up two of you's so far , looks like many more to come.:msn-wink:

bugjuice
4th November 2005, 09:03
for my2˘ - imho boy racers don't have the same concept of danger as we do. If bikers fuck up, it's gonna hurt. Boy racers never fuck up. or so they think. Even when they do fuck up and kill people, they're back out doing it the next night.

We (most anyway) know the dangers we're getting into just getting on the seat, let alone popping a wheelie etc. Which leads me to believe that anyone 'stunting' would do it in a place that's more appropriate than where a boy racer would just see a round about in any traffic condition, and try to spin the back round.. Not saying that all of them do, but a lot of them have the 'invincible' mode set on.. We know all too well we ain't

XTC
4th November 2005, 09:15
After all has been said I still don't think a group ride is the place for stunts. If you must stunt - do it away from the group. But then where's the fun in that eh?

aff-man
4th November 2005, 13:06
Must be a forum for bullet proof early 20's somethings squids. Carry on stunting guys .... I picked up two of you's so far , looks like many more to come.:msn-wink:

shit ZED he said you were in you're early 20's , purple grey and slimey and bulletproof.....

not sure if there is a compliment in there somewhere???

Zed
4th November 2005, 13:26
shit ZED he said you were in you're early 20's , purple grey and slimey and bulletproof.....

not sure if there is a compliment in there somewhere???All are entitled to their oposing opinions my dear Aff...but as I've already stated here, in my experience I've seen more accidents from riders who were not stunting than from those who were, so my opinion differs from Mr Mooch who sounds like he has had quite the opposite experience...

aff-man
4th November 2005, 13:39
All are entitled to their oposing opinions my dear Aff...but as I've already stated here, in my experience I've seen more accidents from riders who were not stunting than from those who were, so my opinion differs from Mr Mooch who sounds like he has had quite the opposite experience...

True, all are entitled to thier opinions..... that differs from saying people in this particular thread are early 20's squids .....

Maybe I smell fishy or something?? I am sure I showered this morning??

ManDownUnder
4th November 2005, 13:41
I feel like being a wanker here....
Those who dont like stunts.....cant stunt, have never tried, and are too emotional :)
How do you feel when someone sez to you.... "Why do you ride a motorbike for? Those things are dangerous" or my favourite "You'll get yourself killed on that thing".......... Now look at the comments you guys are posting against people who stunt.... go buy a bloody cage, even scooter riders stunt


I can't stunt, and I've never tried.

And to answer your question - I enjoy riding motorcycles. Have done since literally before you were born and still have no ambition to do so.

You'll also note I have nothing against stunting so long as there is the requisit skill on hand, people know their limits, they're willing to accept the possible outcomes and the don't put anyone else at risk.

I think you'll find cage drivers stunt too - in fact I can't think of any mode of transport that doesn't stunt.

Comparing one to another on the basis of wanting to do something that tests your skill and the pushes the envelope of the vehicle/trasport in question is quite simplistic.

MDU

HYPE
4th November 2005, 13:56
Hi group, my names hype and im an addict, ive been doing stunts since i can remember.. a few mates put me onto it and since then its taken over my life... it starts with a small hit and before long you’re using more height and less speed and all you want to do is try the real hard stuff for that euphoric hit! You start hangin out with the wrong crowd and even start to learn the references such as 12'ing and BP ... i admit, i am a user and im hooked

yours faithfully,

Stunt Junkey. :)

__________________

on a serious note.. if i can achieve that much, i am after all immature in most respects.

ive raced sports/Mx and even go karts in my time and there’s always different attitudes involved, i speed and i stunt.. yes ive fallin off a few times and didnt even have anyone else to blame!.. i pick myself up, fix my bike and mind my own business.... to me motorcycling is about choice & freedom ... whichever way you take it... i respect one & all ... I do not endanger any others at any time... I even find quiet places and practice alone (no one to show off to!) I understand the point being made regarding group rides and the odd tool that’s ambitions outway their abilities.. once again i believe it relates to time & place as mentioned... dont judge a motorcycling brother/sister because their methods or craft differs from yours... ive left rides to retrieve my car/trailer to salvage many riders in my time and i complain none coz one day (and it has happened) they will (i hope) do the same for me... so in closing, if you wreck and im there, be it your fault or not im not leaving you behind.. one for all and ????

make your expectations clear before organising a group ride and try to encourage and or discourage what is deemed acceptable or not.

I am new to this site so i cant/wont pass judgment on others or quote various comments. but one small suggestion is if it has such a negative affect and pains to the degree of preaching for conformity... it only takes one rider to ride a bike.. void yourself of these immatures and enjoy your own company, you can tell me how to ride once you’ve shown me you can...

Note: Motorcycling is not a safe activity, two wheels supported by forward momentum and one by balance ;)

I hope we can still be friends?!

peace be with, Brother Hype :spudwave:

avgas
4th November 2005, 13:59
Must be a forum for bullet proof early 20's somethings squids. Carry on stunting guys .... I picked up two of you's so far , looks like many more to come.:msn-wink:
Nah im not bullet proof - i learnt my lessons along time ago (i have the scars, broken bones, stuffed nerves, f ed muscles and titanium to prove it). And 95% of the time i ride like a nana......however 5% of the time, its "ME TIME", a i deserve to ride like a maniac then..... i mean whats the point otherwise - you can only prove you have balls 3 ways a) flashing them to the public [not a good idea], b) Showing ya loved one them..... and c) using them to 'indent' your tank :crybaby: ;)

mstriumph
4th November 2005, 14:08
Hi group, my names hype and ...........................
I hope we can still be friends?!

peace be with, Brother Hype :spudwave:


Hi Hype - welcome to our madhouse and enjoy! [even if you do come from Sydney :dodge: ] -

look under FAQ for a thousand and one things you are probably better off not knowing.............

avgas
4th November 2005, 14:08
I can't stunt, and I've never tried.
And to answer your question - I enjoy riding motorcycles. Have done since literally before you were born and still have no ambition to do so.
You'll also note I have nothing against stunting so long as there is the requisit skill on hand, people know their limits, they're willing to accept the possible outcomes and the don't put anyone else at risk.

Ah but your not against stunting then ;) you just dont do it (which is fine). But becuase you are not anit-stunting, my previous statement still holds.
As i didnt say cars dont stunt, but how many people are apposed to cars stunting?
However, what are we going to rate stunting at? Just mono's, stoppies? Or are we also including speed?

HYPE
4th November 2005, 14:16
However, what are we going to rate stunting at? Just mono's, stoppies? Or are we also including speed?

any freestyle and or acrobatic performance on a motorcycle is somewhat a contender as a 'stunt' as common reference and term in relation to moootasickling

... technically riding is a stunt as is driving and lawn bowls if you want to play that angle :calm:

DEATH_INC.
4th November 2005, 19:11
A little point (or two)on the boi racer thing,it takes a lot more speed to upset a car,it's a finer line between in control and out of it in a newer car.You can't wheelie or stoppie a car so you look for a rush other ways,drifting ,handbrake slides,burnouts and speed.Burnouts and handbrakies can be done at lower speeds,but in most stockish cars you gotta push 'em to drift so it's gonna be messy when it goes wrong.Lastly you feel safer in a car,it don't matter how old you are,I've seen a few real dangerous moves by old foegies who are definately not boi racers.
As for the original subject,most on here know if myself and some others are on a ride there's gonna be stupid acts of stupidity performed,and we generally stay away from the slower/newbie rides.

mstriumph
4th November 2005, 19:20
All are entitled to their oposing opinions my dear Aff...but as I've already stated here, in my experience I've seen more accidents from riders who were not stunting than from those who were................................

possibly 'cause there's waaaaaaaay more riders who don't stunt?

Madmax
4th November 2005, 20:13
doing wheeles on a dirt bike is great fun
(just watched the supermonos, would love to try that :love: )
trying to do them on a big bore two stroke road bike is bloody
scary though, bog bog flip is the rule
fliped one in front of a mate once, not only was the bike fucked
he ran me over while i was lying down praying to the tarmac god
(it was kind of hard to explane to the boss)
still have the scars from that one
:devil2:

Zed
4th November 2005, 21:52
possibly 'cause there's waaaaaaaay more riders who don't stunt?Not necessarily, remember I said "in my experience". Some rides I've been on have only been a few people and we all stunt or at least attempt to, other rides have had up to 50 riders with no-one stunting. It's relative to the group numbers.

Mstriumph, have you ever been on a group ride where people are stunting often? If so, have you been on over 20 rides where people are stunting often? I have, and during those many rides I've never seen a stunter bin but have seen many a conservative rider hit the dust! :nono:

Brett
4th November 2005, 22:11
As most have stated, if it is safe and no one else is around or close enough to get hurt, then yeah, why not?? I stoppie quite a lot, enjoy the practice...and man i need it!. My wheelies need heaps of work, i just cant get the wheel up using the clutch! I have to use a roll in the roll.
Why might it be that i am struggling to clutch lift the front?? rear suspension set up wrong?

Zed
4th November 2005, 22:13
As i didnt say cars dont stunt, but how many people are apposed to cars stunting?As said previously, I am opposed to stunts that cause mess on our public roads so I generally don't approve of cars doing burnouts & drifting corners unless it's on the track.


However, what are we going to rate stunting at? Just mono's, stoppies? Or are we also including speed?When I created this thread I didn't consider 'speeding' as a stunt, still don't.

How can speeding be classified as a stunt? :scratch:

Mooch
4th November 2005, 22:18
As most have stated, if it is safe and no one else is around or close enough to get hurt, then yeah, why not?? I stoppie quite a lot, enjoy the practice...and man i need it!. My wheelies need heaps of work, i just cant get the wheel up using the clutch! I have to use a roll in the roll.
Why might it be that i am struggling to clutch lift the front?? rear suspension set up wrong?

Try this link , apparently you'll get more sex as a result ! :niceone:

http://www.stunters.com/tips-tech_wheelies.html

Zed
4th November 2005, 22:19
Why might it be that i am struggling to clutch lift the front??There needs to be the right amount of throttle when you dump the clutch. In what gear are you attempting them and at what revs are you dumping the clutch? :confused:

Brett
4th November 2005, 22:22
crikey man, i have tried many different positions on the bike, wieght far back, not so far back etc, i have treid 1st,2nd,3rd gear and from8000rpm through to 14000rpm. I think it may partly be my dumping of the clutch and technique that needs work tho...

Zed
4th November 2005, 22:30
crikey man, i have tried many different positions on the bike, wieght far back, not so far back etc, i have treid 1st,2nd,3rd gear and from8000rpm through to 14000rpm. I think it may partly be my dumping of the clutch and technique that needs work tho...Lol, the world loves a trier mate!

1st gear wheelies on your bike should be quite simple, as you said the technique needs to be practised till you get the 'feel' of it. Remember that the more revs you give it the higher she'll come, but take it small steps at a time or else you might come up too high and go over backwards...doh! :pinch:

mstriumph
4th November 2005, 23:28
................. and during those many rides I've never seen a stunter bin but have seen many a conservative rider hit the dust! :nono:


why do you think that is zed? is there any common cause u can think of?

Aucker
4th November 2005, 23:38
Stunting is triffic and always has my approval. luv popping wheelies and doing peg stands at high speds, rolling stoppies, jumps off-road.....my riding wouldnt be the same without them, would probably quit if i stopped stunting. :headbang:

Madmax
5th November 2005, 00:12
try that on a ZX10r and it will be a case of instant hospital food
(trust me i know) :doctor:

aff-man
5th November 2005, 07:27
crikey man, i have tried many different positions on the bike, wieght far back, not so far back etc, i have treid 1st,2nd,3rd gear and from8000rpm through to 14000rpm. I think it may partly be my dumping of the clutch and technique that needs work tho...

zxr250 doing a whelie in 3rd gear.... feck me but that sounds (probably could be done somehow but sounds) impossible..

First gear should be enough altough you'll be raping the bike to get it up.. just gotta find where the sweet spot is. start at about 7k and then clutch in go up 2000 rev then dump etc etc etc and just keep increasing the amount of revs untill you fiind the right amount. :niceone:

Zed
5th November 2005, 07:33
why do you think that is zed? is there any common cause u can think of?Because stunters are better riders and have more control! :msn-wink:

SPman
5th November 2005, 07:42
Because stunters are better riders and have more control! :msn-wink:
Until things go bad ...........
Then everyones in the same boat......:drinkup:

Zed
5th November 2005, 07:50
Until things go bad ...........
Then everyones in the same boat......:drinkup:I said that tongue and cheek BUT I tend to think that a stunter would handle a too hot corner or a sudden slide better than your average conservative nana/noob type rider, and possibly keep the shiney side up instead of laying it down! :shit:

aff-man
6th November 2005, 00:24
I said that tongue and cheek BUT I tend to think that a stunter would handle a too hot corner or a sudden slide better than your average conservative nana/noob type rider, and possibly keep the shiney side up instead of laying it down! :shit:

Tend to agree... any decent stunter will have a really good feel for his / her machine and when dealing with an "intense" situation can feel what the bike is doing and avoid it??

Not that a non stunter can't do this IMHO i find that since i started doing "silly" things on the bike i have a much better feel of how the suspesion/power delivery affects the bike.

SixPackBack
6th November 2005, 06:10
I said that tongue and cheek BUT I tend to think that a stunter would handle a too hot corner or a sudden slide better than your average conservative nana/noob type rider, and possibly keep the shiney side up instead of laying it down! :shit:

Being on one wheel increases the risk of crashing, some of the more skilled riders on this site crash often enough to prove that, generally taking more risks and traveling faster.
No one cares what you think Zed

Zed
6th November 2005, 06:51
...i find that since i started doing "silly" things on the bike i have a much better feel of how the suspesion/power delivery affects the bike.You got it, and those who don't explore these further capabilities of their bike are missing out on a whole side of motorcycling that can bring immense enjoyment...but at a risk of course!

Did i hear a mouse sqeak in here somewhere?? Waz probibly nothin'. :weird:

loosebruce
6th November 2005, 06:58
...but at a risk of course!



Fkn @ .......

SPman
6th November 2005, 09:06
I said that tongue and cheek BUT I tend to think that a stunter would handle a too hot corner or a sudden slide better than your average conservative nana/noob type rider, and possibly keep the shiney side up instead of laying it down! :shit:
Possibly. The experience in the USA would tend to show otherwise.Out here, stunters do tend to have a little more experience. I think the law of averages and possibilities would tend to suggest that stunters and riders who push the envelope more, are at an increased risk of binning, just because they DO push the envelope more. Noobs are at risk, just because they havent built up the basic skills yet. A stunting noob ----:eek5: (see the USA) For those that want to stunt - as long as they know what can (and does - eh young Bruce) go wrong,and pace themselves accordingly and realistically - I got no problems..

Personally, I reckon everyone should start on a 100-200cc dirt bike and learn basic extreme bike control before they even get on the road..........
..

mstriumph
6th November 2005, 13:44
...............
Personally, I reckon everyone should start on a 100-200cc dirt bike and learn basic extreme bike control before they even get on the road..........
..

i never even THOUGHT of that ........


hmmmmm small DIRT bike ..... where can i get a .................

Mooch
6th November 2005, 17:32
Aff-man , Zed , how many times have you laid your bikes down ?

aff-man
6th November 2005, 17:38
Aff-man , Zed , how many times have you laid your bikes down ?

While doing stunts..... none. :shake:

Zed
6th November 2005, 20:44
Aff-man , Zed , how many times have you laid your bikes down ?Twice in 20 years, and neither involved stunting. How about you Mooch??

oldrider
6th November 2005, 21:41
There are too many rules in this country now. If you want to do something and you are not effecting others ,do it but remember you must consider the consequences of your actions. You will be accountable for the outcome. Enjoy both.
Freedom, is just another way of spelling motorcycle. Cheers John. :niceone: