HELP - BIKE BLEW UP

[justsomeguy]

If anyone knows about a spare ZXR250 C engine - can you please get in touch.


THE RANT:
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NOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


I've blown a 3 " by 5" hole in my bloody piston barrell case thingee...... see the pic......

FUCK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Remember Frosty - I told you the bike doesn't seem proper......

Just had the bike set up..... brand new GPR-70's, heavy duty chain and sprockets.......

Do one ride down Cheenic Dwive:love: ........... manage to stay infront of everyone except YOSHI for a bit then he let me lead for the rest of the way.

Suddenly the bike feels a bit weird.....Asked Wonko to test ride it...... he comes back saying somethings wrong - dunno what.

Any way I had two appointments....... so head off to catch up for an appointment.

The heat guage never worked - was on the list of fixes after I fixed the tempermental tachometer, bike wont rev past 10k......

But I'm almost there...... only another 10 mins till my appointment and fuck it goes BOOM...... not a big noise - but I see shards of silver metal flying everywhere from under the bike - luckily at that point I pulled the clutch in and rolled to a stop......

Pull over and see this - look at pic :crybaby: :argh:

So - now I have no bloody bike......

Was supposed to buy a new car today - the 11am appointment and a new steering wheel...... have to ditch both now.......

FUCK!!!

Juzzer - please find that bloody Red Baron Reciept - I want to see what the fuck they did for $800+ in service..... I'm not very happy.....

:argh: :argh: :argh:

[justsomeguy]

Can someone help me bring the thing back??

It is now in Onehunga - I need to get it to Mt Roksill.

Some very kind soul - used to ride a 1977 Goldwing - stopped and helped me -

Bryan Hill From StanFord Harts :not:

He took the bike and parked it in his warehouse (what a lucky coincindence) - he owns a warehouse just a few mins from where I blew up and gave me a lift home......

Top bloke - a true Kiwi.


THANKS MATE

[Ixion]

Oh dear. Bad luck. Sounds like a rod's gone. (Very unlikely to be related to the work you had done). Shit happens I guess.

If you're still stuck tomorrow afternoon, PM me and I'll break out the trailer and collect it for you. Can't do it till then though, so probably someone else will come through before then.

[HDTboy]

I think I see the problem: Your front wheel's missing

[Coyote]

Shit that's really awful to hear man :no: supposedly a ZXR400 motor will fit straight in (could someone confirm that).

It'll be an awesome story to tell though. Not many people can say they blew a 3"x5" hole in a engine :p Get some proper pics of it

[pyrocam]

ikm sorry. the first thing that comes to mine is
OMGHAHHAHAAHAHHAAH
and then I say. aww thats really mean. so I wont say that.

good luck getting it sorted matey.

[rogson]

PM me, I can get it home for you this afternoon in my pickup

[WINJA]

YOU GUYS KNOW I HATE HONDAS BUT IF ITS 400CC OR SMALLER GET A HONDA , THOSE SMALL YAMS AND KAWASAKIS SUCK , THE SUZUKIS ARE ACCEPTABLE BUT HONDA JUST SEEM TO HAVE THE BEST SMALL CC ROAD BIKES

[justsomeguy]

PM me, I can get it home for you this afternoon in my pickup

Just PMe'd you mate,

Cheers.

[justsomeguy]

By the way - I managed to source a ZXR250A motor - Mt Eden reckon it's a straight bolt on job - they've done it before. I am having it delivered to Motohaus now - maybe I will be able to get back on two wheels sooner that I thought.

SWEET!!!

[crazyxr250rider]

I feel your pain..........

[Toast]

Ouch...bad luck on the self destructing engine dude...

Good luck on getting help at the scene and that Mt. Eden has got you a new engine.

[Zed]

So - now I have no bloody bike......

:argh: :argh: :argh:Real sorry to hear this JSG, and you looked like you were having such a good time today too! Nothin like bike trouble to ruin your weekend. :crybaby:

Time to shell out $$$ into a more reliable machine? Hope the new engine works out.

[FROSTY]

JSG --Im sorry to hear that dude--I heard ya pain through the phone
BUT MATE--Fuck that oil leak -Jeysus it coated my boot in oil and I only rode it for 2 minutes ---and No temp gauge-shit thats just like playing russian roulette mate.
Those little motors rev like snot and need good oil pressure or else--kachingo

[justsomeguy]

YOU KNOW WHAT - I FUCKING LOVE KB.:love:


In 1/2 hour. Rogson arranged to pick bike up, I found a ZXR250 A engine at a wreckers and

YOSHI:not: said he'll help me swap the engines.
WOOHOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[justsomeguy]

JSG --Im sorry to hear that dude--I heard ya pain through the phone
BUT MATE--Fuck that oil leak -Jeysus it coated my boot in oil and I only rode it for 2 minutes ---and No temp gauge-shit thats just like playing russian roulette mate.
Those little motors rev like snot and need good oil pressure or else--kachingo

TRue - I kept checking oil - It was FULL in the morning and I only rode less than 50 kms in total...... most of it was thrashing it on Cheenic Dwive - but ......... oh well.

[Zapf]

TRue - I kept checking oil - It was FULL in the morning and I only rode less than 50 kms in total...... most of it was thrashing it on Cheenic Dwive - but ......... oh well.

make sure the oil pressure gauge work this time round hur... :)

sorry to hear the mis-hap... but sounds like its all going to work out for u

[N4CR]

Hhmmm.. mine was dripping oil/liquid but I did overfill the petrol at kopu. Stopped after that 200kms later. Oil is at a normal level (above) and temps are low as... I might change it to be safe.

What im thinking is that petrol overflow caught crap from front chain sprocket and made it oilly like chain oil or something.

Also jsg it could have been your Swivel pin in your tacho or your gyro that came loose?!

Ahh well... bad luck matey! Sorry to hear that.

[Gremlin]

aww mate, bad luck. There we were talking to you at the stop, I'm giving you a bit of shit about luck with bikes (as you do), you even said, "Mechanically I reckon its good tho" (or something like that).

Glad to see you have managed to sort everything quickly...

[Firefight]

but anyway, bad luck mate, our van is available if you need it, am home over weekend txt if you need help .

F/F

[SARGE]

mate .. if it wasnt for bad luck.. you wouldnt have any at all..


gimme a shout if i can help in any way

[Leong]

Good to meet you today JSG, Sorry to hear about the engine, but looks like it's pretty much sorted anyhow... Good Luck!! :wavey:

[erik]

heck that was quick :yes:
Good to hear you're getting it sorted :niceone:

[thealmightytaco]

I'll have to remember this, I was about to offer assistance but you got it all sorted within the hour, new engine even. Awesome.

When swimming in shit, post on kb

There's a t-shirt.

[White trash]

Riff raff sez.

Should'a bought a Zookee. You're welcome.

[justsomeguy]

Riff raff sez.

Should'a bought a Zookee. You're welcome.

There aint no decent 2fiddy zookies you dirty bleached bloke.

Anyway - our mate Yoshi kindly offered to swap the motor for me saving me what would have been a labour bill of a few hundred dollars .

Give that man some bling all of you.:not: Yoshi :not:

So from 3pm (ish) today thats what we've done.

Exhaust/Headers, radiator, tank, air box, rear fairings (got in the way) and everything else removed. Old motor removed and stacked aside. New motor lying 1 foot away waiting to be slotted in.

Bout another 2 hours non-stop work and the bikes :done: ..... then all it needs is a tune up and we're :laugh: again


Rhino took some pics - post them please Rhino.

Cheers,

:niceone:

[justsomeguy]

but anyway, bad luck mate, our van is available if you need it, am home over weekend txt if you need help .

F/F

Hahah - so you did, but I've invested too much already into the thing.

But anyway - now that the new motor is going in tomorrow and since I've personally stripped the bike to little bits, at least I know every nut and bolt on it.

[Ixion]

There aint no decent 2fiddy zookies you dirty bleached bloke.

,,

Yeah ? Who d'ya think makes the RGV250. What y'mean is that none of ya can handle a two smoker :devil2:

[James Deuce]

Now we know where Magua's jinx went.

Your attitude is commendable. Ghandi would be proud.

No pissing and moaning, just organise another engine and get on with it. Plus you've got some spares now.

[justsomeguy]

mate .. if it wasnt for bad luck.. you wouldnt have any at all..


gimme a shout if i can help in any way

I'm used to bad luck mate....

Cool - I'll come and shout at you one of these days.....:devil2:

Today was super, super good luck - if you ignore the blowing a hole bit.......

1. I get a passer by who gives me a lift home and stores my bike in his warehouse which happens to be 5 mins from where I blow up.

2. KB'er Rogson (a guy I've never even heard of before) offers to pick-up and transport my bike over to Yoshi's from the warehouse - give the man some rep people - he deserves it. THANKS MATE.

3. I manage to find an engine

4. Yoshi offers to help me fix the bike - FOR FREE

5. By the early evening everything is stripped off and I'm ready to slot in the new engine.

Blown engine to fully sorted in 2 hours......ready for engine swap in 5 hours... :banana:

Shit happens, I'm used to it...... but it's all fixed - so I'm stoked.

[justsomeguy]

Yeah ? Who d'ya think makes the RGV250. What y'mean is that none of ya can handle a two smoker :devil2:

I'll buy it if you repair it:niceone:

Deal???

[justsomeguy]

Now we know where Magua's jinx went.

Your attitude is commendable. Ghandi would be proud.

No pissing and moaning, just organise another engine and get on with it. Plus you've got some spares now.

It's Gandhi. Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi. http://www.mkgandhi.org/

Cheers mate. The way I see it - life mostly sucks and Murphy's Law rules everywhere. So we can either sit and waste our life worrying or get on with it.:whocares:

[SPORK]

Yeah ? Who d'ya think makes the RGV250. What y'mean is that none of ya can handle a two smoker :devil2:
Fark yes RGVs. I want one sometime next year after my future RG. Then can I be a horrible 2-Storke Powar man?

[justsomeguy]

Fark yes RGVs. I want one sometime next year after my future RG. Then can I be a horrible 2-Storke Powar man?

Naah - wait till you get your full and buy a ZXR400.

[John]

Yeah ? Who d'ya think makes the RGV250. What y'mean is that none of ya can handle a two smoker :devil2:
He said decent... duhhhhhhhhhh

Grats jsg, still riding the zxr with an oil leak and no temp gauge thats just CRAZY did you even know if you had a proper working cooling system, makes ya wonder - sounds more like an oil starvation/delivery, because just because it drips and you top it up it wont fix the problem, its all about that fabled compression...

anywho good on ya.

[justsomeguy]

He said decent... duhhhhhhhhhh

Grats jsg, still riding the zxr with an oil leak and no temp gauge thats just CRAZY did you even know if you had a proper working cooling system, makes ya wonder - sounds more like an oil starvation/delivery, because just because it drips and you top it up it wont fix the problem, its all about that fabled compression...

anywho good on ya.

Hey John - the temp guage did sorta move - but it would rarely move away from the blue line.

Where does yours sit???

[John]

Hey John - the temp guage did sorta move - but it would rarely move away from the blue line.

Where does yours sit???
yeap you would have had a problem, around town she will hover around mid depending on my filtering / how ruff I am with her, on a ride when the speeds are 160+ its normally sitting quarter of the way up, make sure you get that fixed eh, I am ALWAYS watching mine, best way you can tell if anything is wrong, get used to how your engine warms and cools, if its getting alot hotter than normal switch it off and check everything..

[justsomeguy]

yeap you would have had a problem, around town she will hover around mid depending on my filtering / how ruff I am with her, on a ride when the speeds are 160+ its normally sitting quarter of the way up, make sure you get that fixed eh, I am ALWAYS watching mine, best way you can tell if anything is wrong, get used to how your engine warms and cools, if its getting alot hotter than normal switch it off and check everything..

Used to know where it sat on the ZZR to a mm.

Still getting to know the new bike.....

From the diagnosis - a rod got out of line. There was quite a bit of oil in the engine. Despite spilling half on the motorway:whistle:

[SuperDave]

So you are the reason there is so much oil on our roads! Good stuff getting everything sorted so quickly. I would not have ridden a ZXR much if I knew a temp gauge was not reading, like John, I too keep an eye on it.

[justsomeguy]

So you are the reason there is so much oil on our roads! Good stuff getting everything sorted so quickly. I would not have ridden a ZXR much if I knew a temp gauge was not reading, like John, I too keep an eye on it.

Was a bit scary having that oil coat the left edge of my back tyre - but hey it was the DWIVE:love: I lose reason when that road is mentioned.

[James Deuce]

Ghandi, Gahndi (gets frightened by Ninjas all the time (GAH!), or andhi. Whatever - some little brown bloke from South Africa who ruined the British Raj.

I made several spelling mistakes yesterday, thanks to the evil of cold medication and alcohol. At least the elephants have left me alone today.

[Big Chim]

Post some pictures of the hole, Keen to see what the inside of your old engine looks like :dodge:

[justsomeguy]

Engine Swap completed - only have to put the plastics, etc back on.

The bike needs a bit of tuning and some engine work - who are the best Kwaka people to do this job???

[erik]

Engine Swap completed - only have to put the plastics, etc back on.

The bike needs a bit of tuning and some engine work - who are the best Kwaka people to do this job???
Mt Eden are a Kawasaki dealership... :whistle:

I'm keen to see the blown-up engine too. If you've got it home, could I stop by and have a look at take a few pics?

[crashe]

Good that you got the bike fixed so quick... and you are now up and running again.


But are you telling us that you continued to ride the bike knowing it was spilling out oil all over the roads... and that you also rode down Scenic Drive yesterday with Learner riders following you...
Now what if their bikes slipped on the oil on the road...
That to me is being rather foolish and careless to other riders. IMHO

You knew it was leaking oil... I would have kept the bike off the road until you found out why and where it was coming from.

[justsomeguy]

Good that you got the bike fixed so quick... and you are now up and running again.


But are you telling us that you continued to ride the bike knowing it was spilling out oil all over the roads... and that you also rode down Scenic Drive yesterday with Learner riders following you...
Now what if their bikes slipped on the oil on the road...
That to me is being rather foolish and careless to other riders. IMHO

You knew it was leaking oil... I would have kept the bike off the road until you found out why and where it was coming from.

I managed to stay a bit ahead of the pack yesterday, there was no one following me, except Yohi for a bit and he knew about my bike.

The oil was dripping out - at about a drop every 10 seconds. I had tightened the alternator cover and the oil leak had reduced a lot. 99% of the oil was sprayed onto my boot and left swingarm. Almost a microspray was reaching the road. The learners were more at risk collecting one of the cyclists than slipping in any.

Since you as usual are making your classic assumptions I suggest you know what you are talking about first as it is foolish and careless to go making ridiculous assumptions.IMHO.

[crashe]

I managed to stay a bit ahead of the pack yesterday, there was no one following me, except Yohi for a bit and he knew about my bike.

The oil was dripping out - at about a drop every 10 seconds. I had tightened the alternator cover and the oil leak had reduced a lot. 99% of the oil was sprayed onto my boot and left swingarm. Almost a microspray was reaching the road. The learners were more at risk collecting one of the cyclists than slipping in any.

Since you as usual are making your classic assumptions I suggest you know what you are talking about first as it is foolish and careless to go making ridiculous assumptions.IMHO.


I was not making assumptions JSG.... I had read the whole thread...
and even Frosty had made a comment about the oil spitting out everywhere.

I was concerned for all the other riders.. as I would hate to see one of them have an accident... over oil spilling out everywhere...

That was why I made the comment...

But I am glad that you have since got your bike up and running again...
and hopefully you will find out why it was leaking out oil everywhere.

[Rhino]

Ok, someone wanted pictures of JSG's old engine. Here are 5 taken yesterday.

[Ixion]

Is that teensy little thing in your hand the remains of a piston ? Shit, that's tiny.

[erik]

bloody hell...

So the cause of the explosion is one of the conrods letting go and poking a hole through the cylinder?

[RiderInBlack]

Fu*k, you are sooooo fu*ken luck JSG. Glad you've got that sorted so quick. Huge brownie points to all that helped you, but fu*k JSG that really puts a shiver up my spine and shinks me balls. I'm just so glad we are not go to your funeral.

Hope you have got the temp and pressure gauges sorted out on your bike now, and please don't ride it if she's leaking (bad).

[justsomeguy]

I was not making assumptions JSG.... I had read the whole thread...
and even Frosty had made a comment about the oil spitting out everywhere.

I was concerned for all the other riders.. as I would hate to see one of them have an accident... over oil spilling out everywhere...

That was why I made the comment...

But I am glad that you have since got your bike up and running again...
and hopefully you will find out why it was leaking out oil everywhere.

I know you're concerned Crashe - we need you looking out for us:niceone:

Frosty rode it on a thursday night's ride...... 2 weeks ago:mellow:

A bit of work went into it since then.:niceone:

[justsomeguy]

Is that teensy little thing in your hand the remains of a piston ? Shit, that's tiny.

Yup - one third of a top of a piston:whistle:

[justsomeguy]

bloody hell...

So the cause of the explosion is one of the conrods letting go and poking a hole through the cylinder?

Yes you big, brainy fellow - you got it, that's exactly what caused the :thud:

By the way had another look at the motor now and the hole goes both ways - the hole you see in the pic and another hole out the back of the engine...........:sweatdrop

[Toast]

Yes you big, brainy fellow - you got it, that's exactly what caused the :thud:

By the way had another look at the motor now and the hole goes both ways - the hole you see in the pic and another hole out the back of the engine...........:sweatdrop

hahaha...you have been freezing some for 'just in case', right JSG? :doctor:

[RICHIE]

hay JSG sorry to hear about your zxr. my bike broke down as well but its only a spark problem not as bad as yours. :brick:

[justsomeguy]

hay JSG sorry to hear about your zxr. my bike broke down as well but its only a spark problem not as bad as yours. :brick:

What spark problem??

I had brand new plugs installed a few days before - it should be on the service invoice.

Keep us informed on the status of the old ZZR - I loved that bike. Hope it treats you well.

[justsomeguy]

hahaha...you have been freezing some for 'just in case', right JSG? :doctor:

You sure there should be more of me going around?? :cool:

[R6_kid]

take the pistons out of the old engine... hang them up in your gargre/bedroom with a sign saying 'offerings to the gods of motorcycles'... :yes:

sounds like you had a good bit of luck dude, cept for the one bad bit that started it all off!

[N4CR]

Hmm... well. Good things and bad things. From memory john had a 250A engine and the parts were pretty interchangeable between A and C models.

" Seems like we got ower selvfs a parts engine "

If I ever need anything I'll be in touch :bleh:

[bugjuice]

lamo.. that's well and truely fudged..
That's just what happens when it gets on in time.. and gets a little hot.

Well done on doing a proper job :niceone:

[SPman]

Hey JSG - you could just hang it up - like this - my first offering.

[Zapf]

how goes the rebuild?

[justsomeguy]

how goes the rebuild?

The rebuild was finished on Sunday morning - cheers Yoshi.

I then waited nearly 4 days for Kerry to get free......:mad:

Botany Honda picked the bike up this morning and should have it ready by tomorrow I think...

..... Or else maybe Sat -

New oil, filter, radiator fluid, swap the flywheel/alternator thingameebob, balance carbs, check plugs and replace if necessary, new alternator gasket, make sure all gauges work, start the bike run it and see if it works.

[Zapf]

The rebuild was finished on Sunday morning - cheers Yoshi.

I then waited nearly 4 days for Kerry to get free......:mad:

Botany Honda picked the bike up this morning and should have it ready by tomorrow I think...

..... Or else maybe Sat -

New oil, filter, radiator fluid, swap the flywheel/alternator thingameebob, balance carbs, check plugs and replace if necessary, new alternator gasket, make sure all gauges work, start the bike run it and see if it works.

If you see a shiny Black CB900.... I'll let you sit on it. :P

should be there around 4~5pm tomorrow...

But dave is pissing me off...

[justsomeguy]

If you see a shiny Black CB900.... I'll let you sit on it. :P

should be there around 4~5pm tomorrow...

But dave is pissing me off...

Ok - lets make it 4:30pm - will do my best to pop around.

[2_SL0]

Yes you big, brainy fellow - you got it, that's exactly what caused the :thud:

By the way had another look at the motor now and the hole goes both ways - the hole you see in the pic and another hole out the back of the engine...........:sweatdrop


But why did the conrod let go?

[SixPackBack]

JSG is strangely quite as to the cause. Leading factors are big oil leak [ a drop every ten seconds ] and lack of temperature gauge....sounds like the piston seized and the con rod kept going.
Conclude: lack of maintenance.

[justsomeguy]

JSG is strangely quite as to the cause. Leading factors are big oil leak [ a drop every ten seconds ] and lack of temperature gauge....sounds like the piston seized and the con rod kept going.
Conclude: lack of maintenance.

What do you mean - we have talked about the issue at length here...

Yes it is as you say.

However it's not lack of maintenance - spent just under $700 on it the day before....... and if you look at most of my threads I'm always asking about how to fix this and that.....

It was more like pushing my luck - I knew I had the oil leak - was going to pick up an alternator gasket later in the day.

However there was a ride down the Dwive :love: so I said - oh what the heck - one more ride.... the oil tank was full, the bike hardly leaked unless thoroughly thrashed.... :doh: ......... and there was at least a litre of oil left in the engine when we stripped it.... so no idea.

Any other theories????

[2_SL0]

If you had a plenty of oil left in the bike, a minor oil leak. That does not explain why the rod let go.

[justsomeguy]

If you had a plenty of oil left in the bike, a minor oil leak. That does not explain why the rod let go.

If you know someone who can figure it out please tell me.

[bugjuice]

may be it was just it's time. nothing lasts forever and sometimes things just give up the ghost without warning..

[Ixion]

If the oil leak happens to be on the pressure side of the system, then having plenty of oil may not help. You can have a tank full of oil, but if the pressurised circuit is leaking, the oil ins't getting where it's needed. Modern engines don't just rely on having the oil generally sloshing round (that's OK for the gearbox) For the motor, the oil is piped to the main bearing and big ends (and other stuff) by the oil pump. Only a little bit of oil at any one time in the pipe. If you have a leak, the oil PRESSURE drops. that means there's not enough pressure to keep the bearing surfaces apart (I'm assuming a white metal big end/main.) So the white metal surfaces start touching, they pick up on each other, that makes it steadily worse (maybe over a period of days, even weeks) , until you get a high spot picking up on a high spot. That generates enough heat to momentarily weld the surfaces together. Big end locked, piston tries to come down, something's gonna give. Usually the conrod.BANG.

[El Dopa]

Pah! Amateur.

Wait 'til you're on your 3rd engine, then start whinging.

Seriously though, sorry to hear about this. I have a lot of sympathy.

[2_SL0]

If you know someone who can figure it out please tell me.

Without looking at the engine stripping it down and appraising the components, no one will know. Even then if parts have been removed and fiddled with, its more difficult. Im guessing a lack of oil preassure, but that is a guess as I havent looked. I for one have better things to do with my time. The broken conrod is the outcome, not the begining of the problem.

[raster]

Sunspots I reakon!

[justsomeguy]

Well the bikes fixed now - just need to get it back home. Waited nearly 1.5 weeks for a bloody flywheel puller to arrive..... grrrr......

The reason the guys(mechanics) think the thing blew up is cos the radiator cap was leaking - so this caused a loss of pressure in the system, which in turn caused the water to boil much faster, they feel this also caused the heat meter to give a wrong reading, meaning the bike was a lot hotter than it was indicating :thud:

Does this make sense to you guys?? Anything like this happened before??

JSG.

[Ixion]

Was the radiator water boiling ? (You'd know if it was)

[justsomeguy]

Was the radiator water boiling ? (You'd know if it was)

No - nothing like that happened before the bike blew up.

It just ran slightly guttless. In the end it refused to rev over 10,000 rpm.

Then just blew up...

[R6_kid]

sounds like BS, i drove the ZXR to uni with a half filled cooling system once, heated up real fast, and went up into the red zone at the lights. When i got to uni and took the cap off the water boiled out everywhere and i topped it up with a bottle of PUMP water.

Didnt do any damage, tho when it was really hot it didnt quite have the kick it did when it was 'on temp'

[justsomeguy]

sounds like BS


Can someone confirm this?? I'd be rather :angry: if it is.


The bloody event has costed me more than a grand - thats not including another 650 spent on regular maintenance stuff......and it's not like I have t money lying around either.....

[carver]

that sucks dude
my gixer 250 had 25psi across 3cly and 125 psi across the 4th
4 cly engines are expensive to fix!:blink:

[Sketchy_Racer]

im learning all about the cost of having a 250 multi!!! my CBR has already cost me $100 just for the headgasket!!! :blink: very expensive little piece of aluminium!! i know it sounds like peanuts to you but for me a 15 yr old school goer its two weeks pay!! damn i need a better job mumble mumble.
its going to be a very nice bike once completed tho

[RiderInBlack]

sounds like BS, i drove the ZXR to uni with a half filled cooling system once, heated up real fast, and went up into the red zone at the lights. When i got to uni and took the cap off the water boiled out everywhere and i topped it up with a bottle of PUMP water.

Didnt do any damage, tho when it was really hot it didnt quite have the kick it did when it was 'on temp'Never take the Radiator Cap off a bike when it's hot (don't you guys read the idiot instruction on the caps). Even at "Normal" operating temp's she going to spew. Add water using the reservoir only and, if she's real hot do it with the motor running or let the bike cool first for few hours (not mins, unless you like having a cracked head or block).

[RiderInBlack]

It just ran slightly gutless. In the end it refused to rev over 10,000 rpm.

Then just blew up...How long was it running "gutless"? As for refusing to rev over 10,000 rpm, I would have pulled off the road straight away. Sure sign the the motor is about to seize:doh:

[Sketchy_Racer]

as soon as any of my bikes start runing crap its stop and have a look !!! just stoping and looking could have saved ya engine but shite happens and there is no good luck without bad luck eh :)

[justsomeguy]

How long was it running "gutless"? As for refusing to rev over 10,000 rpm, I would have pulled off the road straight away. Sure sign the the motor is about to seize:doh:

Hindsight is about as useful as a fart in a tornado.:2thumbsup

[RiderInBlack]

Hindsight is about as useful as a fart in a tornado.:2thumbsupOnly if you don't learn from it. Hindsight helps you understand what when wrong and what you could do to prevent doing the same thing again. It builds your knoweledge. Fu*ken useful if you ask me. The old pilots used to brake down every crash to find out what when wrong so that they would not make the same mistake as their dead mate. It's the bases of what they called "having the right stuff".
Hope you are learning:hitcher:

[justsomeguy]

Hope you are learning:hitcher:

Yes Sir I am:yes:, wisely reflecting on what could have been done better as I start crying looking at my overdrawn bank account.:thud:

[Zapf]

Yes Sir I am:yes:, wisely reflecting on what could have been done better as I start crying looking at my overdrawn bank account.:thud:

Cause and Effect mate... if u don't want the effect... learn to avoide the Cause. :) so when you out riding again? I'll shout you a tank of gas on a ride.