Goodbye Supercorsa's, Hello ???

[Matt Bleck]

Well thats it, the second hand set of supercorsa's I got are know nackered!

Now I have a bit of a dilemma.... what to get now!!

These are the second lot of second hand pirellis I've had, and fuck do they go good, but as Quasi pointed out, overkill really for the road, they only last about 4,000 k's (but oh so sticky!!!).

So I am now tossing up between some...

Bridgstone battleaxe 012's for about $575 fitted and balanced

Pirelli Daiblo's for the same.

or some Metzler Racetech K2's for $500 (probably not a good idea cause I think these are along the same line as the supercorsa's?? But then $500 is a good price, arghhhhh)

So what do ya's reckon!! If you've tried any of these, can you give me feed back. ie. how the feel, durabilty vs traction etc...

Any veiws on these would be much appreicated.

Cheers Paul D

oh yeah someone was tryin to tell me that Metzelers & Pirelli's where made by the same factory, just different tred pattern's! Can anyone confrim this.

[Teflon]

These are the second lot of second hand pirellis I've had, and fuck do they go good, but as Quasi pointed out, overkill really for the road, they only last about 4,000 k's (but oh so sticky!!!).


if i got 4000 out of a corser, i would be stoked.

[loosebruce]

The thing is with tyres like racetecs an supercorsa's is they are track based tyres, designed to work at track temps (a fair bit higher than a road tyre, cant remeber exactly but i think it's round the 80-100 degree mark for a treaded track tyre, slicks run even higher), and to get them to that kind of temp under road use, you have to be fair pushing all the time, shit hot road tyres are designed at fast road use and prolly are the best for it, (temp range from 60 - 80, dont quote me on that) pilot powers for instance are a fantastic tyre, but still cook in 5 or so hot laps round the track. And for the conditions we can encounter on the road the road tyre is best, two good mates of mine one mounted on a K3 1000, and the other on a new blade, both racetec shod, i stuck with them on pilot powers and we were fucken hauling at times, and then when it turned wet on our last leg, i said goodbye to em.
The other issue with track based tyres is warm up time is a lot longer and if you decide to cruise for a bit then get back on it, the tyre can lose it's optimal temp, causing you to find you didn't have the grip you had before.
I know the supercorsa comes in a road based compond.
If i run a racetec or the likes on the rear of any of my bigger bore bikes, i'm lucky to see 1400km from new, road tyres even luckier to see 2000km, the only reason i go for them sometimes is i'm a cheap bastard and i know a few racers.
Out of the two road options i'd have to say the Diablo. even though i dont speak highly of them, there are a few that i know that get along well on them, haven't had any experiance with the bridgie, so cant comment there.

[White trash]

80 degrees is the correct opperating temp young Bruce, well done.

I used to get 3000km out of a set of Super Corsas on my 600, I thought that was pretty good.
Most I ever got out of Racetecs on the thou' was 1600 kays but fuck me were they grippy.

Where the hell do you get racetechs for $500 a pair fitted? Thats good buying.

PS. Bridgestone 012s are old shit. Whoever's trying to sell them to you should be discounting the shit outta them as the 014 has been their replacement for 12 months now.

[Matt Bleck]

So would you recommend the pilot powers, loose bruce?

[Matt Bleck]

80 degrees is the correct opperating temp young Bruce, well done.

I used to get 3000km out of a set of Super Corsas on my 600, I thought that was pretty good.
Most I ever got out of Racetecs on the thou' was 1600 kays but fuck me were they grippy.

Where the hell do you get racetechs for $500 a pair fitted? Thats good buying.

PS. Bridgestone 012s are old shit. Whoever's trying to sell them to you should be discounting the shit outta them as the 014 has been their replacement for 12 months now.


I can get da 014's for the same price....

[loosebruce]

Yea i would recomend the powers, best road tyre i've used to date, and when you take into account the varied road conditions we can come across, they're the biz.
014's are pretty good from what i've heard too, dont think you'd be disspointed with either, see whats at the best price.

[crazylittleshit]

or some Metzler Racetech K2's for $500 (probably not a good idea cause I think these are along the same line as the supercorsa's?? But then $500 is a good price, arghhhhh)




You will be lucky to get 2000k's out of Racetech's Were did you get quoted $500?

P.s go battleaxe it's a good compramise. :niceone:

[bugjuice]

avon vipers..??

[WINJA]

PS. Bridgestone 012s are old shit. Whoever's trying to sell them to you should be discounting the shit outta them as the 014 has been their replacement for 12 months now.
TRUE , BUT THERES NO DOUBTING THE 012 IS STILL A GREAT TYRE , ITS STILL GOT MORE GRIP THAN 90% OF RIDERS CAN THROW AT IT AND THEY WORK WELL IN THE WET

[WINJA]

So would you recommend the pilot powers, loose bruce?
DONT BE PUT OFFBY A SOFTER GRIPIER TYRE , SOMETIMES THEY CAN LAST LONGER THAN A HARD ONE , IE IF THE HARDER LEAST GRIPPY ONE IS SLIDING ALL THE TIME IT WILL OFTEN WEAR QUICKER AND IS DEFINATELY MORE DANGEROUS , DEPENDS HOW YOU RIDE

[aff-man]

Feck 4000km out of super corsa's!!!!!!

I have just gone through my first set of tyres on the gixxer. M1's and I got a little over 4000km out of them...

Will be purchacing ex-racies for the next one cause i suffer poor student syndrome and i have never had a really sticky tyre.... racetechs here i come....

[shadow]

oh yeah someone was tryin to tell me that Metzelers & Pirelli's where made by the same factory, just different tred pattern's! Can anyone confrim this.


iv just been told the same thing after taking of rennsports to fit diablo corsa's was news to me as well. i got my new diablo corsa's of trade me for $500 which i thought was ok and a bit more towards a road tyre than the supercorsa's iv only done a couple of rides and dont care about ks im going to get, but they hold on well havnt had a moment and took it through queen charlot drive which is real twistie and we were pushing reasonably hard. all good so far

[nsrpaul]

queen charlot drive , wicked ride

[Matt Bleck]

You will be lucky to get 2000k's out of Racetech's Were did you get quoted $500?

P.s go battleaxe it's a good compramise. :niceone:

It's a deal the local club as sourced, I'm not really sure with whom tho....

[SimJen]

Metz Sportec M1's, last reasonably well 4000k+ and a lot longer lasting than Racetechs. Grip well in the wet/dry and warm up fast.
Last rear was $240 or so from Boyds in Hams.
My Metz. has made in Germany on the side, Pirelli's are made in Italy aren't they.

[DEATH_INC.]

Pirelli own Metzeler,but they are still run independently,so the racetec and corser are quite different tyres.
I recommend Dunlop 218's,though if mileage is an issue run a 220 rear and 218 front,they'll grip better than you'll ever need on the road,and even hold up well on the track.

[NinjaBoy]

Metz Sportec M1's, last reasonably well 4000k+

I must be a real nana, I got 7000K out of the M1's and two trackdays.

[Dafe]

I put a new Michelin Pilot Sport tyre on my bike three weeks ago and 1000km ago, they are now under the legal WOF tread depths.
Thats one track day and a couple of Rimutaka runs.
I'm keen to try something that will last longer too.

[jimbo600]

Metz Sportec M1's, last reasonably well 4000k+ and a lot longer lasting than Racetechs. Grip well in the wet/dry and warm up fast.
Last rear was $240 or so from Boyds in Hams.
My Metz. has made in Germany on the side, Pirelli's are made in Italy aren't they.

I'd agree. Sportec M1's are the go. Great tyre for the road and probably the best value too. If it's just road riding your doing then put these on.

[aff-man]

I'd agree. Sportec M1's are the go. Great tyre for the road and probably the best value too. If it's just road riding your doing then put these on.

Ok thought i'd post an update. Well after a few km under 5000 the front and rear M1's are completely shagged. Got me a pair of ex-racy reacetechs though. Havn't been able to give them a good fang yet (maybe this weekend hopefully) but so far it's like the bike is running on rails. And i ended up haveing the first go on them on monday night in the wet and they had just been put on. Was a little cautious at first but no worries what so ever.

Will update when i have given them a proper fang but hell if they are like this just tootling here and there i can't wait to get out there:banana:

[aff-man]

I must be a real nana, I got 7000K out of the M1's and two trackdays.

How the hell did you manage that!!! I have only Had the bike 2 1/2 months done a little under 5000km and they are both shagged. Being a poor student would you mind sharing you're secret??

[cowpoos]

piloet powers get my vote...had em fitted,balenced.etc....$439 front and rear
had another two rears since $250ea...just had a new front on today $195

seems cheaper to buy as a pair!

grippi-est tyres I've used on the road...never tried metz...but tried dunlops/bridg [both not at the same level as pirelli and mich] avon/mich/pirelli

if you don't ride hard...get a deal on just about any top level sports tyre!!
shop around and forget the brand names...just the $$$$

[aff-man]

piloet powers get my vote...had em fitted,balenced.etc....$439 front and rear
had another two rears since $250ea...just had a new front on today $195

seems cheaper to buy as a pair!

grippi-est tyres I've used on the road...never tried metz...but tried dunlops/bridg [both not at the same level as pirelli and mich] avon/mich/pirelli

if you don't ride hard...get a deal on just about any top level sports tyre!!
shop around and forget the brand names...just the $$$$

What do you do if you ride hard???

[Toast]

piloet powers get my vote...had em fitted,balenced.etc....$439 front and rear
had another two rears since $250ea...just had a new front on today $195

seems cheaper to buy as a pair!

grippi-est tyres I've used on the road...never tried metz...but tried dunlops/bridg [both not at the same level as pirelli and mich] avon/mich/pirelli

if you don't ride hard...get a deal on just about any top level sports tyre!!
shop around and forget the brand names...just the $$$$

Good lord that's cheap!!! That was $439 fitted?!! Give that shop a bump shout out!

Like everyone else who's tried them, I agree that Pilot Powers are this shiz...but I am keen to try some racetecs one day...especially as Powers do go 'off' on the track after a good string of hard laps, especially if the pressures drop too much (front went off after 3 laps on me once...then realised that I had 26psi in it...ooops).

[cowpoos]

What do you do if you ride hard???

PM shaun harris [user name: shaun] and see if he'll sell you some second hand tyres off one of the race bikes

[cowpoos]

Good lord that's cheap!!! That was $439 fitted?!! Give that shop a bump shout out!
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had the pair I brought from a christchurch motor cycle tyre place...can't remeber the name of the place...the chch boy will probally know...the owner always brattles on about when he was racing...lol...he's a bit of a dick but cheap...and yeah fitted and balanced

[Lou Girardin]

What do you do if you ride hard???

Get a well paid job?