top gear tonight

[scooterboynz]

any one see top gear tonight? they were saying that in the UK motorcylcles are going to have their exhaust noise limited to 70 odd decibels ,,, and any one caught with a noisey exhaust can have it confiscated!
we dont know how lucky we are ! hope it never happens here!

[kro]

It will happen here.

If whinging residents can have Western springs raceway limited to a certain level, then some beauracrat will decide that exhausts need to be tamed.

I remember reading a bike mag years ago, about noise tests on bikes in the UK, and the method was to put a unidirectional microphone on a racetrack/quater mile track, get the bike off the mark, the hook 2nd, and wind it full open past the mike. They could not get noise tests dont on the V-Max or FJ1100, because both of them would just light the back wheel, creating a hell of a racket.

Bad thinking there fellas

[James Deuce]

70dB is about the same sound level as a lightly snoring baby.

[sAsLEX]

It will happen here.

If whinging residents can have Western springs raceway limited to a certain level, then some beauracrat will decide that exhausts need to be tamed.

I remember reading a bike mag years ago, about noise tests on bikes in the UK, and the method was to put a unidirectional microphone on a racetrack/quater mile track, get the bike off the mark, the hook 2nd, and wind it full open past the mike. They could not get noise tests dont on the V-Max or FJ1100, because both of them would just light the back wheel, creating a hell of a racket.

Bad thinking there fellas

well there is an international standard for noise measurement so I hope they would use that instead of making up their own mickey mouse one.....yeah right

http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/showpost.php?p=886&postcount=16

[WINJA]

LAWS LIKE THAT WILL JUST MEAN THE PIGS WILL HEAR THE SOUND OF A BIKE DOING A RUNNER MORE OFTEN , PEOPLE CAN ONLY BE PUSHED SO FAR TILL THEY JOIN ME ON THE DARK SIDE :devil2:

[WINJA]

CLARKSON IS A COCK , IN ONE SENTENCE HE TALKING ABOUT THE DB8 BEING HEARD FROM 2 MILES AWAY THEN HE CONDEMNS BIKES FOR BEING NOISY, PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE BEAURECATS START WITH ONE THING BEING NOISY THEN SHIFT TO THE NEXT , SO WHEN BIKE RIDERS LOSE THE CAR DRIVERS WILL BE NEXT

[Mr Skid]

and any one caught with a noisey exhaust can have it confiscatedSounds rather counter productive to me. :confused:

[Motu]

Trouble is in NZ it will work the other way - noisy cars will bring out controls that will effect bikes.

[Kickaha]

It will happen here.

If whinging residents can have Western springs raceway limited to a certain level, then some beauracrat will decide that exhausts need to be tamed.



The Residents were whinging because Western Springs had made no effort to comply with the noise regs already in place

[crash harry]

Something I've never understood is how boy racers are penalised for loud exhausts, pink stickered etc, and yet HD riders seem to be immune even though a lot of them are 10x louder?

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the police dealing with excessively noisy vehicles (although we may dissagree on what constitutes "excessive"...) but surely one rule for all?

I only say this because I used to live just off a fairly main road, and whilst the loudest vehicles on the road would have to be ported rotaries (HATE HATE HATE!) the ones that would wake me up at night would usually be gangs of HDs going by with straight pipes on.

And I've NEVER seen one pulled over. Is it because the police are scared of the gangs? (probly fair enough if they are... I would be...)

[WINJA]

Something I've never understood is how boy racers are penalised for loud exhausts, pink stickered etc, and yet HD riders seem to be immune even though a lot of them are 10x louder?

Don't get me wrong, I don't have a problem with the police dealing with excessively noisy vehicles (although we may dissagree on what constitutes "excessive"...) but surely one rule for all?

I only say this because I used to live just off a fairly main road, and whilst the loudest vehicles on the road would have to be ported rotaries (HATE HATE HATE!) the ones that would wake me up at night would usually be gangs of HDs going by with straight pipes on.

And I've NEVER seen one pulled over. Is it because the police are scared of the gangs? (probly fair enough if they are... I would be...)
THE POLICE SHOULD ALSO BE TICKETING NOISY BUSES

[Swoop]

CLARKSON IS A COCK , IN ONE SENTENCE HE TALKING ABOUT THE DB8 BEING HEARD FROM 2 MILES AWAY THEN HE CONDEMNS BIKES FOR BEING NOISY, PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE BEAURECATS START WITH ONE THING BEING NOISY THEN SHIFT TO THE NEXT , SO WHEN BIKE RIDERS LOSE THE CAR DRIVERS WILL BE NEXT

Clarkson is a bit of a bike-o-phobic all right! And so much for his integrity by agreeing to the manufacturer that he would not reveal any information.....
There is abit more about the bike noise topic on the topgear website I believe. I googled "Jeremy Clarkson" and found some of his weekly articles and it was amongst them. Will try to re-find and post link!

[parsley]

THE POLICE SHOULD ALSO BE TICKETING NOISY BUSES
What about bloody trucks? They're far noisier than bikes and cars.

[The Pastor]

CLARKSON IS A COCK , IN ONE SENTENCE HE TALKING ABOUT THE DB8 BEING HEARD FROM 2 MILES AWAY THEN HE CONDEMNS BIKES FOR BEING NOISY, PEOPLE FORGET THAT THE BEAURECATS START WITH ONE THING BEING NOISY THEN SHIFT TO THE NEXT , SO WHEN BIKE RIDERS LOSE THE CAR DRIVERS WILL BE NEXT

He has vaild point, he was talking about shitty sports bikes ;) the sound of a sports bike only appeals to sport bike riders, IMOPO they sound shit. Cruisers and big cars sound good. Think of it like big bore's and BOV's they sound utter tripe to most people except the dickwad who drives it at 8000rpm in the mall parking lot. But when you hear a lambo drive past with a mean low grumble (and the looks to go with it btw) its nice. Same with cruisers Looks+ sounds = good. Sports bikes arnt built for looks or for sounds so I win.


I do like sports bikes, and I agree with myself, they sound shit. I did own one, for a little while :)

[sAsLEX]

But when you hear a lambo drive past with a mean low grumble (and the looks to go with it btw) its nice.

Sports bikes arnt built for looks or for sounds so I win.


oh I am sorry Ducati must of changed their sounds and started making shit looking bikes
<img src=http://www.ducatitech.com/bikes/916.jpg>

[gamgee]

oh I am sorry Ducati must of changed their sounds and started making shit looking bikes
<img src=http://www.ducatitech.com/bikes/916.jpg>
oh now look what you made me go and do, ffs, wheres the tissues? :eek5:

[N4CR]

oh I am sorry Ducati must of changed their sounds and started making shit looking bikes
<img src=http://www.ducatitech.com/bikes/916.jpg>

Yeah those 916's sound and look sooo 'GHEY'. Not.

I LOVE exotic sports car sounds, I also love the high pitched 'spooling up' sound of an IL4 sports bike getting thrashed around. I love the air filling sound of a ducci vtwin going past with race pipes.

Dunno why renegade thinks they sound shiiet to be honest.

[SARGE]

Dunno why renegade thinks they sound shiiet to be honest.



what kinda bike does Renegade own again? :bash: :Oops:

[James Deuce]

Sorry, someone remind to whom the renegade master shade account belongs?

I can never keep these things straight.

[SlowHand]

Tristoner -inline fours "spooling"? I guess ur 250 does rev insanely high. and tiny things look like the size of a turbo, and you ARE gay...

I dont know if bikes will get targeted though, its like the boy racer issue, but you dont see V8 drivers complaining about tickets for loud exhausts. I guess its how "bad ass" we can look (wear KB shirt, we are apparently asshole hooligans that partake in shinanigans), and how much the cops like the smell of the sweet sweet 2strokes.
You 4 strokers lose out.

[Karma]

What about bloody trucks? They're far noisier than bikes and cars.


Mate... I live underneith the main flightpath from the US into Auckland Airport.

Planes are REALLY noisy.

[M1CRO]

They were also talking about some other car - I forget which one (I blame age! lol) - but it apparently has an "exhaust valve/flap" so when going hard out, the flap opens and you can hear it two miles away!! Thats what started the "noise" debate..

[gamgee]

They were also talking about some other car - I forget which one (I blame age! lol) - but it apparently has an "exhaust valve/flap" so when going hard out, the flap opens and you can hear it two miles away!! Thats what started the "noise" debate..
that was the new DB9 sounds like a similar idea to the exup on the fzr's

[N4CR]

Tristoner -inline fours "spooling"? I guess ur 250 does rev insanely high. and tiny things look like the size of a turbo, and you ARE gay...


'Spooling' word is usually reserved for turbos and jets... but yeah if you have it in a high gear and just roll from down on it sounds pretty darn cool!

V8's can quite often come factory that loud, anything factory loud is legal eg screamin eagle pipes for harleys can be done at factory/are factory parts from memory so that should be fine.

Il4 4's > two storks ya freak :done:

[SlowHand]

Im sure the factory thing dont count for shit if the cop has an itchy left nut, or if he hears you talking "boyracer" again.

Anywho, 70dB is ridiculous!!!

[James Deuce]

Anywho, 70dB is ridiculous!!!

Yes it is. I guarantee chain drive will produce at least 70dB.

[avgas]

The Residents were whinging because Western Springs had made no effort to comply with the noise regs already in place
As resisdent in the area i can tell you that while the speedway wasnt complying with the reg's. The at least werent pissing me off every 2 weeks....all year. Unlike eden park.
Whenever i come home from work and there is a game on, my road is bumper to bumper with cars on both sides, and the fuckers dont park on the grass.....no they leave 2 feet from the gutter so they dont kerb they're shitty mags.
End result is a 2 lane road turns into a 3/4 lane mayhem.
Im at the point now where i turn into my road and boot it..... so if your on the other end, you better slam your vehicle in reverse cos i wont be stopping so you can do a 300-point-turn to get out of my way.

[avgas]

THE POLICE SHOULD ALSO BE TICKETING NOISY BUSES
Yeh well i would love to see that happening.
One day we scored a dB meter for a lab and we tested a Stagecoach buss as it went past...... 128dB..... but getting everyone to take a train or walk would be a practical solution wouldnt it, ARC dont do practical

[Aiolos]

The valves alone on that ducati make 70dB.

[avgas]

He has vaild point, he was talking about shitty sports bikes ;) the sound of a sports bike only appeals to sport bike riders, IMOPO they sound shit. Cruisers and big cars sound good. Think of it like big bore's and BOV's they sound utter tripe to most people except the dickwad who drives it at 8000rpm in the mall parking lot. But when you hear a lambo drive past with a mean low grumble (and the looks to go with it btw) its nice. Same with cruisers Looks+ sounds = good. Sports bikes arnt built for looks or for sounds so I win.
I do like sports bikes, and I agree with myself, they sound shit. I did own one, for a little while :)
The one thing that saphire likes to eat more than her usual diet (tyres, fuel, tarseal).....its trolls :devil2:

[Otis243]

any one see top gear tonight? they were saying that in the UK motorcylcles are going to have their exhaust noise limited to 70 odd decibels ,,, and any one caught with a noisey exhaust can have it confiscated!
we dont know how lucky we are ! hope it never happens here!


The problem in "reform Brittain" at the moment is that it is easier for the authorities to claim they are addressing the problem (in this case) of too loud "not for highway use" bike exhausts by introducing new laws rather than enforce the existing law.

I have heard that there are proposals to reduce bike noise limits (which are greater than the limits for cars). However, I can't believe 70db when my lawnmower has a sticker on it saying 104db !!! :wacko:

[Lou Girardin]

The valves alone on that ducati make 70dB.

Clutch chatter is louder still.

[John]

Clutch chatter is louder still.
dropping a sinker in the bog is louder STILL.

[ManDownUnder]

I see my RF900 (with a standard can) is rated at 91 db (A) at 5k revs...

74??? Yeah right.

I'm not a fan of loud exhausts, but less of a fan for stupid legislation. What about cars? Does the same (or similar) apply?

What %age of bikes come off the production line achieving <74db anyway?

10?

AND there's the wee thought that bikes are invisible enough already - and now they're legislating away any audio cues... weren't the manufacturers of electric vehicles actually ADDING noise to their vehicles (speaker playing engine noises if memory serves...)

Anyone know how loud that's going to be?

AAAAAAARERRRRRRRRRRGGH Fwits - the lot of them
NK

[SlowHand]

dropping a sinker in the bog is louder STILL.

Ah the old problem. You need to manuevre yourself a bit. If its solid, try contracting evenly for as long as possible. You need to reduce the speed the bomb hits the water. You want the shape of a torpedo, so like a good diver, visualise the fall.

Next thing is to move your cheeks closer to the front. the contour of the bowl should slow mr. christmas down a tad - watchout tho as you can leave nasty skid marks. I prefer a power dump with this technique. get it over and faster. If you can't sit far up front, you can do a reverse bronco - where you sit the other way.

However, if its runny after a bad night on the chilli, your stuffed. Don't moan too loud as all your hard work will become undone.

Any probs PM me.

Cheer

Strat.

[John]

the bigger the plop the less you drop

[Lou Girardin]

I'd hazard a guess that chain noise would exceed 74db.

[eliot-ness]

I would imagine that Clarkson is pissing hmself as he scans through the biker sites. The guy sure knows how to stir bikers up. I reckon it's another of his piss takes and as usual he gets the bites. Wish my fishing was as successful as his.

[ManDownUnder]

<TABLE border=3><TBODY><TR><TD>Threshold of hearing

</TD><TD>0 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Motorcycle (30 feet)

</TD><TD>88 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Rustling leaves

</TD><TD>20 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Foodblender (3 feet)

</TD><TD>90 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Quiet whisper (3 feet)

</TD><TD>30 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Subway (inside)

</TD><TD>94 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Quiet home

</TD><TD>40 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Diesel truck (30 feet)

</TD><TD>100 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Quiet street

</TD><TD>50 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Power mower (3 feet)

</TD><TD>107 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Normal conversation

</TD><TD>60 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Pneumatic riveter (3 feet)

</TD><TD>115 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Inside car

</TD><TD>70 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Chainsaw (3 feet)

</TD><TD>117 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Loud singing (3 feet)

</TD><TD>75 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Amplified Rock and Roll (6 feet)

</TD><TD>120 dB

</TD></TR><TR><TD>Automobile (25 feet)

</TD><TD>80 dB

</TD><TD>

</TD><TD>Jet plane (100 feet)

</TD><TD>130 dB

</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Shame they don't say what a "typical" m/c is... but it's interesting. A similarly "typical" car is 80...

[SlowHand]

70db is INSIDE car? that's the modern cars.
Whats the deal if your singing loudly on a boik? Democracy? Facism? I really hope this doesnt happen here. Only lead to more draconian laws

[The Pastor]

oh I am sorry Ducati must of changed their sounds and started making shit looking bikes


There are exceptions to everything genius, of cource ducati's sound good, but as a generaliztaion (sp) sports bikes sound utter crap, I hate being at the lights and some joker pulls up (more like races up slams on the brakes and skids to a halt) with some tiny sports bike. The worst being 250cc 2 strokes....... Dont get me wrong, I love all kinds of bikes, sports, crusiers, everything inbetween, dirt bikes, scooters, mopeds the list goes on and on. The only bikes i dont like are BMW and a few other bikes but most sports sound crap.

End Of Story. rene wins again!!

[WRT]

... weren't the manufacturers of electric vehicles actually ADDING noise to their vehicles (speaker playing engine noises if memory serves...)

Wouldnt that be great for the boy racers . . . no need to go buying an expensive new exhaust to get that big bore sound, just upload a new .wav file to your car. Dont have a turbo but still want a blow off valve - no problem! Just record the sound next time your tagging some poor cunts wall and tell the car to play it every time you change gears.

Muppets . . .

And John - just drop some toilet paper in the bowl before you dump, makes for a great "bomb disarmer".