Sex, your opinion wanted. [Archive]

Motoracer

8th November 2005, 23:20

Hey everyone,

In the recent times I've just realised how things work in our society... After reading this, your views might change about me but anywho, I'm not too fussed as I just want to know your opinions.

In a nameless work enviroment that I am aware of, a number of young boys and girls, aged between 16 - 19 are employed. Looking at them, you'd think that they are just your average inocent teenage kids... Some even look as though they just came out of the Catholic high school.. Now I don't know if this is a surprise to most of you but all of these kids are HIGHLY sexually active.

To illustrate my point, I'll give an example. During a party, the girls have compitions amongst each other to see who can "hook up" with the most guys. At this party, the most inocent looking girl out of them all and the most quietest (when sober) was presumably the winner with a score of 26 different guys for that night. Some girls who managed to get under 20 guys felt insecure for not getting enough attention. Then all sorts of guys and girls with long term partners where also secretly involved in some one offs...

I am no saint.. I agree that when I was about 15-19, my hormons were also raging.. However I had always thought that sex was a special act between partners who cared about each other and I have pretty much only conducted the act with longer term partners. If hypothetically speaking, I were to hook up with 26 girls in a party like the alleged female worker mentioned above, I am certain that it would not be anywhere near as speacial or good in quality, when compaired to a situation where I just hooked up with one special female. This is a personal belife and not everyone will have the same belife. However I was just watching the news and per capita, kiwis are having more sex than the rest of the world on average by almost an additional 50%. Upto 65% of the people practice unprotected sex with people who's sexual history is unknown to them... Which puts us at 4th on the list in the entire world for this. When the survey asked people about the quality, it seems that we lack quality over quantity by a heavy margin. I know statistics can't always be trusted but I think it does say something.

I'm 21 and I know I am being weird or different and maybe my cultural back ground has probably influenced this. I know that guys my age are supposed to have fun out there but I prefer to have a special bond with 1 partner and have the same in return. The thought of having sex with someone out there in today's society, now raises new issues like, will there ever be a special bond where the partners can enjoy each other's company with the trust of each other's loyalty? If so, then will this be rare? Then the biggest issue of them all is STI. With sexual activity at an intensly high rate, how far are we from a wide spread epidemic (actually some STIs are already an epidemic in NZ).

I am not slaging Kiwis, cause lets face it, I have been here for 9 years now and I am pretty much one. This is just an issue that has been on my mind and I just wanted to hear some of your thoughts.

Please note that the occasional 1 night stands are completly different to the continues sexual acts with significantly large number of random people that you have no connectinons with in a short period of time, that I am talking about here. Such acts are cold in nature, in my perception anyway... It's something empty...

Last question, is it really today's youth or has things always been this way and I have just been too naieve, too blind and too preoccupied with my motorbikes through out my teenage years to know about it? Never mind how I see things cause I'm just a weirdo who loves a good love story and likes to live a life where "boy meets girl, they fall in love and live happily ever after"... I just want to hear your thoughts on the matter cause I really need to hear from people, what they think.

P.S. This post has nothing to do with my personal life. It is just my current outlook on our society.

Karma

8th November 2005, 23:28

Hard to tell really...

60s = hippys and free love
80s = anything anywhere
90s = acid trips and drugged up shags

something that's always happened really.. just changes form with every generation, we all try to rebel against the generation before.

Personally I'm of the opinion that sex with one person in the right place at the right time is about as good as it gets, even if that place and time is the stationary cupboard at school ;)

Oh... and who'd want to shag a bird that had just got through with 25 other blokes? Sloppy 26ths anyone?

shcabbeh

9th November 2005, 02:42

I'm 18 and I've never heard of that kind of party, except as like, a swingers thing which really doesn't happen with people my age. That I know of, anyway.

Sex has become like a drug, it's not special or sacred to anyone anymore. It's something you do more to tell other people about, I've found. Sad, but true. At least with most guys my age, there will be anomalies of course.

Oh yeah, I think 26 guys is fucken gross, to be honest. That's way over any line I'd draw to represent normal. Eesh.

Korea

9th November 2005, 04:12

During a party, the girls have compitions amongst each other to see who can "hook up" with the most guys.
Hey Motoracer ~ such pure and pious thoughts from a bike rider (don't you know we're supposed to be the spawn of satan?:devil2: ). It's endearing, don't ever change.

What was meant by 'Hook up'? What you might consider 'Hooking up' might be different from your innocent girl's idea.

Eg. A guy I met during a uni lecture was telling me about some hottie he'd met at the bar. He said he wasn't leaving the bar 'till he'd "scored".
Quote: "So I went over and scored her at the bar".
"You what???"
"Scored her at the bar. You know... kissed her."
Phew! My idea of 'scoring' at the bar would be followed shortly thereafter by getting arrested.

Even so, kissing 26 guys is just... unhygenic.:blah:

novaa300

9th November 2005, 05:50

Well we are bit lucky in malaysia..I haven't came across such wild party in my entire life..Well i'm talking about 26 years on planet earth in a city called Kuala Lumpur.. in our society , moral values and spiritual faith stand first .. But ya I can't denied i had sex with 3 different gals till now..but we started a relationship before we went deeper...Of course unprotected sex is a taboo for me and i'm lucky to receive an early sex education through school and media..

But again, protected sex seem nonsence for younger generation (15-19years old) cause they can't except or simply not aware about age alone is not a shield for STD exp HIV,SIPLIS and ect...

We can help them out...Just by getting closer to the younger generation and be open to them.. For a start, try to get em some adult CD which only feature stars practising protected sex...Make sure the stars using Condoms...Got it...Simple and very efficent... Trust me ..I got this from my Big Bro...See ya
Peace to all..

Novaa300 Malaysia

SARGE

9th November 2005, 06:01

i come from the Anything, Anywhere, Anytime generation of the 80's. ive had my share of one nighters, but 26 in one night???? thats just being a dirtbag. the kids will learn a hard lesson one day when someone they know ( from the party) comes down with AIDS/ HIV and they all freak out and run to the clinic.

back in my day , it was gonnoreha running rampant, but that was minor shit.. easily treated, not fatal etc...whats next? stick your dick in and it blows up??

darwinism man .. darwinism.. these little shit know nothing about respect, for themselves or anyone/thing else. they talk trash and dont have the stones to back it up,pop "Party Pills" like they were breath mints, graffiti all over everything, steal and generally run wild. we were loose when i was a kid, but not this frikkin loose ( thats a whole other rant)

i think the downfall of this generation started when the powers that be told us " you cant spank them anymore or you get tossed in jail"

fuck that .. my kid screws up bad enough, i will do just what my dad did to me when i did... boot in the ass and off comes the belt. ( PS.. i also praise him and tell him how proud i am of him when he does something good.. everything in balance danial-san)

*//end rant

btw.. the Anything, Anywhere, Anytime generation of the 80's produced peepz like INDY... :doh:

SixPackBack

9th November 2005, 06:18

Yup been there, nothing like 26 in a night but certainly 10 years of a continual rolling sexual maul...Its upsetting in the end and has long term effects as you never stop loving some partners.
Married now, 16 years and although the thrill of the chase is not there, its a far more satisfying lifestyle.
The truth is when your young hormones take over and you'd spend 24/7 hanging out of anything if you could.
I would have to say the behaviour you described I have never personally heard of or encountered. 'hook up' to my teenage daughter meens to kiss, not shag!

RiderInBlack

9th November 2005, 06:41

26 in one night!! Fu*k that pisses me off. Someone is using my quote. No wonder I'm not getting any:doh: Some peolpe are just fu*ken rabbits. Me, I'm a camel:whistle:

OK, done with the silly stuff. Maxium repect, young MR. When comes to sex "Quality" not "Quantity" is were it is at. Ooh, and guys, taking responibility for the results is also sign of being a real man (IMHO).

T.I.E

9th November 2005, 06:50

thats a big subject. and your right i think society has changed and moved on.
divources are way up. breaks ups are everywhere. and the sancantity (if i have spelt that right) or marriage and relationships is now changing.
if the first guys had aids/hiv what do the rest of them get? here is a present.
it's not the same and i have got no idea where love has gone. does not play a part anymore.
and new zealanders we are not safe. where is the protection?
these are great and valid points you have brought up.
things that should be addressed.

GO DESTINY CHURCH

***waits for the remarks*****

SuperDave

9th November 2005, 06:58

'Hook up' is a highly ambigous term not always relating to intercourse.

Motu

9th November 2005, 07:02

The blokes gathered in one end of the hall,the sheilas at the other end,the blokes drank beer out of big bottles or half gees,the sheilas drank cups of tea.

But I was around in the ''love generation''....sounds pretty good,but I didn't see none of that.I think chicks were a bit leary of us,dunno why,we were lonely deep thinkers - but we partied hard,rode British bikes and shunned the establishment.... they maybe found us a bit scary,which was kinda funny really.

I don't know much about what goes on these days,even though I have daughters.But I've seen enough parties - it all seems kinda....pointless,they are all trying so HARD to...to...make it the biggest,bestest most wildest party ever,but it's just crazy,really young chicks just sculling bottles of wine or harder booze,the guys downing beer after beer just to get as out of it as possible....it's like a competion,what all the talk will be about at school next week.

At least we had motivation,something to fight against and take a stand...all we had to do was not cut our hair,not wash our clothes....no effort required to be bad arse and look scary.....

Drunken Monkey

9th November 2005, 07:17

Motoracer dude, when you get older you'll realise, as an 'older man', all you want to do is shag 26 15-19 y.o. girls in one night then brag about it to your mates anyway. Anything to make your ex-wife/ex-girlfriend hate you even more... ;)

sels1

9th November 2005, 07:29

Sparky Bills

9th November 2005, 07:43

Wholy crap mate! Thats DEEP!:rockon:

parsley

9th November 2005, 07:48

However I was just watching the news and per capita, kiwis are having more sex than the rest of the world on average by almost an additional 50%.
If Kiwis are having all this sex then where's mine? :angry:

heavenly.talker

9th November 2005, 07:50

I was brought up to believe that relations were very special and that they should be saved for people I had a connection with.
My niece has been hooking up (having sex) with random's since she was 13 and her parents refused to believe it when the family gently broached the subject.
They are now shocked that she has moved in with a guy after only knowing him 5 months and that she is only 18.

She has been around the clock 2 or 3 times already!!!

With all the safe sex messages out there it's horrifying to think that kids are not riding in their wets!

Colapop

9th November 2005, 07:52

To be perfectly honest to have shagged 26 guys in a night is bullshit, it's a wind up. I mean how long does it take for a shag? 10mins on average (that's the poking aspect of things) so adding in all the usual pleasantries it could safely be assumed that 20 -30mins between shags would be about right. She'd have tohave been 'on the go' for 12 hours straight. Unless this party that was attended was an all naked party with no alcohol then I'm sorry to say I can't see that she would have got it away with that many guys in a night - the way kids drink these days there wouldn't have been enough standing. Are there any hookers out there who've done that many tricks in a night?

Sex is great. I love it. Sex for sport is great - IF you can be ABSOLUTELY %100 sure that each and every person you have sex with is a) totally sexually healthy (enough said about tha- speaks for itself), b) mentally healthy (do you really need another stalker?) and c) capable of understanding and accepting the consequences of the act of procreation (it's about making babies in a natural sense)
I'm trying to teach my kids the 3 R's - Responsibilty for your actions, Respect for yourself, and Respect for others. They are all equally as important as each other.
**Another parental rant done!**

Lou Girardin

9th November 2005, 07:52

One thing hasn't changed between generations.
Take the number of partners quoted, deduct their age, divide by 2, then halve the result.
That'll be closer to the truth.

Drunken Monkey

9th November 2005, 07:55

Postie

9th November 2005, 07:59

Some even look as though they just came out of the Catholic high school..

During a party, the girls have compitions amongst each other to see who can "hook up" with the most guys. At this party, the most inocent looking girl out of them all and the most quietest (when sober) was presumably the winner with a score of 26 different guys for that night. Some girls who managed to get under 20 guys felt insecure for not getting enough attention.

Catholic school girls..... dude.... wheres the invites??? we can knock up the numbers so every one can have 26......

*sic

9th November 2005, 08:08

hmm sad times that occasionally make me despair at the general public, but hey im all for it, when i see peeps get their rashes, and fall over from teh aids, i can smile.

its not for me but i really dont care to much about what people do in their sex lives, as long as the girl with me is not nasty.

riffer

9th November 2005, 08:18

While I doubt the veracity of the 26 guys in one night, it's more than likely they are talking about kissing, rather than sex.

Either way, its indicative of the lack of respect, both for others and themselves, that young people have.

Through my teenage years and early 20s, I played in bands throughout the country, and was exposed to a lot of this stuff.

I don’t feel that kids have changed too much. However, there seems to be a bit of shift in the female attitude. Girls show a lot more competitiveness, and even pride, in their sexual exploits, something that just WOULDN'T have happened in the 80s.

Your attitudes are to be applauded, Motoracer. They’re not different. You just show a lot more maturity than many of your peers.

Good on ya.

Colapop

9th November 2005, 08:30

... Any woman could easily have 5 on the go at once.

:sick: :puke: :puke: :puke: :puke: Yeah... man ... not much else to say about that

Lias

9th November 2005, 08:34

Normally when a chick is shagging 26 guys in a night, shes paying off a debt on the block :-P

Paul in NZ

9th November 2005, 08:35

I suspect there is a small percentage in every generation that carries on in this manner, just as there is others at the opposite end of the scale. It may be the current crop is a larger group than previous ones, perhaps due to issues like a lower drinking age and media driven peer pressures, or it may just be you are seeing this group first hand.

Btw, good on you for airing your concern

My background was more like Motus but I agree with what Sels1 says.

As a young man my hormones were just as active as anyone elses but this kind of activity has never ever appealed to me in the slightest. Yet I'm equally sure that some of the things I find sexy or erotic, others would find bland or even disgusting.... Like someone mentioned the Catholic Schoolgirl thing? Why? Sorry, don't get it and personally find it dodgy.

At one time there was a 'group' that worked in a fairly high tech area of the large organisation I was employed by, that organised regular socials within their area. Much was drunk and it was apparent that virtually everyone of them had at some stage or other had relations with each other... Yes the good old wife swapping days of the late 70's early 80's... Looking back, I think that really this sort of extreme sexual behaviour has appeared in nearly every society from the earliest days. Even in devoutly Muslim countries, I'll bet there are places where this happens, they are just a lot more secretive about it.

One observation I did make was that despite the "Oh we have an open relationship" bullshit, none of these couples survived this period of their lives without some significant damage. It was fun for a few months but the hurt, pain and suffering lasted a hell of a lot longer...

Once, many many years ago, while I was saving for my OE and didn't have a social life to speak of.. I took a second 'cashie' night job at a little 'Adults Supply' store. I thought it would be 'exciting' but in actual fact it was terribly depressing and very very sad and I got out as soon as I could. Happy well adjusted couples looking for a little excitement were a rareity and most customers were hoping that you could solve all their lifes problems with a quick fix in a brown paper wrapping... Quite depressing and very educational.... Mostly, sex was the least of their issues!

I'd be the last person to impose my values on others but my experience is that love exists in the world and is worth the search. While sex is a factor in a relationship, without the love (and by comparison) it is just an empty rush of body fluids and hormones. After 27 years together I have to say every year is better than the last and rather than being bored, I feel that I can relax and be myself with a person I don't need to appologise to or impress.

You probably can't help these people. They have been sucked in by the glossy magazines and the music videos and you will just appear uncool... Good on you for bringing it up but don't stress.. For every group like this there is a balancing act at the other end of the spectrum and all us muddlers in the middle.... Always has been, always will be.... (but I do think the graph is becoming a barbell rather than a bell curve these days)

Postie

9th November 2005, 08:38

Normally when a chick is shagging 26 guys in a night, shes paying off a debt on the block :-P

by hooking up, i am pretty sure M R is talking about kissing.....

ManDownUnder

9th November 2005, 09:01

20 - 26 sex partners in one night?!?

yeah - not good. It's a peer pressure thing - needing to keep up witht he mates and if that's the reason they're doing it they need help with their insecurities and naivety. They're young, they're experimenting and that's natural. But to push it that far that fast for those reasons is like hanging out a sign asking for a dose of the clap.

They may as well get the clap from a pill... it'd be safer - and then they'd know what clap(s) they're getting. With HIV and the various other STDs going around it's NOT something you want to open yourself up to. Who knows what the future will hold... unwanted/unplanned children, infertility, children born with disability, HIV ... the list goes on

It's a sad situation but it seems the young and bulletproof need to find some things out for themselves. Just as we do with the risks of motorcycling. There are some on here that have taken a spill, and with respect - it didn't really come as a great surprise. Their behaviour combined with their inexperience simply increased their changes of becoming a statistic.

In seeing those accidents we (hopefully) learn, get shocked and modify what we're doing... hopefully... in respect of sex there's a difference however because of the embarassment (who's going to admit to having the clap?) and/or HIV doesn't show up on tests (reliably) for 90 days... let's say they ease back to a "mere" 10 partners a week... and take 1 week's rest every months that.... (mental math here) that about 100 people possibly exposed to it.

.. great..

Now that all being said, and to HIGHLY generalise... there seems to be a clear delineation between those that "get" (i.e. understand) sex as a fun thing to do, possibly a pastime, and those that are more reserved about it.

I'm obviously in the *ahem* former category but even so see the need to put it in context. Despite the tone and BS in the posts I make... it ain't a contest. It's about fun, satisfaction (of your partner AND you), and closeness.

That's the way things have always been, but as someone else mentioned - it is then affected by the culture of the time. the 60's, the 70's etc. There was a time when penicillin was on hand and HIV wasn't around (mid 40's through '82 or so) when sex actually wasn't such a risk activity per se. Now it is, and we have the added "benefit" of the internet allowing people to meat up almost at random, at very short notice and as a result we're seeing record levels of STIs raging across the country.

It's hard to stop and think about that when the brain is flooded with hormones and you have a very attractive piece of anatomy wanting everything you've got. Combine that with the inability of the young to reasonably evaluate risk (see other posts made on frontal lobe development) and it's easy to see how/why we have an issue on our hands.

I think that's all I wanted to say... MR - brilliant post chap... seriously good.
MDU

ManDownUnder

9th November 2005, 09:15

GO DESTINY CHURCH

Where do you want them to go??

kerryg

9th November 2005, 09:54

I'm surprised. Pretty much every poster has the same opinion i.e. reckless promiscuity is a bad idea. Who would have thought it?

I think the 26 "hook-ups" (whatever that is) is at least an exaggeration, if not an outright mistake, but the point of view expressed by Motoracer is good to read. I reckon (almost can remember...it was a long time ago admittedly) young males are mostly always up for nookie, whenever/however it was offered, driven by hormones not logic. Offer a hungry man something to eat, he'll eat it. It may not be PC to say it, and I don't exempt males from responsibility, but I reckon the problem is that young women these days are educated to see sex as sport (young men always thought it was) rather than as the ultimate expression of intimacy reserved for someone they care about. I don't watch the TV programs or read the trashy magazines or go to the crappy movies but even so I am aware of the female stereotypes being broadcast at my daughters. Those "celebrities" are dressed like hookers, are very overtly sexualised, self-assertive, equal to men (hey..they always were, but being "as good as" doesn't have to mean being "the same as"). People will always have sex, young men will always grab it when its offered, ...it's a pity though that the last most precious act of physical expression humans are capable of is being sold for so cheap a price.

I know of a case, very close to me, where a 12 year old girl was caught having sex with a 15 year old boy. When her shocked and confused father asked her what she could possibly have been thinking, she replied " it's my body, what's your problem?". There was ABSOLUTELY no recognition of the importance of the act. This is what our children are being taught. Go figure.

Karma

9th November 2005, 10:00

But again, protected sex seem nonsence for younger generation (15-19years old) cause they can't except or simply not aware about age alone is not a shield for STD exp HIV,SIPLIS and ect...

Any lets not forget the biggest STD of them all.... pregnancy!

How many of us here do you think can claim to being a late night drunken mistake their parents made 23 years ago? :crybaby:

Biff

9th November 2005, 11:31

I've had a couple of catholic schoolgirls as girlfriends in my time (I was around the same age before you accuse me of being a paediatrician), and they were both 'fun'.

Anyhoo - 26 in one night - bullshit or plain sick.

Kiwis being highly promiscuous - bugger. Why didn't I move here years ago?

Differentiating between sex and 'making love' - I'm with you there mate. A shag is just that. A (mostly) nice physical feeling, but involves little or no emotion. That's how I can understand why swingers do what they do, swapping partners etc. If you can truly differentiate between sex and making love with the one you love, then where's the harm? You don't get worried by any perceived threat posed, because you know she loves you and that there is no emotion involved with the other person (male or female). And then you can make love with your lover afterwards sharing the erotic experience.

Am I going off at a tangent here? And no - I'm not a swinger. But I'll try anything once...

Cibby

9th November 2005, 11:53

I think MR poses some very valid points here..

The actual act is diffently degraded significantly, it holds no value in the eyes of a lot of people and i dont think people realise the damage it actaully does..

In saying that..

How many people are actually celebate inbetween relationships????? Or is it the norm to have multiple partners.. Even the term "friends with benifits" or "fuck buddies" is pretty common now...

MR makes reference to it being a young person thing.. like a teenage thing.. which i agree with, however as adults, what sort of image do we put across simply because we believe we are adults therefore we can do what we what??
Is there no responsbility placed on us to be good role models in and out of relationships?? or is the high youth pregnancy/STI rate simply a result of a degradation of our socient due to high divorce rates/and general collapse of the moral soceity..

:hitcher: :hitcher: :hitcher:

*argh, i cant believe i just called myself an adult... **

Hitcher

9th November 2005, 11:55

I agree that when I was about 15-19, my hormons were also raging
As long as your Mormons were under control, no harm should have been done...

jrandom

9th November 2005, 12:03

as adults...

*argh, i cant believe i just called myself an adult... *

I was about to make that point until you made it for me.

high youth pregnancy/STI rate simply a result of a degradation of our socient due to high divorce rates/and general collapse of the
moral soceity wibble wobble olé f'tang f'tang biscuitbarrel.

:hitcher: :hitcher: :hitcher:

me, I think its just because kids are dumb and horny. very dumb, and very horny.

Biff

9th November 2005, 12:09

kids are horny

I prefer humans to young ruminants.

ManDownUnder

9th November 2005, 12:11

I prefer humans to young ruminants.

You didn't grow up in Otago then...

SPman

9th November 2005, 12:15

I'd be the last person to impose my values on others but my experience is that love exists in the world and is worth the search.

Believe It!

Or not......

Pathos

9th November 2005, 12:39

Nah the just meant kissing, a girl who went through more than 1 a night would be called a whore/slut/slag/etc for the rest of her life. I was at school only 2 years ago so I should know...

fische

9th November 2005, 12:40

i think you can have as many partners as you want. the consequences are yours so what's the big deal?

ManDownUnder

9th November 2005, 12:47

i think you can have as many partners as you want. the consequences are yours so what's the big deal?

If you mean yours and yours alone... doesn't that kinda rule out partners?

And if you don't mean yours and yours alone - doesn't spreading something kinda make a mockery of what you said?

parsley

9th November 2005, 13:02

me, I think its just because kids are dumb and horny. very dumb, and very horny.
So how is this different from you?

jrandom

9th November 2005, 13:13

So how is this different from you?

I'm not dumb.

kerryg

9th November 2005, 13:30

i think you can have as many partners as you want. the consequences are yours so what's the big deal?

Of course you can, it's a free country and grown-up people can make their own choices. It's different if we're talking about kids who lack the maturity and judgement to make good choices. I think that's where Motoracer 's original post was aimed, at least that's how I took it.

oldrider

9th November 2005, 13:59

The only thing difference from today and yesterday (Year Dot) is the degree of the behaviour.
Nothing is new, just new to some people.
The sexual behaviour of girls today resembles the behaviour of homosexual men over the ages.
Again the prevalence is in a direct ratio to the degree of social acceptance. We have the pill and women's rights to thank for the degree of change now more publicly "accepted" among women of today. It follows today's homosexual acceptance as normal.
I can remember and have partaken in my youth of all that has been described on this thread excluding homosexual behaviour of which I only have experience as an observer. (I spent 4yrs at sea on 7 different ships as a Marine Engineer)
Prior to recent social changes in acceptance, all of these things were carried out off shore at sea etc now they are becoming part and parcel of our children's lives as "normal". Get used to it you have the government of your choice and the one this country deserves.
When I was a child the Brian Tamakis of the time ruled our lives. We escaped that only for the political pendulum to swing too far the other way as this thread suggests. Because of today's excesses the Tamakis of tomorrow will drag the pendulum back and we all just loose some more freedom. That's the way it goes get used to it or take more notice of the politics around you and do something about it. It is certainly not news to me, just bloody disappointing. John.

Motu

9th November 2005, 14:19

We weren't so sexualy ''active'' as young teenagers are these days.Although I went to a co ed school,the academic classes were mixed - but they kept us technical boys and the commercial girls as far apart as possible,opposite sides of the school and assembly hall,it was obviously certain trouble to let us,who had been together in primary school,mix.

Later in life I hung out with a crowd that normal types might of considered somewhat um,shady - my friends were obviously habitual criminals and drug dealers,you could tell that from just one look at them....'bet they're into free sex too y'know'...but far from it,and the girls who were around could take care of themselves,they weren't ''available'' for free use by any means.We were quite orthodox rebels....kinda sad looking back....

But I once worked for a large company,and couldn't quite believe the social ''activity'' amoungst the staff.One guy whose wife worked in the factory got crabs off his missus - and half the workshop had crabs,we all knew who it was.It was bloody crazy and I wanted nothing to do with them.

Charlie

9th November 2005, 14:21

Theres an artical on page A3 in todays Dominion Post; "Randy Kiwis dont want to play it safe". Backs up with some nice wee stats. The frisky boys you gotta watch are apparently those aged 35-44.
Many people surveyed are saying a week and even a day is too long to go without; Cheers to that. :banana:

Charlie

9th November 2005, 14:28

I should add that regular sex is great, when shared with someone you love and care about. And for someone to be that; its gotta be about more than the shag.

Biff

9th November 2005, 15:41

The frisky boys you gotta watch are apparently those aged 35-44.

Wooohoooo - I turned 35 recently. I knew I was horny, but the ladies won't believe me. I need to print this off and show them.

Thanks Charlie.

GN1NiteStnd

9th November 2005, 15:50

The frisky boys you gotta watch are apparently those aged 35-44.

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
:sick:

my daddy's 41

:puke:

ManDownUnder

9th November 2005, 16:01

Whereabouts is this workplace you speak of MR??

I think I need to go have a chat with these young nympho's about the dangers of multi partners. They proly wont listen, then I'l have to go with the ol' adage, If ya cant beat em...

what a fucken hero (pun fully intended LOL)

Colapop

9th November 2005, 16:09

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
:sick:

my daddy's 41

:puke:

They are sick if they're looking for teenagers. I think (being almost as old as your daddy) that guys that age are looking for something a little more mature. (God that sounds so old!!!) "Honey get ma walkin' frame an' slippers we're heading upstairs!":sleep:

kro

9th November 2005, 16:13

i come from the Anything, Anywhere, Anytime generation of the 80's. ive had my share of one nighters, but 26 in one night???? thats just being a dirtbag.

Summed up well Sarge, I too was hormonal in the mid eighties till 1990, but hells bells, thats just ridiculous.

I'd say guys these days don't have to work up a sweat to get sex, they just invent slutty party idea's, sit back, and let it come to them.

Riff Raff

9th November 2005, 16:27

Yep I like sex. Thanks for asking.

:confused: errr, oops...

Paul in NZ

9th November 2005, 16:58

ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww
:sick:

my daddy's 41

:puke:

So... Who's your daddy?

(sorry - it HAD to be done)

WINJA

9th November 2005, 17:22

I TAKE IT MR GOT NO ACTION THEN

SlashWylde

9th November 2005, 17:49

Hey man, intersting topic and observations of curious behaviour by your peers....no actually MR I think I'm with you on this one. I now regard sex as being a special thing ideally to be shared between two people who love each other and have a bond rather that a transient recreational pursuit or mark of status...I definately prefer quality over quantity or numbers of partners.

When you're young you gotta fool around a bit to get some experience and have some fun whilst you are still young but ya gotta move on to more meaningful relationships. Trying to 'get with' as many people as you can in one night is pretty juvenile if you ask me.

If I was single and at a party I'd rather hit it off with one really fantasic girl I can really talk to and have a nice cuddle with, than go round snogging every girl in sight.

I'd say your feelings and beliefs show a maturity beyond your years. :niceone:

Skunk

9th November 2005, 17:51

The frisky boys you gotta watch are apparently those aged 35-44.Being in the middle of that age group all I can say is :cry:

John

9th November 2005, 18:12

god, I wont even tell you about what we get upto at work - and after ;)

my theory is if it aint bleeding its pleading... I know thats not really funny, but its seriously my theory, and those hookup contests fuck they a funny as, esp when you fuck up your mates hoe or sumin good stuff indeed, fuck till it falls off I say!

WINJA

9th November 2005, 18:20

SixPackBack

9th November 2005, 18:34

justsomeguy

9th November 2005, 18:35

I agree with you MR.

Sex is great - it's a lot of fun...... but at the end sex is sex --- sometimes we need a bit more.

There is a distinct difference between making love and sex.

The former is always special as there is the whole psychological aspect to it, the latter can become - rather mechanical - as in the end it is just a physical act.

soundbeltfarm

9th November 2005, 18:38

you got the address for those parties mate.
a root lost is a root never caught up on.
i'll stir the porridge hahaha
but alas im one ugly mutha fu*&a so i would leave feeling pretty stink when all the acne covered guys get laid and i dont.

KLOWN

9th November 2005, 18:41

The_Dover

9th November 2005, 18:50

As long as I'm first in the queue then I don't give a fuck who wants to stir my porridge..........

John

9th November 2005, 19:20

You own a TL now so you'll be sweet brother.
yea, just shove it in the exhaust and let it idle, BEST BLOW EVAAA!!!?!?!1

Marmoot

9th November 2005, 20:17

Well we are bit lucky in malaysia..I haven't came across such wild party in my entire life..

I think I'm missing something here. Lucky as in....(??)
:thud:

soundbeltfarm

9th November 2005, 20:20

You own a TL now so you'll be sweet brother.

true .
ive just got to tell the wife now that ive got a bike.
she only thinks i was looking at them.
it in the shed under its cover and i'll just start it up in the morning.
she'll come out looking

RiderInBlack

9th November 2005, 21:04

OK, lets think about this a bit. If they mean "Intercourse" when they say "Hooked Up With", she was really quick about it (less say 5mins each and no orgasm), only did them one at a time (and only once each), didn't have to waste time seducing, and they were already naked. 26 "Hook Ups" would take 130 minutes or 2 hours 10minutes flat out. Now take in account the time it would take the average drunk teen to strip (that would at least double the time needed) and having to find 26 willing "partners" (which would have to triple it), she would have been hard pushed (excuse the pun) to have done that many in the time it took the party to run it cause (IMHO).
So unless she meant "Hooked Up With" as something else then I think she's full of shit and was just trying to impress other teens.

SixPackBack

9th November 2005, 21:10

Unless she used a bucket of lube she wouldnt be walkin to well......Crusty aaaaarrrrggghhh

SPman

9th November 2005, 21:35

I agree with you MR.
Sex is great - it's a lot of fun...... but at the end sex is sex --- sometimes we need a bit more.

And more. . . and more. . . and more..........

Karma

9th November 2005, 21:42

she was really quick about it (less say 5mins each and no orgasm), only did them one at a time (and only once each), didn't have to waste time seducing, and they were already naked.

That doesn't sound like fun to me.

5mins and no orgasm? What's the point?

_Gina_

9th November 2005, 21:55

Oh to be young again......NOT!

I think I understand the universal message of more is better - unfortunately when it comes to teenagers, they kinda get hooked up into it even though they really do know better.

And yeah, making love with someone who you are free to be you with is something that can't be explained unless you have experienced it. In a fucked up way it is sooo intense that you could nearly cry...well maybe not the guys, lol.

If only you could show your teenagers the difference and explain that if they could get the whole making love thing then the sex comes for free!

Goddess of Goof

9th November 2005, 22:40

'Hook up' is a highly ambigous term not always relating to intercourse.

In another, earlier thread, I posted that I wanted to HOOK UP with KBers going to the Big Boys Toys on Saturday afternoon......

:eek5:

Well I meant HOOK UP as in "Meet ya there"

Cos sure as hell I didn't mean for groping, kissing or shagging .... well......not with helmets on, that's for sure....
:thud:

Motoracer

9th November 2005, 22:45

Usually when a girl says they've 'hooked up' it means they have 'made out' not had sex, this happens alot .I know plenty of girls who did this kinda thing when they were 15 - 18yrs. Competitions galore!

ATM, I'm working 14 hour days so I just got back and WOW, that's a lot of posts!

Sorry about the confusion but KLOWN has got it. When I said "hooked up", it means to make out and not have full sexual intercourse. Of course actual sexual intercourse is involved here as well but not every "hook up" means going all the way... 26 sounds like a high number but the girls at the party (I was there at the party) were more like athelits in a competitive sport, jumping and shoving their tongue from one guy's throat to the next in an attempt to out do the opponent. No I am not talking about a girl rooting 26 guys in one night even though she may have gone all the way with a few. It shocked me to begin with then made me a little sick.

In actual fact, talking to friends (around my age) around me, very few share my view. It is reassuring to see that quite a lot of you out there share a similar concern to mine.

Thank you for your posts, I have read every single one of them properly and I appreciate the input from everyone. It feels REALLY good to know that I am not alone in this :)

Thank you once again! :)

SixPackBack

10th November 2005, 06:03

All that to find out they are just kissing......big deal! sounds like a good laugh, and its pretty harmless.

The_Dover

10th November 2005, 06:15

Still, if you've got this chicks number and she aint a bush pig............

RiderInBlack

10th November 2005, 06:32

Ooh you mean "Pashing" (SP?) and "Snogging":doh: Big hairy deal. Woopdy-Do. No big deal. That was the aim of every High School dance even back it my days. 26 is going for it, but at least she was not being a "Slapper" and trying to "Fu*k"/"Shag" that many.

pyrocam

10th November 2005, 07:26

I guess there is this crowd in every community, alas in my younger days I never saw/heard of/imagined such a party taking place. closest I came was probably 'blossom (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0101050/)' trying to sneak out for a 'make out party'

you have a intresting outlook on such things MR but im pretty sure that kind of thing isnt going on with every teenager in NZ, hazarding a guess I would say the minority.

anyway. I leave you this educational advert to show your horny teenage friends:

Sniper

10th November 2005, 07:37

I have read most this thread and I can see where Motoracer is coming from (hehe, I said coming). Good on ya for caring mate.

Lou Girardin

10th November 2005, 07:42

All that to find out they are just kissing......big deal! sounds like a good laugh, and its pretty harmless.

Heard of meningicoccal disease? Or gladular fever? STD's?

Colapop

10th November 2005, 07:57

ATM, I'm working 14 hour days so I just got back and WOW, that's a lot of posts!

Sorry about the confusion but KLOWN has got it. When I said "hooked up", it means to make out and not have full sexual intercourse. Of course actual sexual intercourse is involved here as well but not every "hook up" means going all the way... 26 sounds like a high number but the girls at the party (I was there at the party) were more like athelits in a competitive sport, jumping and shoving their tongue from one guy's throat to the next in an attempt to out do the opponent. No I am not talking about a girl rooting 26 guys in one night even though she may have gone all the way with a few. It shocked me to begin with then made me a little sick.

In actual fact, talking to friends (around my age) around me, very few share my view. It is reassuring to see that quite a lot of you out there share a similar concern to mine.

Thank you for your posts, I have read every single one of them properly and I appreciate the input from everyone. It feels REALLY good to know that I am not alone in this :)

Thank you once again! :)

Nymphomania - everyone loves the concept but how many people understand it? Nymphomania is using sex to replace emotional attachments (basically). It can cause long lasting emotional and psychological damage. And if you consider these kids engaging in these behaviours then you gotta wonder what adults they're going to be.

So endeth the comment from Dr Bob.

The_Dover

10th November 2005, 07:58

Shit, did any of you guys ever get laid as teenagers? Do you get laid now?

parsley

10th November 2005, 08:01

Shit, did any of you guys ever get laid as teenagers?
Thinks back through the mists of time...

Do you get laid now?
Thinks back through the mists of time...

Colapop

10th November 2005, 08:11

Shit, did any of you guys ever get laid as teenagers? Do you get laid now?

Does admitting as much in this forum make me a forum whore?

And yes,yes. I learned an important lesson on "seafood" night let's say.

Karma

10th November 2005, 10:33

And yes,yes. I learned an important lesson on "seafood" night let's say.

Oh man... now I'm hungry.

The_Dover

10th November 2005, 10:36

Does admitting as much in this forum make me a forum whore?

And yes,yes. I learned an important lesson on "seafood" night let's say.

What was that then? If the prawns smell dodgy then don't eat them?

Colapop

10th November 2005, 10:45

What was that then? If the prawns smell dodgy then don't eat them?
Had to do with 'Crab' meat - we don't want to go there ( REALLY don't)

RiderInBlack

10th November 2005, 19:11

Had to do with 'Crab' meat - we don't want to go there ( REALLY don't)As long as you didn't have "white bait" to go with it (that would be John's scene:nya:).

Motoracer

10th November 2005, 20:25

My opinion still stands because it is who I am.

P.S. I said the term "Hook" up stands for both sexual intercourse and kissing... Not just kissing.

sels1

11th November 2005, 13:07

And yes,yes. I learned an important lesson on "seafood" night let's say.

Wot? that there's two things that smell like fish.....and one of them is fish?

Marmoot

11th November 2005, 14:20

P.S. I said the term "Hook" up stands for both sexual intercourse and kissing... Not just kissing.

agree on that one. When I said 'hook ur PC up to the power' it doesn't mean only rubbing the plug to the hole.

trumpy

12th November 2005, 09:56

Ah yes, sex.......great, as much as possible for as long as possible.........er...now for my wife's opinion.........

inlinefour

12th November 2005, 16:41

I think anyone has to be fairly f%^ked in the head to think that is cool or normal to shag that many people in one night. Yea there have allways been party girls out there, but this is more than that (26 in a night). Sounds like a fair bit of B/S peir pressure and if I ever met up with any of them and was single, then I'd not go near them with a reinforced nuclear proof condom. A working girl that might do that many in a night I would have more respect for. they are honest in what they are doing and are doing it for a return. Also they tend to focus on safe sex, which I wonder if any of the mentioned ladies in post #1 have any idea. I personally think it is pretty abnormal and only those who have trouble in the "ladies department" would consider it a good thing. Me I'm happy with one lady, nothing wrong with going back to the same well each night, although I doubt if I'd get away with 26 times in a night (or would be up to it). All I can say is that I hope that all those into this sort of thing take safe sex seriously and get themselves chaecked out on a regular basis.:banana: