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Dafe
12th November 2005, 16:20
Today I picked up a book called "The Bikers Bible" by Graham Allardice, A Wellington motorcyclist.
I have often wondered how you would describe the freedom and exhiliration of motorcycling to somebody who has never experienced it.
This is part of Grahams description: Most motorcycles have wonderful power to weight ratios, unmatched by any cars. This makes speed and hillclimbing virtually effortless and gives the feeling of being a superbly fit creature bounding untiringly through the countryside.
Nicely put Graham.
Please feel free anybody to add your pieces.
White trash
12th November 2005, 17:19
I especially like the bit that sez,
"Motorcylces when being pushed, should be done so from the RIGHT hand side with the sidestand folded down"
Yeah. Nice one Graham.
Rhino
12th November 2005, 18:10
I take that after such an informed comment, you have read the book from cover to cover?:nono:
This is actually a damn good read for newbies. I checked it out when my wife borrowed it after passing her learners, I would say "well done" to the author. it contains a lot of very useful advice.:yes:
onearmedbandit
12th November 2005, 18:10
I especially like the bit that sez,
"Motorcylces when being pushed, should be done so from the RIGHT hand side with the sidestand folded down"
Yeah. Nice one Graham.
You're kidding me?
myvice
12th November 2005, 19:38
Motorcycling is a great joy to all those who have always wanted to have several litres of highly flammable liquid next to their reproductive organs as they sit on top and straddle a hunk of metal with several thousand explosions going on inside it while the whole lot screams down a highly abrasive surface with less than one shoe sized bit of rubber for traction when they are wearing a dead animal skin and a over sized Ping-Pong ball for protection!
I can’t understand how I lost my job in advertising?
White trash
12th November 2005, 19:47
You're kidding me?
I shit you not. However, that said, as Rhino pointed out it still is probably one of the best books a Kiwi motorcycling newbie can read, and as Graham himself points out, it is one riders oppinion.
And yes, I have read it cover to cover Rhino, thanks for asking.
froggyfrenchman
12th November 2005, 19:55
Motorcycling is a great joy to all those who have always wanted to have several litres of highly flammable liquid next to their reproductive organs as they sit on top and straddle a hunk of metal with several thousand explosions going on inside it while the whole lot screams down a highly abrasive surface with less than one shoe sized bit of rubber for traction when they are wearing a dead animal skin and a over sized Ping-Pong ball for protection!
I can’t understand how I lost my job in advertising?
Thats the best way ive ever heard it described. Bling for you
Ixion
12th November 2005, 21:05
I especially like the bit that sez,
"Motorcylces when being pushed, should be done so from the RIGHT hand side with the sidestand folded down"
Yeah. Nice one Graham.
I actually knew someone who always did it tht way. He reckoned it was sensible - bike couldn't fall over toward him, cos he ws there, and if it started to fall away from him the stand would catch it. Ordinary way, as he said, if it falls away from you , nothing's going to stop it. Logical , I guess, but buggered if I can do it that way.
Karma
12th November 2005, 21:09
I actually knew someone who always did it tht way. He reckoned it was sensible - bike couldn't fall over toward him, cos he ws there, and if it started to fall away from him the stand would catch it. Ordinary way, as he said, if it falls away from you , nothing's going to stop it. Logical , I guess, but buggered if I can do it that way.
Best way to do it is not push the bike at all... I find that if you make use of that engine thingy and put some of that petrol stuff into it then it'll go somewhere without me pushing it. :lol:
Waylander
12th November 2005, 21:21
I actually knew someone who always did it tht way. He reckoned it was sensible - bike couldn't fall over toward him, cos he ws there, and if it started to fall away from him the stand would catch it. Ordinary way, as he said, if it falls away from you , nothing's going to stop it. Logical , I guess, but buggered if I can do it that way.
Except that side stands fold back so if the bike goes down on it with too much forward momentum it will fold itself up allowing the bike to fall over.
Ixion
12th November 2005, 21:23
Best way to do it is not push the bike at all... I find that if you make use of that engine thingy and put some of that petrol stuff into it then it'll go somewhere without me pushing it. :lol:
Ah , you obviously never had to deal with the pride of Briddish engineering excellence. Which also included stands that didn't fold back
SARGE
12th November 2005, 21:39
I actually knew someone who always did it tht way. He reckoned it was sensible - bike couldn't fall over toward him, cos he ws there, and if it started to fall away from him the stand would catch it. Ordinary way, as he said, if it falls away from you , nothing's going to stop it. Logical , I guess, but buggered if I can do it that way.
thats how ive always done it .. and thts the reason why.. i have lost one years ago the other way and *BANG* right side schmushed.. backing down a hill i have the sidestand down also ( i am the master of "levering" a bike around on its sidestand also. .was pulling out of BBT toys tonight and spun mine around 180 degrees with no effort ... parked behind the M/C Show pavillion under the canopy by the rear entrence.. this guy was walking by and he asked me to show him how to do it .. said it was WAY Cool.
anyway..biking to me is:
a family tradition.. a freedom few ever have the balls to experience.. the mechanical music of the engine .. the rush of the wind.. the feeling of becoming part man, part machine as you fire into the long sweeper with the throttle hand burning like lava and the bike moving with you like a soulmate
Back Fire
12th November 2005, 21:57
thats how ive always done it .. and thts the reason why.. i have lost one years ago the other way and *BANG* right side schmushed.. backing down a hill i have the sidestand down also ( i am the master of "levering" a bike around on its sidestand also. .was pulling out of BBT toys tonight and spun mine around 180 degrees with no effort ... parked behind the M/C Show pavillion under the canopy by the rear entrence.. this guy was walking by with 2 NAVMAN babes and he asked me to show him how to do it .. said it was WAY Cool..i almost dropped it one time cuz i was busy looking at the Brunetts SKIN TIGHT OUTFIT:drool:.. she knew it too..she looked me dead in the Oakley's and smiled :giggle: )
anyway..biking to me is:
a family tradition.. a freedom few ever have the balls to experience.. the mechanical music of the engine .. the rush of the wind.. the feeling of becoming part man, part machine as you fire into the long sweeper with the throttle hand burning like lava and the bike moving with you like a soulmate
*sigh*... NAVMAN...
must..... resist..... urge............... smart arse..... comment
SARGE
12th November 2005, 22:30
must..... resist..... urge............... smart arse..... comment
i.... know... where... you... live...
avgas
12th November 2005, 22:44
Imagine a bull putting all its effort into on direction, and you are in the rodeo. You can either be the clown or the bull rider.
Bonez
12th November 2005, 22:48
I especially like the bit that sez,
"Motorcylces when being pushed, should be done so from the RIGHT hand side with the sidestand folded down"
What's the proper way to push a bike without a side stand I wonder?:spudbn:
myvice
13th November 2005, 10:50
No good if you own a Ducati, bloody side-stands fold up at the slightest provocation!
ducatilover
13th November 2005, 19:53
what about my experience? motorcycles do wonderful gymnastics when gracefull put on it side to demon strate somersaults at 160 kmh, how monkey like and pure they are:bash: fuck i am sore....:blink:
F5 Dave
14th November 2005, 11:08
My GasGas sidestand comes up with such rapidity you’ve got to watch those shins, or anything else at that level. Heard of one chap getting some dental work while working on the bike. I bungy the stand down position while in the garage.
But yeah, great idea - push from the RHS with the side-stand down, that way when you reach where you are going you can just plonk it down. Of course in this time it has brushed against something & is now past the point of no return & you get that horrible sinking feeling that the bike isn’t going to stop,-- and,-- you -- can’t [strain] --hold , ---- arrgghhh! :thud:
Did something similar pushing my Katana off the centrestand on uneven ground after washing it, day one of ownership.
& by the above method in the garage for the YZF day one having repainted it. By fluke handlebar got a can under it that avoided damage. Wow.
HenryDorsetCase
14th November 2005, 16:32
If you are into the philosophy of it there's a book called "The Perfect Vehicle" Its about this woman and her love of Moto Guzzi and why she rides.. I thought it was good when I read it.
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/0393318095/qid=1131942600/sr=8-1/ref=pd_bbs_1/002-3858116-0326452?v=glance&s=books&n=507846
Big Dave
14th November 2005, 21:49
I don't worry about the side stand trick - i just pick the bastards up and turn them around.
anyway,
Writing about motorcycles is akin to dancing about architecture.
Big Dave
14th November 2005, 21:50
What's the proper way to push a bike without a side stand I wonder?:spudbn:
Over......
Waylander
14th November 2005, 21:51
Not everyone is as big and burley as you Dave. That said I have no trouble picking my bike up so long as the tires arn't any higher than the rest of the bike.
Isn't that rule one for buying a bike? Don't get one you cannot pick up on your own.
ducatilover
14th November 2005, 21:57
I don't worry about the side stand trick - i just pick the bastards up and turn them around.
anyway,
Writing about motorcycles is akin to dancing about architecture.
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???/:blink: whoa......i can do that with my mums scooter:yes:
Big Dave
15th November 2005, 09:30
?????????????????????????????????????????????????? ???/:blink: whoa......i can do that with my mums scooter:yes:
Ha! I can lift a new bonneville completely off the ground - both wheels.
My mate 'trip' broke down on his manx norton and went crook at his Mrs when she turned up without the ramp on the trailer - so I told him to f*** up and picked it up and placed it gently on the trailer.
He said - 'I knew there was a reason i hang out with a gorilla'
and I do use the side stand trick regularly - if you move bikes round a showroom it's a vital job skill.
James Deuce
15th November 2005, 09:39
Writing about motorcycles is akin to dancing about architecture.
Yes i is, but isn't it fun wrestling with the dissonant juxtaposition of experience over disciplined thought to produce a connection betwixt writer and reader?
Big Dave
15th November 2005, 09:44
Yes i is, but isn't it fun wrestling with the dissonant juxtaposition of experience over disciplined thought to produce a connection betwixt writer and reader?
or simply don the tutu and perform a dormer.
mattt
15th November 2005, 09:57
I just watched the dvd that come attached to October's Aussie TwoWheels magazine.
During qualifying, the interviewer guy asked Vermeulen what was running through his head just before he went out.
He replied "I'm just thinking about how bigger wheelie I can do down the finish straight"
That sums up biking and bikers for me - Fucking Cool.
Lou Girardin
15th November 2005, 10:11
gives the feeling of being a superbly fit creature bounding untiringly through the countryside.[/I][/B]
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Needs a new shock?
ducatilover
15th November 2005, 10:56
Ha! I can lift a new bonneville completely off the ground - both wheels.
My mate 'trip' broke down on his manx norton and went crook at his Mrs when she turned up without the ramp on the trailer - so I told him to f*** up and picked it up and placed it gently on the trailer.
He said - 'I knew there was a reason i hang out with a gorilla'
and I do use the side stand trick regularly - if you move bikes round a showroom it's a vital job skill.
man thats not bad. i got out of bed, is that good?:yawn: i am a scrawny bugger though so i could almost lift my gn.......pathetic:2thumbsup
HenryDorsetCase
15th November 2005, 11:31
Not everyone is as big and burley as you Dave. That said I have no trouble picking my bike up so long as the tires arn't any higher than the rest of the bike.
Isn't that rule one for buying a bike? Don't get one you cannot pick up on your own.
right, that is me crossing the Gold Wing off the list.
I am a scrawny little person, but I have been able to pick up all my bikes if they have fallen over.... tipping them onto their side, and a good old college try and away they go..... too much welly and they go over the other side...two for the price of one!
inlinefour
15th November 2005, 17:05
Riding a motorcycle is a little like sex, however the orgasm lasts much, much longer on the motorcycle (decided not to put bike there):rockon:
Oh and regarding what waylander said about being able to pickup your bike. Its sound advice however not a legal requirement as it is I'm told in Japan.
Will
15th November 2005, 21:28
Riding a motorcycle is a little like sex, however the orgasm lasts much, much longer on the motorcycle (decided not to put bike there):rockon:
And your motorcycle doesn't suffer from headaches:lol:
heavenly.talker
15th November 2005, 21:58
Motorcycling...
The most fun you can have with your clothes on :-0
And some times more risk, challenge, performance, and fun that you can have with your clothes off! lol
ducatilover
15th November 2005, 22:00
Motorcycling...
The most fun you can have with your clothes on :-0
And some times more risk, challenge, performance, and fun that you can have with your clothes off! lol
classic kb quote alert record that someone:2thumbsup
noyz
16th November 2005, 08:20
I love Jay Leno’s quote when he was talking about riding his jet bike
“Its like the hand of God pushing you in the back”
(http://www.popularmechanics.com/automotive/sub_coll_leno/1302876.html)
Divot
16th November 2005, 08:26
Motorcycling...
The most fun you can have with your clothes on :-0
lol
The most fun I have had with my clothes on is twenty laps around a oval driving a sprintcar:yes:
Divot
16th November 2005, 08:30
Only just better than riding my motorbike thou!!!!
dawnrazor
16th November 2005, 13:11
Motorcycling...
The most fun you can have with your clothes on :-0
And some times more risk, challenge, performance, and fun that you can have with your clothes off! lol
and knee sliders aren't a good look for the bed room!!
heavenly.talker
16th November 2005, 15:45
Really depends on who's wearing them and whether she has ever had carpet burn before! lol
dawnrazor
16th November 2005, 16:13
Really depends on who's wearing them and whether she has ever had carpet burn before! lol
Okay "getting the knee down", is now officially code for doing the nasty, so be warned and careful how you use it in your day to day intercourse, so to speak lol
ManDownUnder
16th November 2005, 17:06
Motorcycling is solitude.
It's being alone on a fun machine enjoying the scenery of your choice at a pace you enjoy. Alone or with friends, you have to answer to no-one, no bastard can ring and interrupt, and the best answer you can give is "I'll be about an hour"
In the rain it's the feeling of defeating the elements, frustrating them an inch from your face, just as they thought they'd made it.
In traffic it's the priviledge of having your own lane, and knowing you are responsible for your actions - do something dumb and you'll be hurt and damage the name of yourself and your peers.
In the company of like minded motorcyclists, is the fun of being with people that can relate to what you enjoy. Our community is made of risk takers, some more extreme than others, but risk takers all. Drinking and talking shite with motorcyclists is generally better than drinking and talking shite with most...
When in a group of experienced riders there is the unspoken trust you have with an old friend, knowing you will be considerate and look after them, and they will return those actions in kind. There is a genuine welcome and a kind of recognition given to those new to riding, and and honour in helping them learn.
There is pleasure in assisting those that have fallen, and sadness in those that pass away, but even then, especially then, there is community and the memory of good times offer solace in bad times.
It's not just riding, it's the experience, the machine, the thrill, the people and the community.
That's what it is for me
MDU
PS no - I have no idea where that lot came from... maybe it's the 4 beers...
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