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Dafe
19th November 2005, 16:32
The last week I've been thinking and discussing Fireblades and K6's.
I've even posted comparison threads here as you may have seen.
After some emailing to Brian Bernard, the question for me quickly chopped from CBR vs GSXR 1000 to GSXR 600 vs GSXR 1000.
Brian convincing me that at 95Kg, I should go for the 1000.

I've spent the last three days discussing the new K6 with Wellington Motorcycles, and today I testrode the K5 to get a taste.

Bare in mind, I'm an ex-K3 SV1000S (V-Twin)owner!!! So each to their own, this is my experience, by no means anybody elses.

Pulling out of WMCC I noticed the revs not as forgiving, I had to hold it up there with a slight twist. The initial pulling away crisp and smooth. No grunting sound as I have been so used to. :(
Pulling up at the lights in the city, Initially thinking, this feels like a sportsbike, feels like it'll go well!!!
I just cruised my way through the city and then up onto the motorway. I gave it a goodtwist heading up the onramp by the ferry terminal - very quick acceleration! I heard the engine rev picking up and changed gears as you do, accelerated into third, fourth, fifth, sixth.
In sixth gear at 120 on the motorway, I was looking for seventh - Not there!
A twin rider like myself not used to the gearing feel, and looking down at the rev counter, I was only at around 4000. It just sounded like it was revving high. Obviously Not! Up the gorge I went and I thought, a wee bit more stick.......Just for the thrill.
Slowed down for the Johnsonville offramp thinking this nice 50-60kph is a good entry speed into the offramp - Holy crap, I'm still over 100!
I looked around and it did not look like 100, My mind boggled, I could swear I was 50-60 max! (Mental note taken!)
Cruised through Johnsonville, the odd wave to the fellow motorcyclists and back out towards Tawa on the motorway.
It was at this stage that I realised, I haven't even given this bike anything yet! Maybe 6000 rpm at the most.
I rode down the Tawa offramp and turned right back towards the onramp,
As I reached the top of the onramp at a slow 40kph, I looked back up the motorway, road clear! Dropped it into first and rolled on the throttle..........
Great acceleration! and then Holy Mollies....... This thing just started squeezing out more acceleration, in a short couple of seconds, the front wheel was weightless and I'd become briefly confused as my vision and brain had lost coordination. I instantly buttoned off the throttle! What a Farkin rush!!! how the hell can this machine be Legal? My heart is pounding and my hands are shaking, and not just slightly either! I knew this bike had acceleration, but this was nothing I could have imagined! It was far too quick with acceleration so fast, it left no room for error.
Now I was becoming thirsty for more and feeling a desire to taste more!
The ride between Tawa and Wellington started to become a little too quick, I was beginning to really enjoy it.
Cars are not in the picture anymore - No matter what type they are - from here on in, everything gets blown away and left in the dust! (My apologies to those cars that endured my brief moments of madness/test riding).
A late model SS Holden even tried having a go, but he fell behind about 400metres in about 20 seconds.
Back on the motorway, I scanned for the bling bling confiscators. Seeing none, I thought - Yeehah! Oh the feeling of K5 acceleration!!! I dropped into fourth and nailed it again. After pinning it for about 3-4 seconds I looked down and saw a 2 digit on the speedo. OMG - Already???? Quickly dropping back to the heavy wallet fining region. An SV taking about three times as long to achieve those speeds.
Back into town and up Featherston street - Having the feel of 1st gear takeoffs now, I enjoyed a series of accelerations out of the lights.
It's very hard though not to give a short burst that pushes you well past 70kph. Good fun!!!
Coming back to WMCC, my heart was still pounding and my hands still shaking pretty bad. I can't displace from my mind, that my spotless licence is so vulnerably temporary when I'm on this bike.
I felt like I couldn't help myself and I have a true recipe for disaster.
Also, I have never ever had to keep looking and checking behind me so frequently for revenue collectors, even in the City!

Upon dismounting the bike, I just stared at my hands shaking and waited a few minutes for my heart to slow back to a more normal rhytym. I was initially - Speechless. I totally love this bike but I'll kill myself on it! I'll also miss the relaxed cruising feel of the SV and the SV felt somewhat more spacious. I had a relax and allowed myself 3 hours to calm down and think rationally before making any decisions!
I struck a deal with hamish at WMCC and now, I'm waiting for a nice new K6 to land in the next week.
The decision was incredibly hard though! "The SV or the GSXR?" The slow and stable ride vs the unknown!
In the end, I have decided - I will respect this bike for the lethality that it has and I am taking on a huge challenge in learning to ride this bike to survive it. I love a challenge and this one I will look forward to.
I've had no drops, no tickets etc in the past, and I've decided, I'll ride this machine easily and slowly gain my feel for it. Thank the lord for run in periods too. I can't stress enough how important self discipline will be over the next year!

I have no regrets that I didn't even testride the CBR Thousand, for this Suzuki bike is just insanely sick! How could you ever want more? For anybody who ever testrides one, trust me - At minimum, you'll be shaking just as I did!

And the best news of the day, My best mate (ex 04 GSX250 owner) that I rode in with, was looking at a second hand private sale ZXR750 with 50,000K on the clock today.
He took my advice and brought the GSXR600 Anniversary Edition straight off the shop floor! He lives 10 doors from my house too! Therefore, Lots of after work rides for us.

So next time you Wellington folk see a GSXR K6 and 600 Annivesary cruising the highways or the towns! Thats us! And we're farking loving life for all it's worth!

Zed
19th November 2005, 16:56
Way to go Dafe, congratulations! Looking forward to seeing pics on its arrival.

Take your time to get to know the new bike, as you do, and give it *heaps* of respect which should result in a long-time love affair! :love:

skelstar
19th November 2005, 17:04
Awesome dude. Looking forward to seeing it. When does it arrive?

mikey
19th November 2005, 17:29
ill stil be quicker on my 250.

oh i mean, wow how cool, new bike, an you sure you waited 3 hours.... or 3 minutes, you honda slaggin cunt.

TEAM HONDA!

SPORK
19th November 2005, 17:36
Sweetness! Colour? (Sorry if it was mentioned, my brain's not working)

The_Dover
19th November 2005, 17:46
give it *heaps* of respect

Fuckin A.

Enjoy the bike Dafe, they are an absolutely ridiculous toy but worth every pinger!

Dafe
19th November 2005, 17:47
Sweetness! Colour? (Sorry if it was mentioned, my brain's not working)

The standard Blue/white scheme. After much looking at the colours, I've decided the Grey, Black and Red schemes don't look like Suzuki GSXR's in their brief moment of passing. Not unless you know your bikes well. Also, Personally - I way prefer the blue by a golden mile. I think the new shape is very refreshing and breaks the bike up well.
The only difference between the K5 and K6 is some additional colouring in the fairings which make it look a fair bit sweeter than the K5.

Dafe
19th November 2005, 17:47
Awesome dude. Looking forward to seeing it. When does it arrive?

Thanks Skels, I should have it in the next 7 days. Hopefully in time for East by West. Of course I'll be spectating only! Go Tony Sampson!!!

Dafe
19th November 2005, 17:51
ill stil be quicker on my 250.

oh i mean, wow how cool, new bike, an you sure you waited 3 hours.... or 3 minutes, you honda slaggin cunt.

TEAM HONDA!

You won't be quicker if you're doing the same speed as the last time we met! Pushing your bike toward the Kennedy Good bridge!!
Thanks anyway mate, Nothing wrong with Honda's. I still rate my old NC30 as the best 400 I ever rode. I'm sure the CBR's are just wicked! Just ask Deano. Each to their own and I'm just on a Suzuki phase right now! :2thumbsup

Leong
19th November 2005, 17:57
Sounds like you had one of those real memorable days!! Congrats on the new bike!!:2thumbsup

Sensei
19th November 2005, 18:28
Well I told ya there is nothing better the a GSXR . Excellent new's Dafe . Hope to hook up with you & the other Welly Slow Pock's :whistle: next time I'm down that way . I may even get to try one of those K thing's one day no Shop up here let's me ride any Demo bikes :mad: .

SPman
19th November 2005, 18:46
That acceleration rush is rather addictive............:blink:

And so much easier to ride than a K4..........

Zapf
19th November 2005, 19:05
how many coffee's did you have in the 3 hours? :blink:

ducatilover
19th November 2005, 20:03
dude you are one lucky mo'fo.....i sat on a k5 thou and it was as small as my bros650! and my bros 650 feels smaller than the vtr250 i was looking at:blink: if i could afford one it'd have to be blue and whits, they look soooooooooooooo nice dribble dribble, oh sorry i dribbled on it:banana: gotta love the cool zorst [it grew on me.....help i want a four cylinder]

Darkman
19th November 2005, 20:28
Wow, excllent man. You must be pretty exited. You make me want to go and buy my gsxr1300, but have to wait till 2007 when the Busa with the big changes comes out..yeah, cant wait to see it. read a great article on the K6 the other day, sounds awesome!!!!I guess all the chances i hoped to have to ever keep up with you has now gone through the drain..ha ha..enjoy!:rockon:

Zed
19th November 2005, 20:34
I guess all the chances i hoped to have to ever keep up with you has now gone through the drain..ha ha..enjoy!:rockon:Have you sold your Blackbird then??

Dafe
19th November 2005, 20:42
Wow, excllent man. You must be pretty exited. You make me want to go and buy my gsxr1300, but have to wait till 2007 when the Busa with the big changes comes out..yeah, cant wait to see it. read a great article on the K6 the other day, sounds awesome!!!!I guess all the chances i hoped to have to ever keep up with you has now gone through the drain..ha ha..enjoy!:rockon:

No I won't be pushing it hard. I've got alot to thank Brian Bernard for. My cornering speed has improved insanely! But, I'm loosing interest very quick with speed and public roads. I'm heading to Manfield on the 01 Dec and 16 Dec if you're keen to come for a run. I won't be thrashing it there either.
I'll probably still be the tail end charlie keeping my eye on the 250's.

Zapf
19th November 2005, 20:51
No I won't be pushing it hard. I've got alot to thank Brian Bernard for. My cornering speed has improved insanely! But, I'm loosing interest very quick with speed and public roads. I'm heading to Manfield on the 01 Dec and 16 Dec if you're keen to come for a run. I won't be thrashing it there either.
I'll probably still be the tail end charlie keeping my eye on the 250's.

think you might get bored with the gixxer on the open road and not being able to speed?

Dafe
19th November 2005, 21:02
think you might get bored with the gixxer on the open road and not being able to speed?

Same deal on anybike though. I choose my moments and to be honest, I get my thrills with accelerating rather than with top end speed.
The GSXR is wicked fun in a town too, as I found out today.

The track is the only place to truely enjoy it's speed. I'm not to keen at all on opening it up on public roads, the track would be great for a few quickish rounds.

Zapf
19th November 2005, 21:53
Same deal on anybike though. I choose my moments and to be honest, I get my thrills with accelerating rather than with top end speed.
The GSXR is wicked fun in a town too, as I found out today.

The track is the only place to truely enjoy it's speed. I'm not to keen at all on opening it up on public roads, the track would be great for a few quickish rounds.

(Yoda voice) Ermm... Accelerate quickly it will :yes:

skelstar
19th November 2005, 22:10
I'll probably still be the tail end charlie keeping my eye on the 250's.
Goddam 250's and their limit speed...oh, how embarrassing, thats me isnt it ;).

Dafe
20th November 2005, 05:53
Goddam 250's and their limit speed...oh, how embarrassing, thats me isnt it ;).

That's partly you, keeping me honest! Which I'm grateful for.
I've been doing alot of rides with my mate Peter too, on his GSX250. But he's now got the Anniversary 600.
But I'm not always that keen on the high speed stuff or I'd be fighting my way towards the front, on our rides.

Dafe
20th November 2005, 06:05
dude you are one lucky mo'fo.....i sat on a k5 thou and it was as small as my bros650! and my bros 650 feels smaller than the vtr250 i was looking at:blink: if i could afford one it'd have to be blue and whits, they look soooooooooooooo nice dribble dribble, oh sorry i dribbled on it:banana: gotta love the cool zorst [it grew on me.....help i want a four cylinder]

Thanks Ducatilover - I know, It's such an amazingly easy bike to handle, & it's so light thanks to all the titanium.
The weight of the 1000 is only 5kg heavier than the 600.
I'm also told the first gear will reach 170kph.

Uncle B
20th November 2005, 07:11
Dude if only people knew what's been going on......
Can't wait to see the new bike, you must be like a kid in a lolly shop.
Can I have a sit when you get it?

James Deuce
20th November 2005, 07:15
Good on you Dafe. Sadly, it looks like the era of the big twin is coming to a (temporary) close (again).

skelstar
20th November 2005, 07:18
Good on you Dafe. Sadly, it looks like the era of the big twin is coming to a (temporary) close (again).
Thats funny on more than one level Jim :).

jimdaworm
20th November 2005, 08:06
I thought you were sensible... obviously barking mad!:doobey: I am sure I will be insanely jelous when I see it, I bet is cool looking!

I am still only starting to get used to the acceration of my cbr 600 maby one day when I know how to ride I will get a gsxr.

Congrats!:2thumbsup

Zed
20th November 2005, 08:35
I am still only starting to get used to the acceration of my cbr 600 maby one day when I know how to ride I will get a gsxr.Interesting comment, a possible pt about the gixxer? Checked out the '98 GSXR600 against your current CBR600 (http://www.motorbikes.be/en/compare/995/1317/) and they aren't really worlds apart in power delivery, gixxer wins though, and being 10kgs lighter than the cbr with better brakes the gixxer would outride it...but that depends on the rider dunnit! :ride:

Deano
20th November 2005, 08:38
it's so light thanks to all the titanium.


And the recycled coke cans they use for the radiators - get a radiator guard fitted immediately !!

jimdaworm
20th November 2005, 08:42
Hey Zed the reason I got a CBR was because apparently they are more forgiving than a gsxr if you make a mistake paticularily when cornering... I have only had my license for 4 months now... so I need all the help I can get but still wanted a cool looking fun to ride bike:banana:

Zed
20th November 2005, 09:03
Hey Zed the reason I got a CBR was because apparently they are more forgiving than a gsxr if you make a mistake paticularily when cornering... I have only had my license for 4 months now... so I need all the help I can get but still wanted a cool looking fun to ride bike:banana:They are both cool bikes, and the riding position of both is quite different, but being more forgiving i'm not sure about, i reckon it's down to rider ability more than anything so if you bought a gixxer instead of the cbr then you'd learn to adjust accordingly and *master* it over time! :Punk:

jimdaworm
20th November 2005, 09:17
True the cbrs (At least not the RRs) are Sports/Tourers tooo where as the GSXR s are Sports bikes is that correct??:spudbn:

Zed
20th November 2005, 09:37
True the cbrs (At least not the RRs) are Sports/Tourers tooo where as the GSXR s are Sports bikes is that correct??:spudbn:I'm not sure if they were marketed as sprots tourers? I consider them a *sports* bike. That particular model CBR has a centre stand, long single seat, and a fairly upright seating position, which are all qualities of a tourer! That's partly why I've owned 2 of em and a CBR900 and now a CBR1100. I like CBR's in other words. :spudguita

jimdaworm
20th November 2005, 09:58
Hence you have the most insane CBR you could find :D A blackbird!:doobey: I am very much enjoying it and it seems to be fine with my GF on the back too!

Oh and sorry for HiJacking this thread:blip:

SPman
20th November 2005, 11:47
I'm not sure if they were marketed as sprots tourers? I consider them a *sports* bike. That particular model CBR has a centre stand, long single seat, and a fairly upright seating position, which are all qualities of a tourer! s.
Until the CBR RR's, the CBR600's were considered among the most road user friendly, of the 600 sport bikes. However, as the envelope became narrower and more race oriented and most of the 600's became more track oriented, even 4-5 yr old bikes now seem more like sport tourers...
Interestingly, in the States, they sell at 2 levels - so (up to this year, anyway) you could get new models of the older 600's....CBR600F4i, ZZR600, and YZF600, sold more as "beginner bikes" This years ZZR600, for example is a 2001 model, ZX6R, and the current YZF600 is a 2001 R6!

Dafe
20th November 2005, 13:04
A very sensible idea! Thanks Deano.

loosebruce
20th November 2005, 15:26
And the recycled coke cans they use for the radiators - get a radiator guard fitted immediately !!

Yea do this for sure, i always said i should do it, then i got a hole in it, think it was WT that did it too me, wanker, so i got his new Arai with one to repay the favour.

Go up a few teeth at the rear or down one on the front that'll liven the K6 up a bit, just what it needs, the gearing is stupid on the new GSXR's, i mean 250kph in 3rd WTF. What we want is stupid power badns and 4th gear power wheelies mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Watch the brakes too, dont ask me why but the one i test rode the brakes were shit compared to the K3, maybe some plonk glazed the pads, who knows.

SPman
20th November 2005, 17:25
..Watch the brakes too, dont ask me why but the one i test rode the brakes were shit compared to the K3, maybe some plonk glazed the pads, who knows.
The Colemans demo - brakes seemed the same as the K4...Heard the K3 does have slightly better brakes...

Sensei
20th November 2005, 19:13
The Colemans demo - brakes seemed the same as the K4...Heard the K3 does have slightly better brakes...

Yep they do - 4 pad's per brake Excellent feed back & feel

SPman
20th November 2005, 22:04
Thats right - the K4's and K5s only have 2 pads per brake..!

SlowHand
21st November 2005, 19:25
Fuckin A.

Enjoy the bike Dafe, they are an absolutely ridiculous toy but worth every pinger!

fuck that must be worth it - what does it work out to be Dover? 200bux a day? more?

The_Dover
21st November 2005, 19:33
Hmm, never calculated it to be honest, hang on!

Yeah, pretty much bang on, about $20 a day. But like I said, worth every penny and still less than an hours work a day!

Shweeet.

However the next one may come at a greater cost. Fuck.

inlinefour
21st November 2005, 19:37
I had the same feeling on Sensei's K3 and it was much more comfotable to ride. However I reckon I'd easily be able to kill myself so hence what I ride. I'll look out for you next time I'm down that way (soon I hope).:2thumbsup

Dafe
21st November 2005, 21:07
I had the same feeling on Sensei's K3 and it was much more comfotable to ride. However I reckon I'd easily be able to kill myself so hence what I ride. I'll look out for you next time I'm down that way (soon I hope).:2thumbsup

Thanks Inlinefour. Would be good to meet you Naki guys sometime.
I'll make sure I PM you guys if I'm up that way.

cowpoos
21st November 2005, 21:23
No I won't be pushing it hard. I've got alot to thank Brian Bernard for. My cornering speed has improved insanely! But, I'm loosing interest very quick with speed and public roads. I'm heading to Manfield on the 01 Dec and 16 Dec if you're keen to come for a run. I won't be thrashing it there either.
I'll probably still be the tail end charlie keeping my eye on the 250's.

whats on at manfield on the 1st and the 16th man???? I could be interested in coming along for a lil track fun with you...[although it probally won't be fun after you lap me..........twice]....????

cowpoos
21st November 2005, 21:25
Good on you Dafe. Sadly, it looks like the era of the big twin is coming to a (temporary) close (again).

yeah I'm hearing you jim....I'm looking at either a 06 zx10r or k6 gsxr 750/1000
love the twin....but the chassis is slower than the engine...lol

inlinefour
22nd November 2005, 11:20
Thanks Inlinefour. Would be good to meet you Naki guys sometime.
I'll make sure I PM you guys if I'm up that way.

I'll make sure Ive got the bike ready:banana:

750Y
24th November 2005, 06:57
good write up Dafe, i really enjoyed reading that & imagining what it musta been like.
enjoy the new machine 8-)..