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flash
19th November 2005, 19:06
now ive been looking at these for a while now. theres not much on this site about them and google comes back with next to nothing.

just wondering if these are worth the money?, ive seen the video clip where they get dragged behind a dragster, but thats only on their butts, when you fall off a bike you dont just slide on your ass, you bounce.

has anyone crashed in these? i no they have not armor but ild wear my motox knee padds under most the time.

Zed
19th November 2005, 19:24
now ive been looking at these for a while now. theres not much on this site about them and google comes back with next to nothing.

just wondering if these are worth the money?, ive seen the video clip where they get dragged behind a dragster, but thats only on their butts, when you fall off a bike you dont just slide on your ass, you bounce.

has anyone crashed in these? i no they have not armor but ild wear my motox knee padds under most the time.Kevlar lined, will save your skin if you slide but without armour you're stuffed if you, like you say, "bounce", or take a tumble down the road. How often do you just 'slide' in a bin though, not very often I would think!?

NhuanH wore a pair to a KB event last Thursday, he looked casual in them and I spose felt quite comfortable, just like normal jeans...but not good protection IMO.

thealmightytaco
19th November 2005, 19:32
I havent got armour in any of my leathers, so they'd be awesome for me huh. Or I should buy more expensive leathers next time. Or this time.

ducatilover
19th November 2005, 19:34
i would personaly NOT ride in them because of the way i ride, they may be more protective then normal jeans but why not get some leather pants that show of you size [in my case lack of] in the battle axe area? there are some fairly decent ones ive seen for 200 bucks, draggin jeans are 240+ arent they? get something impact resistant said my nearly split knee cap.....i prfer my leather jacket to my codura now after having my "slip" and finding armoured leather products very good.....sorry i'm ranting i just need a bloody hug....:blip:

WINJA
19th November 2005, 19:35
IVE PERSONALLY TESTED DRAGIN JEANS MANY TIMES INCLUDING A 200 KMH SPILL AND IT GOT TO FLESH NOWHERE , I SWEAR BY THEM , I THINK THEIR BETTER THAN LOWER QUALITY LEATHER PANTS BUT NOTHING BEATS TOP QUALITY LEATHER.
GET THEM IF ANYTHING THEIR CHEAPER THAN SKINGRAFTS

ducatilover
19th November 2005, 19:35
I havent got armour in any of my leathers, so they'd be awesome for me huh. Or I should buy more expensive leathers next time. Or this time.
my leather jacket only cost 250 and its fully armoured [it was marked down from 380]:yes:

James Deuce
19th November 2005, 19:37
Seen several "crashed" Draggin jeans and I've always been impressed how they hung together, better than cheap Buffalo hide leathers, that's for certain.

As for tumbling in a crash, I've only ever done that once in about 10 crashes ranging from 50km/hr to 220km/hr, and that was only because I stood up while still sliding at about 50km/hr because it felt slow enough to do so. Amazing how far you fly when you do that. I think you need to visualise how to manage a crash. It's really important to control the resulting slide. But then I've never highsided, which is the only way I can see the catastrophic tumbling coming about, previously mentioned.

I wear them without hesitation. They are perfect for commuting, and on casual Friday, I don't even have to get changed. They aren't as hot as leather trousers, and if I'm just cruising about on the CB, well within legal parameters then no worries. Track or Sport riding and it's the armoured Leather trousers.

It's very easy to get neurotic about protective gear. A protective mindset is definitely a good thing, but aggressively defensive riding is even better. There's lots of guys on this site who've motorcycled continuously from times before compulsory helmets and readily available specialist motorcycle protective gear, through to today's mega-flash, ultra-expensive, designer label must-have-because-I-won't be-cool-without-it Kangaroo hide one piece racing suit with built-in aircon. I dare say a pair of Draggin' Jeans would be better protection than any gear worn by a 1950s GP motorcyclist, or a MX or Trials rider from the '70s or'80s.

flash
19th November 2005, 19:40
soon hopefully i will get some second hand one piece leathers for the track and long rides but i want some protection where i can go to the shops without those stupid people looking at me wierdly.

my idea was get the jeans, buy one of quazi's leather jackets and then later on get the other stuff (already have gloves and a helmet).
also i was thinking about using the leather jacket as just a jacket, you know, like a jersey or something or are motorbike leather jackets a bit too restricted for casual use?

Dafe
19th November 2005, 19:42
They are fantastic as far as comfort goes!
My wife wears hers to work for casual friday wear.
I've found mine more comfortable than my everyday standard Jeans, they are on the warmer side though.
If you ride hard, you need leathers. If you simply commute, these would be fine.
I've heard that you'll be very sore if you come off, coz theres no impact protection.
I rate my draggins, and I'll wear them on the K6 when I'm out for a casual ride. They have their place!

WINJA
19th November 2005, 19:45
THIS WAS FROM A ZX9 LOW SIDING ON MY LEG AT ABOUT 160

ducatilover
19th November 2005, 19:47
soon hopefully i will get some second hand one piece leathers for the track and long rides but i want some protection where i can go to the shops without those stupid people looking at me wierdly.

my idea was get the jeans, buy one of quazi's leather jackets and then later on get the other stuff (already have gloves and a helmet).
also i was thinking about using the leather jacket as just a jacket, you know, like a jersey or something or are motorbike leather jackets a bit too restricted for casual use?
my leather jackets a bastard to walk or do cartwheels or masturbate in but it sure helps me bounce when i fall off:doh:

Zed
19th November 2005, 19:48
soon hopefully i will get some second hand one piece leathers for the track and long rides but i want some protection where i can go to the shops without those stupid people looking at me wierdly.

my idea was get the jeans, buy one of quazi's leather jackets and then later on get the other stuff (already have gloves and a helmet).
also i was thinking about using the leather jacket as just a jacket, you know, like a jersey or something or are motorbike leather jackets a bit too restricted for casual use?I guess there's a time and place to wear them then, "down to the shops" being a good example. The story in your 1st post of the rider being dragged behind that vehicle gave me the impression you were buying them for normal road rides, commuting, etc.

I still seen numerable riders around town wearing shorts, no gloves, etc...maybe they are of that generation Jim was speaking about? :msn-wink: Wear *some* kind of protection whenever you ride, that's what I try and practise...I didn't always!

trumpy
19th November 2005, 19:54
I have a set of these and am very happy with them for "round town" riding (for any real distance I feel a bit "naked" in them and prefer my Cordura pants with hip and knee armour). The kevlar covers the thighs and knees as well as the butt. They are great for hot days but they are a bit heavier (and therefore hotter) than standard jeans.

Apparently you can get velcro on pads for the knees and hips. I do not have these so cannot attest to their comfort or otherwise.

The jeans themselves are a good fit, well made and comfortable to wear on the bike. They are cut extra long so if you have short legs like me you will need to get them shortened.

At $240 odd dollars they are not cheap but a whole lot cheaper and less painful than the plastic surgery that you will probably need if you have an off in standard jeans. I know there will be someone out there who will tell you he had a 150kmh off in his jeans and he survived just fine - ignore him. He is either a liar (the actual impact speed after braking was probably considerably less) or he landed on the grass. After more than 20 years in the rehabilitaion business I can assure you regular jeans will last about a metre on tarmac before you start to lose skin. And no it doesn't have to be a fast off - 40kmh+ will do just fine. Don't wear them on your bike!:nono:

Spend the money and get some Draggin Jeans!

Just the ramblings of Old Fart, for what it's worth......

skelstar
19th November 2005, 19:56
Thats a coincidence. I too ws looking at them today and was going to ask similar questions. I think I would take your suggestion and get some MX kneepad thingies. Not sure I like the system they have for sticking pads in the knees.

WINJA
19th November 2005, 20:31
Thats a coincidence. I too ws looking at them today and was going to ask similar questions. I think I would take your suggestion and get some MX kneepad thingies. Not sure I like the system they have for sticking pads in the knees.
ROLLER BLADING KNEE PADS WORK REAL GOOD , TESTED THEM THOROUGHLY

Big Dave
19th November 2005, 20:36
I wear draggin jeans in the summer - good things.

Zapf
19th November 2005, 20:46
as long as your knee don't hit anything hard then it should be ok... but I wear as much protection as I could... "gear could be replaced"

sels1
19th November 2005, 21:18
I have recently bought a pair and find them very comfortable. Last summer it just got too hot in my cordura pants, and I am just not in to leather.
Apparently you can buy removable armour for knees and hips that just slip down inside. (might look into that sometime) But even without the armour they can save you a lot of grief. Consider a broken bone will heal in x number of weeks but the damage from severe grazing can take months - its like a 3rd degree burn - whole heaps of flesh can be grated away - not to mention the infections and skin grafts.

inlinefour
19th November 2005, 21:23
Ive just found out the misses is getting me a pair of the camo pants. Good to hear that they are actually oK as I'm rather skepticle.

WINJA
19th November 2005, 21:31
Ive just found out the misses is getting me a pair of the camo pants. Good to hear that they are actually oK as I'm rather skepticle.
I DONT THINK THEY MAKE THEM IN XXX CHUNKY , SO YOU SHOULD STILL BE SKEPTICLE FAT ARSE

inlinefour
19th November 2005, 21:38
I DONT THINK THEY MAKE THEM IN XXX CHUNKY , SO YOU SHOULD STILL BE SKEPTICLE FAT ARSE

Get back on that roof and get painting. Oh and dont forget to give Sensei your bike to look after.

flash
19th November 2005, 21:47
I guess there's a time and place to wear them then, "down to the shops" being a good example. The story in your 1st post of the rider being dragged behind that vehicle gave me the impression you were buying them for normal road rides, commuting, etc.
!

ild still be using them in 100kph+ roads (theres quite alot over here) and if i just went out for a little fun ild probally wear them, but covermyself in my motox gear (hip, knee, etc).
if i was going really far like auckland or taupo ild want to be as protected as posable, thus wanting the leather but that will be sometime later on.

Zed
19th November 2005, 21:58
...but covermyself in my motox gear (hip, knee, etc).Sounds like a plan. You don't give a stuff about *fashion* do you! :niceone:

flash
19th November 2005, 22:07
*fashion* is the whole reason im getting the jeans, i myself wouldnt care walking down the street in full race leathers, but no one i know (their all stupid cage fanatics) would even stand by me in them, plus all the crazy nutter looks you get from the public, oh yeah and lets not forget the stupid jokes and remarks ild get by the kids at school. i wear jeans now with a courda jacket and if i go into the hills i wear the motox gear, but its all hidden under my jeans so when your on the bike it cant be seen *sorter*

Zed
19th November 2005, 22:10
i wear jeans now with a courda jacket and if i go into the hills i wear the motox gear, but its all hidden under my jeans so when your on the bike it cant be seen *sorter*Aha, a most cunning plan! :spudbn:

NhuanH
20th November 2005, 06:41
NhuanH wore a pair to a KB event last Thursday, he looked casual in them and I spose felt quite comfortable, just like normal jeans...but not good protection IMO.
But then, people say I always look casual ;) You're right, I was quite comfortable, must have been the company :niceone:

As for protection, always use protection kids :blip:

Aucker
20th November 2005, 07:45
Been thinking of getting some of d/jeans. good info here tks. :2thumbsup

Coyote
20th November 2005, 08:35
I got the black chinos about a year ago. Haven't properly tested them in a crash (yet) but have worn them quite often. They're really comfortable on the bike and walking around with them, the kevlar is pretty good for deflecting wind chill and I can get away with using them as school uniform. Being made of normal fabric they can get really cold on a cold days riding and they do absorb water but they aren't designed to protect you from the weather anyway. They also look rather spiffing I must say

flash
20th November 2005, 10:28
thanks for all your replies, ill think ill go buy some after exams.

just wondering about the other brands that do them now? eg/shift, are they any better of worse?, whats the adverge price for them now these days?

Ixion
20th November 2005, 10:52
I got the black chinos about a year ago. Haven't properly tested them in a crash (yet) but have worn them quite often. They're really comfortable on the bike and walking around with them, the kevlar is pretty good for deflecting wind chill and I can get away with using them as school uniform. Being made of normal fabric they can get really cold on a cold days riding and they do absorb water but they aren't designed to protect you from the weather anyway. They also look rather spiffing I must say

Interesting. I didn't know they did those - they seem to only be on the Australian and Canadian websites, not the US one. I thought they only did the jean style. Those ones look formal enough to wear to the office , which is my big hassle with leggings.

I might be in for a pair of those, if they do them to fit fat dwarfs. Did you get them locally or import them ?

avgas
20th November 2005, 10:58
Draggin jeans are on my xmas wish list. (Well actually draggin cargos)

skelstar
20th November 2005, 11:40
thanks for all your replies, ill think ill go buy some after exams.

just wondering about the other brands that do them now? eg/shift, are they any better of worse?, whats the adverge price for them now these days?
Was talking to the Sawyers help yesterday and she said that the Shift ones ($169) only had a Kevlar 'weave' and not panels. 5% content and not 100% like the DJeans. Apparently they dont hold up too well after a few washes. She lost me a bit there...washing jeans, whats that about? :)

inlinefour
20th November 2005, 15:08
I got Draggin jeans not shifts, but i got the draggins cause the shifts were out of stock. I have looked pretty closely at shifts and i dont really believe they are worse or better than draggins. They actually have kevlar weaved into their fibres, and they are way more than 5% kevlar...they look pretty solid and you can tell up close on the inside most of the weave is kevlar and not denim. I would trust em with my ass as much as the dragin's/ Although shift is more a motorcross company i doubt they would put something out claiming it has a similar resistance as draggins,and then find your ass gets wiped over a couple of k's of bitumen road; look at the law suits they would get lol!! only one real way to find out i guess though...ive written my bike off its someone elses turn!!

I got talking to the supplier of the shift pants at the local and he offered me a pair for $150-00, upon hearing that , I should have grabbed them...:doh:

heavenly.talker
20th November 2005, 16:45
Hubby just crashed in a pair of Shifts. He held together remarkely well all things considered. If you want that jean feeling then you should be wearing Shifts or Draggins. Civi jeans will shred on contact whereas the Shifts and Draggins are made to take the brunt for you.

What?
21st November 2005, 05:17
If you want Draggin Jeans, buy them from the USA - even with their extortionate postage, they are still heaps cheaper than buying here or Aussie.

Lou Girardin
21st November 2005, 08:08
There are some alternatives to Draggin's too.
Shift do black and blue faded styles @ $179.00 inc.
Teknic have introduced kevlar jeans in regular and short leg sizes @ $149.00 inc.
Both available at AMPS.

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 08:31
Haven't heard of the Teknic kevlar jeans before...we will pop in and have a looksee.


Thanks for the tip.
We are replacing all our civi jeans with Kevlar jeans and it's the min that we ride in these days. They are so worth it and the same price as a pair of Levi's.

EDIT: The short leg sounds good too (being vertically challenged sucks when you know whatever you buy needs 3-4 inches cut off the bottom when you get home).

Biff
21st November 2005, 11:34
Yup - I've owned several pairs and styles of Draggin jeans. They're not cheap - but they're damned comfy. Thankfully I've never binned while wearing them. I've also got the optional removable Knox hip and shin armour.

Recommended.

mstriumph
21st November 2005, 11:55
will probably hafta think seriously about safety and get myself something a bit more armoured than denim after coming over to nz an seeing you lot kitted up in full leathers for a trip to the local store :yes: .....

but ... does any other female rider have problems with the cut of draggins? .. ie too large in the waist to the size of the hips? i have tried on several pairs and, when i try squatting in them, the waist pulls right down over my hips .....

without a belt [which i'd rather not wear] am afraid they'd come right off immediately if i did [come off, that is] ... leaving me more exposed [in all senses of the word] than if i'd just stuck with the denims ......... [and no - this is west australia - trust me, full leathers is OUT!]

2much
21st November 2005, 12:00
Have to agree with winja here, have tested Draggins down the road and was very impressed. One word of advise thou, make sure they fit properly and that the kevlar sits in the right place. I've seen the results of the kevlar sitting too low on the knee and it ain't pretty.

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 16:39
but ... does any other female rider have problems with the cut of draggins? .. ie too large in the waist to the size of the hips? i have tried on several pairs and, when i try squatting in them, the waist pulls right down over my hips .....




Yip...have problems getting a fit for my thunder thighs and butt in comparison to my waist. My shifts fit really well though and don't fall off at the waist.

HenryDorsetCase
21st November 2005, 16:47
has anyone seen these Teknik jeans in christchurch? (esp short leg styles...) I would dearly like to try some on

I ride a lot in leather jacket, boots and jeans (also gloves and helmet), because my leathers have no pockets, and one piece suit is heavy, hot to wear and generally not very practical round town.. commuting, down the shops, out for coffee etc. i think these jeans sound perfect.

WINJA
21st November 2005, 16:49
[QUOTE=mstriumph]but ... does any other female rider have problems with the cut of draggins? .. ie too large in the waist to the size of the hips? i have tried on several pairs and, when i try squatting in them, the waist pulls right down over my hips .....

QUOTE]


Yip...have problems getting a fit for my thunder thighs and butt in comparison to my waist. My shifts fit really well though and don't fall off at the waist.
SO STAY HOME AND BAKE MUFFINS AND DO THE DISHES INSTEAD

Ixion
21st November 2005, 16:52
I don't like muffins. can y'get them to do some sausages instead.

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 16:55
Your hand not willing to put out this morning WINJA?

Must be the reason you are being a grumpy prick...

No reason to stay at home, The Shifts are awesome, my bike is rad and I'm defintely not the bake and dishes type of girl.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :finger:

flash
21st November 2005, 17:04
im still sceptical about these shift jeans. are you sure they would hold up the same as dragging jeans in a crash?, because if so their the smarter option price wise

WINJA
21st November 2005, 17:08
I don't like muffins. can y'get them to do some sausages instead.
ANYTHING YOU WANT , THEIR WOMAN AND WILL DO AS THEIR TOLD

flash
21st November 2005, 17:12
ANYTHING YOU WANT , THEIR WOMAN AND WILL DO AS THEIR TOLD


said like a true bloke :2thumbsup , what type of beer do you want as a prize, ive already ruled out heineikin

WINJA
21st November 2005, 17:16
said like a true bloke :2thumbsup , what type of beer do you want as a prize, ive already ruled out heineikin
ROYAL CROWN PREMIUM DRAFT COLA , ICE COLD THANKS , BUT RELAX TAKE A SEAT IVE GOT MRS WINJA TO DO THAT SORTA STUFF FOR ME

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 17:17
ROYAL CROWN PREMIUM DRAFT COLA , ICE COLD THANKS , BUT RELAX TAKE A SEAT IVE GOT MRS WINJA TO DO THAT SORTA STUFF FOR ME

Like a man who likes to live dangerously :lol: :lol:

flash
21st November 2005, 17:18
ROYAL CROWN PREMIUM DRAFT COLA , ICE COLD THANKS , BUT RELAX TAKE A SEAT IVE GOT MRS WINJA TO DO THAT SORTA STUFF FOR ME

now this is a man to look up to :rockon:

Ixion
21st November 2005, 17:19
Like a man who likes to live dangerously :lol: :lol:

Where's the sausages? Mr WINJA said you were cooking sausages.

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 17:21
Where's the sausages? Mr WINJA said you were cooking sausages.

:lol:
If you knew what my cooking skills are like you wouldn't be so keen:whistle:

WINJA
21st November 2005, 17:23
:lol:
If you knew what my cooking skills are like you wouldn't be so keen:whistle:
YOUR A WOMAN COOKING AND CLEANING SHOULD BE INSTINCTIVE.
YOUR OVEN COMPLETES YOU

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 17:27
Sorry mate...
my oven is liberated...
It won't heat on command for anyone but me.

DingDong
21st November 2005, 17:36
I wear jeans now & again... but I dont plan to fall off.

Dont panic! or shit baked beans... I've had my share of bouncing around and I have leathers that I wear when the need arises (repaired a few times) but hey... you look after you and I'll look after me.

Where the rush without the risk... geesse, get hard:bash:

scumdog
21st November 2005, 19:42
ANYTHING YOU WANT , THEIR WOMAN AND WILL DO AS THEIR TOLD

No, no, it's THEY'RE WOMAN, not THEIR......

Unless you have a woman, then it COULD be 'their woman' (ya got one WINJA?)

WINJA
21st November 2005, 19:45
No, no, it's THEY'RE WOMAN, not THEIR......

Unless you have a woman, then it COULD be 'their woman' (ya got one WINJA?)
WHAT ARE YOU THE SPELING POLICE?
AND YES THERE IS A MRS WINJA AND SHES BEUTIFUL AND CLEVER (AND READS MY POSTS)

scumdog
21st November 2005, 19:49
WHAT ARE YOU THE SPELING POLICE?
AND YES THERE IS A MRS WINJA AND SHES BEUTIFUL AND CLEVER (AND READS MY POSTS)

I did - but thought she was another one of your fantasies...:laugh: :killingme :Oops:

heavenly.talker
21st November 2005, 19:53
YES THERE IS A MRS WINJA AND SHES BEUTIFUL AND CLEVER (AND READS MY POSTS)
Awwwwww I just knew there was a loving wonderful man under that exterior ...shucks...you're so sweet.
I'm betting that Mrs Winja has you wrapped around her...lol

All jokes aside though kudos for the loving (and extremely funny and insightful )post!


EDIT: Tried to give you bling...but as men are often want to do...I have to spread it around some!

WINJA
21st November 2005, 20:08
Awwwwww I just knew there was a loving wonderful man under that exterior ...shucks...you're so sweet.
I'm betting that Mrs Winja has you wrapped around her...lol

All jokes aside though kudos for the loving (and extremely funny and insightful )post!


EDIT: Tried to give you bling...but as men are often want to do...I have to spread it around some!
SHES THE BRAINS OF THE OUTFIT, CONSIDERING I DONT HAVE THE LOOKS EITHER I DONT BRING MUCH TO THE PACKAGE

scumdog
21st November 2005, 20:12
SHES THE BRAINS OF THE OUTFIT, CONSIDERING I DONT HAVE THE LOOKS EITHER I DONT BRING MUCH TO THE PACKAGE
Then hang onto here like grim death - women like that ain't too easy to come by.:2thumbsup

WINJA
21st November 2005, 20:14
Then hang onto here like grim death - women like that ain't too easy to come by.:2thumbsup
IM REAL GOOD TO HER ,SHES PREGNANT AT THE MOMENT SO I ONLY MAKE HER BRING ME BREAKFAST IN BED ON THE WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF EVERY DAY

scumdog
21st November 2005, 20:17
IM REAL GOOD TO HER ,SHES PREGNANT AT THE MOMENT SO I ONLY MAKE HER BRING ME BREAKFAST IN BED ON THE WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF EVERY DAY

OMFG!! ANOTHER flamin' WINJA!!

WINJA
21st November 2005, 20:39
:doh:
OMFG!! ANOTHER flamin' WINJA!!
DID I SAY I WAS THE FATHER?

scumdog
21st November 2005, 21:08
:doh:
DID I SAY I WAS THE FATHER?

Oh! another 1 litre rider eh?:blink:

heavenly.talker
22nd November 2005, 07:47
IM REAL GOOD TO HER ,SHES PREGNANT AT THE MOMENT SO I ONLY MAKE HER BRING ME BREAKFAST IN BED ON THE WEEKENDS INSTEAD OF EVERY DAY

F**k you are a cunny funt! ROFL!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:

Lou Girardin
22nd November 2005, 09:05
SHES THE BRAINS OF THE OUTFIT, CONSIDERING I DONT HAVE THE LOOKS EITHER I DONT BRING MUCH TO THE PACKAGE

Not even a package?

heavenly.talker
22nd November 2005, 09:09
Not even a package?


Let's hope it's not the "fast post" kind of variety!:lol: :lol: :lol:

mstriumph
22nd November 2005, 12:24
ANYTHING YOU WANT , THEIR WOMAN AND WILL DO AS THEIR TOLD
:2thumbsup
masterful, optimistic and suicidal all in the same sentence - GOTTA LUV THAT MAN!!! :love: :love:

heavenly.talker
22nd November 2005, 16:17
:2thumbsup
masterful, optimistic and suicidal all in the same sentence - GOTTA LUV THAT MAN!!! :love: :love:

Absolutely!!! :lol: :lol: :lol:

Macktheknife
22nd November 2005, 17:24
im still sceptical about these shift jeans. are you sure they would hold up the same as dragging jeans in a crash?, because if so their the smarter option price wise

I have both and I have crashed in the Shift's, I believe that the Draggins hold out better under extreme sliding conditions.
That said I also think the Shifts are a lot easier to wear for general use without melting anytime the temp goes over 19C!
I dont know if you are aware or not but you can now buy armour for your draggins as well, removable and quite good too. I imagine that the armour could be made to fit shifts just as easily? Still not as good as 'good leather' but ok for commuting or short trips.
:drinkup: :drinkup: :drinknsin

Xtat1k
22nd November 2005, 18:34
sounds alright rather have armour tho, not that i can talk i wear normal jeans at the mo. haha, spose ill learn the hard way, but just got a little grazed when i ditched about 6 months ago lol.

WINJA
22nd November 2005, 19:30
F**k you are a cunny funt! ROFL!!!!!:lol: :lol: :lol:
THAT BIT WAS NOT A JOKE , SHE REALLY IS PREGNANT AND REALLY DOES BRING ME BREAKFAST IN BED

Lance
22nd November 2005, 20:30
I have added heavey duty brases to mine as the tummies got a bit bigger than the hips and can guess were they will end up if I ever need them. I also have got some knee pads for them but find them uncomfortable. You can have them if you want

zeRax
22nd November 2005, 22:51
i have black draggin jeans i got for $100 off trademe as new condition, now paired with my new spidi factory jacket and jab gloves, hooraa ;> yet to test any, hope to keep it that way but no doubt itll happen at somestage, full confidence in the draggins thou and they arent that hot, infact the soft kevlar almost feels coool, maybe its just me thou