TL Temperatures

[Unit]

the '97 runs at around 54degrees, the '99 sits steady at 86degrees. Whats with that, does anyone know? I guess spacific's re: the differences in set up will help so will answer any questions relating to this as best I can, but Im sure there is some knowledgable person out there that majically has the answer or some insight straight off:hitcher:

[Grumpy]

Not 100% sure but I think the temp gauge sensor position was changed at some stage through the engines progression through the years.

[feral1]

Gidday Duc-Gurl,

Good to hear you are liking your TL. Red is the colour to have tho :2thumbsup
About the bike's temp. Your 99 model is running at good engine temp. The first 1997 'V' models had a bit of a funky thermo stat.
Suzuki NZ recommended replacement with a RGV article (1996 model if I remember rightly). I have a 1997 v model (awesome power delivery from that first model ECu and cams) to which I have had fitted a RGV thermo stat. It now runs very sweet and stable at anywhere between 79 (on a cold Sth Isl morning) to normally a steady 83-84.

Sweet
Feral1

[dss3]

my '98 ran about 85 for what its worth...

[Motu]

54 deg is way too cold,not good for your motor,it won't vaporise your fuel and you'll get fuel contamination in the oil,also the condensation won't boil out of your oil,all not good from the wear point of view.Fit a new thermostat.

[Unit]

Thanks for your responses so far, very helpful. I guess reading the handbook I discovered today would do me wonders. Not that Im technically minded by any stretch, but Im up for the challenge.:banana: :doobey:

[DMNTD]

54 deg is way too cold,not good for your motor,it won't vaporise your fuel and you'll get fuel contamination in the oil,also the condensation won't boil out of your oil,all not good from the wear point of view.Fit a new thermostat.

....appears to be a '97 model thang. My last '97 model did and so do others also.
There maybe a replacement thermostat that'll read "true'r".
Shall check it out.

[saul]

Jump on to www.tlplanet.com:2thumbsup

Search and you will find:blip:

I modified mine =changed the thermo and shifted the postion to where the 98's locate it.

In fact I have a spare housing (with original thermo) here if you want to muck around doing it :yes:

[John]

thread hijack... wasnt your tl that pulled into the warehouse today was it? I was just leaving.

[TLDV8]

the '97 runs at around 54degrees, the '99 sits steady at 86degrees. Whats with that

From 1998 TLS's and all TLR's have the temp sender here in the thermostat housing,as already said above the 97 has in in the left hand tank of the radiator giving a lower reading.Any signal the ECU see's from 80C and down will run the cold start map which is not good for the engine.Moving the sender and perhaps a thermostat rating chance will improve things,the later TLS's also have a cold coolant bypass line going back to the pump which seems to help in quicker warm up.

Pic here
http://photos.imageevent.com/tldv8/coolingsystem/websize/Thermostat2.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/tldv8/coolingsystem/websize/DSC0PumpHousing98and.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/tldv8/coolingsystem/websize/Pump9.JPG

http://photos.imageevent.com/tldv8/coolingsystem/PumpX.jpg

[Unit]

thread hijack... wasnt your tl that pulled into the warehouse today was it? I was just leaving.
Yea that was me, looks like my cover is blown, did I mention my bike is blue? Thought so

[wendigo]

...Any signal the ECU see's from 80C and down will run the cold start map which is not good for the engine.Moving the sender and perhaps a thermostat rating chance will improve things,the later TLS's also have a cold coolant bypass line going back to the pump which seems to help in quicker warm up.


Thanks for that heads up - didn't realise that. Got a '97 model that only ever see's above 80 in a traffic jam. Even thrashing it around it around Manfield & Taupo only ever got it up to 72. Is it just the themostat that needs to be changed or does the probe need to be upgraded too? Cheers

[S&S]

Hi, for what its worth, my 99 TLR sits around 84-85, but if im sitting in traffic & not moving much, it really spikes, i've had it up to 107, gets a little toasty on the inside of ya thighs :sweatdrop

[BurnCycle]

Click Me (http://www.tlplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?s=&threadid=49971) :yes:

[TLDV8]

Thanks for that heads up - didn't realise that. Got a '97 model that only ever see's above 80 in a traffic jam. Even thrashing it around it around Manfield & Taupo only ever got it up to 72. Is it just the themostat that needs to be changed or does the probe need to be upgraded too? Cheers

You would need to move the sensor (same physical part on all models) from the L/H side of the radiator to a replacement 1998 + thermostat rear housing or do the mod as Glen (Saul) did...the thing is a 97 TLS is running the same coolant temperture as a 98 +,the problem lies with the ECU being sent a wrong resistance signal because of the cooler sensor location and then it thinks the bike is warming up every time it see's a value for 80C or less and then goes to the cold start map... 97 have been known to raise the oil level in the sump because of fuel wash getting past the rings...There have been a few variations on what thermostat is in a stock 97,some have said a 76C,near all other TL's have a 82C unit which is slightly different to the 97 so would need changing also.

[TLDV8]

I clicked on your link and all I got was this bloody message.....

For those with TLS's it would be worth signing up on TLPlanet so you can access the thread Burn posted..there is a ton of TL1000 info on that site and as a rule a very friendly membership... ask a question on almost anything and someone will step up to help... imhofwiw

[WRT]

Yup, TLPlanet is good, lotsa info on there. And my TLR used to sit on 83-84, except in traffic where it would climb, not uncommon to see it in the 90's. Had the odd occasion where it topped 100, which is a bit nerve racking, but I read somewhere in the manual that its safe up to some quite high temp - I think 120 degrees? Someone might like to look this up to confirm.

In summer you wind up getting quite a toasty arse from sitting over the top of the rear cylinder . . . they are quite a hot bike to ride in the city.

[wendigo]

You would need to move the sensor (same physical part on all models) from the L/H side of the radiator to a replacement 1998 + thermostat rear housing or do the mod as Glen (Saul) did...the thing is a 97 TLS is running the same coolant temperture as a 98 +,the problem lies with the ECU being sent a wrong resistance signal because of the cooler sensor location and then it thinks the bike is warming up every time it see's a value for 80C or less and then goes to the cold start map... 97 have been known to raise the oil level in the sump because of fuel wash getting past the rings...There have been a few variations on what thermostat is in a stock 97,some have said a 76C,near all other TL's have a 82C unit which is slightly different to the 97 so would need changing also.

Thanks for that - have heard about the rising oil level so been keeping an eye on that. Hadn't heard 'bout the cold start map though. Cheers all.

[WRT]

Had a quick squiz in the manual for my old TLR, apparently, you are not supposed to go over 120 degrees, the display will start blinking at that point to let you know to turn the engine off. At 140 degrees, the display will change to read HI. Anyone who lets their engine get this hot should be slapped. Repeatedly.

I would assume that the above also applies to the TLS, or any other bike running this engine.