Street races and the cops.

[Waylander]

All these complaints about speeding kills and the higher and higher concentration of cops out on the roads with thier little speed checking toys.

What I want to know is this. Every weekend nights here out on Te Rapa, all the boy racers in thier jap imports, their Holdens and what not all gather and park up on the side of the street and start drag racing. Last friday night the cars parked up were about taking up 1.5ks and 3 rows deep. All of them racing at some point. How come the cops never roll up to these spots in numbers and start handing out tickets?

I gaurentee they will fill thier yearly quota in one night of this. Speed infringments, non warrented cars, peaple carrying passengers on restricted/learners liscense, being out past curfew time on restricted/learners liscense.

If they want to say speeding is a dangerous thing how come they don't do anything about it where it really matters?

[marty]

it's like this. all the traffic cops go home at 0200. 0300 at the latest.
if you knew how few cop cars were on the road after then, and the drunken shit they are dealing with when the pubs roll out at the south end at 0300, you'd realise why the boy racers are last in line of being picked on.

[Waylander]

This was at 10pm mate.

[onearmedbandit]

The police have had the same problem down here, known meeting areas. The problem is they break up the 'meeting', get a few tickets dealt with etc but the majority just move on to a new area. Could almost be they've decided that's the 'safest' place for 'em.

(I know that's more than likely not the case, but there is a chance.)

[marty]

ok. handover to night shift at 1030. basically no-one on the road. hamilton city is seriously understaffed.

[Motu]

I've always wondered - for decades - why Cops don't target pub car parks.If you want to hit drink driving start at the source.But oh no,stay away from there,that's harrasment.Get tough my arse.

[Waylander]

Would it help them then if I went out there and started writing down rego numbers? Or would they say the same thing they did when I called them that night, "Not enough officers avalilable." Should only take a few to track down rego numbers and issue tickets.

[Zed]

These type meetings have been taking place for years and years up here in Auckland, I can remember attending a few out South Ak way in my younger days and they can get totally out of control, especially when the drink/drugs element gets involved, which it does every time! Some years back a local resident drove his tractor into a few of the would-be racers and a bunch of them followed him back to his house where there was a big dust up, was in the newspapers and all.

I think the police are aware of these drags and the locations too, I have heard of them breaking up the meets from time to time, not sure what's happening down there in Hamilton though?

[onearmedbandit]

You're right Zed, these events have been going on for years. In fact as long as people have been modifying cars. And it will go on as long as people can still modify cars. Sheeesh, I've even attended a few myself.

[loosebruce]

ok. handover to night shift at 1030. basically no-one on the road. hamilton city is seriously understaffed.

Fuck! I'm in the wrong city, time to move me thinks......... Dss3 got a spare bed mate, no not yours ya bitch.

[dss3]

Fuck! I'm in the wrong city, time to move me thinks......... Dss3 got a spare bed mate, no not yours ya bitch.

Pffft, you couldn't get me that drunk!

[Karma]

Would it help them then if I went out there and started writing down rego numbers? Or would they say the same thing they did when I called them that night, "Not enough officers avalilable." Should only take a few to track down rego numbers and issue tickets.


I'd advise against it. As a bike at a car gathering you'd stand out like a sore thumb anyways.

Then when they all started getting tickets they'd know it was you. I'd imagine if they didn't find and kick the shit outta you they'd see your bike at some point and tear it to pieces.

It is really worth the hassle of a load of boy racers giving you crap so that the fuzz can make a bit more tax money?

[Waylander]

If it gets them off the backroads where I go and play? Yes.

[onearmedbandit]

Then they might start complaining about those pesky bikes tearing up and down their 'play area'!!

[Waylander]

I meant, if it keeps the cops off my playground lol.

[onearmedbandit]

Doh, now I see what you mean...

[WINJA]

This was at 10pm mate.
ITS CAUSE THE PIGS ARE CHICKEN SHIT , WHEN I WAS A YOUTH WHEN THE COPS TURNED UP TO OUR DRAG RACES TO STOP US THEYD BE BOTTLED AND SOME WOULD GET A HIDING

[HDTboy]

The way I see it, the "Boy Racers" (I hate that term) are better off drag racing in an industrial area late at night than in a residential area at 3pm.
I imagine the fuzz take a little bit of this view too. Which is why they'll only occasionally break them up -probably on a quiet night.
Another problem for the police is the sheer numbers of people racing at night, as soon as the cops show up you get 300 cars all trying to do runners, and that's when the problems start

[loosebruce]

you get 300 cars all trying to do runners, and that's when the problems start

I disagree i reckon thats when the fun starts

[The_Dover]

I'd advise against it. As a bike at a car gathering you'd stand out like a sore thumb anyways.

Then when they all started getting tickets they'd know it was you. I'd imagine if they didn't find and kick the shit outta you they'd see your bike at some point and tear it to pieces.

It is really worth the hassle of a load of boy racers giving you crap so that the fuzz can make a bit more tax money?

Gaylander, Urban Vigilante, saviour of Hamiltron and the arch nemesis of boy racers across the country.

I'd highly recommend you go down there on your crumpet cruiser and visibly be seen taking number plates, photographs and advising them of their illegal behaviour.

Do you prefer grapes or flowers? Lol, need I ask?

[spudchucka]

How come the cops never roll up to these spots in numbers and start handing out tickets?
They organise their events by mass texting and the cops aren't on the invite list.

They listen to scanners so they know what the local cops are up at any particular time.

As soon as they get any inclination that the cops are on to them they piss off and start organising their next meeting place.

They know the shift handover times and when the traffic cops are and aren't working.

The cops are under-resourced.

We don't know where they are at any given time without reliable information being handed to us by the public. Unless of course we are just lucky and stumble onto them.

Once in a while we do get lucky. I've had several events when two cops have effectively trapped 100+ vehicles on a country road and checked every one of them.

[spudchucka]

I've always wondered - for decades - why Cops don't target pub car parks.
Don't they? And all this time I thought they were fair game.

[WINJA]

Don't they? And all this time I thought they were fair game.
CERTAINLY ARE , ESPECIALLY THE KINGS ARMS IN NEWTON

[ZorsT]

There are five or so places in the Nelson region where "they" like to "hang out" and "spill" diesel.

The silly thing is, all the cars start from Buxtons carpark RIGHT in the middle of town, and drive in a convoy to and from the destination(s)

[kro]

These kids don't really fear the cops, they fear not being able to drive, and thats the fundamental difference, and mostly why they run from the law.

A few years back, a good friend of mine was experiencing the same trouble where he lived, but instead of calling the cops, he phoned all his mates who owned bikes, and they all converged on the gathering of boy racers togther, and sorted the dickheads out, they never returned to that venue, they were more afraid of these bikers than they would ever be of cops, because the bikers were not constrained by process, and procedure, they could bust nuts if need be, and walk away from it (mostly).

I don't condone "street justice" on the whole, but these kids in their fast cars are a new breed of idiot, one that does neither listen or learn from the law.

This was in Manurewa in case you're wondering.

[marty]

like spud says. and if there's 300 cars, only 2 of them racing, 1 gets caught, what happens to the other 299? they can only be held for 15 minutes to check details. you can't have it both ways - you can't insist on freedom of movement and speed and manners of driving/riding, then expect that to extend to other people who are doing no different to what you'd do in similar circumstances. imagine if the cops set up a road block on the coro loop and stopped and turned over every bike and it's rider, just cause the cops had heard that 2 bikes 'may' have been 'racing' at the front? this place would implode. winja's arse would be bleeding.

[thehollowmen]

video camera
hand it in to the cops on monday.

[Indoo]

ITS CAUSE THE PIGS ARE CHICKEN SHIT , WHEN I WAS A YOUTH WHEN THE COPS TURNED UP TO OUR DRAG RACES TO STOP US THEYD BE BOTTLED AND SOME WOULD GET A HIDING

And I bet Winja was one of those brave souls hiding behind two hundred or so other courageous kids chucking bottles at the sole cop car that turned up and telling each other how tough they were.

I think your overcompensating just a little Winja by talking so much shit, I would imagine that being rather thick and in a dead end job, might be depressing but talking yourself up on here is rather pathetic.

[Lias]

The irony of this is, the front page of the Waikato Times has a thing about a big crackdown on boy racers this weekend, busted a whole bunch fo them from what I skimmed in 3 seconds.

[NC]

LOL that's been happening for years!

The funniest thing was when they were held in carbine road, this dude went nuts and forklifted a few cars.

[Lias]

Found a link
http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/waikatotimes/0,2106,3494059a6004,00.html

[Motu]

LOL that's been happening for years!

The funniest thing was when they were held in carbine road, this dude went nuts and forklifted a few cars.

Been going on down there before boi racers were invented.Back when Clemow Drive was first put in and it was just a dead end road....Jim Donald ran Ford's race program,and also had a shop next to us where he build his Masport Escorts...test runs were done on Clemow Drive on sundays,there'd be rally cars,Formula Fords and some drag cars would turn up too.I once crouched on the alloy checker plate floor of a Ford Pop,hanging onto the roll cage like a monkey and jammed in sideways....because not only was the acceleration fierce,but when it changed gear the whole car would lurch sideways...plus the floor got real hot at the end of the run.Kinda fun being passenger in a drag car....

[madboy]

I wish I had more time to wade into this thread in more depth. BUt all I see here is hypocrisy. We're a bunch of motorcyclists - mostly petrol heads of one description or another. Damn - so we don't necessarily agree with another branch of the petrolhead community. Bugger. So what? Yeah, stick a WOF/Rego/License check in the middle of the Coro loop - that was funny! Perhaps we should encourage members of the public to dob in motorcyclists everytime they do something they (the members of the public) perceive as dangerous - they'd need a new police call centre just to take the 50,000 phone calls per week, let alone the poor cops to act on it! And I bet we'd all be happy about that!

And then we blast the cops cos they spend too much time on traffic, but we blast them when they don't spend enough time on traffic!! Can someone make up their mind? It's not often I feel sorry for cops, but I feel for those who've had to read the shite on this thread. Sometimes they really do have better things to do!

[WINJA]

And I bet Winja was one of those brave souls hiding behind two hundred or so other courageous kids chucking bottles at the sole cop car that turned up and telling each other how tough they were.

I think your overcompensating just a little Winja by talking so much shit, I would imagine that being rather thick and in a dead end job, might be depressing but talking yourself up on here is rather pathetic.
WHAT MAKES YOU THINK IM IN A DEAD END JOB BITCH.
INDOO ARENT YOU THAT TARD AT FOODTOWN THAT PUSHES THE TROLLEYS BACK , IM SERIOUS THAT IS YOU ISNT IT?

[marty]

And then we blast the cops cos they spend too much time on traffic, but we blast them when they don't spend enough time on traffic!! Can someone make up their mind? It's not often I feel sorry for cops, but I feel for those who've had to read the shite on this thread. Sometimes they really do have better things to do!

and THAT is the most sensible thing anyone has said today.

[onearmedbandit]

One of the biggest issues, for me at least, Madboy is we don't put diesel on the roads. That shit fucks me off. If your car can't wheelspin without diesel then just give up because both you and your car are pathetic.

[ajturbo]

They organise their events by mass texting and the cops aren't on the invite list.

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but tell me...
how come they (the cops)always used to turn up UNINVITED to my parties????

i used to tell them that it was an INVITE ONLY party and as they were NOT invited ...........but they just said that they WERE invited.....by the neighbours...:doh:
this used to happen so often we used to set our watches to 12am....as that was the time they always used to come around!!!!
i never found out who invited them!!!

[ajturbo]

And I bet Winja was one of those brave souls hiding behind two hundred or so other courageous kids chucking bottles at the sole cop car that turned up and telling each other how tough they were.

I think your overcompensating just a little Winja by talking so much shit, I would imagine that being rather thick and in a dead end job, might be depressing but talking yourself up on here is rather pathetic.



:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :killingme :killingme :killingme

[madboy]

One of the biggest issues, for me at least, Madboy is we don't put diesel on the roads. That shit fucks me off. If your car can't wheelspin without diesel then just give up because both you and your car are pathetic.Good point, I was just thinking illegal gatherings, excessive displays of speed and skanks, I'd forgotten about the dumbasses dropping diesel. Yeah, I agree - if spinning it up is what does it for ya, and what ya got needs lube, then go back to work until ya can afford something that doesn't need an artificial lubricant to get it going.

[scumdog]

One of the biggest issues, for me at least, Madboy is we don't put diesel on the roads. That shit fucks me off. If your car can't wheelspin without diesel then just give up because both you and your car are pathetic.

Too true -anybody who has a car that weak that they need to put diesel on the road to get the tyres to spin is a SMALL-COCKED waster who would make a limp-wristed faggot look tough'n'staunch!! (well,IMHO!!):mad:

[scumdog]

ITS CAUSE THE PIGS ARE CHICKEN SHIT , WHEN I WAS A YOUTH WHEN THE COPS TURNED UP TO OUR DRAG RACES TO STOP US THEYD BE BOTTLED AND SOME WOULD GET A HIDING

Ooooh! I bet THAT really showed 'em!! woohooo!!:tugger: :laugh: :killingme

[madboy]

Ooooh! I bet THAT really showed 'em!! woohooo!!:tugger: :laugh: :killingmeYou mainlanders just don't understand the cultural etiquette in south auckland... you can't bond with your neighbours at a BBQ without a good riot.

[scumdog]

You mainlanders just don't understand the cultural etiquette in south auckland... you can't bond with your neighbours at a BBQ without a good riot.

Sorry, my ignorance!! Who brings the Speights???:lol:

[HDTboy]

Sorry, my ignorance!! Who brings the Speights???:lol:
No No, you've got it all wrong. Real bogans drink Waikato from a wife beater bottle

[madboy]

That's assuming the bitch fetched it from the fridge...

[HDTboy]

That's assuming the bitch fetched it from the fridge...
There are wenches who don't?

[WINJA]

Ooooh! I bet THAT really showed 'em!! woohooo!!:tugger: :laugh: :killingme
ACTUALLY IT DID

[spudchucka]

but tell me...
how come they (the cops)always used to turn up UNINVITED to my parties????

i used to tell them that it was an INVITE ONLY party and as they were NOT invited ...........but they just said that they WERE invited.....by the neighbours...:doh:
this used to happen so often we used to set our watches to 12am....as that was the time they always used to come around!!!!
i never found out who invited them!!!
Thats why they aren't catching the boy racers, they're always busy breaking up your noisy bloody parties.

[The_Dover]

and skanks,

Hey homo, what's the fuckin problem with the dirty skanks??

[avgas]

hey man, take away all my excitement in the weekend.....cars are just bait and money for me there

[Lou Girardin]

Perhaps the 3 HP cops at 4.00PM in Huntly could have been spared to work the odd night shift. But then that would mean a significant revenue shortfall from all those killer company reps and school Mums that they apprehend.

[Brett]

One of the biggest issues, for me at least, Madboy is we don't put diesel on the roads. That shit fucks me off. If your car can't wheelspin without diesel then just give up because both you and your car are pathetic.

Exactly my thoughts. The other thing, is that you don't need to drive well to drive fast. You just need a heavy foot and be able to turn a steering wheel...and occasionally deal with oversteer and understeer...the true decent drivers are the ones who can consistently control drift, correct understeer and oversteer, break a car on the point of locking but keep it there and pick a good line through a corner.
What concerns me is that most of those little pricks sit...i mean lie down in their seat...attend a decent rally driving tutors course, and he will show you how to sit properly...to sum up...most of em can't drive, and they are STILL driving like they can.
On a bike, you can try to pretend your fast, but when you hit the first corner going to fast, that's it...9 times out of 10 you will go down!
Plus the pure physics of a bike are different.
The energy held by a car is much higher than a bike and will do much more damage to anything it hits. EK=1/2mv2...the mass and velocity are squared...more weight = more energy. More speed = more energy.
I used to be into the whole car racing scene, but since The Fast and the Useless came out and everyone got into the scene, it has quickly degraded.

[madboy]

Yeah it's pretty funny how horsepower and straight line speed are perceived to equal driving skill and ability to get through a corner fast/alive. Many moons ago when I was into that scene the belief was that if your car was as fast as my car then you should be able to keep up with me. Amazing how many tried that theory too. That and the constant cop attention (i.e. you drive boyracer car, what would you like a ticket for?) was what got me out of it. Oh, and buying a house didn't help either.

It was just too scary when young kids, 15-18yos with some really seriously fast cars, would try it on with you. I was 25. I'd had a few years of racing/rallying experience, not to mention a very mispent youth in cars. But cos their GSR/Evo/WRX/modded GTX was faster than my largely standard-ish GTX, must mean they could keep up! I didn't want to be the "other driver" involved in a race with someone who cocked it up and killed someone.

[madboy]

Hey homo, what's the fuckin problem with the dirty skanks??I was listing skanks with the positives of excessive displays of speed and illegal gathering, not the negatives of diesel. There is nothing wrong in my books with a drunk 14yo wearing white pants.

[ZorsT]

. EK=1/2mv2...the mass and velocity are squared...more weight = more energy. More speed = more energy.

actually only the velocity is squared.

Order of operations

B brackets

E xponents

M ultiplacation/division

A ddition/subtraction

[scumdog]

I was listing skanks with the positives of excessive displays of speed and illegal gathering, not the negatives of diesel. There is nothing wrong in my books with a drunk 14yo wearing white pants.


As long as you only look!!:blip: