tokelau what a joke

[WINJA]

THEY WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SOON WILL BE , BUT NZ WILL STILL GIVE THEM A $9,000,000 ANNUAL GRANT , FUCKEM , WE CANT AFFORD IT ALL PACIFIC BLUGGERS SHOULD FROM NOW ON STAND AND FALL ON THEIR OWN 2 FEET , THIS GOVERNMENT IS TAXING US SO HEAVILY AND THE BURDEN CAN BE REDUCED IF WE STOP GIVING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS AWAY EACH YEAR TO OVERSEAS GOVERNMENTS.
I REALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK IF THEIR ECONOMYS CRUMBLE AND THEY ALL GO HUNGRY , THERES HUNGRY KIDS IN NZ AND OUR EDUCATION STANDARD IS DROPPING , HOSPITALS HAVE ENDLESS CUES ,LOOK AFTER NEW ZEALANDERS FIRST

[heavenly.talker]

THEY WANT TO BE INDEPENDENT AND SOON WILL BE , BUT NZ WILL STILL GIVE THEM A $9,000,000 ANNUAL GRANT , FUCKEM , WE CANT AFFORD IT ALL PACIFIC BLUGGERS SHOULD FROM NOW ON STAND AND FALL ON THEIR OWN 2 FEET , THIS GOVERNMENT IS TAXING US SO HEAVILY AND THE BURDEN CAN BE REDUCED IF WE STOP GIVING HALF A BILLION DOLLARS AWAY EACH YEAR TO OVERSEAS GOVERNMENTS.
I REALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK IF THEIR ECONOMYS CRUMBLE AND THEY ALL GO HUNGRY , THERES HUNGRY KIDS IN NZ AND OUR EDUCATION STANDARD IS DROPPING , HOSPITALS HAVE ENDLESS CUES ,LOOK AFTER NEW ZEALANDERS FIRST


Don't you know this is the fee that New Zealand pays to have first pick of all the boys for the All Blacks?:hitcher:

[MSTRS]

Agreed. But those that decide these things don't listen to those that pay for it. Got any brilliant ideas there?

[WINJA]

Agreed. But those that decide these things don't listen to those that pay for it. Got any brilliant ideas there?
YEAH , START DODGING TAXES

[Macktheknife]

Tax avoidance WINJA..... not tax evasion, thats illegal!

[WINJA]

Don't you know this is the fee that New Zealand pays to have first pick of all the boys for the All Blacks?:hitcher:
I HATE RUGBY .
AND LEAGUE AND CRICKET

[heavenly.talker]

Tax avoidance WINJA..... not tax evasion, thats illegal!

Errrr um...

so is tax evasion...
:hitcher: :hitcher:


I HATE RUGBY .
AND LEAGUE AND CRICKET
Hmmmm...
and they are all the blokey sports...you not switching teams are you there mate?
...I was worried about your health before...
...ahhhh!! click...thud...

got it...
okay
Who the hell are you and what have you done with the real WINJA!

[WINJA]

Hmmmm...
and they are all the blokey sports...you not switching teams are you there mate?
...I was worried about your health before...
...ahhhh!! click...thud...

got it...
okay
Who the hell are you and what have you done with the real WINJA!
IVE ALWAYS HATED THOSE SPORTS , GUESS WHAT I DONT DRINK ALCOHOL EITHER

[parsley]

HOSPITALS HAVE ENDLESS CUES
What, like little signs saying "Broken arm? Try the casualty department". :thud:

[Pathos]

Yeah $9mil thats like the cost to run a whole school or something ... give or take a council...

who gives a crap, the only difference is they'll be able identify with their country of origin and have pride in it and pretend to be a REAL country while 90% of there population do shit work 40+hours a day part of which goes back to the NZ government.

[Marmoot]

shikes, Winja.....I thought being a landlord you'd be able to work out some tax-savings?

[Hitcher]

Actually it's not a silly investment. I'm constantly surprised that the New Zealand Government doesn't make National Superannuation payments to retired PI people who choose to return to the islands. Given that it is often the older PI generation that brings up the kids, rather than parents, this would keep school age kids in the islands and out of trouble in New Zealand, providing them with a greater sense of their culture and other benefits, notably less cost to the New Zealand taxpayer.

[Dafe]

Don't you know this is the fee that New Zealand pays to have first pick of all the boys for the All Blacks?:hitcher:

Some fee, considering the Tokelaus don't produce shit as far as rugby players are concerned! Sounds like another Labour policy to me!

[WINJA]

shikes, Winja.....I thought being a landlord you'd be able to work out some tax-savings?
ITS NEVER ENOUGH

[WINJA]

Yeah $9mil thats like the cost to run a whole school or something ... give or take a council...

who gives a crap, the only difference is they'll be able identify with their country of origin and have pride in it and pretend to be a REAL country while 90% of there population do shit work 40+hours a day part of which goes back to the NZ government.
IF THEY DONT LIKE THE WORK THEY CAN GO HOME , 9 MILL IS STILL SHITLOADS , THATS 1OOOS OF CATARACT OPS , AND UNTOLD HIP OPERATIONS FOR NEW ZEALANDERS WHO HAVE BEEN TAXED TO DEATH , SERIOUSLY I DONT WANT ANY MONEY TO BE GIVEN TO OTHER COUNTRYS

[myvice]

Its one thing if they have a major disaster and helping out, but this constant overseas funding is hurting those of us in this country who are already on the bread-line.
The government seams to be inventing excuses not to give us a well-deserved and overdue break from the 10001 different little taxes they impose on us every step of the way.
Not to mention the other things like the price hike to $150 for a passport!
You can go over seas for less than that!
I wonder when it will all end? If ever.
It seams like a bit of a contradiction when another country/island wants to be independent that we give them money.
For one thing we aren’t independent ourselves, and if they are getting money from us, then they aren’t independent ether!
I don’t know why I bother voting, all a pack of two faced thieving leaches at the best of times.

[jimbo600]

Well ol' Winji 9 million a year is cheaper that what it would cost to clean the fucking mess up if we didn't put up the pingas. They'll all be living here with NZ citizenship anyway.

[WINJA]

Well ol' Winji 9 million a year is cheaper that what it would cost to clean the fucking mess up if we didn't put up the pingas. They'll all be living here with NZ citizenship anyway.
WE CAN SOON CHANGE THAT LAW

[Swoop]

Need to look at Tonga as well... "military aid" package???
Those fuckers fire a 21 gun salute every time the king takes a dump!!!!:thud:

[jrandom]

Actually it's not a silly investment. I'm very happy for the Gummint to exile the coconuts and let them eat pork and taro on the Kiwi tab to their hearts' content, so that my home contents insurance premiums may fall, and I may walk the streets of Otara unarmed.

Couldn't agree more.

[Lias]

We need to close the borders to all PI immigrants, and bring back dawn raids and 0800 dob-a-fob to clean out all the illegals.

Then we pursuade france and the US to use the remaining inhabited pacific islands for above ground nuclear testing, and voila, no more problems with bloody fobs.

[MSTRS]

It seams like a bit of a contradiction when another country/island wants to be independent that we give them money.
For one thing we aren’t independent ourselves, and if they are getting money from us, then they aren’t independent ether!

Like the benefit system here....one of the benefits is known as TheIndependentYouthAllowance. What is up with that??

[The Stranger]

Tax avoidance WINJA..... not tax evasion, thats illegal!

Actually, NZ is one of the only countries in the world where tax avoidance is illegal too.

It is illegal to order your affairs such that you pay a minimum of tax.

[The Stranger]

IVE ALWAYS HATED THOSE SPORTS , GUESS WHAT I DONT DRINK ALCOHOL EITHER

Well there goes that theory.

[Colapop]

Actually it's not a silly investment. I'm constantly surprised that the New Zealand Government doesn't make National Superannuation payments to retired PI people who choose to return to the islands. Given that it is often the older PI generation that brings up the kids, rather than parents, this would keep school age kids in the islands and out of trouble in New Zealand, providing them with a greater sense of their culture and other benefits, notably less cost to the New Zealand taxpayer.

They do recieve super payments in the islands but must be back in the country for a period (3 months I think) to continue receiving them.

WINJA; The number of PI people in NZ who are paying taxes far outweighs the financial support the government gives their countries.
What about the number dole bludgers out there? What about those invalid beneficiaries who should be at work? What about those IHC people who just expect someone to look after them? What about the asian students that come over here and expect to get an education and [pay exhorbitant fees for it?

Who else is on your 'list' WINJA?

[Karma]

You think that's bad. Try living in the UK when they separated the Scottish and Welsh Parliaments.

Now the Scots and the Welsh can go to university for free whilst those of us in England have to pay for it. And here's the rub, the Scottish and Welsh parliaments are running a fairly sizable deficit that has to be made up by English taxpayers!!

It's all politics bullshit man.

[Lou Girardin]

When the Govt can give sufficient, even generous, aid to our disaster victims. Then and only then should they give foreign aid.
Apparently farmers flooded out in Gisborne for the 2nd time in a month will get nothing.

[WINJA]

They do recieve super payments in the islands but must be back in the country for a period (3 months I think) to continue receiving them.

WINJA; The number of PI people in NZ who are paying taxes far outweighs the financial support the government gives their countries.
What about the number dole bludgers out there? What about those invalid beneficiaries who should be at work? What about those IHC people who just expect someone to look after them? What about the asian students that come over here and expect to get an education and [pay exhorbitant fees for it?

Who else is on your 'list' WINJA?
THE PI PEOPLE IN NZ GET MORE THAN THEIR SHARE OF BENEFIT FROM THEIR TAX DOLLARS .I DONT SEE WHY WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEIR HOME COUNTRIES AS WELL , ESPECIALLY WHEN THERES NO MONEY LEFT IN THE KITTY FOR FARMERS THAT LOSE CROPS ETC.

[onearmedbandit]

Like the benefit system here....one of the benefits is known as TheIndependentYouthAllowance. What is up with that??

My father and I didn't see eye to eye for a long time, long story and all. It got to the point where I felt it was best that I wasn't living under his roof any longer. If it hadn't been for the Youth Independence Allowance, I would have been stuck where I was. Not good.

I wasn't a shithead as a child, nor was I perfect. But my father managed a large company, drank too much and we'd feel his wrath. I didn't choose to go on the benefit, but if I hadn't I would hate to know what the consequences would've been.

[WINJA]

My father and I didn't see eye to eye for a long time, long story and all. It got to the point where I felt it was best that I wasn't living under his roof any longer. If it hadn't been for the Youth Independence Allowance, I would have been stuck where I was. Not good.

I wasn't a shithead as a child, nor was I perfect. But my father managed a large company, drank too much and we'd feel his wrath. I didn't choose to go on the benefit, but if I hadn't I would hate to know what the consequences would've been.
AND YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THIS , I JUST WANT NZ TAXPAYERS MONEY TO ONLY GO TO NZERS

[oldrider]

Actually it's not a silly investment. I'm constantly surprised that the New Zealand Government doesn't make National Superannuation payments to retired PI people who choose to return to the islands. Given that it is often the older PI generation that brings up the kids, rather than parents, this would keep school age kids in the islands and out of trouble in New Zealand, providing them with a greater sense of their culture and other benefits, notably less cost to the New Zealand taxpayer.
I don't think that's a silly suggestion.
I spent quite a bit of time in and around the Pacific Islands so have some knowledge of them.
I'm way out of date now though I suppose. :doh: Cheers John.

[onearmedbandit]

AND YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THIS , I JUST WANT NZ TAXPAYERS MONEY TO ONLY GO TO NZERS

Whole-heartedly agreed WINJA.

[jrandom]

AND YOU CANT ARGUE WITH THIS , I JUST WANT NZ TAXPAYERS MONEY TO ONLY GO TO NZERS

An admirable, if slightly narrow-minded, view.

But who's to say that it's invalid to consider all residents of the South Pacific as one nation?

The islands that we happen to have had the luck to be born on are the only ones with reasonable natural resources and size. So be it. Am I to devote a small portion of my life's work to helping a hard-luck teenager in Alexandra and a single mum of two in Henderson, but not a family of four in Apia with a dad who can't find a job?

Obviously one must draw the line somewhere, and assign an equitable division of responsibility amongst the population of the world who have excess resources at their disposal. I can't save the starving millions of Africa.

But, given the choice, I'll err on the side of generosity.

Then again, what would I know? I'm pissed. And now you've got me all misty-eyed about the people who can't afford to drink Marlborough sauvignon blanc whenever they feel the urge.

[WINJA]

An admirable, if slightly narrow-minded, view.

But who's to say that it's invalid to consider all residents of the South Pacific as one nation?

The islands that we happen to have had the luck to be born on are the only ones with reasonable natural resources and size. So be it. Am I to devote a small portion of my life's work to helping a hard-luck teenager in Alexandra and a single mum of two in Henderson, but not a family of four in Apia with a dad who can't find a job?

Obviously one must draw the line somewhere, and assign an equitable division of responsibility amongst the population of the world who have excess resources at their disposal. I can't save the starving millions of Africa.

But, given the choice, I'll err on the side of generosity.

Then again, what would I know? I'm pissed. And now you've got me all misty-eyed about the people who can't afford to drink Marlborough sauvignon blanc whenever they feel the urge.
THE COUNTRYS THAT KICK INTO OUR COFFERS COULD BE PART OF OUR NATION , BUT NONE DO . CALL ME HEARTLESS BUT I DONT GIVE A FUCK IF PEOPLE IN OTHER COUNTRYS STARVE ,ESPECIALLY WHEN THERES HUNGRY KIDS IN THIS COUNTRY .
AND I NEVER ACCEPT THAT YOU CAN ONLY SUCCEDE WITH GOOD LAND , BTW MOST PACIFIC ISLANDS ARE LUSH, LOOK AT WHAT THE JEWS DO WITH THE DESSERT

[jrandom]

THE COUNTRYS THAT KICK INTO OUR COFFERS COULD BE PART OF OUR NATION , BUT NONE DO . CALL ME HEARTLESS...

OK. You're heartless.

Won't you think of the CHILDREN? :crybaby:


AND I NEVER ACCEPT THAT YOU CAN ONLY SUCCEDE WITH GOOD LAND, BTW MOST PACIFIC ISLANDS ARE LUSH

Lush, yes, at least in terms of palm trees and bush and whatnot. Capable of supporting proper agriculture? Not really.


LOOK AT WHAT THE JEWS DO WITH THE DESSERT

Too true there. My Yiddish grandmother makes lovely raisin cake.

[Colapop]

THE PI PEOPLE IN NZ GET MORE THAN THEIR SHARE OF BENEFIT FROM THEIR TAX DOLLARS .I DONT SEE WHY WE SHOULD SUPPORT THEIR HOME COUNTRIES AS WELL , ESPECIALLY WHEN THERES NO MONEY LEFT IN THE KITTY FOR FARMERS THAT LOSE CROPS ETC.

It's not only the PI people though, there are many countries that NZ tax payers support through donations ie. the tsunami affected countries full of terrorists in waiting like Indonesia.

I actually do agree with you though, if there is no money for internal aid then why support other countries? I would sponsor a "Save the Children" child but I have two at home who require my support first. When I no longer need to support them, then I will help elsewhere.

[Lou Girardin]

LOOK AT WHAT THE JEWS DO WITH THE DESSERT

Pavlovastein?

[WINJA]

Pavlovastein?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

[WINJA]

OK. You're heartless.

Won't you think of the CHILDREN? :crybaby:



Lush, yes, at least in terms of palm trees and bush and whatnot. Capable of supporting proper agriculture? Not really.



Too true there. My Yiddish grandmother makes lovely raisin cake.
THE PACIFIC ISLANDS ARE MORE CAPABLE OF SUPPORTING AGRICULTURE THAN NZ , DONT BE FOOLED ITS ABOUT MOTAVATION , WOULD YOU TOIL IF YOU GOT HANDOUTS?
I LIVED IN THE ISLANDS FOR A WHILE , IM PART ISLANDER AND SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE

[Lou Girardin]

WHAT DOES THAT MEAN

IT'S A JEWISH DESSERT.

[duckman]

IT'S A JEWISH DESSERT.

Pavlovastiener - A Jewish desserter ... :lol:

[oldrider]

IM PART ISLANDER AND SPEAK FROM EXPERIENCE
Which part? :blip: John.

[WINJA]

Which part? :blip: John.
THE VIOLENT PART

[oldrider]

THE VIOLENT PART
Good reply WINJA bloody funny. John.:doh:

[750Y]

i'm alright jack, keep your hands off my stack..

[jrandom]

i'm alright jack, keep your hands off my stack..

share it fairly, but don't take a slice of my pie?