Vtr1000, Cb900 Hornet, SV1000. Which one?

[MagicMarker]

Out of the VTR1000, CB900 Hornet, and SV1000, which one would be the best overall. Speed, comfort, ease of use, etc.. Will mostly be used for commuting, and weekend cruising, so looking for something that can do hopefully do both. Are there any other bikes that are similiar to the bikes listed above? and around the same price tag aswell.. suggestions?

Are there any common problems aswell on those bikes listed above? The vtr1000 has carbs while the CB900 is fuel injected, is there any problem with the carbs on the vtr1000?

EDIT: Looking for knowledge, not actually looking for one :)

[R6_kid]

from what i've heard the 900 hornet is mental. The VTR1000 i have ridden and thoroughly enjoyed (contemplating trying more vtwins soon).

as for the SV1000, havent ridden one but know lots of people that do, and none of them have complained.

[2much]

What about the TL???

try and find one person who owns one or has done, and doesn't swear by them..... they've got a huge following for a good reason.

[SixPackBack]

The Z1000 Kwaka is a far superior bike in almost every way, test one I am sure you will agree!

[dangerous]

Out of the VTR1000, CB900 Hornet, and SV1000, which one would be the best overall. Speed, comfort, ease of use, etc.. Will mostly be used for commuting, and weekend cruising, so looking for something that can do hopefully do both.

Are there any common problems aswell on those bikes listed above? The vtr1000 has carbs while the CB900 is fuel injected, is there any problem with the carbs on the vtr1000?
Well going by what yo have said the CB9 will be more suited to you, best alrounder by a long shot.... however I'm going to vote VTR as you havent mentioned shear fun factor... for that you need a twin.
The serious 2 VTR is a very nice tourer and as for the carbs... well they love to drink and do feel a bit slugish (old school) compared to injection.

[Zapf]

The Z1000 is also the most expensive....

Heard the CB900 will run for ever..... being a de-tuned sports bike motor... (but of course I would say that) :yes:

think you'll find the CB900 has the lowest seat to ground reach... makes it a bit nicer for traffic. The CB900 is also the smaller / shorter of those bikes... not much bigger than a VTR250...

[stify]

i like my vtr,a sort of compromise bike, sorta bit sportier than vfr and not hard out with sports style position, didn't like the sit up position on the cb,and the odd styling of the sv,vtr is very easy to ride,no unwelcome spikes in power through the rev range,bit heavish but tips in ok on the tighter stuff, does help to have the rear lifted with a spacer, but she ain't no rocket ship
i found it a good bike to jump from a 250 to, an sounds good with some pipes

[ducatilover]

tl1000s mmmmmm:headbang: :not:

[ducatilover]

not much bigger than a VTR250...
meh, my bros650 is smaller than a vtr250:blink:

[SixPackBack]

The Z1000 is also the most expensive....

Heard the CB900 will run for ever..... being a de-tuned sports bike motor... (but of course I would say that) :yes:

think you'll find the CB900 has the lowest seat to ground reach... makes it a bit nicer for traffic. The CB900 is also the smaller / shorter of those bikes... not much bigger than a VTR250...
The Z1000 is the most expensive for a good reason.
Ride a Z1000 followed by a CB900 and the difference is pronounced, more power, far superior handling and brakes and so much fun. The CB900 is competent but dull [sorryZapf]

[rogson]

The Z1000 is the best bike of this bunch in a lot of respects but has a fatal flaw IMO - weak low to mid range. Ride an SV1000 and Z1000 and you will know what I mean.

[The_Dover]

The SV1000S is a fuckin hoot to ride and if you chuck a decent set of cans on it sounds like rolling thunder. Mind you, the VTR's sound pretty sweet too.

My pick would be the SV cos it is a newer design and had a well sorted motor and chassis. It was a bit soft after coming of my gixxer but I still managed to scrape my toes and pucker my ring on Scenic Drive. The looks are a litle quirky but you can get a full fairing kit or build a bridge and ride the fucker.

[Lou Girardin]

I see you didn't ask about Z1000's. So out of the ones you did query, do you like 4's or twins?
That'll narrow it down.

[Devil]

Test rode all three and bought a triumph :D
But seriously, out of those three I'd put them in this order:

1) SV1000 naked
2) CB900F
5) VTR1000

SV: Very competent bike, comfortable (although i'd replace the seat, as I would on the CB900F as well). Sounds sexy as with pipes. Handling was good. The power is very linear and very manageable. Can do everything from farting around town to a blast in the countryside. Pillion seat is good, but i'd replace the foam (after comments from the missus).

CB: Seems to have the most straight line poke out of all three, it did everything very well. excellent all-rounder. Comfy riding position, everything falls to hand naturally. The problem I ran into was it was just "good". I'd have one though!

VTR: By far feels like the oldest bike there, the other two handle better, didnt like the riding position myself.

Try as well:
Yamaha FZ6n: What a riot. Plenty of poke, quite revvy, sounds neat, not alot of adjustment available in the suspension, but it seemed to be set up quite well. I enjoyed this bike, but it wasn't me.

Triumph Speed Four: You'll probably figure out why I bought it when you try it. The noise, the handling, the ride position.

When I was test riding it came down to the SV1000 naked and the speed four.

I didnt bother with the Z1000 or Z750 myself because the pillion seat is utter shite, and i'm planning on taking the other half places.

[MagicMarker]

I don't really mind if it's a v twin or an inline four, but those V twins sure sound good with cans. Think the z1000 is too expensive. Will have to try the others posted. Thanks. The SV seems to be looking pretty good, will have to test one of those out.

[vifferman]

I don't really mind if it's a v twin or an inline four, but those V twins sure sound good with cans. Think the z1000 is too expensive. Will have to try the others posted. Thanks. The SV seems to be looking pretty good, will have to test one of those out.
Yeah, that's the key: try them for yourself.
Because you've currently got an IL4, you may find the twins a bit vibey. On the other hand, the SV and VTR may be easier to ride in some ways.

Having had a VTR1000 myself, I'm sorta leaning away from recommending one. They're a good bike, but ugly, and compared to the SV, not as reliable, powerful or smooth (as far as the gearchange is concerned), and have a very short fuel range (even the later models with the bigger tanks).

But the bottom line is that you have to see what does it for you, then balance that against other more 'cerebral' factors (purchase price, servicing, reliability, where you're buying it from, who'll service it, resale value, how closely it fits in with the riding you'll be doing, etc.)

Good luck - and make sure you enjoy the test-riding.

[The_Dover]

Come see me or the tubby yank over the weekend. We can show you the shiny SV's.

[Grahameeboy]

I have the 05 SV1000S.....the Honda is cheaper but with the SV you get a slipper clutch that makes down changing on twisties.....like even down to 1st gear....like cutting a birthday cake.....plus you get lots of suspension adjustment and that digi display.........
The black frame and red paint is real classy too on tHe SV.

[skelstar]

Disclaimer: Ive only ever ridden one bike :) but I know what I like when I see it.

Theres a guy somewhere on this site that has an orange Z1000 with bellypan and radiator covers that looks f*cking fantastic. Im a fan of orange and Z's so am a bit biased. I was also passed by a black Z going down the Rimutakas the other weekend (not an unusual feat) and with the ugo mudguard removed the back tire looked huge and the bike just looked mean-as (depsite the very upright ridding pos).

[ducatilover]

Test rode all three and bought a triumph :D


Triumph Speed Four: You'll probably figure out why I bought it when you try it. The noise, the handling, the ride position.

When I was test riding it came down to the SV1000 naked and the speed four.
now thats taste. i think the triumph speed fours look the shizzle......do they go very well? i was considering getting an r6 or a speer four or daytona 650 when i'm on my full.......:banana:

[Devil]

now thats taste. i think the triumph speed fours look the shizzle......do they go very well? i was considering getting an r6 or a speer four or daytona 650 when i'm on my full.......:banana:
They're not the most powerfull 600 out there (100hp) but they do go nicely and have a nice broad midrange.

[ducatilover]

They're not the most powerfull 600 out there (100hp) but they do go nicely and have a nice broad midrange.
thats what i heard to. i was told theyre real fun to ride. the only problem is they have they same amount of tourqe as my bros650:blink: and that aint to powerfull

[skelstar]

I expect that its not going to make much difference unless one is a really good rider. I know its going to take me a long while before I get the most out of a 100hp 600 (let alone a 27hp 250). A more powerful bike might make you look like a better rider than one really is/are ;).

warning: post rife with speculation

[Devil]

*shrug* There's plenty of torque there to deal with myself, a pillion and gear (total about 150kg). 68NM I believe.

[ducatilover]

A more powerful bike might make you look like a better rider than one really is/are ;). hey i never looked like a better rider, though having a good handling bike is what i really want to make up for my inabilty:yes:

[Zapf]

The Z1000 is the best bike of this bunch in a lot of respects but has a fatal flaw IMO - weak low to mid range. Ride an SV1000 and Z1000 and you will know what I mean.

thats what I have heard... after I bought the hornet as well. low to mid range affects real life riding...:hitcher:

oh yes.. the orange Z1000's do look really goood.

[skelstar]

hey i never looked like a better rider, though having a good handling bike is what i really want to make up for my inabilty:yes:
I should have made it more clear I wasnt meaning anyone in particular.

I have this theory in my mind for my next bike. Why not a ~80hp sports bike thats really cheap new?, it'd be more than enough power for quite a while, so long as it handles. Im sure Id look more virtuous on a gixxer 1000, but in reality Im not half the rider than the gixxer is a bike, nor will I be I suspect (confused - I am).

Anyway, sorry about the thread hijack :).

[Zapf]

I should have made it more clear I wasnt meaning anyone in particular.

I have this theory in my mind for my next bike. Why not a ~80hp sports bike thats really cheap new?, it'd be more than enough power for quite a while, so long as it handles. Im sure Id look more virtuous on a gixxer 1000, but in reality Im not half the rider than the gixxer is a bike, nor will I be I suspect (confused - I am).

Anyway, sorry about the thread hijack :).

SV is suppose to have a better frame than the Hornet.... from what I gather... haven't proved it myself thou yet.

[ducatilover]

I should have made it more clear I wasnt meaning anyone in particular.

I have this theory in my mind for my next bike. Why not a ~80hp sports bike thats really cheap new?, it'd be more than enough power for quite a while, so long as it handles. Im sure Id look more virtuous on a gixxer 1000, but in reality Im not half the rider than the gixxer is a bike, nor will I be I suspect (confused - I am).

Anyway, sorry about the thread hijack :).
meh, just get a v-twin thats stuck in the right way and enjoy the flickability....oh yeah sorry forgot you already have one.....:whistle:

[cowpoos]

What about the TL???

try and find one person who owns one or has done, and doesn't swear by them..... they've got a huge following for a good reason.

yep...a Tl will leave all those pansy bikes in its wake...and you'll be ginning so much you'll need a bigger helmet because your cheeks will start to swell!!! :rockon:

[ducatilover]

yep...a Tl will leave all those pansy bikes in its wake...and you'll be ginning so much you'll need a bigger helmet because your cheeks will start to swell!!! :rockon:
can i ride it then?:msn-wink:

[cowpoos]

can i ride it then?:msn-wink:
can you afford to buy it??? then yes...it might be on dave andersons show room floor soon!!!

[skelstar]

can you afford to buy it??? then yes...it might be on dave andersons show room floor soon!!!
Oh god...dont tell me: K6 Gixxer1000? :)

[The_Dover]

Ha ha Poos, come to the dark side!!

I got a TLR today, noisy fecker, bit tame though.....

[ducatilover]

can you afford to buy it??? then yes...it might be on dave andersons show room floor soon!!!
of course i have $400:yes:

[cowpoos]

Ha ha Poos, come to the dark side!!

I got a TLR today, noisy fecker, bit tame though.....

tlr are shitty fat barstards...take a TLs out ya poof

[cowpoos]

Oh god...dont tell me: K6 Gixxer1000? :)

nope.....gsxr 750....just got a little insiders word today that suzuki nz arn't bringing in K6 750's....maybe on a individual basis only...so I'm gunna go have a chat to the ledgend dave anderson himself tomorrow...about the new gsx-r 750 he has in the show room...

[skelstar]

nope.....gsxr 750....just got a little insiders word today that suzuki nz arn't bringing in K6 750's....maybe on a individual basis only...so I'm gunna go have a chat to the ledgend dave anderson himself tomorrow...about the new gsx-r 750 he has in the show room...
Cool...anniversary one?

[cowpoos]

Cool...anniversary one?
could do....would preffer a non-anniversary....alittle cheaper and I'm not very good at keeping bikes in pristine condition externally...especially as suzukis traditional don't keep there brand new looks for very long...

[skelstar]

could do....would preffer a non-anniversary....alittle cheaper and I'm not very good at keeping bikes in pristine condition externally...especially as suzukis traditional don't keep there brand new looks for very long...
Yeah...spend the cash on some bits instead. A carbon fibre can... *nice*

[Gremlin]

Not only that, but buying an anniversary model means you buy it, then buy more parts as you don't want to ruin all the special bits, you put those back on when you sell.

so can, probably seat, chain, everything with special writing etc... madness really, unless you are going to keep it as a collectors item, and what's the point??

Bikes are there to be ridden.

[Nutter34]

Take the bikes for a ride and feel what you like. The way I see it, there are twin people and inline four people. Some like the screaminess, others the droning/boominess. So, after you've decided what engine you like, find the one that appeals to you.... I have a Z1000, so would go for that. I suppose the CB would be next.... I'm not nuts about twins, regardless of power characteristics.... They just don't sound right when being revved.... I have mates that feel exactly the opposite and love the twins.....
They all cost money, so buy the one you like the most....

[Teflon]

Out of the VTR1000, CB900 Hornet, and SV1000, which one would be the best overall. Speed, comfort, ease of use, etc.. Will mostly be used for commuting, and weekend cruising, so looking for something that can do hopefully do both. Are there any other bikes that are similiar to the bikes listed above? and around the same price tag aswell.. suggestions?

Are there any common problems aswell on those bikes listed above? The vtr1000 has carbs while the CB900 is fuel injected, is there any problem with the carbs on the vtr1000?

EDIT: Looking for knowledge, not actually looking for one :)
I would take the VTR over the rest, forgiving and easy to ride.

Fuel injection on the TLS and TLR is a pain in the arse around town. i can't see the SV being any different.

[Zapf]

I would take the VTR over the rest, forgiving and easy to ride.

Fuel injection on the TLS and TLR is a pain in the arse around town. i can't see the SV being any different.

funny enough the injection on SV is great :) with the VTR you'll be visiting the petrol station so often its not funny

[Jantar]

All three listed are really great bikes with the SV and VTR perhaps having a slight edge over the CB.

But if you are looking for atrue all rounder then I believe the DL1000 should be included. Not as fast as the 3 listed on open roads, but when you throw in the twisties and a bit gravel then the DL will leave the rest behind.

[Mattyc]

either the SV or VTR, cause plenty of cc and a Fairing.. it needs to have fairing.....:lol: both good looking bikes.

[stevedee]

How's about Kawasaki Z750 or Z750S, does it have to be thou?

[Jabez]

Having ridden the SV & VTR, I prefered the VTR as it seemed more comfortable for the other half (& was easier to lift the front wheel).....:)
Plus the current bang 4 buck of the VTR is hard to beat...

[JohnBoy]

i havent ridden the SV but i have ridden the VTR and CBR. a mate of mine has had the same issue that he eventually solved with buying the CBR and he loves it.
in my opinoin the CBR is better simply just on fuel milage as they re pretty much of a muchness.
Best of luck mate.. keep us all informed!:banana:

[gav]

Think it might depend if youre looking at buying new or second hand? Its a strange line up those three, how about a VFR800, best of both worlds? All three of those bikes listed are more of the budget options from the manufacturers, the SV especially, if you start looking closely is built pretty cheaply. The VFR just has nicer touches everywhere, better suspension and handling, better fuel economy and range, and sounds good too. The Triumph Sprints are worth looking at too, especially if going for a new bike.
Guess if you want a twin, best to buy one soon as they won't be around much longer, the VTR1000 isnt available as an '06 model and doesnt seem there will be a replacement offered.