Car people v bike people

[Lou Girardin]

I'm also on the MX5 list and it struck me that there's a huge difference in attitude between the two.
On kiwibiker, we bitch, argue, take the piss and generally have a laugh. But the other site is so serious, mention anything other than MX5's and someone complains that it's off - subject. No - one argues or even gives an opinion about anything but the cars.
I guess bikers are a lot more philosophical, or just plain stroppy.
Zen and the cult of the bike!
Lou

[Zed]

I'm also on the MX5 list and it struck me that there's a huge difference in attitude between the two.
On kiwibiker, we bitch, argue, take the piss and generally have a laugh. But the other site is so serious, mention anything other than MX5's and someone complains that it's off - subject. No - one argues or even gives an opinion about anything but the cars.
I guess bikers are a lot more philosophical, or just plain stroppy.
Zen and the cult of the bike!
Lou
LOL- you have some guts telling everyone here that you are on a cage forum as well as our beloved KB! :cool:

But honestly, I have really enjoyed myself here so far, despite being blackballed so often. I think the key to why I have endured is that I really love motorcycling. There is a common bond on this site that keeps us focussed on bikes regardless of the evreryday faults we as human beings find with one another.

This site is special because of the people who contribute. Nothing more and nothing less.


Zed

[Jackrat]

I also belong to another non bike site,Much the same thing applys there.
The talk is mostly kept very much to the main subject,and everybody watches what they say so as not to cause insult or create an arguement.
As a result few ever crack a joke or make an off tap statement in case they get their head bit off.I much prefer the give an take style of this site.
Some of the jokes told here would get you banned for life from the other one I belong to.Mind you I do wonder at times how some of the police officers on this site view some things that are said here.
Ahh well it's all water off this little black ducks back. :2thumbsup

[Zed]

I also belong to another non bike site,Much the same thing applys there.
The talk is mostly kept very much to the main subject,and everybody watches what they say so as not to cause insult or create an arguement.
As a result few ever crack a joke or make an off tap statement in case they get their head bit off.I much prefer the give an take style of this site.
Some of the jokes told here would get you banned for life from the other one I belong to.
:2thumbsup
Come on rat...we're dying to know which site it is? Well I am anyways.

[Motu]

Dunno why there's no bitching on the MX5 forum Lou,it's a girls car so I'd a thought they'd have their nails out - what colour do you prefer?

Us real guys on the Pajero forum just swap tales of bikes who dump when we pull out on them,bikes that didn't see the corner because of black smoke ,and a daily list of who made the biggest queue on the passing lanes.User names are on our spare wheel covers - I'm Tweety Bird,you might of seen me around,another guy is the Road Runner,and there is also one with Back Off on his.Give us a wave if you see us!

Seriously folks (who,me?!!) most of the forums I'm on are tech type forums(engineering) and what a bunch of touchy pricks they are,you can't critisise anyone,but if you post an incorrect statment they are on you like a ton of bricks.I hardly post on them,just use the imformation.

I like the ADVrider forums,they give each other hell but suport and give good info too,and I'm happy to see this forum coming along this way as well.Kiwi's have an excelent scense of humour and love to poke fun at each other - hard for it to come out electronicly,but we are all getting better.

[Jackrat]

Come on rat...we're dying to know which site it is? Well I am anyways.

It's an American hunting site.
Don't ever question their bill of rights when it comes to fire arms.
Don't ever question their military actions.
Don't ever tell them anything is better in any place other then America.
And don't EVER tell George Bush jokes.
As I was told,This Guy was going to come to NZ,track me down,rip my arm off an beat me to death with it.
I gave him my address,He didn't laugh :no:

[Zed]

It's an American hunting site.
Don't ever question their bill of rights when it comes to fire arms.
Don't ever question their military actions.
Don't ever tell them anything is better in any place other then America.
And don't EVER tell George Bush jokes.
As I was told,This Guy was going to come to NZ,track me down,rip my arm off an beat me to death with it.
I gave him my address,He didn't laugh :no:
So it's hunting and not Militia?

[Two Smoker]

Definately sounds like Militia too me.......

Wouldn't trust those bastards as far as i could throw them

But then America is renouned for saying "OH we are so great, god bless America.."

But they hav some of the biggest debts in the world and some of the worst crine in the world

And worst of all.......... they hav george bush:eek:

[Wonko]

It's simple, there's everything from computer geeks to truckies to chef's ridding bikes. just like arseholes, all of us have an opinion, and a lot conflict. At the end of the day, we all get on two wheels and ride off into the sunset. I'm on a couple of music/scene forum's and there is a lot of different opinions, but if you say one thing about the core bands that's against the public docturn, you soon know about it.

[Lou Girardin]

It's a known fact that red MX's are fastest. I can't say I saw any posts about hair care or the best place to get your nails done. And there were a couple of surprised bikers through the twisty's when I had the car.
BTW, Motu. When are you going to paint little bikes on the door of the Wank, err sorry, Pajero. Like the fighter pilots do.
Lou

[Motu]

I'm in a bit of a quandary over that - like can I use previous ''kills'' or do they only apply to this vehicle.I'd hate to loose my previous best score.

Of all the vehicles I get to drive every day the MX5 always leaves me impressed,it's like it was built for me alone,closest thing to a 4 wheel motorcycle to me.

[Marmoot]

I'm in Celica forum and Supra forum.....and RC Helicopter and Fishtank forums as well while we're at it..... :D
Celica cagers mostly are teenagers and talk about this bodykit that bodykit.
Supra owners are mostly rich yankee bastards and talk about turbo this and turbo that and engine blowups.
RC Helicopter forums mostly talk about training and how to do this and that....face it, flying those damn thing is difficult and expensive. They repeat the trivial how-to about more than hundred times I think.
Fishtank owners are (uhm....excuse me) mostly middle aged family guys and talk about their own experience.....huge amount of ego here and there :)
And never I have seen a forum that has much apathy and criticism on the government as Kiwibikers :yes: Dare to be Different!!! :)

P.S.
But I never been on Honda cage forum :bleh:

[SPman]

I'm in a bit of a quandary over that - like can I use previous ''kills'' or do they only apply to this vehicle.I'd hate to loose my previous best score.

You can put up your accumulated score.
Fighter pilots with big scores tended to get through a lot of planes!
(how many Wank- Pajeros have you got?) :rolleyes:

[Milky]

It's a known fact that red MX's are fastest. I can't say I saw any posts about hair care or the best place to get your nails done. And there were a couple of surprised bikers through the twisty's when I had the car.
BTW, Motu. When are you going to paint little bikes on the door of the Wank, err sorry, Pajero. Like the fighter pilots do.
Lou


Me olds have just done the same thing, buying a near new mx5 to replace their bikes, cos they say they are getting too old for motorcycling (65 and 58ish i think they are)

As far as i can tell they say exaclty the same thing and are really enjoying the car as a 4 wheel motorcycle :)

~milky

[Motu]

You can put up your accumulated score.
Fighter pilots with big scores tended to get through a lot of planes!
(how many Wank- Pajeros have you got?) :rolleyes:

Thanks - I'd better use the 4 door then eh.

[Coldkiwi]

It's an American hunting site.
Don't ever question their bill of rights when it comes to fire arms.
Don't ever question their military actions.
Don't ever tell them anything is better in any place other then America.
And don't EVER tell George Bush jokes.
As I was told,This Guy was going to come to NZ,track me down,rip my arm off an beat me to death with it.
I gave him my address,He didn't laugh :no:

oh, those sort of people are great to wind up (with a new user name of course). My list of choice lines would be
a) hey, you got a purty mouth
b) ya know what? I heard the other day that Charlton Heston was a bit -well-... you know Richard Simmons?
c) Man, how unconstitutional is that damn Dubya guy getting all cock-a-hoop on that aircraft carrier when he's a Nam draft dodger? (guaranteed to spark a riot) :blah:

[merv]

I think the guts is this site started in NZ with mainly Kiwis, though a few foreigners have signed up since, and we don't have the same intense "better than you mean arse without a sense of humour" attitude that a lot of Yanks seem stuck with.

[Hitcher]

Americans are xenophobes. They just expect you to agree with them. God, guns, gallows and gays -- the four sure ways to get a rise out of a Yank...

[Lou Girardin]

Of all the vehicles I get to drive every day the MX5 always leaves me impressed,it's like it was built for me alone,closest thing to a 4 wheel motorcycle to me.

True, but once I bought the bike, the car just didn't do it for me anymore. So, bye bye car.
Lou

[Coldkiwi]

yeah.. some cars come close (Lotus elise, Chaterham 7's... some other small rocket sled out of the Uk I can't recall) but boy, you have to shell out for them!
now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to ride home on a bike that I can just afford but safe in the knowledge that I am suitably equipped to damage any car drivers ego along the way and enjoy myself wholeheartedly doing so! cheerio!

[Motoracer]

I like both worlds along with aircrafts, watercrafts etc although I am now more of a biker than anything else. The other forums I have been to were pretty shit. I came to know about this site through KK and liked it very much. I'd prolly join with a cage forum if I had a decent one to blab about. Who knows, I might even join a Cessna owners forum oneday...

[Coldkiwi]

now if you'll excuse me, i'm going to ride home on a bike that I can just afford but safe in the knowledge that I am suitably equipped to damage any car drivers ego along the way and enjoy myself wholeheartedly doing so! cheerio!

Yes Baldrick, thats a very cunning plan but I think I see one TINY problem.
What if it pisses down?

(my sodding gear is soaked now!) :angry2:

[MrMelon]

Well what do you expect when all the other guys on the list are hairdressers?! :P

[dangerous]

The thing that I have noticed with the forums that I use: Moto guzzi-Aussie
Moto guzzi-Yank
VTR 1000 -UK
Is that the Aussie's are bloody hard doer's great sence of hummer that only them and us can understand as the pom's & Yanks seem to be a bit serious The pom's are into tricking up and frezzing there nuts off, speed over comfort
And the Yanks..... well thats been mentioned above However I have to say that Guzzi people are a bit different More relaxed I think even in the states more mechanicly minded and give each other a hard time. And the yanks do somthing a bit weird to.....they name there bikes with girly names.

So lets fling a bit more shit at each other abuse the cops (except those regested here) oh stuff it them to, Laugh at the HD riders (and scooters just kidding DebK)
pay a few more fines and go for a ride.

Ps: No Guzzi farm jokes please ;)

[What?]

[b][color=darkgreen]This site is special because of the people who contribute. Nothing more and nothing less.


Zed
Aw, shucks!!! That's SO nice... :hug:
You are right, though, Zed. There are some good people hanging around here. Don't necessarily agree with each other, but wouldn't life be boring if we did?

[MikeL]

I regularly browse a couple of specialist bike forums, one based in U.K., the other in U.S., and occasionally an Aussie one. On the British forum the posts are often aggressive, laddish, ego-driven and full of flaming. They're also fun to read. On the Yank forum there is courtesy and an exaggerated concern for respecting others - no flaming tolerated. Irony is rare and when it occurs often provokes puzzled responses. The Aussie forum is all irony in that typically undercutting way that makes you wonder whether they can ever take anyone or anything seriously. The Americans in general have only the vaguest idea that the rest of the world exists. The Brits know that there is reasonably civilized life on the other side of the Channel and even across the Atlantic but now hardly ever think of the Antipodes, if they ever did. Ockers conceal their inferiority complex and cultural cringe with wickedly accurate put-downs of others in general and NZers in particular.
It's all great fun.

[dangerous]

MikeL You said it a bit better than what I did, I agree. I guess its all in our up bringing.

[spudchucka]

I think that bikers in general are more out spoken, out going people. The fact that they choose to ride bikes speaks volumes - not just anyone is interested or even capable of jumping on a bike and blasting of down the road.

Pretty much everyone these days has a car or can drive one, bikes are becoming less common and only people who enjoy being somewhat on the edge would gravitate towards M/C riding. I think that's why the bike forums are full of interseting banter.

[Jackrat]

LOL,On the edge,yep thats me,Luckily when I fall off I mostly land on my face so no harm done.
But it is odd the amount of hard men out there that won't get on a bike cause
it's To dangerous.
Pussys!! :laugh:

[franco]

I think kiwi bikers are very opinionated, laid back, helpful, friendly and mostly open minded - this forum is a reflection of that.

Me myself - Im on a car forum, and two other bike forums.

The car forum is Toyota Altezza/ Lexus IS200 - I have an Altezza - MX5's are cool, but I like my Tezz - she's a beaut. The board is kiwi driven, tho there are several Aussies and Asians who contribute. They stick to the topic, but I guess that's why I joined their forum. I get heaps of honest feedback about car parts, performance, nuances etc. They are reasonably sociable too, have meets and stuff. I've even bought a few parts through them. Sweet.

The bike forums are SV650.ORG and SV1000. SV650 is a UK driven site. Friendly enough,though into their tricking up and riding crazy styles, complaining when their bikes don't get to 100mph in xx seconds etc. Still useful. The other bike site is Spankme's SV1000 site. Full of very serious americans and poms, thankfully lightened up by some kiwi and aussie contributors. The yanks really like the candid style in which we converse, tho I suspect KB will be a bit much even for them.

Of all these forums, Kiwibiker is definately the most entertaining...:eyepoke:

[jrandom]

On the British forum the posts are often aggressive, laddish, ego-driven and full of flaming. They're also fun to read.

Heh. Quite. It's the whole British repressed self-loathing thing. I've been lurking in uk.rec.motorcycles on USENET since, oh, 2001 or so. Great fun. Good place to learn the Tao of Flaming and why the CG125 is the Greatest Motorcycle Ever.



On the Yank forum there is courtesy and an exaggerated concern for respecting others - no flaming tolerated. Irony is rare and when it occurs often provokes puzzled responses.

'scoz merkins are dumb, innit? Plenty of exceptions of course but they all seem to be infected with this wide-eyed cultural naivety and childlike inability to grasp subtlety. Americans generally annoy me in person but I don't have it in me to be mean to them, it's like shooting fish in a barrel.



The Aussie forum is all irony in that typically undercutting way that makes you wonder whether they can ever take anyone or anything seriously.

Never take on an Aussie in a real-world slanging match.