VTR1000 Speed limited?

[Grizz]

I own a '97 VTR1000, and I have been told that as the speedo only shows a maximum of 180km/h that this model would be speed limited.

I did a bit of checking and while I can't find a lot out on the net there is a couple of references that confirms what I have been told.

I have no problem with this as I tootle around the streets etc, but if I was to take the bike out on a track day for example, the speed limiter would be a pain in the arse.

So.....

My questions are

1. Without disconnecting the speedo, is there a simple fix to this, ie electronic chippy thing, or can I buy an unlimited speedo?

and

2. I have only had the bike for 4 months, should the bike shop (names withheld to protect the possibly guilty) informed me that BTW the bike has a limter on it etc etc?

[cowboyz]

why not find a desertted stretch of road/track and find out for sure. It wouldn't take long to see if the bike could do more than 180k. If it is just the speedo that stops at 180k rather than the bike then why care?

[Grizz]

why not find a desertted stretch of road/track and find out for sure. It wouldn't take long to see if the bike could do more than 180k. If it is just the speedo that stops at 180k rather than the bike then why care?

Before I posted this I wondered what the 1st response would be, I wasn't dissapointed. Lets just say that I did think about that....:whistle:

[Devil]

Before I posted this I wondered what the 1st response would be, I wasn't dissapointed. Lets just say that I did think about that....:whistle:
Any decent motorway onramp is long enough to find out and be back at 100km/h to join the traffic ;)

Not that i'd know that, of course.

[Hoon]

Otherwise a legal alternative would be to put the rear on a stand and rev it out in 6th.

[onearmedbandit]

Hmmm, I'm not 100% sure that full disclosure is required on vehicle sales. If the dealer was aware (and there is a slight chance they weren't) then morally they should have informed you. If you told them your intention was to ride occassionally on the track at speeds above 180 and they didn't inform you, then maybe you have recourse as the vehicle isn't currently fit for its intended purpose. Grey area...

[Macktheknife]

I would just go give it a spin on a suitable piece of road myself, have someone with you as a pacer would be smart too. I am sure you could find someone on this site who would be willing to help out.. lol

[Grizz]

I would just go give it a spin on a suitable piece of road myself, have someone with you as a pacer would be smart too. I am sure you could find someone on this site who would be willing to help out.. lol

Ok for arguments sake, lets just assume that it IS limited, if ya know what I mean.

[cowboyz]

Otherwise a legal alternative would be to put the rear on a stand and rev it out in 6th.


If you do this then make sure you tape it. Just in case the stand is not *really* secure.

Would make a good video.

[cowboyz]

Ok for arguments sake, lets just assume that it IS limited, if ya know what I mean.


I get that "new bike syndrome" so it is hard for me to believe that youo have owned it for 4 months and still dont know.

If it is limited then there is nothing you can get the bike shop to do about it unless you specaifically (sp?) brought the bike for the track. And even then it would be hard to argue after 4 months have passed.

If it is restricted then I have no doubt there is a way around it. Cost will be the only obsticile. (sp again??)

[Mattyc]

I would just go give it a spin on a suitable piece of road myself, have someone with you as a pacer would be smart too. I am sure you could find someone on this site who would be willing to help out.. lol

ill help ya out, i leave work at 7:30 from the viaduct in town. the motorway is long and flat :) :lol: :lol: :lol:

[dangerous]

I own a '97 VTR1000, and I have been told that as the speedo only shows a maximum of 180km/h that this model would be speed limited.


1. Without disconnecting the speedo, is there a simple fix to this, ie electronic chippy thing, or can I buy an unlimited speedo?
Well thats what ya get for buying a import, now with some suzuki's you can get a diod type thing that fools the gear box into thinking its not doing the speed that it is.... so ask at ya Honda shop.

Ps: awesome choice of wheels.

[Teflon]

I own a '97 VTR1000, and I have been told that as the speedo only shows a maximum of 180km/h that this model would be speed limited.


My mate has a 98 import with the 180k speedo. his vtr isn't speed limited, but is restricted through exhaust or intakes.

[dangerous]

My mate has a 98 import with the 180k speedo. his vtr isn't speed limited, but is restricted through exhaust or intakes.
Ahhhh easy fix then.... :msn-wink:

[Teflon]

Ahhhh easy fix then.... :msn-wink:

Yea.

Ground clearance is his main problem with the VTR, i'm sure he will have no foot pegs left soon.

[cowpoos]

its a honda :doh: ...it probally won't even go that fast...

[Grizz]

Well thats what ya get for buying a import, now with some suzuki's you can get a diod type thing that fools the gear box into thinking its not doing the speed that it is.... so ask at ya Honda shop.

Ps: awesome choice of wheels.

Yeah you are right, it is an import, which may have something to do with it. This must be common in Japan, and it looks like it applies to cars as well.


Ps: awesome choice of wheels. :blip: :2thumbsup

[riffer]

Hmmm. My speedo goes up to 300 km/hr.

I wonder if ... :lol:

[SPman]

Probably not limited.
My FZR 750 had a 180 k speedo, but the needle would go about 60 - 70mm past that -or so - on a track - in ideal conditions - etc..

[Grizz]

Probably not limited.
My FZR 750 had a 180 k speedo, but the needle would go about 60 - 70mm past that -or so - on a track - in ideal conditions - etc..

Thanks, but I have it on REALLY good authority it is limited, so the question now is how to deal with it, perhaps I should ring the local Honda dealer, it would be a shame to take it on a trackday only to find this out.

[dangerous]

Ps: awesome choice of wheels.

:blip: :2thumbsup
And... your other bike is a 125T bucket, you do know ya shit aye :2thumbsup

I would be suprised if the bike was restricted speed wise, defnetly will be performance wise... you will be amazed what you can get out of the Storm... heres a startring point for ya http://www.dynobike.com/vtr1000_tips.htm
Ask the question re:speed restriction on theses forums, the UK site has a few US members.

http://www.vtr1000.co.uk/menu.htm
http://ozfirestorm.proboards34.com/

[Sniper]

its a honda :doh: ...it probally won't even go that fast...

Argh, the gixxer curse is settleing opon you. Honda's are not bad bikes. :chase:

[Mattyc]

Hmmm. My speedo goes up to 300 km/hr.

I wonder if ... :lol:

So does my zx9r, but alas it wont do 300, Its an import tho so i wonder if its restricted, it could do with another 30hp or so

[Lou Girardin]

The 180 km/h speedos are a Jap market requirement. Unlike cars, I don't think any bikes are limited to 180. (may be wrong)

[Silage]

The 180 km/h speedos are a Jap market requirement. Unlike cars, I don't think any bikes are limited to 180. (may be wrong)

The GS1200ss has a (digital) speedo that reads up to 180km/h. It is also speed limited to (I believe) 180. With the speed limitation removed, the speedo reaches 180 but the revs continue to rise (well would if anyone tried it :whistle: ). It also has a rev limiter that cuts in at around 9500rpm.

These bikes are sooo limited.

[Grizz]

I did some ringing around and this is what I have found out.

Firstly the bike is speed limited to 180k, this is a Jap safety standad, some imports are limeted some arn't, so if buying an import, AND this is of a concern ie getting some speed up on a track day for example, then asking the question would be prudent.

Blue Wing Honda, advise that it has something to do with the ECU, but can't say for sure as Honda Japan won't disclose how to disable this safety feature.

the response from two dealers service depts are:

1. There may be a device known asa derestrictor that may be sourced, they used to sell them but haven't for a while, and there advise was to perhaps check on the net.

2. The other said it needs a new CDI, something needs to be done to the carrbs and a whole lot of other techo stuff, but basically in a nutshell it goes in the too hard basket.

So there you go, you never stop learning, I still love the bike but damn it would have been fun realise its full potential. NVM at least it sounds like it can go a zillion miles an hour :2thumbsup