Online personas

[Motu]

This talking on the internet stuff is facless - and some people are not as they seem....some may be boosting their selfimportence,some maybe hiding something of themselves they don't want us to know - so who are we really? is the person you meet the one you thought you were going to see?

Motu is not who you will find if you are lucky enough to see me in person - in real life I am shy and retiring,a quiet guy who thinks that he who talks least learns most.I have been involved in bikes for many years now,I've met a lot of people,some are well known,I've listened in to important conversations - but they don't know me from a bar of soap,my name means nothing,my face less (I hope) I am a slow thinker,but conversations move quickly - by the time I've thought up a responce,they have moved on.I don't like to argue in public,I'm slow witted and can't put up a good case,so sometimes it appears I agree with their view,but I'm just trying to get out of interacting.

So who is Motu? - he is how I think,but not act - not the real me...but part of me,not made up...but built from my experiances,layers of different opinions,some conflicting,but all fitting together.This internet thing allows me to think of a reply,bring back a quote from a few days ago I want to coment on,do some research...um,check spelling,write some scathing nasty reply,then delete it.

These forums allow me to get my thoughts out,something normaly reserved for me alone - my thinking is sarcastic,witty,scathing and always on the otherside...I think every story has another view and will often take an opposing side just to present their case - I may not believe in it,but it needs to be presented to balance the point of view.

You may get to see me - but maybe not Motu....if I call you a wanker to your face and suggest if your gunna ride a girls bike why not paint it pink...then you may have just caught a glimps.

[SPman]

The net is good for letting you marshal and arrange your thoughts - if you want to!
And it's fun, trying to picture the person on the other end of a net persona.
Meeting them, can be a real let down.............or not.
All part of lifes rich tapestry.

[LB]

Motu: make sure you introduce yourself to me at Pukemanu - or you can let me try to guess who you are if you like, but you must 'fess up over dinner if I haven't guessed correctly by then!

Lynda

[Jackrat]

The net persona thing is interesting and as you say Motu only a small glimpse
of the real person.It's a bit hard to fit 30-40 or more years into something like this.Most of the opinions posted are only today,some times having very little to do with what one thought or felt in another time.
I guess some people create a personality that does not exsist in the real world but all in all I think most of the people on this site are just presenting a slightly louder version of themselfs.Anyway mate you were pretty much what I exspected when I met you.
And now I have to go west an pick up another bloody horse.
Cheers.

[erik]

Neat post. I definately find it way easier to take part in discussions online than in real life. I'm another quiet person.
I just wonder what the "real person" is though. The face we present to people in real life meetings is another persona as well, as is the one we present to people close to us, or how we act when we're all alone.

[franco]

I must be boring :eek:


- what you get online is what you get offline with me bro. Which admittedly ain't much as I tend to read much much more (with amusement) than I post.

cher cher, Franco

[Hitcher]

And in real life, as online, Hitcher is a pathological chatter who enjoys a bit of banter and horseplay...

[MikeL]

Thank God for computers and the Internet, which allow us to be whatever we want. We can create a persona, an identity and fulfill all our fantasies. We can be handsome, witty, young, sociable and irresistibly sexy.
Who would have thought that in real life I'm a miserable old curmudgeon with absolutely no sense of humour?
:bleh:

[FzerozeroT]

I did this subject for a presentation last year as I thought the same. I guess it is what a LOT of us who are on this site do online, and in real life. How many other people have a mirror/black visor so you can be a faceless badass on a motorbike?

[James Deuce]

I did this subject for a presentation last year as I thought the same. I guess it is what a LOT of us who are on this site do online, and in real life. How many other people have a mirror/black visor so you can be a faceless badass on a motorbike?

I did one too. I really hate Internet Tough-Guys. You know, "I can bench press 300 kilo and if we meet I'll kick your ass!" They are invariably 12 years old, weigh about 45 kilo and burst into tears when you introduce yourself.

I wear a flip up helmet with a clear visor, so I can pick my nose at will whilst riding. Only thing I prefer in driving a car to riding a bike is you can sometimes aim the booger from a car. It just gets whipped off your finger by the wind when riding. I use a clear visor because I like to do "Foggy" eyes at people when they piss me off.

[Motoracer]

I would like to think that I am pretty similar ITR (in the real) when compaired to online. I however do not use some of the kiwi slangs ITR that I use here online as I don't think I can get away with some of it with my accent.


How many other people have a mirror/black visor so you can be a faceless badass on a motorbike?

Yup, thats me! lol

[ching_ching]

I'm an idiot. :wacko:

Moreso in the flesh... Aaaaahhhhhhh, the truth has set me free.

[SPman]

Who would have thought that in real life I'm a miserable old curmudgeon with absolutely no sense of humour?:bleh:
I thought we all did.....:laugh:

[merv]

No secrets here, that's why I just use my real name on-line.

Motu if you've been on all the other Adventure rides in the Southern North Island I've probably met you already (I missed the original 1991 Pukemanu but have done them all since then) and I know that you know 4skins who I've known since he did the first Capital Coast though I had heard of him before that. I see him at times for lunch with Lynda where all us quiet types (yeah right!!) get together.

I'm a dedicated biker but many would say I am a part timer, that's because I spread my time around a lot. I ride when I feel like riding and do other stuff when I feel like doing that instead. I'm into the fun and never like to overdo anything or else I would get sick of it. When I competed I never liked practicing.

[duckman]

There do seem to be a few people on this site that have very informed opinions/ideas, and that tends to make me stay out of some of the more "technical" discussions for fear of saying something especially stupid.

But, all in all, I'd say that I talk and behave in the same manner that I would if I was talking face to face. I don't believe in being rude or obnoctous (sp)
just because your on the net.

Saying that... I still wear a tinted visor!! :whistle:

[Holy Roller]

- so who are we really? is the person you meet the one you thought you were going to see?
The atavar is really me. Friends have for 24 years been trying to see the real me, that is clean shaven. Though I have nothing to hide just dont like the shaving rash....
What you see is what you get with me. I give an honest opinion and make no bones about my faith or views. Likewise I can accept others for who they are. If one wants to dialogue I try my best to address the issues not the person. Everyone is created special in God's eyes. How many others have come to realise that not everything is black and white?
As quoted by Motu "so who are we really?...." Only time will show who we really are, what sort of person we are that lies behind this computer screen.
Anyway have a great day and look out for me at the Cambridge Toy Run... Black XV, White open face helmet, and of course my black beard that is not so black these days.
Gordon
Holy Roller

[wari]

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I wear a flip up helmet with a clear visor, so I can pick my nose at will whilst riding. Only thing I prefer in driving a car to riding a bike is you can sometimes aim the booger from a car. It just gets whipped off your finger by the wind when riding. I use a clear visor because I like to do "Foggy" eyes at people when they piss me off.

Jim2 ... you either have small fingers or veeeerrrrrry BIG nostrils :moon:

or maybe dont own gloves ... :spudwhat:

[bungbung]

He has BIIIIIIIG nostrils, and picking enhanced fingerless gloves

[Ms Piggy]

Neat post. I definately find it way easier to take part in discussions online than in real life. I'm another quiet person.
I just wonder what the "real person" is though. The face we present to people in real life meetings is another persona as well, as is the one we present to people close to us, or how we act when we're all alone.

A great post Motu :niceone:

I am online who I am in real life, well I hope so! Those of you who have met me correct me if I'm wrong please! I think for shy people maybe the net is a good place for them to get a chance to say how they feel, instead of being shouted down by the more articulate or quick thinking. I like the net b/c I'm quite a social person & like the chance to speak to people from other parts of N.Z and sometimes overseas.

Of course in saying that I agree with Erik too - we are all slightly different in different situations, the way I'd speak with my 80+ Grandmother would be quite different to the way I'd speak with my Uni mates or sister and Motu you may be surprised that others may in fact meet you & recognise you for who you actually are...did that make sense?

Everyone I have met off KB's has been who I thought they'd be or maybe I've met them with an open mind, I've learnt building up preconceived notions of people is stoopid.

Makes ya think aye! :wacko: My brain hurts!

[James Deuce]

He has BIIIIIIIG nostrils, and picking enhanced fingerless gloves

And long narrow fingers :)

[ching_ching]

I wear a flip up helmet with a clear visor, so I can pick my nose at will whilst riding...

You are the epitome of cool.:rockon:

[Ms Piggy]

I'm an idiot. :wacko:

Moreso in the flesh... Aaaaahhhhhhh, the truth has set me free.

:shit: You must have been behaving when I met you then Ching!???

[wkid_one]

:msn-wink: :msn-wink: I find the internet useful as I can be more retiring and introspective than I usually would be in actuality.:msn-wink: :msn-wink:

[DebK]

Love the thread Motu. Great responses also. Jim2, as usual you are very entertaining :D

I'm new to 2 wheels, though did have a wee Honda 100S (edited from Suzuki, doh!)) trail bike at High School (farrrrm girrrrl). Came in here to observe & learn. Been suckered into defensive mode a few times but that's how I am sometimes away from my laptop - reactive. Even yelled at a tin top today... idiot was riding his clutch at the lights at the top of The Terrace and started rolling back on me. Then stopped with no signal in the middle of the road after turning right at the lights. So today I had no patience. Was so p*ssed off that I worked too hard at the gym and almost puked.

I think the majority of us in here are almost as we are in the "real" World.

[Zed]

...How many other people have a mirror/black visor so you can be a faceless badass on a motorbike?
Hey, I just purchased a tinted visor! I no longer have to wear my sunnys and deal with the hassles invloved with taking them on and off & cleaning them, etc. The black visor is awesome actually, especially when I hit sunstrike on my way to and from work! :eek:

What 'real' biker buys a mirror/black visor to make a fashion statement anyway??? They ARE practical!


Zed

[Zed]

:shit: You must have been behaving when I met you then Ching!???
Hehe, I dare say that 'the ching' changes somewhat in the presence of a woman!! :buggerd:

[Zed]

I very much enjoy my online personas!

Zed is me & I am Zed, even though I created Zed specially for KiwiBiker!
"Roses are red and violets are blue, I'm a schizophrenic and so am I !" :buggerd:


Personal rules I stick to when conversing on the net:

Be myself!
Be honest but not too honest.
Enjoy debate but stay away from argument (whenever possible?)
Never talk to strangers! (try to include some humor)
Zed enables me to express & discuss my fascination for motorcycles with others who have the knowledge of the 2-wheeled thrill...but within Zed is a person who is fascinated by something much higher than mere man-made machines!


Zed

[Hitcher]

I wear a flip up helmet with a clear visor, so I can pick my nose at will whilst riding.

I have a mental picture of a gloved finger endeavouring to dive up a nostril with slim hope of success -- I don't recall your nostrils being unduly cavernous, your nose excessively pliable or the Spidi "booger picker" being fitted to your gloves...

You'll have to demonstrate this magnificent dexterity at some stage...

[ching_ching]

:shit: You must have been behaving when I met you then Ching!???

Always behave in the presence of a lady.:2thumbsup

[ching_ching]

Hehe, I dare say that 'the ching' changes somewhat in the presence of a woman!! :buggerd:

Yeh, gotta admit the crazy side is somewhat closet behaviour - only comes out when behind a computer screen, when the shit hits the fan at work and when I stride my sickle... sometimes.:wacko:

[ching_ching]

What 'real' biker buys a mirror/black visor to make a fashion statement anyway??? They ARE practical!

Damn right Zed! Especially when cruising the lake front in Taupo during summer, you can perve hardazz at all the beautiful women when the place is going off...
(mental note: save up for tinted visor by Christmas 2004):2thumbsup

[Zed]

Damn right Zed! Especially when cruising the lake front in Taupo during summer, you can perve hardazz at all the beautiful women when the place is going off...
Just keep your eyes on the road dude!

[Motu]

Thanks for the replys - I'm happy to see so many who are real on the net and life.I think talking on the net has been tainted by the stories of 14 or 84 yr olds being someone they are not.On a common interest board like this I don't think it could happen - but we'll keep a watch out eh?

You are right erik,and it never occoured to me - I am different to everyone I meet...we adjust ourselves to every situation - I may try to chat up a cute blonde,but wouldn't use the same approach to a gang member!

So all the different me's are just facets of the complex being I am - and here's me thinking I was a simpleton.Meeting Jackrat held no surprises for me,I had none for him,so as others say,the personality comes out anyway....if we have one that is!

[Ms Piggy]

Always behave in the presence of a lady.:2thumbsup

Right answer! :D

[SPman]

I may try to chat up a cute blonde,but wouldn't use the same approach to a gang member!

Not even if they're a cute blonde? Awww.

[georgedubyabush]

that avatar is brutal spman. Oh, and I'm really a Russian Trawler Captain.

[merv]

As for tinted visors I normally swap to a tinted visor for summer but the last two bloody summers I haven't bothered because on average the days have been dull too often so I've left the clear visor on my helmet.

[SPman]

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Hey Motu - you made it to Google
Whilst trawling for some Zappa stuff .............

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[LB]

Always behave in the presence of a lady.:2thumbsup
So how come you behaved in my presence??!! ;)

[LB]

I may try to chat up a cute blonde!

I can't wait for Pukemanu....I presume you have me in mind? ;)

[LB]

An interesting thread you started here Motu.

When I joined the site, I called myself my real name as I didn't really know what the site was about, and didn't post for a few months.

In hindsight, I would have still called myself my real name, as I (climbing onto the high moral ground here) would like to think that I wouldn't say anything to/about anyone anonomously that I wouldn't say to their face.

The philosophy I try my best to live by (I am only human, after all) is to live and let live, and to never knowingly do anything to harm/hurt anyone. I am pretty much a "what you get is what you see" person, I know that some people don't like my style, but that's fine. Sometimes I speak before I think, and that has gotten me in the crap a few times, but I'm getting better at keeping foot-out-of-mouth as I'm getting older. I am who I am, the way I am, and if people can't handle me then that's their prerogative and that's fine with me. (Steps back onto lower ground.)

I have found with the KB'ers that I either already knew, or have since met, that on the site they are the same as how I know them in real life, or who I expected them to be. (Not sure if that really makes sense....)

Some really good thoughtful comments on this thread. Thanks for starting it Motu.

[Lou Girardin]

Contrary to what you might think; I'm God-fearing, ACT voting, Police supporting, Treaty waving, tree hugging, car driver and I'm REALLY confused.
Lou

[Motu]

:Offtopic: (http://www.kiwibiker.co.nz/forums/misc.php?do=getsmilies&wysiwyg=1#) :Offtopic:
Hey Motu - you made it to Google
Whilst trawling for some Zappa stuff .............

Wow,that's sumthin eh? I'm on google,how the hell?

Sites that make you use your real name,and in my case company name and address don't see much traffic - everyone is too scared to say anything,using a handle gives people an anominity and encourages discushion.I hate finding a name and am sticking to Motu for most internet identities now.Since I sold the Samara Ladatrouble is no longer appropriate.

[bondagebunny]

remains a flogging, beating, whipping, ball kicking, nipple clamping, lady for those who want to pay for it

[Zed]

remains a flogging, beating, whipping, ball kicking, nipple clamping, lady for those who want to pay for it
You pervert!

[Holy Roller]

You pervert!

Name calling has never been a way to win friends and influence people :no: :no:

[Jackrat]

Jack,My name.Rat my nick name from way back.
Love to argue, about anything, any time, any where,Will change my point of view to suit the arguement at hand.Don't care if I win or lose it's playing the game that counts.Don't take things personal, but can get personal if it works.
Am pro police,pro private gun ownership,don't like politicians of any flavour,Love my bike and my 4x4 and anything else with an engine.
Like hunting but dislike cruelty to animals.Don't like homos or civil libertarieians.Was rasied by the Govt' in between boncing from one family home to another.Have done jail time in NZ and have worked for the Australian
fedral police.Currently live in a caravan on family property at Waiuku, Owe nothing to anybody and own every thing I have free hold.Don't like credit institusions,belive in doing as much for myself as I can.Most of my own vehicule maintanance,raise my own meat,grow my own Veges,Keep chooks,goats,cats,dogs,fish,Horses,and a few free loaders.
Reload my own amo an keep a large supply in storage.
Belive in a higher power but don't belive in a christian god.
Have family links with north land Maori but am off side with most of them.
Life is about looking after my dauther and having fun.
Hope to die broke and a burdon on the state.

[Zed]

Name calling has never been a way to win friends and influence people :no: :no:Considering why I called her that name, I'm surprised to hear you defending her HR? I partly said it to influence people!

I call it when I see it- without apology my brother. :yes: :yes:

[Motu]

Shit Jack,we get more things in common as we go along! I'm trailer trash too, don't owe anyone and have swum upstream the whole bloody way - if they do it that way...then I do it this way.4 kids all born at home,none gone or going to school,don't eat meat or dairy products,I have my own beliefs and keep them to myself,they are mine ,not your's,I'll debate,but I won't argue - you won't convert me to your way,I won't talk you into mine.My family comes from the far north,strongly Irish,sometimes it shows.My name is spelt the Irish way,mostly it was changed to English,or Prodestant spelling,our family are the only ones spelt this way.On my mothers side is one of the oldest settler families in the country,the first pakeha child born in NZ is linked to this family,not directly in my line,just one of those many branches.Strangely on both sides is a Portugese who jumped ship,not the same one of course,maybe there were a lot of them.I don't know what the hell is going to happen in my life for the future - and frankly....I...don't....care.I live for the day,and enjoy them all.

I named one of my boys Jack,after my Grandmothers second husband,and because I never met a Jack I didn't like,an unusual name at the time,next thing ya know it's the most common name in the book!....Oh,at one job they used to call me the Ratcatcher on account of how I looked!

[bondagebunny]

a christian client who rides a bike and likes to be locked up in little cage and prodded with a sharp stick - could that be you by any chance.

those who pass judgementments like that are not usually lucid enuff to be able too -unless they are god freeks who seem to think their beliefs gives them a right which of course is not true.

In my experiance those who critise the most about what they dont understand are those who would most like the experiance.

Make an appointment - Im sure we can find something to please you - maybe being whipped with a cat o nine tails made from an old perelli tyre or wiring loom.

:devil2:

[Zed]

Make an appointment - Im sure we can find something to please you - maybe being whipped with a cat o nine tails made from an old perelli tyre or wiring loom.:devil2:
You may make a joke of your profession you pervert, but it's you and the other sex-worker scum out there that contribute towards the degredation of our society and a general breakdown of the family and the marriage union.

Btw I strongly suggest that you stay away from any Christian clientele, for God will bring judgement on you and your house for helping his children to fall by the wayside!

Your kind was executed in the old testament for practising such immoral, perverse acts as you claim to indulge in.

[bondagebunny]

you are the one who goes to see movies of torture and suffering.

I dont look for clients they seek me out - and if the big guy is gunna stike me down for my work there would not be many priests left on earth.

look at the suffering they cause by the twisted sick corruption of children
both male and female.

clean up your own church whatever it is before you condem others, more torture , corruption and suffering is done in the name of one god or another
than anything else.

but that dosent affect you does it zealot - because YOUR GOD is the right God. Well Zealot that is what the other guy is saying as well

[bondagebunny]

to ask Do you agree with ST Mel and believe the jews are to blame for Christs death.

:bash: Get it through your head you are being decieved by the great church conspiracy to get your money.

[Al]

Well, I'm the same ole me in person as I am online!
THE UMFAAN translated means the young boy (African), been in NZ for 2yrs from South Africa.
I believe in living in harmony with nature, people who have different beliefs than I do and do not have a problem with race, religion or education!

And, as everyone should know, bikers come from the same big famdamily anyways........ We are all whanau (spelling?)

Al :yes:

[Zed]

to ask Do you agree with ST Mel and believe the jews are to blame for Christs death.Let the Bible speak for itself:

Matthew 27:20 But the chief priests and elders persuaded the multitude that they should ask Barabbas, and destroy Jesus.
21 The governor answered and said unto them, Whether of the twain will ye that I release unto you? They said, Barabbas.
22 Pilate saith unto them, What shall I do then with Jesus which is called Christ? They all say unto him, Let him be crucified.
23 And the governor said, Why, what evil hath he done? But they cried out the more, saying, Let him be crucified.
24 When Pilate saw that he could prevail nothing, but that rather a tumult was made, he took water, and washed his hands before the multitude, saying, I am innocent of the blood of this just person: see ye to it.
25 Then answered all the people, and said, His blood be on us, and on our children.
26 ¶Then released he Barabbas unto them: and when he had scourged Jesus, he delivered him to be crucified.

Verse 25 was intentionally left out of the movie by Mel for obvious reasons.

But ultimately Holly Roller is right- we are all to blame for the death of Christ!

Now why am I reasoning with the Bunny?? :wacko:

[bondagebunny]

to justify your self to your self - no other reason at all I can see

[Jackrat]

You may make a joke of your profession you pervert, but it's you and the other sex-worker scum out there that contribute towards the degredation of our society and a general breakdown of the family and the marriage union.

Btw I strongly suggest that you stay away from any Christian clientele, for God will bring judgement on you and your house for helping his children to fall by the wayside!

Your kind was executed in the old testament for practising such immoral, perverse acts as you claim to indulge in.
Your wasting your time Zed,
Some people are not worth your effort, :no: let it go.

[Holy Roller]

to ask Do you agree with ST Mel and believe the jews are to blame for Christs death.

:bash: Get it through your head you are being decieved by the great church conspiracy to get your money.

NO I do not believe that the Jews are to blame for Christs death. What heresy is this.....
I thought you were a Christian....
Zealot....

The blame for Christs death lies squarely with us, our Book states that Jesus died for us to free us from our wrong doings and perversions (we paticipate in perversions because we are addicted to them, I was once a "pervert" "alcoholic", "suicidal") and enable to return to the relationship with God that was once but is possible through the death and resurection of His Son.
Why? Because we are created in the image of God.
And satan, the devil, whatever name one wishes to give him hates God and that image. The more he can pervert that image the more we become just another sick puppy unable to help ourselves.
Any way GTG
The guys will be waiting for me

[Zed]

Your wasting your time Zed,
Some people are not worth your effort, :no: let it go.
Already decided to!

[Zed]

NO I do not believe that the Jews are to blame for Christs death. What heresy is this.....
I thought you were a Christian....
Zealot....

The blame for Christs death lies squarely with us, our Book states that Jesus died for us to free us from our wrong doings and perversions (we paticipate in perversions because we are addicted to them, I was once a "pervert" "alcoholic", "suicidal") and enable to return to the relationship with God that was once but is possible through the death and resurection of His Son.
Why? Because we are created in the image of God and satan, the devil, whatever name one wishes to give him hates God and that image. The more he can pervert that image the more we become just another sick puppy unable to help ourselves.
Any way GTG
The guys will be waiting for meYou are correct HR! I've edited my previous post.

Zed

[bondagebunny]

to give excuse to his failings - People are reluctent in this day and age to take responsibility for themselves. It is always the government should, the maoris should not, somebody should do something, Ill sue MacDonalds because I ate their food.

BUt by far the worst are the zealots of all sides and creeds who claim to act for and on behalf of Gods of all types. For they can excuse or justify anything and everything on some "thing" which only they can see.

Stand up and be a man not a puppet.

[Zed]

God was invented by man to give excuse to his failings
Tell that to God when you meet Him your judgment- you will be a sorry individual then, well, even more sorrier than the individual you are now!

Hebrews 9:27 And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

[Ms Piggy]

You may make a joke of your profession you pervert, but it's you and the other sex-worker scum out there that contribute towards the degredation of our society and a general breakdown of the family and the marriage union.

Btw I strongly suggest that you stay away from any Christian clientele, for God will bring judgement on you and your house for helping his children to fall by the wayside!

Your kind was executed in the old testament for practising such immoral, perverse acts as you claim to indulge in.

And this Zed is prime example of part of the reason I stopped going to church & am not a christian anymore. :disapint: Too much narrow minded blatant hatred of those who are outside what the christian church believes.

Very dissapointing to see someone who is meant to be "full of the love of God" pointing a judgemental finger, name calling & speaking hell fire & brimstone down on another human being and then jusifying it though using bible verses. :Playnice:

[Lou Girardin]

Let those who are without sin, cast the first stone.
Lou

[Two Smoker]

How about we think about how many wars have been started because of religion???? I am a firm believer in people believing and having the right to belive in their belief (man that sounds weird) But i am also a firm believer that you should not impose beliefs on people that do not believe in your belief (Christians are renouned for it, just look at the Crusades, and Missionaries that go to colonies)

(No offence meant at any one who is religious)

[DebK]

I joined this forum to discuss bikes. While this particular thread was logged under "Off Topic" too often I feel that I'm being preached to. Getting more than a little sick of it and will probably ultimately turn me off coming in here.

I've belonged to a motorsport forum for a couple of years and can honestly say not once has religion entered into any threads.

I don't have any religion based beliefs. I just get on with enjoying my life, without being told how to live my life. That's not to say I live a dodgy lifestyle, far from it. I have to agree with Two Smoker (even if he sounds like the Aussie comedians interviewing Juan Pablo Montoya - Juan, one, won!).

[Motu]

So...how's the scooter do'in DebK? Those things intreege me....just love that wierd front end,but they are quite long in the wheelbase,does this help stabalise the bike? Scooters have small wheels and a short wheelbase,both are often blamed for the poor handling,I just wonder how they do in real life. (I like scooter handling,it's different,so I'm into it)

I used to go to that forum,but lost the URL when I changed computers.

[Two Smoker]

I have to agree with Two Smoker (even if he sounds like the Aussie comedians interviewing Juan Pablo Montoya - Juan, one, won!).
LOL i agree Deb did sound like that Aussie questioning, i even thought wat the hell am i writing????? will people understand it? But obviously someone did:)

Yay:rockon:

[dangerous]

but it's you and the other sex-worker scum out there that contribute towards the degredation of our society and a general breakdown of the family and the marriage union.[/b]

Be very cearfull what you say here Zed
calitc sea lilly's last post was very well said :niceone:

I have a very good friend who you Zed call 'scum' She may be a X junkie and a X whore going from the streets in ChCh to the top whore houses in Auckland.
You Zed do not know why she got court up in that life style, it is in my mind a very sad tail one that you will never understand one that I still have trouble understanding one that the avarage person would never think actually happens in real life.

This person is a very prowd mum a person that will walk on hot coles for her friends a person that if you were to meet not knowing any of her background would think of her as a lovely person a person that I have the up most respect for. So how dear you call her scum. :sneaky2:
I relise that you were just trying to make a point and dont worry you have not offended but I do hope that it has given you somthing to think about.

DebK: You are also correct in what you say 'you go girl' :msn-wink: I should stop posting in these political religious type threads and stick to the 'bike' related topics. It's just that sometimes................ :beer:

[Zed]

And this Zed is prime example of part of the reason I stopped going to church & am not a christian anymore. :disapint: Too much narrow minded blatant hatred of those who are outside what the christian church believes.

Very dissapointing to see someone who is meant to be "full of the love of God" pointing a judgemental finger, name calling & speaking hell fire & brimstone down on another human being and then jusifying it though using bible verses. :Playnice:
If you don't like what I say or believe Celtic then there are 2 real simple things you should do:

1. Add me to your ignore list (you will never be bothered by what I say again)

2. Don't read the threads about God.

I stayed away from your filthy joke thread so you should do the same with things that offend you!

Same goes with you DebK. I don't want you leaving KB because you are turned off by the "preaching"- just ignore me and don't read the threads with God in the title!


Amen, Zed :innocent:

[Motu]

Well,I started the thread,with no intention of politics or religion - although I'd be happy if someone spoke about their personality with a political or religious bent,but I'm not too happy to see it turning into a ''bad'' thread.I don't talk about religion and seldon on politics,neither interest me - I just like bikes...but they bring a lot of other stuff of our lives into it.

This preaching has gotta stop....or we will all wander off elsewhere.

[Ms Piggy]

If you don't like what I say or believe Celtic then there are 2 real simple things you should do:

1. Add me to your ignore list (you will never be bothered by what I say again)

2. Don't read the threads about God.

I stayed away from your filthy joke thread so you should do the same with things that offend you!

Same goes with you DebK. I don't want you leaving KB because you are turned off by the "preaching"- just ignore me and don't read the threads with God in the title!


Amen, Zed :innocent:

Hey Zed,
This wasn't a religious thread to start off with and I believe in this case you started the ball rolling by name calling, also I posted a caution on the dirty jokes thread so that others had the option of not reading if they didn't want to.

Anyway I think you & I can finish our discussion off the public threads so that others don't have to get offended by what either of us may post.

Cheers Cathy :niceone:

[boris]

well my name is Robin, i like riding bikes,i was born in England, i am on a invalids benefit because i have neurofibromitosis (NF)if there is a god :whocares: i don't but .each to his/her own.i don't drink, but like a good joint how and then.my spelling is bad and i like riding bikes. :niceone:

[Firefight]

And this Zed is prime example of part of the reason I stopped going to church & am not a christian anymore.

Very dissapointing to see someone who is meant to be "full of the love of God" pointing a judgemental finger, name calling & speaking hell fire & brimstone down on another human being and then jusifying it though using bible verses. :Playnice:



CSL Yet another good reason to put him on the ignore option.


Firefight

[ching_ching]

remains a flogging, beating, whipping, ball kicking, nipple clamping, lady for those who want to pay for it

ball kicking... damn that's gotta hurt!! :weep:

[White trash]

Great thread, Motu!

White trash is pretty much me, although I make my oppinions more public on-line than I do face to face.

And I am a 65kg, skinny, shaven headed, goatie faced weakling in real life. Hence, "White trash!" :Punk:

That been said, I have won every fight I've ever been in..............................





By at least 100 meters.

[Jackrat]

Just spent a pleasant few days crusing the South Waikato,visting folks an such.Managed to avoid a few of the more outspoken family members that I have never got on with,an in the process got to thinking about this subject and the site in general.I know a few people that have signed on and then seldom if ever take part in discussion ect.I now think Iv'e worked something out about those of us who do take part and keep things flowing,as opossed to those that don't.The one thing that stands out about a lot of us that use the site is that most of us consider ourselfs to be fairly quite in person.
On the other hand the guys I know that don't even like the site are all big mouths.One thing Iv'e been told by a guy that don't like us at all,is that he always gets talked down and would like to punch a few heads. :laugh:
Needless to say that guy is a total control freak and all round mummys boy.
So it seems to me that to take part in something like this, a new set of soical skills is reqiured,seems like the big mouth,violent,control freak types don't have a place here, because nobody gives a fuck how much they big note em' selfs.It don't work.So I guess that makes the rest of us the "nice guys".
Sounds good to me anyway.

[Marmoot]

I look better in real life.
Ask CK if you don't believe.
:mellow: <--- something like this.

[merv]

Interesting comment Jackrat. I guess without the face to face thing no one can look intimidating and controlling and they can only see what you write.

However, as an aside I know years back when we first got e-mail at work people seemed to get into also sorts of e-mail wars because they would over-react, read between the lines and stuff and send back ever more abusive replies usually copying them to damn near everyone in the address book. As the boss of some of these guys I'd have to step in and cool them down and say things like "pick up the phone and call him" because usually in proper one on one conversation a lot of the bullshit and misunderstandings would evaporate especially if people would use words like "OK I was just asking" and the big one "sorry I didn't mean it like that". Another simple rule was if an e-mail thread got up to five links (i.e. original note plus four replies) it was time to break it off and make the phone call.

As for me, well I'm a kind of quiet but talkative chap and I don't offend easily.

[jrandom]

Well, I wear a tinted visor, but only because I kept breaking sunglasses under my helmet while commuting. Riding into the sunrise and sunset, wrong way both ends of t'day. Ho hum. When one is astride a 150, 'looking like a badass' isn't quite on the benefit list.

In real life I'm probably even more inclined to silliness and sarcasm than I am online.

You probably all have a fairly accurate impression of me by now, though. I've never had the energy to make a fake persona online, can't understand why anyone bothers.

Hope to meet some more of y'all IRL at a rideout someday, too.

[marty]

well i'm pretty much on-line who i am off. i use a psuedo for my personal safety only. i usually jump into coversations without too much thought, but i've learnt to pick my battles a little better (had a wanky boss i couldn't trust). i don't profess to be a good rider, and bought the RS equally for it's stand-out value (yes pose value) as it's performance. probably why i find myself drawn to a 'busa as my next bike......, but i am drawn to expensive things - like 1. my wife, 2. all my pushbike (road and BMX) are top of the line carbon jobbies and 3. my cage is a little OTT for a runabout, but hey who cares? i like to let my actions do the talking - had a motto from multisporter cathy lynch, from when i was a multisport junkie (now i'm an ironman junkie) went:

words are words
talk is talk
excuses are excuses
performance is reality

there's no hiding on the track guys, your performance is there for all to see

[flynguzzi]

Ya, I am a regular lurker who only posts when I can add to the subject. The grass is always greener on the other side and you Kiwi riders have some neat places to ride to...I learn alot about other motorcycle cultures by visiting bulletin boards, you folks are top notch! It is great to see others enjoying what I have made my lifestyle for over 30 years......jb

[What?]

Buggered if I know... Firefight sounds like a guy who loves riding and gets out doing it everytime he can. On the other hand, in reality he is a guy who loves riding and gets out doing it everytime he can.
I would like to ride more, but I type faster. :bleh:

[pete376403]

This online stuff guves me a chance to participate in conversations that normally I'd miss - I'm really deaf so my circle of bike riding aquaintances is pretty small, less than half a dozen people who understand that I can be very difficult to converse with and who are prepared to make the extra effort.

Here I can "listen in" to any conversation and add my 2 cents worth. That is worth far more than most would understand.

In case anyone wonders about the userid, Pete is my name and the number is the employee number I had at IBM, and it just sort of stuck.

[FzerozeroT]

ok peteNum, i first thought birthday, but which planet has 37 daysand 64 months?

[LB]

yeah, I have to say I'd wondered too! All is now revealed.

[Holy Roller]

It's amazing how numbers rule our lives.
I still remember my navy number W23894 Though I usually only say it at ANZAC day roll call.

[James Deuce]

It's amazing how numbers rule our lives.
I still remember my navy number W23894 Though I usually only say it at ANZAC day roll call.

D1001469 - Army service no. I Was Civilian Personnel.

[pete376403]

I remember all sorts of useless crap from many years ago, but important stuff flies out the window. Could it be the onset of that brain thing where you forget stuff, can't remember what thats called
How about: School Certificate candidate number 047846, Army number 759118.. the licence plates of most of my dads cars.. Caterpillar part numbers for 3/8" UNC bolt (3B4516 . f*ck knows why THATS stuck!)

[jrandom]

AE2604, my first car. A white Valiant, just like in the Mutton Birds song. Wonder where it is now.

I can also rattle off all the powers of 2 up to 20 but that's pretty sad, really, and I probably wouldn't admit to it if this wasn't a faceless online forum.

[bungbung]

all the powers of 2 up to 20 but that's pretty sad

No, no. That's really impressive. I insist...

Any other (people) skills up your sleeve? :Pokey:

[jrandom]

Any other (people) skills up your sleeve?

Dunno about up my sleeve. Down my trousers, maybe.

[bungbung]

So it is true then

[jrandom]

So it is true then

Cryptic bastard, aren't you?

[bungbung]

Cryptic bastard, aren't you?

Actually, I prefer 'mysterious'

but thanks anyway.

[bungbung]

Slow day at work. Can you tell?

p'raps I'll make myself a new avatar

[SPman]

Down my trousers, maybe.
Not Broccolli?

[Skyryder]

I have never wondered who the person is behind the screen. It is an interesting thought though. Perhaps the reaosn why I have never gone down this particular road may have to do that most of my forum posts go to the USA and as such it is highly unlikely that I will ever meet these people. I must admit that the posters signature is usally a good indication of a little about the person behind the screen. I know that there is one here who is a 'long time' Pink Floyd fan. As for me I am just the average,if there is such a person, kiwi: paying off the mortgage, putting food in the family, etc. As for my signature I use a different one for each forum that I post on. Have not thought of a suitable one for here yet.

Skyryder..........well that says a little about me and I ride a Drake.

[Skyryder]

But ultimately Holly Roller is right- we are all to blame for the death of Christ!
This is where the Christians get it wrong. In an attempt to portray guilt for the crucifixion on humankind the Church manipulates the indavidual so they believe, that in order to gain everlasting life, man is born a sinner and only through repentance can he come to the gates of god. (My words) It is very easy to quote scripture to support your views. It is what Catholics do as do Protestants, Baptists, Angilicans, Bretheran, and the host of other Christian denominations. They quote scripture to support their views. And each of them have a different interpertation of the bible, as you yourself do. Zed I do not know if you have children but if you do and you believe that they have been born with sin and that they are also responsiable for the death of Christ then you do them a great disservice. If you do not have children then you are in no position to cast judgment on the unborn. It is akin to speaking ill of the dead and you are no better than those that you yourself critisize. The real problem of those that believe that they and only they hold the key to eternal salvation is that they do not know why God gave us two ears and only one tongue. When you can figure that one out let me know and I might take you a little more serious than at present.

Skyryder.

[Heather]

And I am Motu's alter ago when He wants to ride a girls bike. And yes, it's pink. :love:

[Ogri]

to give excuse to his failings - People are reluctent in this day and age to take responsibility for themselves. It is always the government should, the maoris should not, somebody should do something, Ill sue MacDonalds because I ate their food.

BUt by far the worst are the zealots of all sides and creeds who claim to act for and on behalf of Gods of all types. For they can excuse or justify anything and everything on some "thing" which only they can see.

Stand up and be a man not a puppet.



I AGREE - pisses me off too

[Motu]

And I am Motu's alter ago when He wants to ride a girls bike. And yes, it's pink. :love:

Sometimes I don't have a shit for days...I get dizzy spells and wake up to find my fingernails are looking nice..... :whistle:

[babyB]

hay KB's well i am who i am & like sometimes im in here a heap & othertimes i may not b around for weeks. sometimes i say a hole heap & other times very little. (i am quieter on here than in real life) i am a widow ( he took his own life) have 2 wonderful children , they are my light. life iw worth living & fool of endless posibilities. mericals do happen, i learnt to ride a bike twice. i love racing im not that good at it , but thats not the point. id sooner be in the shed than the house. dont like to argue, everything can be comprimised. everyone has a right to their own opinion, but how you take it is up to you. too inderpendent for my own good & cant spell for shit. one day u might meet me , so decide for yourself then :wavey: (im movin house gettin closer to puke track :2thumbsup )

[dangerous]

babyB Your 1yr younger than me and been though a shit load more than me theres only one thing to say 'GOOD ON YA' :niceone: :rockon:

As for me well...... I'm me, dont realy know how to explain that one those that know me would do a better job at that. As for my user name it dates back to my riding and 4x4 style but I have to say (touch wood) I've never crashed though being dangerous, to blow my own trumpet I got the name through being skilled (kinda) so its a sarcastic poke of fun at me ya gota love my mates.

darryl d

[jrandom]

I get dizzy spells and wake up to find my fingernails are looking nice.....

Hah! Guessed as much.

[babyB]

aww cheers dangerours...life is good, its what u make it

[scumdog]

So...how are them on-line personas going anyway???

[Swoop]

Epic thread dredge!:shit:

[Maha]

I have met a few off here in the real world...some real gobs on here are the quiet ones in person...Dover was the first in that catagory.

[nadroj]

I have met a few off here in the real world...some real gobs on here are the quiet ones in person...Dover was the first in that catagory.

Bring back Ben!

[Hitcher]

The saddest thing about reading this really old thread (in terms of the Kiwi Biker time scale) is the number of quality members who are with us no longer. People move on. Perhaps it should be more surprising as to who is still here, seven years later, and still posting.

[scumdog]

And Finn, the incredible cee-gar smoking midget, where is he?

Is he really 4' tall?

[DrunkenMistake]

And Finn, the incredible cee-gar smoking midget, where is he?

Is he really 4' tall?

Nice Dredge Scummy.. To be completely off topic, I may have gotten a speeding ticket yesterday, can I come down to the farm lands and give you a hug to get off it? .. like the last time? but none of that 'Special' stuff.. that was just weird :Police::shifty:

[scumdog]

Nice Dredge Scummy.. To be completely off topic, I may have gotten a speeding ticket yesterday, can I come down to the farm lands and give you a hug to get off it? .. like the last time? but none of that 'Special' stuff.. that was just weird :Police::shifty:


Pfft, gimme the details and I'll make sure you don't get off.

Don't want none of them gay-as men-hug things eh!

[DrunkenMistake]

Pfft, gimme the details and I'll make sure you don't get off.

Don't want none of them gay-as men-hug things eh!

They are ok,
Just a little weird when the other fella is in the nude.. :laugh:

[scumdog]

They are ok,
Just a little weird when the other fella is in the nude.. :laugh:

Oh-kay, got your persona sussed....<_<

[DrunkenMistake]

Oh-kay, got your persona sussed....<_<

Lmao, I should have an online Persona that is the opposite of my real life one!..


I guess that would mean no more smart ass comments and trolling.. <_<

Thats not gonna happen

[scumdog]

Lmao, I should have an online Persona that is the opposite of my real life one!..


I guess that would mean no more smart ass comments and trolling.. <_<

Thats not gonna happen

And I bet all yer report cards had "Must try harder" on them!:laugh:

[ducatilover]

I'm a wanker all the time. :)

[Mom]

Is he really 4' tall?

No that is mean and unkind. He is taller than me @ 5' and a few inches of stature :Punk:

Maha and him go to the same barber :mellow:

[DrunkenMistake]

And I bet all yer report cards had "Must try harder" on them!:laugh:

Noooo... :shifty:
"Works well in class, - English
Distracts others, must try harder - Geography
Is a lovely boy, and had excelled in all his work - Physics
Is a good Hard worker, excellent design ideas. - Engineering
Hasnt shown up to class this year. - Mathematics
Great team leader and a big hitter - Rugby coach/p.e teacher.

Hayden is a great student, but needs to focus more on his work and not on cracking wise remarks and jokes, he shows potential in all his classes but must attend Mathematics more than once a month in order to excel his school experience - Principle"

Thats my report card comments from my last year of high school a couple years back haha

[scumdog]

No that is mean and unkind. He is taller than me @ 5' and a few inches of stature :Punk:

Maha and him go to the same barber :mellow:


Finns got hair??

Yeah, he's better than his KB persona indicates.

I smoked out half of the BRONZ Vicent County Rally three years ago when I smoked those cee-gars I mentioned earlier.

Finn posted them to me, je's never met me, I've never met him, hope to do so one day.

[scumdog]

Noooo... :shifty:
"Works well in class, - English
Distracts others, must try harder - Geography
Is a lovely boy, and had excelled in all his work - Physics
Is a good Hard worker, excellent design ideas. - Engineering
Hasnt shown up to class this year. - Mathematics
Great team leader and a big hitter - Rugby coach/p.e teacher.

Hayden is a great student, but needs to focus more on his work and not on cracking wise remarks and jokes, he shows potential in all his classes but must attend Mathematics more than once a month in order to excel his school experience - Principle"

Thats my report card comments from my last year of high school a couple years back haha

Ya sound just like one of my 'mates'

"Set out this year to become the class clown and succeeeded in one short term" - so it said in his report card.

[DrunkenMistake]

Ya sound just like one of my 'mates'

"Set out this year to become the class clown and succeeeded in one short term" - so it said in his report card.

I done alright,
I passed high school and passed maths, its not like im a total idiot haha, I have my NCEA certs and what have you.
I just have a dead beat job is all.

[scumdog]

I done alright,
I passed high school and passed maths, its not like im a total idiot haha, I have my NCEA certs and what have you.
I just have a dead beat job is all.

Then "Must try harder" applies to you, young DM - don't waste your talents.:no:

Oh. amd it's "I've done alright".

[ducatilover]

Then "Must try harder" applies to you, young DM - don't waste your talents.:no:

Oh. amd it's "I've done alright".

"And" :) :facepalm:

[DrunkenMistake]

Then "Must try harder" applies to you, young DM - don't waste your talents.:no:

Im the most talented shelf stacker around,
I can spin a $120 wine bottle in the air and catch it behind my back..


:laugh: Fuck my life.

[ducatilover]

catch it behind my back..

.
Do you know how I know that you're a Honda rider?

[avgas]

I'm a wanker all the time. :)

I am a really nice guy when I am not on KB. Which is why most don't meet me off-line. Would ruin the whole "The world is full of wankers" motto than many here hold.

Cant bring myself to do it.

[DrunkenMistake]

Do you know how I know that you're a Honda rider?

You know your a honda rider when you can measure an item in inches with your eyes closed ..

[ducatilover]

I am a really nice guy when I am not on KB. Which is why most don't meet me off-line. Would ruin the whole "The world is full of wankers" motto than many here hold.

Cant bring myself to do it.

It's far easier just to be a knob.

[avgas]

Im the most talented shelf stacker around,
I can spin a $120 wine bottle in the air and catch it behind my back..


:laugh: Fuck my life.
How many times did you get it wrong?
Here is hoping they hit the floor.

[DrunkenMistake]

How many times did you get it wrong?
Here is hoping they hit the floor.

I dont think I have broken a bottle of wine yet,
Have certainly smashed alot of other things .. Managed to knock a little old lady over a year ago when I was working in the freezer, took out a flat trolley of frozen chickens, and I stopped in a hurry when she, like all customers walked out infront of me without a care, the front box was already open and a bunch of frozen birds took off across the floor and took her out..
I felt bad, but it was funny :shifty:

[avgas]

It's far easier just to be a knob.
It is.
Which is why I come here to vent all over the BMG lovers here.

Heh british cars. What a silly topic.
Its like talking about something that doesn't do its job properly. Like those silly F.R.E.D. things they put in ration packs. Whole lot of handy ideas wrapped up in a package no one can use or work.

[avgas]

I dont think I have broken a bottle of wine yet,
Have certainly smashed alot of other things .. Managed to knock a little old lady over a year ago when I was working in the freezer, took out a flat trolley of frozen chickens, and I stopped in a hurry when she, like all customers walked out infront of me without a care, the front box was already open and a bunch of frozen birds took off across the floor and took her out..
I felt bad, but it was funny :shifty:
That should be some kind of Olympic event.
Much better than that Cricket rubbish.

[scumdog]

Im the most talented shelf stacker around,
I can spin a $120 wine bottle in the air and catch it behind my back..


:laugh: Fuck my life.

Dude, you're underselling yourself.

If you were my kid I'd kick yer fuckin' arse!

I bet you can do better.:yes:

[avgas]

Not Broccolli?
Mmmmmmm Broccolli.

[DrunkenMistake]

That should be some kind of Olympic event.
Much better than that Cricket rubbish.

Used to do that too with balls of pallet wrap and pallet boards ..

[scumdog]

"And" :) :facepalm:

C'mon, it wasn't meant to be YOU that noticed that!

(Frickin know-it-all perfectionist types.....)

[DrunkenMistake]

Dude, you're underselling yourself.

If you were my kid I'd kick yer fuckin' arse!

I bet you can do better.:yes:

Oh yah, without a doubt, I have more know how than the current 2IC of the store which says something..
not that I want to be packing shelves for too much longer..
Just a matter of finding a new job really


If I was my kid..

Well I would be concerned as to how that is even possible

[ducatilover]

It is.
Which is why I come here to vent all over the BMG lovers here.

Heh british cars. What a silly topic.
Its like talking about something that doesn't do its job properly. Like those silly F.R.E.D. things they put in ration packs. Whole lot of handy ideas wrapped up in a package no one can use or work. British cars work great.


.....No, I led.


C'mon, it wasn't meant to be YOU that noticed that!

(Frickin know-it-all perfectionist types.....) Fuck I am awesome.

[DrunkenMistake]

British cars work great.


.....No, I led.

Fuck I am awesome.


This forum needs a ChanceBmx translator,

"U al nd 2 fk offf n sihtt"

[ducatilover]

This forum needs a ChanceBmx translator,

:lol: Epic. He should be in this thread

[scumdog]

If I was my kid..

Well I would be concerned as to how that is even possible

Ya just dunno where I've been....:shifty:

[DrunkenMistake]

Ya just dunno where I've been....:shifty:

I think I know..

245352

[scumdog]

I think I know..

245352


Nah, yer mother had tits hen I met her....<_<

[DrunkenMistake]

Nah, yer mother had tits hen I met her....<_<

Touche..

I do believe I am at a loss for a come back

[ducatilover]

Nah, yer mother had tits hen I met her....<_<

http://ws.elance.com/file/Chiken-3.jpg?crypted=Y3R4JTNEcG9ydGZvbGlvJTI2ZmlkJTNEMjMz MjM0ODglMjZyaWQlM0QtMSUyNnBpZCUzRDEzOTc2MzQ=

[scumdog]

Touche..

I do believe I am at a loss for a come back



And ya better remember that pilgrim...

(Don't forget, I'm worse than my on-line persona would have you believe..)

[flyingcrocodile46]

I have a very low tolerance threshold for idiots, dishonesty, unreliability and I am an opinionated, confrontational, curt, and some would say uncompromising know it all, both on line and in the flesh.

I am one of those objectionable people who at times digs his toes in over declining standards (and such trivia) and regularly make embarrassing (for all) scenes until I am satisfied that my point (being an arsehole) has been well and truly understood by the offending party.

So if you don't like my size 40 shoulder pads and megaphone mouthpiece e-persona and are more comfortable imagining that I might be a mewling little push over in the flesh. I really couldn't give a flying fuck as it makes absolutely no difference to me.
I am who I am, do as I want when it suits me and seldom have cause to apologise for it.

You may now proceed to take turns nose plowing my stink ditch.

Fuck you very much

[jazfender]

Obviously your declining standards rants don't include signature jokes.

[babyB]

nice to see some things dont change with time lol

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I have a very low tolerance threshold for idiots, dishonesty, unreliability and I am an opinionated, confrontational, curt, and some would say uncompromising know it all, both on line and in the flesh.

I am one of those objectionable people who at times digs his toes in over declining standards (and such trivia) and regularly make embarrassing (for all) scenes until I am satisfied that my point (being an arsehole) has been well and truly understood by the offending party.

So if you don't like my size 40 shoulder pads and megaphone mouthpiece e-persona and are more comfortable imagining that I might be a mewling little push over in the flesh. I really couldn't give a flying fuck as it makes absolutely no difference to me.
I am who I am, do as I want when it suits me and seldom have cause to apologise for it.

You may now proceed to take turns nose plowing my stink ditch.

Fuck you very much


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[flyingcrocodile46]

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Yes. Very clever. A good old No Yuo to add some depth :rolleyes:

BTW Nice plow:niceone:

[Clockwork]

Thisthread has cut right through the bullshit!

OK, I admit it. I'm much nicer in real life.